chowie Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Paul Ince is weighing up a move for Bristol City right-back Bradley Orr. The Liverpool-born defender, 25, fractured his cheekbone in the Play Off Final defeat to Hull but could yet get his dream move to the Premier League if City accept around £350,000. Orr has previously had spells at Newcastle and Burnley. http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/footba...r.html?ITO=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfcmatt Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 lets hope this is just a rumor, do u really think gj will let him go, i hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 If Brad starts this season in the same form as last, then we might struggle to keep him. And people doubted his ability to step up!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 £350,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redminster Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 £350,000 Yeah. They can get stuffed. £1m then we're talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsKev Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 £350k, they are glue sniffers in Blackburn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 £350,000 My thoughts exactly, why the hell will we let him go for that? MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockin-robin Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Forget the price. Do you think Bradley Orr would want to go? A good opportunity to play in the prem and higher wages I would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 £350,000 Thats wrong. They missed the three noughts off the end and if the deal goes through we will then offer £550K up front to the Egyptians. On a serious note I would say £½ million to £650K is a realistic valuation of Orr (who will no doubt be coached how to cross and pass a ball consistently well at other clubs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATTBCFC Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Yeah. They can get stuffed. £1m then we're talking. What when Ribiero is attracting bids of £750,000...??? Not a hope in hell. £1.5-£2mill minimum. He's only 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 What when Ribiero is attracting bids of £750,000...??? Not a hope in hell. £1.5-£2mill minimum. He's only 25. Sorry mate but nobody pays millions of pounds for Right Backs (unless we're talking about that guy who played for Seville). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Forget the price. Do you think Bradley Orr would want to go? Of course he would! Closer to home for him too. He's young enough to give us another season, if he improves next season as much as he did last then we will struggle to keep him. Although, he might just feel he owes GJ a lot after THAT incident. Be gutted if he left - he looks like a real leader to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redbarn Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Paul Ince is weighing up a move for Bristol City right-back Bradley Orr. The Liverpool-born defender, 25, fractured his cheekbone in the Play Off Final defeat to Hull but could yet get his dream move to the Premier League if City accept around £350,000. Orr has previously had spells at Newcastle and Burnley. http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/footba...r.html?ITO=1490 We all like Bradders, £350k would be almost like giving him away, I hope he stays, though if the board are listening to offers, £750k+ would be a more realistic figure. On the other hand, could this be the long awaited entrance for young Ribeiro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 i do not doubt orr would get some attention following is pfa vote, but what idiot prints a story quoting £350k. No one accepts that for a player going to the Prem. £3.5M maybe.... Complete tosh. Hang on, are you saying that if someone was prepared to break our record transfer received for a wholehearted, gusty right back, with limited crossing and passing technique, you would have to think about it?? Seriously, there's loving City players, then there's being ridiculous. Realistically, i'd say around £750k (more than we paid for the likes of McIndoe, Carle and when Murray returned) would be an excellent offer. That would buy you pretty much any championship right back IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest b2x1y Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Yeah. They can get stuffed. £1m then we're talking. £1million - this is a EPL club - money is no object for them. £5-10million - £5million at min for EPL clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 £1million - this is a EPL club - money is no object for them. £5-10million - £5million at min for EPL clubs. EPL?? Thought that was soccer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 £350,000? 'Undisclosed fee' a more likely transfer I'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hang on, are you saying that if someone was prepared to break our record transfer received for a wholehearted, gusty right back, with limited crossing and passing technique, you would have to think about it?? Seriously, there's loving City players, then there's being ridiculous. Realistically, i'd say around £750k (more than we paid for the likes of McIndoe, Carle and when Murray returned) would be an excellent offer. That would buy you pretty much any championship right back IMO. I agree. You can only get so far on passion and workrate. In the prem you need ability. 