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Look at this board a week ago now look at it!

Could it be the same Club??

Personally, I've always quite liked the idea of a forum 'HAPPYOMETER'! We could stick it at the top of the main menu so that people can see what sort of 'condition' the forum is in.

Green = All is well. We won today/last night. We are going up!

Orange = Things could be better. We drew at home against a side we should have beat. We're going to ruin our promotion chances if we carry on like this

Red = Pass me the sharpest knife you can find! We lost, the tactics were shocking. I don't know why I bother being a City fan!

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Personally, I've always quite liked the idea of a forum 'HAPPYOMETER'! We could stick it at the top of the main menu so that people can see what sort of 'condition' the forum is in.

Green = All is well. We won today/last night. We are going up!

Orange = Things could be better. We drew at home against a side we should have beat. We're going to ruin our promotion chances if we carry on like this

Red = Pass me the sharpest knife you can find! We lost, the tactics were shocking. I don't know why I bother being a City fan!

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Like it! Good idea. I probably wouldn't look very far if the happymeter was on red.

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After losing to Rovers I can see why some were fed up, who can blame them after 180 minutes of lackluster football.

League form however, has always been the most important aspect of our season, so perhaps it puts the Rovers defeat into context.

I can't remember the club letting us in on the cheap against rover because it did not matter of course the league is the most important always was, but to say that the rovers game did not matter is rubbish.

I said in a earlier post if it did not matter then we should have got out in the first round then Scott Murry would still be fit, all so by us losing to the gas has cost the club thousands of pounds.

It can be said that the forum is different this week from last because the team performed well in the last two games which they did,Which they did not against the gas the team is just as fickle as the Fans.

If All this crap about not mattering about losing to gas is to make us fell better well in my case it does not,It was still a crap result and the pride of Bristol was at stake.So don't tell me it does not matter

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yep, spot on, many people on here were sucidal after the Rovers game and felt Johnson had to go as we had no chance this season of gaining automatic promotion.

others myself included saw the Rovers defeat for what it was, a blessing in disguise.

just looking at Rovers results since, they now have no chance of promotion as they have been thinking too much about the Cardiff Final, losing against Rovers in time could well be looked at as our best result of the season (ok maybe) but you get my drift

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I don't think people are being fickle, just talking about what they see and if this Forum was full of eternal optimists, it wouldn't see the debates it has and wouldn't enjoy half the hits.

There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism, however many don't realise the difference between that and slagging.People with a contrary opinion aren't necessarily wrong!

I, for example, consider myself a realist and if anyone can tell me the positives about the team set up and the performances over two legs against a lower mid table 4th Div team that drew with Shrewsbury on the basis of a last minute penalty save and with Accrington Stanley the following week, then I'm all ears :disapointed2se:

I was very critical of both the perfomances and tactics against the Gas, whilst highly complimentary about the same in our wins away at BHA, Old, Blackpool and now Chesterfield.I make no apologies for either stance. Three different formations were used to win those games so I'm not just complimenting tactics I would have used or generally agree with.

I remember a pundit saying "I can't deny the evidence of my own eyes and people wouldn't want me to or believe me, if I did" that's about right by me.

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yep, spot on, many people on here were sucidal after the Rovers game and felt Johnson had to go as we had no chance this season of gaining automatic promotion.

I didn't see one post saying GJ should go

others myself included saw the Rovers defeat for what it was, a blessing in disguise.

I've heard that view and, whilst I understand where you and others are coming from, I don't feel there were any blessings or benefit from playing badly and being set up incorrectly, twice.Neither do I consider that a JPT win would have hindered our progress in te League.If that was the case, why hadn't it up to that point or before or after those games?

just looking at Rovers results since, they now have no chance of promotion

They had no chance before.They, based on their League position and those two games are abysmall in my view.

as they have been thinking too much about the Cardiff Final,

Must have been thinking about it since August then

losing against Rovers in time could well be looked at as our best result of the season (ok maybe) but you get my drift

I think we got more out of a defeat at Boro and away wins at Old,BHA,Black & Chest

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I like the idea, but Jay you can't have the colours you suggest. I guess you are working with the tried and tested traffic light system but I think these would be better:

RED - Our colour, surely got to be a positive!

