I Pay My Money To Be Entrtained!

[gaz897]

This has to be the most boring, dull and unattractive football played at the gate in years. In fact its worse than last season. Of course I want promotion, but I'd rather us try and do it playing exciting football on the ground. At least at home matches anyway. I can understnd us plaing 3 centre backs away at the likes of Newcastle etc.... but GJ this is utter crap boring football. Your team selection for me is a joke, hence Paul Hartley on the bench. You can't see your son and Boom Boom are not good enough for this level and your formatio is toally negative. What a bore it is to watch every home game Gary.

I know I will be told by some not to go then but i'm a season ticket holder and I will always follow our club. However the last 2 years have made my mind up. New manager please Steve.

[Markman]

apart from the new manager comment this is the same thread as the one by mossey from yesterday

[Taunton_City]

Oh my GOD!!!!!!!! This forum!!! When we win it goes mental, WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE AMAZING! POLLS ON WILL WE BE TOP AT SOME POINT THIS SEASON! :noexpression:

When we lose or draw, Johnson OUT!! Lee Johnson is this and that! We are boring ect ect ect......

MY GOD PEOPLE GET A GRIP!!! WE ARE 5TH, YES THATS RIGHT 5TH IN THE 2ND TIER OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL!!

WE HAVE NOT LOST A HOME LEAGUE GAME IN NEARLY A YEAR!!!!

Sorry to shout

Oh one last thing we didnt deserve to draw yesterday, we deserved to LOSE!!! So be happy with a point!

[Red]

Oh my GOD!!!!!!!! This forum!!! When we win it goes mental, WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE AMAZING! POLLS ON WILL WE BE TOP AT SOME POINT THIS SEASON! :noexpression:

When we lose or draw, Johnson OUT!! Lee Johnson is this and that! We are boring ect ect ect......

MY GOD PEOPLE GET A GRIP!!! WE ARE 5TH, YES THATS RIGHT 5TH IN THE 2ND TIER OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL!!

WE HAVE NOT LOST A HOME LEAGUE GAME IN NEARLY A YEAR!!!!

Sorry to shout

Oh one last thing we didnt deserve to draw yesterday, we deserved to LOSE!!! So be happy with a point!

Thank god were not in the prem, we wouldl get hammered EVERY game 6-0

[Taunton_City]

Thank god were not in the prem, we wouldl get hammered EVERY game 6-0

Can you imagine some people on here if that was the case....

[CiderHider]

This has to be the most boring, dull and unattractive football played at the gate in years. In fact its worse than last season. Of course I want promotion, but I'd rather us try and do it playing exciting football on the ground. At least at home matches anyway. I can understnd us plaing 3 centre backs away at the likes of Newcastle etc.... but GJ this is utter crap boring football. Your team selection for me is a joke, hence Paul Hartley on the bench. You can't see your son and Boom Boom are not good enough for this level and your formatio is toally negative. What a bore it is to watch every home game Gary.

I know I will be told by some not to go then but i'm a season ticket holder and I will always follow our club. However the last 2 years have made my mind up. New manager please Steve.

What an utterly retarded post

[Drew Peacock]

This has to be the most boring, dull and unattractive football played at the gate in years. In fact its worse than last season. Of course I want promotion, but I'd rather us try and do it playing exciting football on the ground. At least at home matches anyway. I can understnd us plaing 3 centre backs away at the likes of Newcastle etc.... but GJ this is utter crap boring football. Your team selection for me is a joke, hence Paul Hartley on the bench. You can't see your son and Boom Boom are not good enough for this level and your formatio is toally negative. What a bore it is to watch every home game Gary.

I know I will be told by some not to go then but i'm a season ticket holder and I will always follow our club. However the last 2 years have made my mind up. New manager please Steve.

You've put a "Z" in your user name by mistake.

[Guest pogopete]

Oh my GOD!!!!!!!! This forum!!! When we win it goes mental, WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE AMAZING! POLLS ON WILL WE BE TOP AT SOME POINT THIS SEASON! :noexpression:

When we lose or draw, Johnson OUT!! Lee Johnson is this and that! We are boring ect ect ect......

MY GOD PEOPLE GET A GRIP!!! WE ARE 5TH, YES THATS RIGHT 5TH IN THE 2ND TIER OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL!!

WE HAVE NOT LOST A HOME LEAGUE GAME IN NEARLY A YEAR!!!!

Sorry to shout

Oh one last thing we didnt deserve to draw yesterday, we deserved to LOSE!!! So be happy with a point!

Having watched Leicester QPR WBA and a few of the top sides on sky we are light years from a side capable of going up.

[pdgifford64]

This has to be the most boring, dull and unattractive football played at the gate in years. In fact its worse than last season. Of course I want promotion, but I'd rather us try and do it playing exciting football on the ground. At least at home matches anyway. I can understnd us plaing 3 centre backs away at the likes of Newcastle etc.... but GJ this is utter crap boring football. Your team selection for me is a joke, hence Paul Hartley on the bench. You can't see your son and Boom Boom are not good enough for this level and your formatio is toally negative. What a bore it is to watch every home game Gary.

I know I will be told by some not to go then but i'm a season ticket holder and I will always follow our club. However the last 2 years have made my mind up. New manager please Steve.

Ok...here we go. Come on then Einstein. Lets assume that SL hears your desperate plea and says to GJ , sorry Gary appreciate everything you`ve done and despite the vast majority of supporters still happy i`m going to listen to the small, very small, very very small minority that want you out. What then ?