350k is hilarious but around 1m and I'd have no problems accepting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparko Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hang on, are you saying that if someone was prepared to break our record transfer received for a wholehearted, gusty right back, with limited crossing and passing technique, And yet managed to get into the PFA team of the year. Hmm... Maybe Bradley is a better player than you give him credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_b Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 £1million - this is a EPL club - money is no object for them. £5-10million - £5million at min for EPL clubs. Huh? Even the likes of Arsenal are rumoured to only have a budget of about £30m tops to spend this summer. Just because someone is going to the Premier League doesn't mean it'll be £5m min. West Brom have just signed a Dutch U21 international for £3.2m whilst Chelsea spent (speculated) £3.7m on Belletti - yes he's older but he has a proven experience and standing. Incidentally if it is Blackburn and there is a real link it'll be worthwhile to keep this http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/ju...eague.blackburn in mind if they come in for him. They only spent £4m last summer total. If someone like Santa-Cruz can come in for £3.8m then you're having a laugh if you reckon someone like Orr will go for £5m. I'd hope that we'd have a rough idea of players we've identified as possible replacements for all positions across the squad since (as Carle showed) you never know when someone'll come in with a good offer. If Orr was to go then I guess the fee'll reflect our financial situation/any possible replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bristol City Online Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 I can not see GJ letting Orr go for that price, yes hes a right back but at least £1m. Noway worth £350,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Zeppelin Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Sorry mate but nobody pays millions of pounds for Right Backs (unless we're talking about that guy who played for Seville). I have worked out that the average price paid for a first-choice right-back in the Premier League (Non-trainees, actually bought) is roughly £3.7 million. Now considering that Orr is voted the best right-back in the tier below the Premier League, it puts £350k in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I have worked out that the average price paid for a first-choice right-back in the Premier League (Non-trainees, actually bought) is roughly £3.7 million. Now considering that Orr is voted the best right-back in the tier below the Premier League, it puts £350k in perspective. I think you should take the top four clubs out of the calculation, and see what the average price is then. Anyway, this is a load of nonsense really, a rumour which is unlikely to be true and a contracted player we have no intention of selling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton boy Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 How much did Greg Halford go to Sunderland for? That has got to be the benchmark for CCC players going to Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DanC Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 If we were to sell Orr it would have to be a offer that is simply to good to turn down., 350k is about at least half of what we should be looking to get for him. We would need to be able to buy a better player than Orr for the money we receive from any sale and also make a slight profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastcityfan Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/footba...r.html?ITO=1490 Mail on Sunday reporting that Ince is wanting to sign Bradley for 350K....having a laugh aren't they??? Sorry guys, just seen Chowies post on the same subject! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Orr may well be worth under a million, but we could ask for however much we want, so any price quoted wont be to high - if we don't wanna sell him - we are within our rights to ask for 10 million if we wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=102269 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest westy Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Maybe Ince has forgotten what league he is managing in ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednready Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 GJ has shown he will sell as well as buy. Of course the price would have to be realistic. For me 500k minimum, for a right back who is solid but not spectacular. IMO Ribiero could turn out to be the better option if given his chance. Then we have Wilson as back up and he prefers right back. Given we have Ribiero and Wilson and need some cash for quality strikers, I would sell. The question being, would Orr want the move, definately a step up for him, more money and a chance at the top level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bristol City Online Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 GJ has shown he will sell as well as buy. Of course the price would have to be realistic. For me 500k minimum, for a right back who is solid but not spectacular. IMO Ribiero could turn out to be the better option if given his chance. Then we have Wilson as back up and he prefers right back. Given we have Ribiero and Wilson and need some cash for quality strikers, I would sell. The question being, would Orr want the move, definately a step up for him, more money and a chance at the top level. I doubt GJ would let Orr go and I think Orr would want to stay he loves the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I doubt GJ would let Orr go and I think Orr would want to stay he loves the club. Some people are just deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Given we have Ribiero and Wilson and need some cash for quality strikers, I would sell. This seems to be an assumption. Is there any evidence