GREY - Bit of a grey area, could go either way!

BLUE - Surely the most depressing, negative, colour in the world!!!!

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And as for fickleness, isn't that the whole beautiful/frustrating thing about football!!!! :comando:

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why is the happyometer on Red in that picture then Jay. that pointer is pointing at very rock bottom of the red.

That was probabley what the Happyometer looked like on the 4th December 2005 when city were rock bottom of league one. :disapointed2se:

christ was that really only 15 months ago :noexpression:

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I like the idea, but Jay you can't have the colours you suggest. I guess you are working with the tried and tested traffic light system but I think these would be better:

RED - Our colour, surely got to be a positive!

GREY - Bit of a grey area, could go either way!

BLUE - Surely the most depressing, negative, colour in the world!!!!

:goingup:

And as for fickleness, isn't that the whole beautiful/frustrating thing about football!!!! :comando:

Hmm....we could alway use a similar approach to the Yanks. They have DefCon's (Defensive Conditions - 1-5 I think).

We could have DEPCon 1-5 (DEPRESSING Condition)! ;)

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yep, spot on, many people on here were sucidal after the Rovers game and felt Johnson had to go as we had no chance this season of gaining automatic promotion.

others myself included saw the Rovers defeat for what it was, a blessing in disguise.

just looking at Rovers results since, they now have no chance of promotion as they have been thinking too much about the Cardiff Final, losing against Rovers in time could well be looked at as our best result of the season (ok maybe) but you get my drift

Totally agree with that post.

I tend to think some fans here hit the ''panic'' button far too quickly. I also remember one post stating that it was the end for GJ after the gas result!!!! I mean what a load of rubbish......

As for the Sag result, come on, we all know who the best team in Bristol is don't we???

Hopefully we're going to be a Championship club next season, and l can't wait to stick that back in the SAGS face when they mention the derby....

In footballing terms it will be like Stockport saying they are better than Man Utd... Thats all the bragging rights l want, sod the JPT Tin Pot dog chew Cup.

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Look at this board a week ago now look at it!

Could it be the same Club??

Why fickle?

Thats football- Your only as good as your last match, the away performance against Rovers was poor so people were right to have a pop and ask questions.

Last nights result with the Brighton and Blackpool ones have meant we now have a fantastic oppitunity but it will mean jack if we don't collect 6 points againt Brentford & Bradford and finish the job. If we don't take 3 points on Saturday people will be asking questions and rightly so.

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Fickle? nope.. your only as good as your last result if it's good you say so when it's bad

you say so, getting beat by the gas was bad, thing is city have been up and down like a weston

donkey this season and not been a consistant top 2 team, now we are there we need to stay there.

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can't remember who it was now, nobody I remember seeing post before though they had been a member for a while.

I see, so when you said "many" you were exaggerating just as much as this unknown suicidal person who posted that we had no chance of promotion and GJ should be fired. Fair enough.

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Personally, I've always quite liked the idea of a forum 'HAPPYOMETER'! We could stick it at the top of the main menu so that people can see what sort of 'condition' the forum is in.

Green = All is well. We won today/last night. We are going up!

Orange = Things could be better. We drew at home against a side we should have beat. We're going to ruin our promotion chances if we carry on like this

Red = Pass me the sharpest knife you can find! We lost, the tactics were shocking. I don't know why I bother being a City fan!

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What a wonderful idea! The meter could rest at the top of the logo banner. Perhaps it could even detect the tone of the most recent postings, but parsing for particular words / phrases? Alternatively, a simple poll on the homepage ('How Happy Are You With This Club?').

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I wouldnt say that the forum was particularly fickle. I think you'll find alot of people were here saying that it was a pitiful performance over the 2 legs ( which it was ) but they were looking forward to us concentrating on the league.

I don't actually recall anyone moaning about our league form / performances......people were just a little shocked at 2 awful local derbys.

