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John Percy seems to be the go to guy. Check out the latest on Quantuma: As of tonight: Andy Appleby group have contacted Quantuma “multiple times” this week with no response. Mike Ashley group, through Lee Charnley, are also saying the same. Mindboggling

Churchill also respected him. Bevin was going to retire until Churchill persuaded him to join the War Cabinet.

You have. Now go away and think about what you've done.?

Actually the same people who were cheering on Morris for dragging things out and having the EFL on strings are now criticising them for being too slow. They're not big on self awareness. And now one of them is saying the EFL was happy with Morris' "novel" accounting methods until Kieran Maguire forced them to change their mind. You couldn't make it up. Except of course that they do.

It was the tour of Knowle West wot done it.?

Gee thanks for triggering flashbacks to my youth. Though in my day it was the Top Rank. ?

From John Percy in the Telegraph. Note the detail of Quantuma's behaviour: Derby County have been plunged deeper into crisis after Chris Kirchner’s takeover bid collapsed. Quantuma, the Derby administrators, are under increasing pressure after Kirchner failed to meet a 5pm deadline to complete a deal. The English Football League are understood to be furious and an already dire situation is now critical with the fixtures for the new season to be announced later this month. EFL bosses will demand that Derby provide evidence they can start and complete the 2022/23 campaign, while payroll for staff and players is also required for June, and with Kirchner’s takeover bid disintegrating the club is racing against time to find a buyer. Former Derby chairman Andy Appleby remains interested in a purchase, but is desperately seeking financial backing after Richard Riley, an American businessman, pulled out in January. Riley is now on the board at Queens Park Rangers. Ex-Newcastle owner Mike Ashley is still determined to complete a buyout but negotiations with Quantuma have been fractious. Steve Morgan, the former Wolves chairman, has been linked with a bid, though it is understood his interest waned after Derby’s relegation to League One. Kirchner could still remain a contender, though Quantuma are under serious scrutiny after naming him as preferred bidder in April. Kirchner had provided proof of funds to the EFL but failed to transfer the money, raising questions over whether Quantuma carried out proper due diligence. It is also alleged that Quantuma agreed a deal with Appleby’s consortium in January, but then mysteriously withdrew from talks. Appleby had thrashed out a deal which included the purchase of Pride Park stadium, while Morgan had also smoothed over the legal dispute with Middlesbrough chairman Steve Gibson. There are other allegations that Quantuma are declining to enter dialogue with Ashley after a stormy meeting earlier this year, in which the billionaire was heavily critical of their methods and ethics. Sources claim he had also agreed a deal with Mel Morris, the former Derby owner, over the stadium in December. Now Quantuma are locked in a battle to find a buyer, with pre-season training at Derby to start in a fortnight. Wayne Rooney, the manager, is facing further problems with his assistant, Liam Rosenior, in the frame to take over at Blackpool. Rosenior has been interviewed by the Championship club after the departure of Neil Critchley and is a strong contender for the post. Derby have been in administration since September, with only five senior players currently contracted to the club.

He's on holiday. Having a medical at Coventry next week.

Allegedly Ashley is refusing to pay their fees. Anybody would think they hadn't earned them with the brilliant job they've done.?

It was that he wanted them to write his business plan apparently plus they weren't convinced he could deliver the money.

Preston saw through him yet Quantuma took him seriously and Derby fans fell in love with him. The man has advanced tyre kicking skills for sure.

Radio Derby said it definitely wasn't Rooney but did not reveal who it was other than somebody close to the club. It certainly wasn't Kirchner.

Ernie Bevin then? A remarkable man but there's no chance of somebody from his background getting to high office these days. All lawyers, PPE graduates and the like now, not even vaguely reflecting the population.

More detail: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jun/10/efl-clubs-allowed-to-wear-away-kits-at-home-to-help-colour-blind-people

Or liquidation. 2 more from Dorsett: EXCL: been told Andy Appleby and Steve Morgan bids for #dcfc are “not easily resurrectable”, and real danger of liquidation if Kirchner deal falls through. Both Morgan and Appleby consortiums have lost investors since not getting preferred bidder status. Dialogue still open tho. EXCL: Mike Ashley bid being ignored by administrators because Ashley is refusing to pay Quantuma fees, thought to be several million pounds. Still no communication on that front. If Kirchner bid fails, #dcfc seem to have limited options. Other deals may be poss, but not quickly.

Thought Max Hastings, his editor at the Telegraph, did say that the only people who like Boris are the people who don't know him. ?

From Rob Dorsett at Sky: Been told #dcfc now talking to other parties as 5pm deadline for Kirchner looms. Ex chairman Andy Appleby and ex #wwfc owner Steve Morgan are the other options being explored, but Quantuma still refusing to engage with Mike Ashley.

Needless to say the Derby fans on their forum are furious with this statement. Apparently it's more proof of the EFL conspiracy against them. What an irrational lot they are.

No, it's just non-payment of tax due. From Investopedia: The term tax avoidance refers to the use of legal methods to minimize the amount of income tax owed by an individual or a business. This is generally accomplished by claiming as many deductions and credits as are allowable. It may also be achieved by prioritizing investments that have tax advantages, such as buying tax-free municipal bonds. Tax avoidance is not the same as tax evasion, which relies on illegal methods such as under reporting income and falsifying deductions.

Quantuma are actually saying he has until then to provide satisfactory evidence that he is in a position to complete, not that he has to complete by then. So how has it got this far without him having provided that evidence given the deadline was 31May?

Tax evasion is a technical term for illegally failing to pay tax due e.g. by making false returns, faking documents etc. Derby haven't done that they simply haven't paid up. Tax is after all for the little people.?

The amount Derby owe will include penalties. It was originally reported as something like £27m and has risen to £36m as far as we know. A club owner is not personally liable for a club's taxes so Morris gets a free pass. The liability remains with the club, which cannot come out of administration until a settlement is reached with HMRC. We are assuming a deal has been done with them though we don't know for sure. As far as I'm aware not paying tax due is not a criminal offence, unless you are guilty of tax evasion, which is not the case here. So nobody goes to jail however disreputable their behaviour.

Sky are saying so but Nixon is saying no. I suspect Sky are reporting rumour as fact but then again Nixon is clearly now Kirchner's mouthpiece so he would say that wouldn't he? Quantuma are saying nothing of course. Though their statements are usually rambling near gibberish written in very bad English anyway. Edit: Nixon now saying Quantuma are his source.

Does that take into account the significant reduction in the wage budget we made last summer?