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2 hours ago, BigTone said:

Auto promotion with 139 points

Why will we have one point more than the possible maximum?

I'm approaching my 80th birthday and my hopes for next season and many more to follow are that I'm still physically able to get to home matches.

The progress since Nigel Pearson arrived has stuttered at times. However, I believe, like many others, that we are steadily improving with a much smaller squad but much more together than the preceding three years.

I know we may lose Alex Scott to cash loaded Premier but I feel more confident that that income will be used wisely by Tinman and Nige. Sides that struggle to win matches are usually those that find it hard to score. But our major problems have been at the other end of the field so the recruitment of midfielders and defenders together with Pearson's knowledge as a pretty decent defender in the top two leagues, should be the big improvement area.

I am confident that it will be and I also feel that we could be spending a lot of time in the top six of the coming season.

3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Loving this. Recently got a new job in Bury and planning to go and watch them so nice to have a city tie in 

Bury in Greater Manc or Bury St Edmunds which is where The Bury Town play?

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yes, removal of all or some of the cartilage can mean the problem doesn’t go away.  Bone on bone in some cases.  I have about one third left in my right knee (result of ACL) and close to bugger all in my left (result of overcompensating after ACL).  Hence I get fluid build up if I do much walking (I don’t run these days).

It is possible to re-grow cartilage.  No idea how, but it also needs the right surface area to try it.  Mr Webb (the old England RFU full-back) told me that.  I didn’t have that area on mine to try.  He suffers the same he told me.

Might be worth googling Jamie Shore - ex-Norwich and Gas, as I believe he was the first footballer to try it.

England and Bristol Rugby. Yet another one of Bristol's great rugby amateurs who played the game for fun. And must be coming up to retirement age for a surgeon. Makes me feel absolutely ancient. I walk about five miles a day with our dog but fortunately I don't have any joint problems. How lucky I am.

1 hour ago, bcfc01 said:

As we all know, Pring goes galloping up the wing whilst playing full back, Tanner is getting used to playing much further forward than he has been used to playing.

I don't see Wilson as any different, he could slot in at full back whilst also venturing forward at every opportunity - just needs to displace Tanner.

I don't know if he is still feeling the injury or if NP has been very cautious with him after saying its an injury he'll need to manage for the rest of his career, but I'd be surprised if it were anything other than that.

 

If he has had a cartilage removed from his knee, it means that even with modern medical knowledge, he'll have future problems with pain barrier. Gerry Gow had all four knee cartilages removed by 1976 and admitted to pain but was hard enough to play through it.

For Wilson it could be the same and if he wants a successful career, then he must learn to cope. It's possibly a mental problem combined with physical.

To the best of my knowledge and only guessing, all the modern medical methods, they can replace a heart but not a cartilage.

4 hours ago, Northern Red said:

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/60217/city-surrender-provides-perfect-summation-of-qprs-dire-season--report

This was posted in the Alex Scott thread and is a great read, and not just because it's highly complimentary of us. Max's rating out of 10 is "not applicable" due to him not actually having anything to do.

Very good piece by a very respectful and totally fed up QPR fan. He deserves a better performance for his honesty.

12 hours ago, Adge's Cider Mug said:

May have been York, but also scored another bullet header against Brentford (Carl Hutchings played for them). Met Bobby and Rob Newman in the Porthouse on Princes Street that night and said ‘great goal today Bobby’. His response was ‘it just hit me head, mate’. Agreed, great player and seemed to be a decent guy.

If rumour was to be believed, Bobby H was a top scorer at all the clubs he played for!

1 hour ago, southvillekiddy said:

Eric Morecambe.

Genius.

His only fault was being President of a certain football Club.

 

Yes, but his bit of radio commentary at a Luton v City match is right up there with the best of Brian Johnston Test Match commentaries. Hilarious is it not?

No but I remember him and all the left backs since 1950. Here goes.

Jack Bailey, Mike Thresher, Alec Briggs, the only right footed one. Bryan Drysdale, Geoff Merrick, only in First Division, Terry Cooper. That takes us up to 1980 and over to all the previous mentioned.

My number one of all time is Mike Thresher.

My guess is that we'll finish on 59.

Having seen the days over 50 years ago when Alan Dicks was struggling without much money to spend on better players while he developed his youngsters, I can see so many similar good things happening at City now. 

The time span from 1967 to 1972 is longer than the two and half seasons since Pearson and Gould (#) began the recovery. But the introduction of so many good young and inexperienced, together with the clearing of the deadwood has happened so quickly.

As an eternal realist or even pessimistic, I can see so many good things happening at City. How long it will take to give it a real go at promotion is not yet clear. The next season or two are going to be when Bristol City become recognised as a force in English football instead of an also ran who are more likely to go down than up.

(#) sorry, forgot to include Tinnion.

