Marina's Rolls Royce

Considering it's Hull, it's almost Christmas, Covid is making a spectacular comeback, and the imperfect football our team has been serving up  then any fan travelling to Hull should get a free ticket from SL. Minimum.

1-1 or 2-2 would be a very good result whilst a win would be a winter wonderland.

Good luck City and well done travelling fans.

1 hour ago, The Batman said:

Forgive me, didn't write it fully. I meant it from a financial prospective from clubs who can milk Newcastle for all its worth because they know they have so much cash. 

You're absolutely right regarding all you've noted though. The sheer hypocrisy for them to be even allowed to own a club is a joke. 

Meanwhile..... ordering presents and football kits from China and happily filling the car with petrol 1/3 of which comes from the likes of Saudi, Russia, Libya, Algeria and Nigeria all with similar unblemished human rights records.

Up the Chelski.

2 hours ago, Robbored said:

A guess? or have you got a reliable link?

Just checked the OS and no info on there so I'd guess it's a guess.

4 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

Any thoughts on LJ going to Plymouth?

18th April 2022- bit too early to speculate on the score.

33 minutes ago, ScottishRed said:

Not a chance. Why would LJ leave Sunderland unless he was pushed, which is possible but not right now.

As for DH, assistant manager at Stoke could be working in the EPL next season.

Would be hugely surprised if either would want to work for Swiss Tony again in any case.

Tonight he'll be giving a minimum of 4 fingers to the maccam. Although six fingers would be appropriate for Ipswich.

Now 5 fingers

9 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

No. I’m talking a certain negative , conspiracy theorist that only shows up when we lose . 

That rules out anyone working within BCFC.

Just now, steviestevieneville said:

There also someone else conspicuous by their absence . 
 

Jon Lansdown?

3 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

2 games in hand? 

More like one game in hand over 3rd and 4th, and 2nd have one game in hand on them.

BBC showing different. Now as 1 game in hand.

He should have done two fingers then one finger for clarification.

10 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

After a win, there’s no Hampshire Red/s posts to reply to, so rather than watch The Wheel, my popcorn is reserved for old-smarmy bollox tonight.

Except your'e usually bigger than that, Dave!

Sunderland 2 points from top with 2 games in hand. 2 fingers.

Johnson places two fingers to remind the fans who , let's face it, are not the brightest attribute to the North East..... particularly when a number have recently suggested to go and get Sean Dyche as his replacement.

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

No posts from Hampshire Red this evening then.

10 points from our last 4 home games

1 hour ago, bris red said:

The forum will be predictably quiet tonight as per usual after a win…!

For me Pearson is doing a good enough job with the very limited shower of shite that he has it his disposal. He needs at LEAST 3 or 4 transfer windows to really put his stamp on the squad and only then will we see the true Nigel Pearson’s Bristol City. 
 

I honestly think given time and funds he will have us challenging at this level in a season or two.

Here we go! 10 points from 4 home games and this means what in isolation ? 

Meanwhile- Pearson does well with a shower of shite so is doing a good job and it's down to him..... lose and it's down to the players because they are a shower of shite. 

Another poor scrappy performance but points on the board so every reason to feel more positive, well done the team and well done the manager.

1-0 or 2-1 to City.

Scrappy but committed performance and I think we'll win this with a passionate crowd.

1 hour ago, weepywall said:

Us and Wolves I believe.

along with Nicky Hunt?

2 minutes ago, Harry said:

Fair question. 
I’m not gonna waste 2 hours going through the whole league but let’s take Sheff Utd yesterday. They started 6 players who they’d signed in the last 3 windows. 
I’m also watching Qpr right now. They’ve started 7 players who they’d signed in the last 3 windows. 
Ours yesterday was 1. 

I suspect it make take you more than 2 hours, Harry!!

It really is interesting yet what would be illuminating  would be to see the stats for every single club in comparison- surely with such huge data available there is the answer out there ?