that Steve will not stump up the money if Gary wants it? We didn't have to sell Nick Carle but Gary saw it as too big to turn down and felt he had better options. The fact he has three (or four depending on which interview you read/listen to) bids in, two being for strikers, doesn't suggest he is cash strapped. As to selling, my guess is that other players will leave (obvious ones would be the likes of Betsy and Keogh) but not any Gary sees as key, unless they agitate for a transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 GJ has shown he will sell as well as buy. Of course the price would have to be realistic. For me 500k minimum, for a right back who is solid but not spectacular. IMO Ribiero could turn out to be the better option if given his chance. Then we have Wilson as back up and he prefers right back. Given we have Ribiero and Wilson and need some cash for quality strikers, I would sell. The question being, would Orr want the move, definately a step up for him, more money and a chance at the top level. I agree with that but I just doubt there's any truth behind this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Zeppelin Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (The previous figure for an average Premier League right-back should have been £4.1 million but I had used Carragher instead of Finnan). I think you should take the top four clubs out of the calculation, and see what the average price is then. Fair enough. Minus Belleti, Finnan and Sagna (Brown:trainee)..... .......the average price for a right-back is still £4.0 million. Either way it is still a load more than £350,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednready Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 This seems to be an assumption. Is there any evidence that Steve will not stump up the money if Gary wants it? We didn't have to sell Nick Carle but Gary saw it as too big to turn down and felt he had better options. The fact he has three (or four depending on which interview you read/listen to) bids in, two being for strikers, doesn't suggest he is cash strapped. SL said he wants the football club to be self sufficient and it has run at a loss for years. If he supplies any extra cash for a must have player its not free money. Its in the form of a loan for which he will recieve interest and rightly so. Its just business. GJ to his credit is trying to be cost effective and keep the clubs debt at a managable level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (The previous figure for an average Premier League right-back should have been £4.0 million but I had used Carragher instead of Finnan). Fair enough. Minus Belleti, Finnan and Sagna (Brown:trainee)..... .......the average price for a right-back is still £3.8 million. Either way it is still a load more than £350,000. Fair enough, you've done some research there! I apologise for doubting you! I assumed you would have used Essien / Ferraria in the chelsea calculation which would have upped the average. Out of interest...i can think of Hutton & Carr for right backs who would have moved for serious cash, what other big money right backs there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 SL said he wants the football club to be self sufficient and it has run at a loss for years. If he supplies any extra cash for a must have player its not free money. Its in the form of a loan for which he will recieve interest and rightly so. Its just business. GJ to his credit is trying to be cost effective and keep the clubs debt at a managable level Absolutely, though I don't imagine Steve expects that to happen overnight. I don't think that precludes borrowing, whether from Steve or elsewhere, but he will expect the club to be able to service its debts. Because Gary will not pay over the odds he will be backed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Zeppelin Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Fair enough, you've done some research there! I apologise for doubting you! I assumed you would have used Essien / Ferraria in the chelsea calculation which would have upped the average. Out of interest...i can think of Hutton & Carr for right backs who would have moved for serious cash, what other big money right backs there? Carr signed for just £2 million. I used Habib Beye anyway who was the same price. Yeah, Essien would have massively distorted the figure at his price! Hutton and Corluka were the most expensive first-choice right-backs in the Premier League at £8 million and £9 million respectively... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednready Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Absolutely, though I don't imagine Steve expects that to happen overnight. I don't think that precludes borrowing, whether from Steve or elsewhere, but he will expect the club to be able to service its debts. Because Gary will not pay over the odds he will be backed. A common goal, confirmed by SL and GJ over the past 2 seasons. Reading back, I intend to agree with Nibor. There are more believable stories out there. This smells of silly season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megansdad Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 west brom have just bought a right back for 3.2m - bradley is worth a lot more to us than 350k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Today's Grauniad (Friday) has Orr off as well, Blackburn again, sounds like a done deal, but £350k? No, add £500k to that and we have a deal, Mr Incey-Wincey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Faith Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I have worked out that the average price paid for a first-choice right-back in the Premier League (Non-trainees, actually bought) is roughly £3.7 million. Now considering