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yep, spot on, many people on here were sucidal after the Rovers game and felt Johnson had to go as we had no chance this season of gaining automatic promotion.

others myself included saw the Rovers defeat for what it was, a blessing in disguise.

just looking at Rovers results since, they now have no chance of promotion as they have been thinking too much about the Cardiff Final, losing against Rovers in time could well be looked at as our best result of the season (ok maybe) but you get my drift

True, and when people tried to mention that the defeat worked a treat for us they would get smerky comments back saying that we had wished we would have won and are really gutted but in all fairness i couldn't be happier now!

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I see, so when you said "many" you were exaggerating just as much as this unknown suicidal person who posted that we had no chance of promotion and GJ should be fired. Fair enough.

someone brought it up, believe it was this degzemid(?) and there was a few people who were agreeing with him,

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I see, so when you said "many" you were exaggerating just as much as this unknown suicidal person who posted that we had no chance of promotion and GJ should be fired. Fair enough.

there were a number of people dispensing with various abuse after the rovers game, stating that since we had no chance of promotion with the current team that johnson was doing a rubbish job, however it was the normal few that are totally against Johnson regardless of what he does, the normal people who haven't been seen since before the Northampton game and now won't be seen again until we lose our next game.

some people from whatever they reasons, just want Johnson gone and even if he does get us promoted it will be a case of well........we would have had gone up quicker and with more points if Phillips or Stewart were still here.

degizmed is just one of few

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True, and when people tried to mention that the defeat worked a treat for us they would get smerky comments back saying that we had wished we would have won and are really gutted but in all fairness i couldn't be happier now!

To be honest I can't see how the two things are related.

Losing to Rovers, IMHO, has nothing to do with our League Results and neither would beating them, although, that's something that can't be proved either way.

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there were a number of people dispensing with various abuse after the rovers game, stating that since we had no chance of promotion with the current team that johnson was doing a rubbish job, however it was the normal few that are totally against Johnson regardless of what he does, the normal people who haven't been seen since before the Northampton game and now won't be seen again until we lose our next game.

some people from whatever they reasons, just want Johnson gone and even if he does get us promoted it will be a case of well........we would have had gone up quicker and with more points if Phillips or Stewart were still here.

degizmed is just one of few

No, there weren't a number of people abusing others and saying there was no chance of promotion and that Johnson was doing a rubbish job. Not at all. Feel free to link a couple of threads and prove me wrong but you won't because they don't exist. There were a few people criticising after a poor performance, there was disappointment and rightly so.

Why is it that a select few like yourself and bh_red must get on their high horses and exaggerate whatever criticism there is on here in an "I told you so" manner after we do well?

Don't you realise that you're doing EXACTLY what you seem to despise just with the opposite polarized point of view?

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No, there weren't a number of people abusing others and saying there was no chance of promotion and that Johnson was doing a rubbish job. Not at all. Feel free to link a couple of threads and prove me wrong but you won't because they don't exist. There were a few people criticising after a poor performance, there was disappointment and rightly so.

Why is it that a select few like yourself and bh_red must get on their high horses and exaggerate whatever criticism there is on here in an "I told you so" manner after we do well?

Don't you realise that you're doing EXACTLY what you seem to despise just with the opposite polarized point of view?

had a quick scan, but not willing to go through tons of old postings, but know it's out there somewhere.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=76060

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=75940

here is some links for you that I could find quickly, however knowing your previous your never ever wrong, so I don't know why I am bothering.

this forum really should be renamed the "Bristol Boy/Nibor Fans Forum" - as everything that either of you say should be classed as FACT and is not up for debate as us mere mortals shouldn't dare challenge their views.

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had a quick scan, but not willing to go through tons of old postings, but know it's out there somewhere.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=76060

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=75940

here is some links for you that I could find quickly, however knowing your previous your never ever wrong, so I don't know why I am bothering.

this forum really should be renamed the "Bristol Boy/Nibor Fans Forum" - as everything that either of you say should be classed as FACT and is not up for debate as us mere mortals shouldn't dare challenge their views.

I don't see my name on any of those replies...

Dear oh dear.