You`ve given us your reasons for wanting him out and you`re entitled to your opinion but please...i`m curious, who do you want to replace him ?

PDG

[pdgifford64]

Having watched Leicester QPR WBA and a few of the top sides on sky we are light years from a side capable of going up.

Having watch qpr v leicester i thought some of the football at times was absolutely dire.

PDG

[Tunley Legend]

Having watch qpr v leicester i thought some of the football at times was absolutely dire.

PDG

No different to us then (although I would argue that QPR and Leicester show a hell of a lot more attacking intent than Gary Johnson's sides do). My question is "Do we pay over £400 a season ticket or £28 on the day to watch dire?".

[pdgifford64]

No different to us then (although I would argue that QPR and Leicester show a hell of a lot more attacking intent than Gary Johnson's sides do). My question is "Do we pay over £400 a season ticket or £28 on the day to watch dire?".

With work commitments making it unfeasable to get a season ticket this time around i pay my money on the day as and when i can get down. I pay it to watch the team i have had in my blood since i was a boy. I pay it knowing i`m not gonna get Arsenalesque footie every time i come down, which makes the moments when we do all the more enjoyable. If you and others want to pay your money to watch football in a comfortable bubble where you get everything you want then as you may have already gathered, you`re gonna be very disappointed.

It has been mentioned already that a match does consist of TWO teams, it`s something more people on this forum should take into consideration before they start screaming blue murder.

PDG

[reddogkev]

I didn't think yesterday's game was boring at all - yes it royally pissed me off when we had to settle for another bloody draw, but that's the beauty of football, you never know what's going to happen or what the result's gonna be.

I enjoyed yesterday's game and the atmosphere and would gladly watch the exact same game today if the day was going to repeat itself!

And you don't pay your money to be entertained when going to watch football - YOU PAY YOUR MONEY TO FOLLOW YOUR TEAM!!!

Cinema / concerts / theatre = entertainment.

Football = passion and the beauty of the unknown.

[Roger Red Hat]

I didn't think yesterday's game was boring at all - yes it royally pissed me off when we had to settle for another bloody draw, but that's the beauty of football, you never know what's going to happen or what the result's gonna be.

I enjoyed yesterday's game and the atmosphere and would gladly watch the exact same game today if the day was going to repeat itself!

And you don't pay your money to be entertained when going to watch football - YOU PAY YOUR MONEY TO FOLLOW YOUR TEAM!!!

Cinema / concerts / theatre = entertainment.

Football = passion and the beauty of the unknown.

Sadly, in our case that seems to be increasingly untrue!

[Economou]

No different to us then (although I would argue that QPR and Leicester show a hell of a lot more attacking intent than Gary Johnson's sides do). My question is "Do we pay over £400 a season ticket or £28 on the day to watch dire?".

So a front line with Maynard, Haynes & Saborio is not attacking ?

[gaz897]

I dont care if i get banned, but you are a cock.

I cant believe we have "supporters" as thick as you

Just my opinion. I think you're rude and I hope you do get chucked off. Most of your post on here just appear on Lee Johnson threads defending him like he's your illegitimate love child. I made my point on the game yesterday and you have to bring it down to this level. I don't agree with GJ tactics, team selection and general voice on fans etc. Cheers.

[Riaz]

Just my opinion. I think you're rude and I hope you do get chucked off. Most of your post on here just appear on Lee Johnson threads defending him like he's your illegitimate love child. I made my point on the game yesterday and you have to bring it down to this level. I don't agree with GJ tactics, team selection and general voice on fans etc. Cheers.

Lee Johnson had a shocker yesterday.... I wasnt defending him. Anyone who wants a new manager is thick as shit.

[Lack of Action Man]

Lee Johnson had a shocker yesterday.... I wasnt defending him. Anyone who wants a new manager is thick as shit.

We don't need a new manager but we definitely need new ideas coming into the club especially in the tactical department. I would suggest bringing in a director of football but I feel this would not go down well with Gj's ego and management team. Plus there wouldn't be anyone realistically available to fill such a roll at the present time.

[gaz897]

Lee Johnson had a shocker yesterday.... I wasnt defending him. Anyone who wants a new manager is thick as shit.

Brilliant.....you've obviously used your superior inteligence in that reply. I'll fetch your toys....

[Tunley Legend]

So a front line with Maynard, Haynes & Saborio is not attacking ?

The potential is definitely there, I don't deny that. We need to find a way of providing them with some decent service. Sometimes I would like us to make the opposition worry about us whereas I feel our mentality is to worry about them in the main.

[Tunley Legend]

With work commitments making it unfeasable to get a season ticket this time around i pay my money on the day as and when i can get down. I pay it to watch the team i have had in my blood since i was a boy. I pay it knowing i`m not gonna get Arsenalesque footie every time i come down, which makes the moments when we do all the more enjoyable. If you and others want to pay your money to watch football in a comfortable bubble where you get everything you want then as you may have already gathered, you`re gonna be very disappointed.

It has been mentioned already that a match does consist of TWO teams, it`s something more people on this forum should take into consideration before they start screaming blue murder.

PDG

I've played enough football at a reasonable level to know that teams cannot just go out there and play as they please and that they have to earn the right to play their own way. My gripe is with the way we set ourselves up and our general intent as a team - it is just not attacking enough at home in my opinion. I've watched enough crap players play crap football at Ashton Gate over the years - I'm now waiting for this current squad of good players to play the football that matches their abilities.