34 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Some of my faves across the eras (78 first game), just players I liked watching

Jan Moller

Tom Ritchie

Martin Scott

John McPhail

Rob Newman

Alan Walsh

Glyn Riley

Dave Smith

Bob Taylor

Michael McIndoe

Tammy Abraham

Tommy Conway

 

That's a pretty decent list but as you're still a youngster, here are a few more to add.

Atyeo, Jimmy Rogers, Tommy Burden, Mike Thresher, Jack Connor, Brian Clark, Jantzen Derrick, Trevor Tainton.

2 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

Alan Dicks by a mile. Terry Cooper by a mile.

And Pat Beasley, Fred Ford, Joe Jordan, Nigel Pearson

Fewest live TV and probably fewest penalty kicks! 

Bottom of the table for TV and Referees.

22 minutes ago, Super said:

In fairness SKY just want to show the games that create the most interest. They pay the money and the clubs take the money.

What money did we get? Sod all!

15 hours ago, Nugget said:

Well, his post award interview has given some hint of wanting to stay. Could just be good media training & not the right setting to say otherwise!

IF Alex does decide to stay another year or two, I would hope that we play him in one position in the side. I'm not going to say which, as I'm not qualified to do so, but Pearson and his coaches are.

By deciding which is his most promising and productive place in the team, I suggest it would also be a big benefit in the long run, to his growth towards top Premier and England, combined with a more significant sale price. 

28 minutes ago, cider hoss rules said:

When the barber asked me that and I said yes……. he gave me a bloody lawnmower!

Brilliant!

Surprise result? No!

Yorkshire clubs looking after each other.

5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I think it's important for the club to remember that there is still lots more that can be done. 

Whilst kids tickets are cheap it still remains expensive for a family to take kids to a football game. Food and drink prices are ridiculously high. Yes OK it's a choice whether to buy food or drink but when you have kids nagging it can be hard to say no. 

Maybe they could look at introducing an affordable meal deal for kids? Chips, sausage, drink, couple of quid and cost pennies to make. 

Do the kids really need to feed and drink at a match? It's usually played between lunch and dinner time ( in old money, dinner and tea) so if they are stuffing calories down. No wonder that many of the young of today are overweight. I've survived to a month away from 80th without a pot belly from eating or drinking even water at a City match when I was growing up!

7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Been growing in the wider game since the low point of the mid 1980s.

Here I would say definitely it has been, when I started following it was 10-15k average, now it is 20k.

Also have to factor in how attendances are counted now too and again this is a game wide all tickets sold vs all actual in attendance- clubs will have both figures.

Attendances may have been higher before all seating and no payment at turnstiles, due to fiddling by every stage of the chain - turnstile operator through to Board Room.

43 minutes ago, myol'man said:

In my 50 years or so of supporting City, we get, on average, one successful season per decade. So it's coming soon! Then the numbers will really take off.

You can understand why potential investors are concerned about the size of the stadium. 

Only problem is we also have had one drop per ten years.

PS. Except for the 1980's when we went mad with three drops

Also the first team to go from First to Fourth Division in three seasons. One of which we had the Gas for company. And in 1990 we both went up in the same division. I have never been able to find any provincial city, IE outside of Greater London, which has had both it's clubs promoted and relegated in the same league and same season.

52 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

 

Well, there's also a wider trend across the country with attendances high at all levels, including sub L2. People are just going to football in numbers everywhere currently. 

Whisper it, but Rovers are getting as many, or more, at third tier level than we got under Osman in the second tier. Which tells you something (but not necessarily what a Fewer might tell you)

Osman was a manager? Not in my book!

6 minutes ago, TheReds said:

Where exactly did you get that stat from?

After the second Man City defeat we got 13 points from our next 11 League games:, so unsure where you are getting 11 points from 23 games?

QPR W

Bolton L

Sunderland D

Leeds D

Fulham D

Cardiff L

Sheff W W

Preston L

Burton D

Ipswich W

I might have the season wrong. It could have been the season before or the one after. That manager, and I use the word loosely, had these very long periods of minimal points gathering almost every season.

And he certainly has not had any influence on the increases over the last two years. Those are due to the  management of Pearson and Gould. And the use of our own Academy boys instead of loaning them all out and buying expensive Premier league reserves.

1 hour ago, robinforlife2 said:

I've had £225 to win £100 on Huddersfield or the draw, I thought this was good value myself.

You have spent £225 to win £100? Send your stake to me next time you have cash to throw away.

2 hours ago, Super said:

I think we have Lee Johnson to thank it all took off after beating Man U.

You really are joking! We were second in the league after the Manure win.

Followed quickly by a stupid and inept defeat by Wolves after leading their ten men with 20 minutes to go.

Ignoring the Semi Final defeat by Man City, didn't we gather a magnificent total of 11 points from the next SIXTY NINE on offer!

Any other club in the country would have dispensed their manager. But not BCFC. Oh no he was still here a couple of years later, still bumbling along.

On 18/04/2023 at 22:56, Kingswood Robin said:

I remember going to Wolves when they were in the middle of their own triple drop, and guess what, they beat us 

No surprise as our last away win at Molineux was in 1931.