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had a quick scan, but not willing to go through tons of old postings, but know it's out there somewhere.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=76060

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=75940

here is some links for you that I could find quickly, however knowing your previous your never ever wrong, so I don't know why I am bothering.

There's nothing in those links saying that GJ is doing a rubbish job or dispensing abuse - other than the abuse directed at someone whose dares to post something critical.

When I'm wrong I admit it. When I disagree with someone subjectively I will argue the point and try to make the reasons why I do clear. There are plenty of examples of me doing both this forum. Have you ever done either?

this forum really should be renamed the "Bristol Boy/Nibor Fans Forum" - as everything that either of you say should be classed as FACT and is not up for debate as us mere mortals shouldn't dare challenge their views.

I can't believe the massive hypocrisy you're employing here.

You and your mate are criticising posters for posting their views, exaggerating what they posted and making things up to give you some sort of "told you so" buzz... and when I point out that nothing like that was actually posted all of a sudden I don't want anyone challenging my views!

Get real for crying out loud.

I'm quite happy for anyone to challenge my views providing they can actually string a coherent argument together, those are the interesting posts on here. The ones that I don't find interesting are the exaggerated, inaccurate, happy clappy vs moaner wars that you seem to like to start, which is why I called you on the make believe you posted in this thread. Sorry if that upsets you.

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there were a number of people dispensing with various abuse after the rovers game, stating that since we had no chance of promotion with the current team that johnson was doing a rubbish job, however it was the normal few that are totally against Johnson regardless of what he does, the normal people who haven't been seen since before the Northampton game and now won't be seen again until we lose our next game.

some people from whatever they reasons, just want Johnson gone and even if he does get us promoted it will be a case of well........we would have had gone up quicker and with more points if Phillips or Stewart were still here.

degizmed is just one of few

As you are a complete idiot, or are really old and senile, here what I actually said in reality:

Agree completely.

Whilst promotion is good blah blah blah, this is a derby...our first in 5 years.

Read today that their victory was their first against us at the Minimal Ground.

I really cant believe how GJ has taken this so lightly, the players should have bust a gut to win that game for us, if not themselves.

Like you say we will hear about this for years, or at least until we get our revenge.

Come on!

If we're serious about competing in the Championship we should be able to dispose of Rovers home and away no problem, and enjoy it as a bonus to go with promotion!

You're making it sound like an 'either or' situation, fact is, beating Rovers should have been done over 2 legs, not necessarily comfortably...but done.

I don't want to lose to them, whether we're 1st or 24th.

If we're a championship side in May, hell yes i'll be dissapointed in losing 1-0 over 2 legs against the Gas.

What is the point in all this constant goading and taking the mick out of them if we cant even beat them?

If we stay down i'll be less bothered because it'll just be an average League 1 team losing to a cruddy League 2 team.

You do realise they're 14th in League 2? Losing at home week in week out to teams like Darlington?

Saying they raised their game is no excuse, we should have raised ours and matched their effort.

Yeh I agree we are the better team, but I don't see how we can big ourselves up with the old 'One team in Bristol' for a while because when push came to shove we went out with a whimper.

Sorry I don't SEE WHERE I SAY WE WONT GET PROMOTION OR THAT JOHNSON SHOULD BE SACKED.

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Its funny how Badger22, bh_red and Old Man Terry are quick to appear and point the accusing finger when it suits them..

Please Sir, it was him ,it was him, honest

Yet now dissapear as i've cleared my name.

Like a bunch of school children. I really don't know who is worse...

People like me who say what they see, with an opinion..

Or people like them who are always right, blend in with the crowd and get some queer satisfaction of being right over someone else.

Good old City fans eh.

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Personally, I've always quite liked the idea of a forum 'HAPPYOMETER'! We could stick it at the top of the main menu so that people can see what sort of 'condition' the forum is in.

Green = All is well. We won today/last night. We are going up!

Orange = Things could be better. We drew at home against a side we should have beat. We're going to ruin our promotion chances if we carry on like this

Red = Pass me the sharpest knife you can find! We lost, the tactics were shocking. I don't know why I bother being a City fan!

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Having studied the forum at great length and considered your idea of traffic lights, may I suggest an amendment by way of compromise?