[gaz897]

I've played enough football at a reasonable level to know that teams cannot just go out there and play as they please and that they have to earn the right to play their own way. My gripe is with the way we set ourselves up and our general intent as a team - it is just not attacking enough at home in my opinion. I've watched enough crap players play crap football at Ashton Gate over the years - I'm now waiting for this current squad of good players to play the football that matches their abilities.

Totally agree with your last two comments. Maybe it does seem harsh but its down to GJ and he's been doing it all season.

[pdgifford64]

Totally agree with your last two comments. Maybe it does seem harsh but its down to GJ and he's been doing it all season.

I`m still waiting to hear who you want to replace him Einstein.

PDG

[gaz897]

I`m still waiting to hear who you want to replace him Einstein.

PDG

I'd be happy with anyone who plays with wingers, width, 4-4-2 and doesn't have their son in the team. Paul Ince would get my vote, but I'm sure you'd have a very good opinion on that. But I take it your happy watching boring football week in week out PDG so don't worry about it. How stupid of me to put my view on a 'forum'

[pdgifford64]

I'd be happy with anyone who plays with wingers, width, 4-4-2 and doesn't have their son in the team. Paul Ince would get my vote, but I'm sure you'd have a very good opinion on that. But I take it your happy watching boring football week in week out PDG so don't worry about it. How stupid of me to put my view on a 'forum'

Whether or not i`m happy with it isn`t the issue, i was merely pointing out that to add some credence to your post you might have thought about it a bit more and possibly come up with a possible replacement. Paul Ince you say............never mind eh.

PDG

[Economou]

The potential is definitely there, I don't deny that. We need to find a way of providing them with some decent service. Sometimes I would like us to make the opposition worry about us whereas I feel our mentality is to worry about them in the main.

I think teams do fear us, especially at AG where they tend to rely on the odd counter attack.

Wednesday played a good open game and gave us more trouble than any opposition I can think of this season, even before our goal.

[Martyn Hocking]

This has to be the most boring, dull and unattractive football played at the gate in years. In fact its worse than last season. Of course I want promotion, but I'd rather us try and do it playing exciting football on the ground. At least at home matches anyway. I can understnd us plaing 3 centre backs away at the likes of Newcastle etc.... but GJ this is utter crap boring football. Your team selection for me is a joke, hence Paul Hartley on the bench. You can't see your son and Boom Boom are not good enough for this level and your formatio is toally negative. What a bore it is to watch every home game Gary.

I know I will be told by some not to go then but i'm a season ticket holder and I will always follow our club. However the last 2 years have made my mind up. New manager please Steve.

Go and support Man Utd if you feel that way. Like it or not, this is as good as it gets for BCFC - 5th in the Championship, a squad that's light years ahead of the one we had 5 years ago and unbeaten at home for almost a year.

I travel 320 miles for each home game and if we grind out a 1-0 every week with the odd draw thrown in when we are off colour, that is fine by me.

We are not Barca and never will be. Fact.

Well_red

[pdgifford64]

I'd be happy with anyone who plays with wingers, width, 4-4-2 and doesn't have their son in the team. Paul Ince would get my vote, but I'm sure you'd have a very good opinion on that. But I take it your happy watching boring football week in week out PDG so don't worry about it. How stupid of me to put my view on a 'forum'

And having thought about it a bit more, we all have our opinions and rightly so....however in this particular issue there is a right one and a wrong one. If you polled every single City fan that goes through the turnstiles against Sheff Utd as to whether it`s time for SL to find a new manager i know full well which opinion will be the right one.

PDG

[Guest mindjuicer]

I enjoyed yesterday's game and the atmosphere and would gladly watch the exact same game today if the day was going to repeat itself!

Same.

First half was very tight marking by Sheff Wed but was quite entertaining nonetheless - though I think Wed were more entertaining. Lots of counter-attacks from both sides.

Second half had more build up play via Sno who managed to find space. Even had Sproule making some nice runs and at least one decent cross for those who are only entertained by wingers.

I thought Sheff Wed looked really good. Tudgay was awesome.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

This has to be the most boring, dull and unattractive football played at the gate in years. In fact its worse than last season. Of course I want promotion, but I'd rather us try and do it playing exciting football on the ground. At least at home matches anyway. I can understnd us plaing 3 centre backs away at the likes of Newcastle etc.... but GJ this is utter crap boring football. Your team selection for me is a joke, hence Paul Hartley on the bench. You can't see your son and Boom Boom are not good enough for this level and your formatio is toally negative. What a bore it is to watch every home game Gary.

I know I will be told by some not to go then but i'm a season ticket holder and I will always follow our club. However the last 2 years have made my mind up. New manager please Steve.

OK, How would you feel if every game was entertaining full of goals and we kept losing by the odd goal and we were relegated.

Happy I suppose, Chesterfield, Yeovil, Carlisle, Yeah new manager bring it on.

FFS

[gaz897]

All I'm saying is that I don't think he can take us any further. I like the players we have and the way the club has moved forward. I don't like GJ as a manager and thats my opinion. Why do so many people think that if we played an attacking brand of football with the players we have, we wouldn't be in the position we are by playing negative and defensive. I'm not saying I want to watch barca style football, I just think we would be even higher if we used our squad to at least attack at home.

