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He's got to wait his turn hasn't he? Others ahead of him from a "waiting for their chance" perspective....and NIge has rules!

I drink it in the Congo!!!

Talk of a 2 year transfer embargo too. Not so attractive ?

Suspect one problem might be that Wilder had a £4m “payoff” which might actually mean they didn’t pay him off but are still paying his wages…until someone wants him and will need to buy him out of his contract. Paying off £4m is not good for FFP.

Nige said he’d had a couple of little set backs but trained fully on Tuesday.

Ta….I’ve no idea who owns the ground anymore, or whether it’s part of the myriad of companies included in the administration as per the statement. Big question, who will buy the club without the ground? Agree…..I’m also grateful for his backing / sensible backing, but he’s made some big mistakes too.

Ta. I’d say positionally we are doing better than expectations. Performance wise we are still mixed…but been some good ones and a couple of poorer ones. We have been “in” every game, look more physical. We’ve improved our set plays, well the ones taken with feet!!! We have scored 4 from set plays…last season we scored 5 all-season. Its far from perfect, but was it ever gonna be after losing lots of players and being hamstrung financially? What we are seeing now is probably what Nige would’ve liked to have dine last season….make us harder to beat, start from the back, etc, etc….but the squad wasn’t up for that build….so it commenced in the summer. I don’t dismiss last season, but it’s not very relevant imho, apart from delaying the “true start”. Others will disagree.

Out of interest, what do you reckon SL does with the snake oil Ashton sold him?

SOD built foundations admittedly, but we were near the bottom of Lg1, Nige is building foundations and has us 12th (maybe lower after today - pessimism from me) in the Champ….and we look competitive. I agree that if we were bottom in January you would raise concerns. But, really what are the chances of that on the evidence of this season? Even less so with Derby’s plight ??? You say you are willing to give him a chance, but several of your posts have a theme based on a worst case scenario, e.g. if we were bottom, to create your view. What is your best case scenario, what is your most likely scenario. What we’re your expectations before the season started?

Having looked up the rules I think the exact opposite. MM wants to sell and sell quick. Knows he’s gonna get 9 point deduction. Derby likely to be in amongst the relegation battle anyway. 9 points lost could be the tipping point. New buyers are gonna be very sceptical about the price of a Championship club with threat of relegation. So, go into Administration, take minus 21 and that confirms relegation. They don’t have a squad capable of 65+ points (44+) that might save them, least of all if the Administrators start selling assets. So the sell becomes a clean League One proposition…and Mel hopes they find new buyers quickly. He’s intimated as such. New owners get to keep some of the squad together. Thats my opinion. Not sure if it makes sense or not. What do you reckon?

I know. Imagine 1982 again.

I think most people have added a comment to that effect.

Not just fans…major impact on staff, their livelihoods at stake…just like Bolton. Mel won't be struggling will he?

No sign of EFL sympathy there. ????

Thought he was going to the Premier League this summer. ???

I can only guess @Mr Popodopolousis either shithousing on the Derby forum or having the biggest w*** ever.

Yes, owners can invest money into the turnover figure whereas in champ they can only cover losses. http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php

Yeah, just seen that…. I didn’t know Administration came with a transfer embargo too. Not heard that before. Guessing Wigan only signed free transfers due to “senior players” rules?

Yep, definitely Lg1 is the place to be with new owners, with different FFP rules to the Champ.

Mr Pedant…. I never got sent-off put the Merlot down….now!

In the spirit of fair competition, they cheated the rules. they got found out. Of course I feel for the fans, not as much as Wycombe fans though. But I have great pleasure that the cheating club will get their just desserts eventually through the EFL charges when they get put through. Even through this Morris is trying to play the game by adding administration in because he knows 9 points might be tough to overcome.

Yes, someone corrected me re that. Thanks. So basically Mel thinks the best way of selling is to take a 21 point deduction so whoever takes over will know they are taking on a League One club with no pending points deduction. Bet the fans don’t love him anymore!

So the Administration Team will be in effect selling the club as a League One club. There’s little chance they’d get enough points (say 70) to offset a 21 point deduction. The aim of any new owners will be to either try to get enough points to avoid minus 12 being carried into next season next season, so probably still need circa 60 points. Tough ask. Automatically yep. But they still have the other EFL charges….this is not one or the other.

Administration is totally separate to the EFL Charges.

Yep. So the 9 could relegate them, and then they’d be minus 12 next season. Double whammy, but like a double whammy of selling a stadium to “yourself”.