@Davefevs?

Or is Harry the new Hegeler with a new and genuinely important line of statistical info?

( new career in the next lockdown)

42 minutes ago, Harry said:

I was having a little bit of a wonder about our starting line up yesterday and how it was put together. 
I found it quite interesting that to get to the 8 non-academy players we started, you have to go back 50 transfers. 
So that’s 50 signings we’ve made, that resulted in the 8 players being fielded yesterday. 
 

 

Really interesting point. What are the same stats for every other club in the Championship?

Are we the same, better or worse when it comes to transfer turnover? Stats in isolation may be shocking yet others may be more shocking. 

It would also interesting to see whether the high signings v low signings equals better/worse performance.

The points you continually make Harry are incredibly relevant when put in the exact same context of other clubs in our division and specifically those who are promoted, relegated or have points deductions.

17 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Strange one with Simpson, as others have said. He didn't exactly pull up any trees last season when he was on that short term contract.

I know he's probably on a relatively low wage for a man of his experience. But that is a wage that we can't give to anyone else at the moment, due to the contract we've given him. I've no doubt there will be a parting of the ways in the Jan window; and there's no way we are exercising that second year option.

Looking at the midfield at the moment, probably the decision to in effect give Simpson, and King a contract was perhaps a mistake. But at the time, NP wanted more experience in the side. Little did he know that Simpson (I still shudder over perhaps the worst attempt at a backpass I've see from a City player at WBA) levels would drop so badly as they did. He was appalling against Villa in the pre-season as well. No doubt at that stage alarm bells were ringing, and the rush to get Tanner on board started.

I wouldn't be surprised if we go out in the loan market to get 2 x full backs next month. The two playing there at the moment, are generally trying their best; but are not, and have never been full back/wing backs. The same goes for Weimann.

 

What about Taylor Moore? A regular in the Hearts team ( albeit that he got sent off for 2nd yellow last week) who are second in the Scottish Prem but a regular and match fit.

Unwanted by Pearson but seemingly more committed than many in our defence. Not in NP's plans but then again - I'm no longer sure who is.

8 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

I don’t discredit what he, James or King is bringing to the dressing room.

I question that.

What exactly are they bringing? It surely can't be motivation or attitude or additional coaching because what we're seeing appears to be players with no real motivation, a questionable attitude and no real game plan which they stick to. If they are sticking to a game plan then its the wrong one.

Meanwhile the poor signing and questionable largely unpopular signing of Simpson is not Nigel's fault but the fault of the BCFC recruitment department by default. Teflon springs to mind.

48 minutes ago, Taylor10 said:

Yes it’s frustrating at present but even by OTIB standards I feel there is a massive over reaction to today’s result/performance.

I honestly didn’t expect to get anything from today. That’s not to say I’m not fed up, underwhelmed or disappointed but a sense of realism is needed I feel. Not much to be positive about after today but certainly no need for over the top NP out calls based off that display today.

If it were purely about just today then this thread wouldn't exist. The reaction is entirely understandable based on performances this season and the seven losses in the last 12 games. A number of fans are getting nervous about the potential of relegation whilst not really seeing a clear way to safety so again it's not about this one result.

For my part I only starting watching City ( age related!) in 1980/81 so I've spent most of my life watching  "3rd Division" football and every fibre in my body is dreading the possible return to that wretched and depressing league where the only joy is winning it. Lincoln, Morecombe, Accrington Stanley and the obligatory 8 matches with Gillingham- no thanks.

20 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

 

But the objective is to slowly improve.  But that won’t be a straight line.

 

I understand the need to rebuild and re-set . I knew that any improvement would not be linear given the depth of our squad and legacy issues.

I listen to NP's interviews and apart from the occasional almost spat-like sequence with an interviewer, I find him to talk more sense than several of his predecessors.