[bcfcbs20]

All I'm saying is that I don't think he can take us any further. I like the players we have and the way the club has moved forward. I don't like GJ as a manager and thats my opinion. Why do so many people think that if we played an attacking brand of football with the players we have, we wouldn't be in the position we are by playing negative and defensive. I'm not saying I want to watch barca style football, I just think we would be even higher if we used our squad to at least attack at home.

give it some time chap we have 7 new players 6 who played yesterday were also playing a different system than last year so it will take time to gel once everyone is properly settled in and fully understands the tactics and new formation i guarantee we will see a much improved team but it takes time

[Riaz]

give it some time chap we have 7 new players 6 who played yesterday were also playing a different system than last year so it will take time to gel once everyone is properly settled in and fully understands the tactics and new formation i guarantee we will see a much improved team but it takes time

precisely, its only just november ffs!

Things are looking good, we are 5th and I dont think we've got anywhere near our best yet.......

[grifty]

All I'm saying is that I don't think he can take us any further.

Disagree with that!

3rd in the championship - 1st season back, better than anything we could of expected

10th in the championship - consolidation - maybe a bit of disappointment from the season before

5th in the championship - strengthened team - challenges with the big boys - good results against teams on form (Newcastle, Blackpool, Barnsley)

I think he's only just starting!

[exiledinwatford]

It seems that if anyone dares to criticise GJ then you are instantly labelled a moaner who wants him out. Since he's been here you would have to describe his tactical style as "cautious". Yesterday we had four very capable central midfielders strung across the middle - not one of them could actually pick the ball up and run at a defence - although apologies to the exellent Skuse who scored a couple of weeks ago but that was quite an exception to the rule.

I don't want to change the manager but I do want the manager to change a little. If we played with a more attacking style at home (particularly against teams who are having a tough time - Sheff Wed, Scunny, Peterboro) maybe last years 13 home draws might have been 7 wins and 6 defeats - that's 21 points as opposed to 13 by the way.

[richwwtk]

It seems that if anyone dares to criticise GJ then you are instantly labelled a moaner who wants him out.

But that's exactly what the OP is, he explicitly said so in his post!

[lager loud]

And you don't pay your money to be entertained when going to watch football - YOU PAY YOUR MONEY TO FOLLOW YOUR TEAM!!!

Cinema / concerts / theatre = entertainment.

Says who?

I think you'll find people decide for themselves why they spend their money. Plenty of fans don't care about the quality of the football, they just want the right result, or just go "to follow their team". But there are plenty of people who do care about the quality of what they get to see - and their money is as good as yours.

Like the OP, I've got a season ticket and will have one next year, and the year after, and for as long as I can. Unlike the OP, I don't want to see GJ leave any time soon. But I'd really like to see more entertainment than I'm getting at the moment. If we're still in the hunt for promotion with a dozen games to go, I won't care how we get our results, but mostly, I watch football to enjoy the game.

I can understand why more casual followers of City would choose not to spend £28+ to watch City at the moment, in spite of our league position, but prefer to spend that money on cinema/concerts/theatre/a night at the pub.

[grifty]

Says who?

I think you'll find people decide for themselves why they spend their money. Plenty of fans don't care about the quality of the football, they just want the right result, or just go "to follow their team". But there are plenty of people who do care about the quality of what they get to see - and their money is as good as yours.

Like the OP, I've got a season ticket and will have one next year, and the year after, and for as long as I can. Unlike the OP, I don't want to see GJ leave any time soon. But I'd really like to see more entertainment than I'm getting at the moment. If we're still in the hunt for promotion with a dozen games to go, I won't care how we get our results, but mostly, I watch football to enjoy the game.

I can understand why more casual followers of City would choose not to spend £28+ to watch City at the moment, in spite of our league position, but prefer to spend that money on cinema/concerts/theatre/a night at the pub.

Nail, head, hit, ow, well done.

I know everyone wants to see great football, but only a few understand properly that you cant do that overnight.

IMO GJ is using the hard-working route and adding flair players 1 by 1, eventually turmig us into brazil 1970's.

Give him 3 more years and see what happens!

[Guest lee63]

Can you imagine some people on here if that was the case....

I'd just be happy see us in the prem for a year or two.

[Guest AJ Sylvester]

I pay my money to see City get results. We're doing that. I'm happy.

If you want to be entertained go to the circus.

Last thought - the football really isn't that bad. It's on the deck for the most part. We've also scored 7 in the last 3 games so seriously....

[lager loud]

I pay my money to see City get results. We're doing that. I'm happy.

If you want to be entertained go to the circus.

Last thought - the football really isn't that bad. It's on the deck for the most part. We've also scored 7 in the last 3 games so seriously....

Another one who thinks it's OK to tell us how to spend our money. If you're only interested in the result, why not just watch it on teletext?

If everyone who didn't care about the quality of the football went to the circus instead, it would certainly make parking by the ground easier for those of you left. And it would give us a turnover that ensured a future in the lower reaches of the leagues.

Whether you like it or not, there are many people who do care about the quality of what they watch, and the club could use their money too. GJ and the team's job is to get results, of course, but if they do that with turgid football they'll get smaller crowds than if they entertain as well.

And No, it's not that bad at the moment - but it's not very exciting either, for the most part. I've no plans to go to the circus every other Saturday, but, as I stated in an earlier post, can understand why some would choose to do something else.

[Robbored]

I pay my money to see City get results. We're doing that. I'm happy.

City are not getting the right results. With squad we have City should turning over teams like Posh, Scunny and Wednesday - all of whom ae below us in the league

If you want to be entertained go to the circus.

Last thought - the football really isn't that bad. It's on the deck for the most part. We've also scored 7 in the last 3 games so seriously....