Green = We won today/last night but the tactics were shocking. I don't know why I bother being a City fan!

Orange = Things could be better. We drew at home against a side we should have beat. The tactics were shocking. I don't know why I bother being a City fan!

Red = Pass me the sharpest knife you can find! We lost, the tactics were shocking. I don't know why I bother being a City fan!

This would incorporate your traffic light scheme without requiring any radical changes on the forum. Thoughts?

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there were a number of people dispensing with various abuse after the rovers game, stating that since we had no chance of promotion with the current team that johnson was doing a rubbish job, however it was the normal few that are totally against Johnson regardless of what he does, the normal people who haven't been seen since before the Northampton game and now won't be seen again until we lose our next game.

some people from whatever they reasons, just want Johnson gone and even if he does get us promoted it will be a case of well........we would have had gone up quicker and with more points if Phillips or Stewart were still here.

degizmed is just one of few

Since Stewart left permantely, i can assure you NONE of his allies have commented on his well being at all, albeit a few may have commented in the "social city" when hes scored or played well.

While he was still part of the Bristol City set up, fans are allowed to pass on their feelings and remarks.........Or wern,t they?

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Its funny how Badger22, bh_red and Old Man Terry are quick to appear and point the accusing finger when it suits them..

Please Sir, it was him ,it was him, honest

Yet now dissapear as i've cleared my name.

Like a bunch of school children. I really don't know who is worse...

People like me who say what they see, with an opinion..

Or people like them who are always right, blend in with the crowd and get some queer satisfaction of being right over someone else.

Good old City fans eh.

Ha ha ha ha, thats so funny... hook line and sinker.

I love watching you throw your toys out... so easy to make you bite.

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Who really ###### cares who said what to whom and who can back up there arguments dragging out old posts or not

It is all complete b***ocks....

To those who like to argue for the sake of being right....grow up

To those who post unsupported threads... so what

To those who come on here because they love there team and like to discuss it with others....Keep posting...If your right or wrong is completely subjective and I for one like to know what people are thinking about the club...Not about each other...

SORRY RANT OVER

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this forum really should be renamed the "Bristol Boy/Nibor Fans Forum" - as everything that either of you say should be classed as FACT and is not up for debate as us mere mortals shouldn't dare challenge their views.

Seeing as you've decided to drag my name up, God knows why, I'll stand by what I've said about the Rovers games and debate that with anyone.The trouble with people that post unsubstantiated stuff is that they're then required to do the impossible and substantiate it, justify it, if you will, which of course, they can't.

It's great to tell it like it is because you can praise when that's due and criticise when it's not.That's a far easier standpoint than being a GJ/SL lover or hater who then feels obliged to praise/condemn or, more often, defend them, whatever they do and it's the same with opinion about certain players.

At the end of the day we all start & reply to topics and if people don't want to read them or reply to them they'll soon dissapear.

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Ha ha ha ha, thats so funny... hook line and sinker.

I love watching you throw your toys out... so easy to make you bite.

Yeh right I bet you were gagging to be right about something for once and ive shown you up.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

It wasnt me who had a tantrum calling you a ********

Glad you got your kick anyway.

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Yeh right I bet you were gagging to be right about something for once and ive shown you up.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

It wasnt me who had a tantrum calling you a ********

Glad you got your kick anyway.

I did, thank you.

on ignore.

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Its funny how Badger22, bh_red and Old Man Terry are quick to appear and point the accusing finger when it suits them..

Please Sir, it was him ,it was him, honest

Yet now dissapear as i've cleared my name.

Like a bunch of school children. I really don't know who is worse...

People like me who say what they see, with an opinion..

Or people like them who are always right, blend in with the crowd and get some queer satisfaction of being right over someone else.

Good old City fans eh.

sorry for having a life and not being logged on 24/7 to await your reply! not sure where I have directly mentioned your know, I have just refered to you as one of many

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There's nothing in those links saying that GJ is doing a rubbish job or dispensing abuse - other than the abuse directed at someone whose dares to post something critical.