that Orr is voted the best right-back in the tier below the Premier League, it puts £350k in perspective. That is the average price for a first-choice right back though. I doubt Orr would be first choice so I'm not sure if it's a fair comparison. Personally I'd let him go for 500k. He's a decent enough player and gives his all but his passing and crossing are pretty poor and he quite often gets caught out trying to be too clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinker Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 That is the average price for a first-choice right back though. I doubt Orr would be first choice so I'm not sure if it's a fair comparison. Personally I'd let him go for 500k. He's a decent enough player and gives his all but his passing and crossing are pretty poor and he quite often gets caught out trying to be too clever. I think he is city through and through often pushing other players. he has been good for goals in the past and battles for us. We need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Faith Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I think he is city through and through often pushing other players. he has been good for goals in the past and battles for us. We need him If we 'need' anyone I'd be quite worried. I imagine he is a good influence around the dressing room and a strong personality but I think we have other players like that such as McIndoe and Basso and I honestly feel as though he is replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins72 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 If we 'need' anyone I'd be quite worried. I imagine he is a good influence around the dressing room and a strong personality but I think we have other players like that such as McIndoe and Basso and I honestly feel as though he is replaceable. Any player is replaceable but its whether there is any real truth in this rumour. If Bradley went to Blackburn would he realisticly play in the first team? Would he be happy playing reserve football? because hes done that with Newcastle and this is why he dropped down to join us. If Orr was offered the chance of Premier League football I'm sure he would want to take it because hes young and would want the step up BUt would it be the right move for him? Who knows!! I think that he will still be in a city shirt come the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinker Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 If we 'need' anyone I'd be quite worried. I imagine he is a good influence around the dressing room and a strong personality but I think we have other players like that such as McIndoe and Basso and I honestly feel as though he is replaceable. Bradley is one of the unsung heroes, never flashy to the point of standing out but an all rounded player. Even got recognized by his own professionals i.e. PFA award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Horsman Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I think GJ would not even contemplate breaking up the defence as he appears to be firmly focussed on improving the attacking personnel of our team. Bradley is worth at least £1.5M, imo. I would be gutted if he left! What Bradley sometimes lacks in his distribution, is more than compensated by his workrate, courage and heart. Even when he has a duff game he never hides and his passion and commitment are characteristics that are not so easy to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest churchill gaffer Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 If we are that desperate to get £350.ooo for Orr from Paul Ince, then we may as well pack up and join the none league! apparently Paul Ince is preparing a bid of that figure for him? (Daily Mail) Lets build the team on what we have already attchieved! We can not loose our main quality players! Espeacially for that kind of money! IMO Orr is the kind of player that would love to remain with us for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pederho ll Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I think GJ would not even contemplate breaking up the defence as he appears to be firmly focussed on improving the attacking personnel of our team. Bradley is worth at least £1.5M, imo. I would be gutted if he left! What Bradley sometimes lacks in his distribution, is more than compensated by his workrate, courage and heart. Even when he has a duff game he never hides and his passion and commitment are characteristics that are not so easy to replace. I agree entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 if we did sell orr, would you want gary to go out and by another right back, or give wilson/ribero a chance? personally, i would like to see ribero given a chance, if he is as exciting as were lead to believe. i have only seen him play for the wales u21's and he had a stormer against a very good french team, but if i remember correctly he was mostly left footed. could he play at right back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest churchill gaffer Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Paul Ince is weighing up a move for Bristol City right-back Bradley Orr. The Liverpool-born defender, 25, fractured his cheekbone in the Play Off Final defeat to Hull but could yet get his dream move to the Premier League if City accept around £350,000. Orr has previously had spells at Newcastle and Burnley. http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/footba...r.html?ITO=1490 YES this was all said yesrerday! Why is'nt it merged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 If we are that desperate to get £350.ooo for Orr from Paul Ince, then we may as well pack up and join the none league! apparently Paul Ince is preparing a bid of that figure for him? (Daily Mail) Lets build the team