The football is that bad. Narrow, pedestrian and uninspiring. Yep, 7 goals in three games is ok but it should have been more.

[SimplyRed]

It is not a cardinal sin to want Gary Johnson's team to have more attacking flair and more ideas in front of goal.

It is not a cardinal sin to want the best available players to be playing in the team.

It is not a cardinal sin to want us to kill off teams and stop under-achieving our potential.

However, for some of us to criticise 'the chosen one' it is...

Nobody wants his head... yet... we just want him to take off his blinkers and play with some width, pace and entertainment.

You can point to our position in the league as much as you like, but all that says to me is that this league is poor - and we contribute to that with indifferent performances. The points spread in the top half of the table is just 7 points.

[Riaz]

It is not a cardinal sin to want Gary Johnson's team to have more attacking flair and more ideas in front of goal.

It is not a cardinal sin to want the best available players to be playing in the team.

It is not a cardinal sin to want us to kill off teams and stop under-achieving our potential.

However, for some of us to criticise 'the chosen one' it is...

Nobody wants his head... yet... we just want him to take off his blinkers and play with some width, pace and entertainment.

You can point to our position in the league as much as you like, but all that says to me is that this league is poor - and we contribute to that with indifferent performances. The points spread in the top half of the table is just 7 points.

No its not criticism that I have a problem with, its calling for the managers head or as robbored does, have a field day when we dont win........

Some of our less than intelligent posters HAVE called for his head........

[Robbored]

No its not criticism that I have a problem with, its calling for the managers head or as robbored does, have a field day when we dont win........

Some of our less than intelligent posters HAVE called for his head........

You can say I'm having a field day all you you like but the fact is I get frustrated with Johnson making the same mistakes again and again. For ages now several posters, me included have bemoaned how dull the playing style is and how Johnson isn't getting the best out of the strongest squad (which he has built) we've had for decades.That in a nutshell is what my critism is all about.

[Riaz]

You can say I'm a field all you you like but the fact is I get frustrated with Johnson making the same mistakes again and again. For ages now several posters, me included have bemoaned how dull the playing style is and how Johnson isn't getting the best out of the strongest squad (which he has built) we've had for decades.That in a nutshell is what my critism is all about.

Really? you've never said.....

[Guest AJ Sylvester]

Another one who thinks it's OK to tell us how to spend our money. If you're only interested in the result, why not just watch it on teletext?

If everyone who didn't care about the quality of the football went to the circus instead, it would certainly make parking by the ground easier for those of you left. And it would give us a turnover that ensured a future in the lower reaches of the leagues.

Whether you like it or not, there are many people who do care about the quality of what they watch, and the club could use their money too. GJ and the team's job is to get results, of course, but if they do that with turgid football they'll get smaller crowds than if they entertain as well.

And No, it's not that bad at the moment - but it's not very exciting either, for the most part. I've no plans to go to the circus every other Saturday, but, as I stated in an earlier post, can understand why some would choose to do something else.

OMG what an amazingly hypocritical post. Just amazing.

The first post is having a rant telling everyone how we should change the style of play because the poster isn't very happy with it.

I turn round to say that in my opinion it isn't that bad and that I'm more interested in results and that's ME telling others how to spend their money!?! Err....

[Guest AJ Sylvester]

City are not getting the right results. With squad we have City should turning over teams like Posh, Scunny and Wednesday - all of whom ae below us in the league

What kind of logic is that? I admit that we should've beaten those teams really but just because they're below you in the league you can't use that to criticise the team. By that token we could be top of the Premier League and you'd be criticising us if we drew at home to Man United.

As a club we have no right to beat any team and are actually a "smaller club" than Boro, Forest, Sheff Wed, Sheff Utd, Derby, Reading and Ipswich - all of who we are ahead of. No doubt we also have smaller budgets than many others such as QPR.

The football is that bad. Narrow, pedestrian and uninspiring. Yep, 7 goals in three games is ok but it should have been more.

Every club in the world could say "it should have been more". If we'd created hundreds of chances and scored 7 you'd probably be moaning poor finishing. You wouldn't really expect us to score more than 2.3 every game would you!?!

[Robbored]

Every club in the world could say "it should have been more". If we'd created hundreds of chances and scored 7 you'd probably be moaning poor finishing. You wouldn't really expect us to score more than 2.3 every game would you!?!

City haven't been creating many chances, in fact only Maynards superb finishing has kept the 'goals for' column looking as it does. City have scored 18 goals in 15 games thats 1.2 goals per game. Consider that 7 of those 18 have come in the last 3 games and it kinda proves the point.

[Guest AJ Sylvester]

City haven't been creating many chances, in fact only Maynards superb finishing has kept the 'goals for' column looking as it does. City have scored 18 goals in 15 games thats 1.2 goals per game. Consider that 7 of those 18 have come in the last 3 games and it kinda proves the point.

Yes - that our goals per game ratio has gone up a long way in the last 3 games.

[Pezo]

Sorry but you pay your money to watch a game of football - which you got, anything else is just a bonus.

You do realize there is another team on this pitch when we play that doesn't want us to play well and does everything in there power to stop us from playing well?

[Riaz]

Sorry but you pay your money to watch a game of football - which you got, anything else is just a bonus.

You do realize there is another team on this pitch when we play that doesn't want us to play well and does everything in there power to stop us from playing well?

That is a quality quote. Could not have put it better myself.