I made the point last season whilst he was caretaker that ,imo, he shouldn't be given the job until the very end of the season and I was definitely a minority voice. His record was W L L W D L L L D D L L L so 2 wins 3 draws and 9 losses. And a three year contract.

I don't think it could have got any worse so this season was always more likely to be an improvement This season he's played 23 matches and W7  D5 and L 11.  In the last 12 matches ( half the matches played) he has lost 7. This is where I have the problem about green shoots/improvement/right direction etc. I just dont see it when combined with performances which have been genuinely very poor and we've been incredibly fortunate not to have had a pasting from various teams courtesy of their bad finishing and not our resolute defending.

The record after over 8 months since Nige took over is Played 37 Lost 20 Drawn 8 and Won9 . If our performances showed that the players we have are giving their all for the shirt, team and Manager then I'd be less scathing. But the reality is that good moments of football are not in anything other than fleetingly brief periods and to my eyes  it's looking worse not better with relegation being a genuinely possible outcome. For this reason, I believe that unless there is an upturn in both points and performances then SL should cut his losses in December and bring in a new coach for the January window with the sole objective/brief to keep us in this division.

I think this is a reasoned argument albeit an unpopular one and not one that shrieks "Agenda" except to the many who perhaps dont have such a reasoned response as yourself. On that note thanks for you courteous, comprehensive and understandable reply.

44 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

You are welcome to state your opinion. I just wonder how annoyed you were against Stoke when you didn’t get an opportunity to state it.  You are free to state your opinion and I am free to form my own opinion of fellow City fans who gloat when we lose.

12 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

It is a forum. You cannot whinge when your opinions are critiques. Free speech works both ways. You are welcome to express an opinion and I am welcome to express an opinion on your opinion. You may want to stop grousing and deal with that.

You are falsely commenting on my lack of reaction following the Stoke game- that's not your  opinion, it's your misleading narrative . I did clearly state my opinion following my attendance of the Stoke match- here it is( for the 2nd time):

 Wednesday at 22:03

End of.

2 minutes ago, David Brent said:

You’re a clown. In my opinion.

are you sure it's not an agenda?

2 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Oh come on.

After Saturday's game you made 3 posts late on, all negative and complaining.

After Wednesday's win, we got one. Mentioning how the performance wasn't good.

Today? We've had 6 in the last 30 minutes.

Funnily enough I rarely post when I'm at a game- I tend to watch the game not otib

This is the post you mention which was at 22:03 after the game. No "agenda" just my thoughts.

•  Wednesday at 22:03

2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

You are welcome to state your opinion. I just wonder how annoyed you were against Stoke when you didn’t get an opportunity to state it.  You are free to state your opinion and I am free to form my own opinion of fellow City fans who gloat when we lose.

Those who gloat following a loss are not any type of fan.

Clearly, I'm not welcome to state my opinion.

5 minutes ago, lenred said:

You’ve got an agenda against NP as your per your thread a few weeks ago, so I couldn’t give two Tom tits what you think. Where were you on Wednesday night by the way? Not on here iirc. Amazing that you’ve showed up again today…..

Check the MD thread and I was. I dont go missing win lose or draw - can you say the same?

And why does not believing in a Manager equal an agenda? An "agenda" is not not supporting a Manager irrespective of results.

5 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

Do we have to start this conversation again every time we lose? I would understand it after three bad performances in a row but two decent performances in the last week seem to fly out the window, along with the fact we are missing our three most experienced central midfielders.

Yes - it  is worrying how dependent our season appears to be on Williams’ hamstrings but bored by supporters of a team expected to finish lower mid table throwing their toys out the pram because we lost away to a team just out of the premier league when we have injuries and they have a new manager bounce.

Yes- depending on how many times we fail to win or put in a cohesive performance where the players look like they give a shit. 

It's a forum and fortunately there are no rules in not stating an opinion which you believe in. If believing that our Manager of 8 months after 34 matches is not the right man for the job yet "throwing toys out of my pram" then you best duck.