on what we have already attchieved! We can not loose our main quality players! Espeacially for that kind of money! IMO Orr is the kind of player that would love to remain with us for years. Paul Ince is not naive enough to think that is a realistic bid surely? daily mail became fish and chip wrappings when it became a tabloid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdgifford64 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I think GJ would not even contemplate breaking up the defence as he appears to be firmly focussed on improving the attacking personnel of our team. Bradley is worth at least £1.5M, imo. I would be gutted if he left! What Bradley sometimes lacks in his distribution, is more than compensated by his workrate, courage and heart. Even when he has a duff game he never hides and his passion and commitment are characteristics that are not so easy to replace. The most sensible of all replies i`ve read. Congrats. PDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I think GJ would not even contemplate breaking up the defence as he appears to be firmly focussed on improving the attacking personnel of our team. Bradley is worth at least £1.5M, imo.. It's not a just case of whether GJ would consider breaking up the defence - every player at City has their price and in Bradley's case I should think a bid in the region of 800k should clinch it for Ince or any other Premier league club. We could replace very adequately at that price and have a fair bit left over too. City don't need to sell him but our high finish last season means that bids for our players are likely to be big, even somewhat inflated, and if we have a good replacement in mind there's no harm in shuffling the pack and turning in a profit. No doubt that Orr loves it at City but should an acceptable bid come in it would be a big surprise if he chose to spurn the opportunity of a move to the top league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Would tell them to F off was a huge player for us last season! don't get the title of the best right back in the league for nothing. Unless its stupid money I wouldnt even consider selling him. Anything under a million should just be laughed at, its all good having 750k more in the bank but its not going to win you promotion is it. Would show a serious lack of ambition if we were to sell first Carle then Orr IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Would show a serious lack of ambition if we were to sell first Carle then Orr IMO. Players move on Matt and sometimes it's a good idea to break up a team of nearly men who fell at the last hurdle. Not dismantle the team completely, but bring in 2 or 3 who add something new to the mix. Perhaps, at some stage, we need to give the likes of Ribiero and J.Wilson a chance too. Are you sure one of them isn't going to be better than Bradley? As for showing lack of ambition by selling, well that depends what we do with the money. I somehow doubt City would bank it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Players move on Matt and sometimes it's a good idea to break up a team of nearly men who fell at the last hurdle. Not dismantle the team completely, but bring in 2 or 3 who add something new to the mix. Perhaps, at some stage, we need to give the likes of Ribiero and J.Wilson a chance too. Are you sure one of them isn't going to be better than Bradley? As for showing lack of ambition by selling, well that depends what we do with the money. I somehow doubt City would bank it though. Lets be honest though we were a decent striker away from going up as champions lats season. Had we had Kevin Phillips I'm sure we would be starting this season in the prem. Why not keep the team we had an improve on it? The defence was strong alst season so why change it? all we need is 2 good strikers he will score goals an maybe a decent right winger an see no reason why we cant go 1 better with this group of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Lets be honest though we were a decent striker away from going up as champions lats season. Had we had Kevin Phillips I'm sure we would be starting this season in the prem. Why not keep the team we had an improve on it? The defence was strong alst season so why change it? all we need is 2 good strikers he will score goals an maybe a decent right winger an see no reason why we cant go 1 better with this group of players. GJ's not intending to keep the same group of players though is he, with at least 3 or 4 new faces expected by kick off. To improve, as you put it, we need to replace some players with better one's and definitely get in a couple of goalscorers. I like Bradley as much as the next fan but certainly don't think of him as indispensible and if City get a good offer as described above then little doubt it would be accepted and it would only be fair on the player to do so. He's a good player and no doubt his heart is at City - I've certainly no wish to see him leave -but with the emerging youngsters and our scouting network he could be replaced and the team as a whole improved with the 800k plus I would have in mind as a minimum fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robinmad Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 if we did sell orr, would you want gary to go out and by another right back, or give wilson/ribero a chance? personally, i would like to see ribero given a chance, if he is as exciting as were lead to believe. i have only seen him play for the wales u21's and he had a stormer against a very good french team, but if i remember correctly he was mostly left footed. could he play at right back? Riberio is right footed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bethnalgreenred Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Inces first