[downendcity]

We don't need a new manager but we definitely need new ideas coming into the club especially in the tactical department. I would suggest bringing in a director of football but I feel this would not go down well with Gj's ego and management team. Plus there wouldn't be anyone realistically available to fill such a roll at the present time.

We don't need a new manager, but we do need a different sense of reality on here sometimes.

I live 3 hours + away from Bristol. I won't bore you with my situation, but suffice it to say that a combination of personal and financial circumstances mean that I have only been able to get to a handful of away games in the last 18 months and none so far this season - I hoped to get to Barnsley but couldn't afford to go.

I stood on the East End as a boy almost every week and when I played senior football, still went to AG every week we didn't have a game and for midweek games. I would give anything to be in a position to be at AG every other week, just to see us play. I was at Ipswich a couple of seasons ago and experienced the worst result I have ever seen, but it was a great afternoon when our away support got better as the score got worse! The same at Sheff U last season - we were lucky to escape a 6-0 that day as well , but I had looked forward to the game for ages and still enjoyed following my team.

In the bigger scheme of things, and in the wider football world we are relatively insignificant among the so called big clubs/ex prem clubs now in the championship, especially in terms of the financial clout some of those clubs have in comparison. Despite this, we are in there competing, and competing well. I suspect 20,000+ fans at Roy Keane's Ipswich would happily swap places with us right now - as would 20000+ fans at Norwich and Leeds!

Yes, there are things that could be better. We could play a more atacking style, score more goals and be more entertaining, but I remember Danny W missing out on promotion when we were the top scoring team in the whole of the football league and he was criticised because we leaked too many gaols and this, they said cost promoption because we drewor lost games we should have won . Danny turned it around , gave us the league's best defence the next season but we missed promotion becasue, they said, we failed to score enough goals and this meant we drew to many games we should have won. Sometimes a manager can be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!

I understand that fans will want a return on their investment in a season ticket, in terms of entertainment. However, surely we all understand that our contract with the club, as fans, is totally one sided. The only guarantee is that the club receive our support through thick and thin. In returnthe coub guarantee uis nothign at all. There is no guarantee of any certainty; whether that be results, entertainment or playing at the highest possible level, or even that the manager will pick the players we all think is best for his position! No, the certainty we have is that following our club will result in more disappointments than sucesses, and the absolute certainty that we will be let down on many more occassions than we will ever let the club down.

If we wanted certainty and any sort of guarantees then we would all be trecking to Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, Emirates or Anfield every other Saturday/Sunday/Monday- OK perhaps not Anfieldat the moment!. But surely, supporting a club like Bristol City is all about accepting that most fo the time it will be frustrating, disappiointing and occassionally awful, because when the successes do come along they are all the sweeter for what we have suffered along the way.

Perhaps sometimes we are to quick to bemoan what we don't have, instead of being more than grateful for what we do have.

[pdgifford64]

You can say I'm having a field day all you you like but the fact is I get frustrated with Johnson making the same mistakes again and again. For ages now several posters, me included have bemoaned how dull the playing style is and how Johnson isn't getting the best out of the strongest squad (which he has built) we've had for decades.That in a nutshell is what my critism is all about.

Your right, for ages you been moaning. If only you could put as much energy into the praise you begrudgingly give when we get a result as you do when we don`t your constant dirge might be more palatable.

PDG

[Martyn Hocking]

We don't need a new manager, but we do need a different sense of reality on here sometimes.

I live 3 hours + away from Bristol. I won't bore you with my situation, but suffice it to say that a combination of personal and financial circumstances mean that I have only been able to get to a handful of away games in the last 18 months and none so far this season - I hoped to get to Barnsley but couldn't afford to go.

I stood on the East End as a boy almost every week and when I played senior football, still went to AG every week we didn't have a game and for midweek games. I would give anything to be in a position to be at AG every other week, just to see us play. I was at Ipswich a couple of seasons ago and experienced the worst result I have ever seen, but it was a great afternoon when our away support got better as the score got worse! The same at Sheff U last season - we were lucky to escape a 6-0 that day as well , but I had looked forward to the game for ages and still enjoyed following my team.

In the bigger scheme of things, and in the wider football world we are relatively insignificant among the so called big clubs/ex prem clubs now in the championship, especially in terms of the financial clout some of those clubs have in comparison. Despite this, we are in there competing, and competing well. I suspect 20,000+ fans at Roy Keane's Ipswich would happily swap places with us right now - as would 20000+ fans at Norwich and Leeds!

Yes, there are things that could be better. We could play a more atacking style, score more goals and be more entertaining, but I remember Danny W missing out on promotion when we were the top scoring team in the whole of the football league and he was criticised because we leaked too many gaols and this, they said cost promoption because we drewor lost games we should have won . Danny turned it around , gave us the league's best defence the next season but we missed promotion becasue, they said, we failed to score enough goals and this meant we drew to many games we should have won. Sometimes a manager can be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!

I understand that fans will want a return on their investment in a season ticket, in terms of entertainment. However, surely we all understand that our contract with the club, as fans, is totally one sided. The only guarantee is that the club receive our support through thick and thin. In returnthe coub guarantee uis nothign at all. There is no guarantee of any certainty; whether that be results, entertainment or playing at the highest possible level, or even that the manager will pick the players we all think is best for his position! No, the certainty we have is that following our club will result in more disappointments than sucesses, and the absolute certainty that we will be let down on many more occassions than we will ever let the club down.