When I'm wrong I admit it. When I disagree with someone subjectively I will argue the point and try to make the reasons why I do clear. There are plenty of examples of me doing both this forum. Have you ever done either?

I can't believe the massive hypocrisy you're employing here.

You and your mate are criticising posters for posting their views, exaggerating what they posted and making things up to give you some sort of "told you so" buzz... and when I point out that nothing like that was actually posted all of a sudden I don't want anyone challenging my views!

Get real for crying out loud.

I'm quite happy for anyone to challenge my views providing they can actually string a coherent argument together, those are the interesting posts on here. The ones that I don't find interesting are the exaggerated, inaccurate, happy clappy vs moaner wars that you seem to like to start, which is why I called you on the make believe you posted in this thread. Sorry if that upsets you.

as I said previously this is just a couple of the threads of many, can't be bothered to search through completley and dig them out, this place isn't my life, it's a forum (one that some people take FAR too seriously!)

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spot on, however some refuse to admit that they could possibly be wrong........it's all about the ego

I think the point was being made about people like you, arguing for the sake of it because you were right and 'others were wrong'...even if its all in your mind.

again, unsure where I am directly refering to you on this case

You said posters wanted GJ the sack and that we couldnt get promotion, and that I was one of the few.

I am not, I was not and have shown so. So a simple ''ok I was wrong'' would be nice. But no, just worm your way out of it.

sorry for having a life and not being logged on 24/7 to await your reply!

Ah thats funny because you were viewing this thread for a good 20 minutes after I said my final piece. Unless of course that was an imposter, or you just accidently left it logged onto that topic.

Thinking of something to get yourself out of a hole if you ask me.

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I think the point was being made about people like you, arguing for the sake of it because you were right and 'others were wrong'...even if its all in your mind.

You said posters wanted GJ the sack and that we couldnt get promotion, and that I was one of the few.

I am not, I was not and have shown so. So a simple ''ok I was wrong'' would be nice. But no, just worm your way out of it.

Ah thats funny because you were viewing this thread for a good 20 minutes after I said my final piece. Unless of course that was an imposter, or you just accidently left it logged onto that topic.

Thinking of something to get yourself out of a hole if you ask me.

You will wait years for that mate, he is never wrong in his opinion, which half the time is non constructive.

Straight away he has a pop at Nibor and Bristolboy for so say hogging the forum,at least the pair of them make constructive and controversial reading, you Terry just seem to want to disagree all the time.

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Ah thats funny because you were viewing this thread for a good 20 minutes after I said my final piece. Unless of course that was an imposter, or you just accidently left it logged onto that topic.

that would be the website, when you just close the page without actually logging off it still shows you as reading the page, if you actually hover over the name it will see when they last updated the page, not that I need to justify myself.

If you ever had anything decent to say I might have something worthwhile to agree/disagree with.

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You will wait years for that mate, he is never wrong in his opinion, which half the time is non constructive.

Straight away he has a pop at Nibor and Bristolboy for so say hogging the forum,at least the pair of them make constructive and controversial reading, you Terry just seem to want to disagree all the time.

No, I disagree

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Personally, I've always quite liked the idea of a forum 'HAPPYOMETER'! We could stick it at the top of the main menu so that people can see what sort of 'condition' the forum is in.

Green = All is well. We won today/last night. We are going up!

Orange = Things could be better. We drew at home against a side we should have beat. We're going to ruin our promotion chances if we carry on like this

Red = Pass me the sharpest knife you can find! We lost, the tactics were shocking. I don't know why I bother being a City fan!

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You could do it in a 'Dad's Army' stylee - from "Don't panic, Mr Johnson" to "We're Doooomed!"

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I just reckon, ignoring all the nonsense accusations and bickering etc, one way or another losing to the (how can I describe them>) - #####'s was unnacceptable and quite rightly I, along with many others were irate, however, playing at times shithot Football and taking 12 from 12 in the league conversely has taken my total plaudits.

Nothing fickle about that imo.

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Look at this board a week ago now look at it!

Could it be the same Club??

And another week goes by & were back to where we were 2 weeks ago!

Hope that makes sense!

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