signing? http://www.blackburn.vitalfootball.co.uk/a...le.asp?a=114753 Blackburn Rovers manager Paul Ince is understood to be keeping tabs on Bristol City right-back Bradley Orr, with newspaper reports suggesting that he could become Ince's first signing since taking over at Ewood Park. Orr, who could've been playing in the Premier League this season anyway had Bristol City not lost in the Play-Off Final to Hull City was named in the Championship Players' Select XI last season and is viewed as one of the highest rated right-backs outside of the Premier League. With the right-back area being one that that is often viewed as one of our most problematic areas (despite Brett Emerton's best efforts, but with David Bentley's imminent departure he could need to fill his role again?) so if he has the quality maybe the 26-year-old could be the answer to our problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessels Chick Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Blackburn Rovers manager Paul Ince is understood to be keeping tabs on Bristol City right-back Bradley Orr, with newspaper reports suggesting that he could become Ince's first signing since taking over at Ewood Park. Guy who works in canteen who told me about the Williams signing before it was mentioned on here has just told me that Orr has agreed a deal to leave. Didn't know where to or for how much only that it was a done deal Shame if it happens - guess would open door for Riberio FTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I would be more than happy with £500, 000 for a player that works very very hard but cant play against pace and has poor distribution. I really like Orr as he has got the passion and fight that rubs onto other players, but in reality we cant turn down good money for him especially as Rebirio is waiting for his chance. If he does go then i wish him all the luck in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy Parrot Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I am usually very conservative in my estimations of how much players are worth but I am shocked at how low some people would go to sell Orr. Every player has a price but for the club to go where we want it to we'd have to improve on Orr, should he leave - and that could take some serious money. I wouldn't have thought we need to sell anyone and that we're in a position to keep our best 15 or so players and only sell those who are not close to the first team. Thus new signings can compete for first XI and the whole squad improves. Therefore we do not need to risk selling anyone and will only sell when the money is very good. Hope he stays. Good right back and as others have said (again something I often think is overstated but in this case not -) his heart and passion is important to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfctimes Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Well on the OS he's stating he's ready for a FGR return. So I can't see him leaving before then, but I'd be surprised if he left here anyway. He seems to love being a fan favourite, and really does enjoy playing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton boy Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I am usually very conservative in my estimations of how much players are worth but I am shocked at how low some people would go to sell Orr. Every player has a price but for the club to go where we want it to we'd have to improve on Orr, should he leave - and that could take some serious money. I wouldn't have thought we need to sell anyone and that we're in a position to keep our best 15 or so players and only sell those who are not close to the first team. Thus new signings can compete for first XI and the whole squad improves. Therefore we do not need to risk selling anyone and will only sell when the money is very good. Hope he stays. Good right back and as others have said (again something I often think is overstated but in this case not -) his heart and passion is important to the club. Agree 100%. Bit surprise that people are even valuing him anything under 1m tbh. This despite his so called poor distributions and struggles with players with pace was voted THE BEST RIGHT BACK IN THE CCC BY HIS FELLOW PLAYERS!!! FFS people we ain't in League 1 anymore.(although I expect a L1 RB moving to the Prem would command a fee way in excess of the 350k being bandied about). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Zeppelin Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 On the OS they have suddenly put up Orr's quotes, but these are taken from the first day training video last week I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I love Orr, but if this was true, then firstly we couldnt deny him that move to secure himself financially for life. In addition, we ought to be looking for around 1 million, and recruit a right back/ centre back for that money - someone who can cover both positions. If not, spend it on wherever else we need to upgrade (up front) and play brian wilson or ribeiro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim K Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 daily mail became fish and chip wrappings when it became a tabloid. A step up from the bog roll it was before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaloneFM Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 A step up from the bog roll it was before then. The self same bogroll that on 8 July 1934 published a headline entitled 'Hurrah For The Blackshirts'. No doubt saying that Oswald Moseley was a pip and a dandy and that Mr Hitler was a jolly little Austrian housepainter that meant no harm. Now, tell me again about the Bradders story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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