If we wanted certainty and any sort of guarantees then we would all be trecking to Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, Emirates or Anfield every other Saturday/Sunday/Monday- OK perhaps not Anfieldat the moment!. But surely, supporting a club like Bristol City is all about accepting that most fo the time it will be frustrating, disappiointing and occassionally awful, because when the successes do come along they are all the sweeter for what we have suffered along the way.

Perhaps sometimes we are to quick to bemoan what we don't have, instead of being more than grateful for what we do have.

Quality, quality post. Perfectly sums up the reality of following BCFC. Like you, I have a long way to travel to see the team, and like you I do not expect anything in return, other than the pleasure of seeing familiar faces and places. I'm fortunate that I can afford to go as often as I like. Good luck to you - we need more genuine supporters like you at AG.

Well_red

[Riaz]

Quality, quality post. Perfectly sums up the reality of following BCFC. Like you, I have a long way to travel to see the team, and like you I do not expect anything in return, other than the pleasure of seeing familiar faces and places. I'm fortunate that I can afford to go as often as I like. Good luck to you - we need more genuine supporters like you at AG.

Well_red

+ 1.

[pdgifford64]

Quality, quality post. Perfectly sums up the reality of following BCFC. Like you, I have a long way to travel to see the team, and like you I do not expect anything in return, other than the pleasure of seeing familiar faces and places. I'm fortunate that I can afford to go as often as I like. Good luck to you - we need more genuine supporters like you at AG.

Well_red

+2

PDG

[downendcity]

We don't need a new manager, but we do need a different sense of reality on here sometimes.

I live 3 hours + away from Bristol. I won't bore you with my situation, but suffice it to say that a combination of personal and financial circumstances mean that I have only been able to get to a handful of away games in the last 18 months and none so far this season - I hoped to get to Barnsley but couldn't afford to go.

I stood on the East End as a boy almost every week and when I played senior football, still went to AG every week we didn't have a game and for midweek games. I would give anything to be in a position to be at AG every other week, just to see us play. I was at Ipswich a couple of seasons ago and experienced the worst result I have ever seen, but it was a great afternoon when our away support got better as the score got worse! The same at Sheff U last season - we were lucky to escape a 6-0 that day as well , but I had looked forward to the game for ages and still enjoyed following my team.

In the bigger scheme of things, and in the wider football world we are relatively insignificant among the so called big clubs/ex prem clubs now in the championship, especially in terms of the financial clout some of those clubs have in comparison. Despite this, we are in there competing, and competing well. I suspect 20,000+ fans at Roy Keane's Ipswich would happily swap places with us right now - as would 20000+ fans at Norwich and Leeds!

Yes, there are things that could be better. We could play a more atacking style, score more goals and be more entertaining, but I remember Danny W missing out on promotion when we were the top scoring team in the whole of the football league and he was criticised because we leaked too many gaols and this, they said cost promoption because we drewor lost games we should have won . Danny turned it around , gave us the league's best defence the next season but we missed promotion becasue, they said, we failed to score enough goals and this meant we drew to many games we should have won. Sometimes a manager can be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!

I understand that fans will want a return on their investment in a season ticket, in terms of entertainment. However, surely we all understand that our contract with the club, as fans, is totally one sided. The only guarantee is that the club receive our support through thick and thin. In returnthe coub guarantee uis nothign at all. There is no guarantee of any certainty; whether that be results, entertainment or playing at the highest possible level, or even that the manager will pick the players we all think is best for his position! No, the certainty we have is that following our club will result in more disappointments than sucesses, and the absolute certainty that we will be let down on many more occassions than we will ever let the club down.

If we wanted certainty and any sort of guarantees then we would all be trecking to Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, Emirates or Anfield every other Saturday/Sunday/Monday- OK perhaps not Anfieldat the moment!. But surely, supporting a club like Bristol City is all about accepting that most fo the time it will be frustrating, disappiointing and occassionally awful, because when the successes do come along they are all the sweeter for what we have suffered along the way.

Perhaps sometimes we are to quick to bemoan what we don't have, instead of being more than grateful for what we do have.

I meant to add, that I am pretty sure that everyone who posts on here is , at heart, a true city fan. For all the moans and groans, if push came to shove everyone of them ( Robbored, Ashtonyate et al) would be down at AG supporting the team.

On a training course, a long, long time ago, we had a role play excercise where the role play was done in front of everyone and at the end the observers had to provide feedback. Everybody chipped in and the feedback sessions lasted for ages. After 2/3 role plays, the trainer then instructed he observers to provide only positive feedback about what went well. Very few observers contributed feedback this time, and the feedback lasted only a few minutes.

The lessons thias taught is that it is much easier to find things to criticise, but much harder to find things to praise. In that respect, this forum merely mirrors human nature. The other thing that came out was that different people will have a different perspective on the same thing. We each have our own perspective , which might be completely different from someone else's, but doesn't mean we are right and they are wrong, or visa versa. There are too many posters who have an entrenched position on a particular issue, and almost appear willing to foght to the death any one who opposes their view.

You only have to look at threads starting; "pick you best team" where we get back as many different selections and formations as there are posts. Gj has opnly one selection, so how can he please all the people all the time? He can't , so somewhere along the line, we all perhaps have to trust that his judgement is based on greater knowledge and experience than all of ours together. Also, we might all have our own opinions as to the way we should play, what formation or what players are in the team, but GJ is the only one who can lose his job if he gets it wrong.

[gaz897]

Like I said I will continue to renew my season ticket no matter what league we're in. I've watched city for 25 years and this is the most boring unattractive football we've ever played. Why is it wrong to try and get the same results playing an attacking style of football at home. GJ hasn't done this for the last 2 years. Yes we've been unbeaten at home for a long time but how many draws and apart from PLymouth how many times do we score more than once? I'd rather we won 2 games at home and lost 2 TRYING rather than draw 6 one all.

[windmillhillred]

Like I said I will continue to renew my season ticket no matter what league we're in. I've watched city for 25 years and this is the most boring unattractive football we've ever played. Why is it wrong to try and get the same results playing an attacking style of football at home. GJ hasn't done this for the last 2 years. Yes we've been unbeaten at home for a long time but how many draws and apart from PLymouth how many times do we score more than once? I'd rather we won 2 games at home and lost 2 TRYING rather than draw 6 one all.

The point is though, that we aren't drawing that many games at home. Two points a game at average this season at home - if we get 52 points at home it doesn't take a genius to work out that a few decent results away will get us a play off place.

[gaz897]

The point is though, that we aren't drawing that many games at home. Two points a game at average this season at home - if we get 52 points at home it doesn't take a genius to work out that a few decent results away will get us a play off place.

I know what your saying and maybe I am hasty calling for the managers head. But it doesn't take a genius (or RIAZ) to figure out that the style of football we're playing is tinkered with 3 or 4 times a match is always a bad choice to start the game. It just never works, the fans inside the ground can see it. Thats why you get fans signaling 4-4-2 and chanting attack, attack attack at GJ!! I understand why we would set the team out that way away from home against a good team like up at Newcastle (easily my favourite game of the season and it was 0-0) but its too negative and defensive and we have really good players who I think should be destroying the like of Peterbrough etc.

[red man dan]

SACK EVERYONE, and BURN DOWN ASHTON GATE. Then we wont have to put up with this god awful and evil football in Bristol anymore. We can all go and support Rovers in league one, or pick any from Weston Super Mare, Bath City, Yate Town ETC or travel to Swindon Town or Yeovil(also in league one), or maybe a little further to Southampton(cuz they are doing super)....................

Some people

Flags up from those who are gratefull for what we have here at the moment (top 6 and trips to Newacastle, West Brom, Boro) 'ALL' of our west country 'rivals' can only dream of such things.....

Yes, it might be nice to see some 'Brazil' type play now and again, but it could be MUCH MUCH worse, we could be playing this style of play(which imo opinion isnt horrific or 'pulis' like in league 1/2 at Aldershot or Wrexham. Wanting to play more attractive football is fine, but suggesting we sack a manager, who is having us perform at the top end of this division, to achieve it is simply madness.

As for the team selection/tactics, it could be that given all the new arrivals that GJ hasnt as yet fully worked out what is best, and if so, being 5th while that is sussed out is a pretty good return. Lets just say Roy Keane is taking a while to work his out, and look how many points they have got in the process. Lets have some perspective.

[windmillhillred]

It just never works

The facts suggest otherwise.

[Robbored]

SACK EVERYONE, and BURN DOWN ASHTON GATE. Then we wont have to put up with this god awful and evil football in Bristol anymore. We can all go and support Rovers in league one, or pick any from Weston Super Mare, Bath City, Yate Town ETC or travel to Swindon Town or Yeovil(also in league one), or maybe a little further to Southampton(cuz they are doing super)....................

Some people

You seem to have a problem with quite a number of posters who pretty much agree that whilst City are in 5th place the stye of play so far ain't been pretty to watch. In fact its been dire. Low on entertainment and goal mouth action to name just two complaints.

Its bit narrow minded and disrespectfull of you to advise these posters that they should go and watch some non-league team or Southampton?!

Just accept that not everyone sees it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean do you think the footballs been attractive to watch this season?

[windmillhillred]

You seem to have a problem with quite a number of posters who pretty much agree that whilst City are in 5th place the stye of play so far ain't been pretty to watch. In fact its been dire. Low on entertainment and goal mouth action to name just two complaints.

Its bit narrow minded and disrespectfull of you to advise these posters that they should go and watch some non-league team or Southampton?!

Just accept that not everyone sees it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean do you think the footballs been attractive to watch this season?

I think it's just that some of us can;t understand how five wins out of eight is dire in anyone's book.

I enjoy it when we win. If I want entertaining football, and I do, I watch Spanish football. It's fantastic, but it's much, much, much more entertaining to see City scrape a 1-0 win in a turgid game.

[pdgifford64]

You seem to have a problem with quite a number of posters who pretty much agree that whilst City are in 5th place the stye of play so far ain't been pretty to watch. In fact its been dire. Low on entertainment and goal mouth action to name just two complaints.

Its bit narrow minded and disrespectfull of you to advise these posters that they should go and watch some non-league team or Southampton?!

Just accept that not everyone sees it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean do you think the footballs been attractive to watch this season?

Just accept that not many City fans see it your way and try to see the other point of view. I mean, the football hasn`t been half as bad as many would have you believe.

I`ve come to the conclusion that we are poles apart in our interpretations of what we see at a footie match, it`s actually boring me now so i vow to do my best to ignore these posts from this moment on.

PDG

[Robbored]

I think it's just that some of us can;t understand how five wins out of eight is dire in anyone's book.

I enjoy it when we win. If I want entertaining football, and I do, I watch Spanish football. It's fantastic, but it's much, much, much more entertaining to see City scrape a 1-0 win in a turgid game.

Fair play to you for explaining in a civil manner why you can't understand why some posters complain about the style of football that we are served at AG most weeks. We all enjoy it when we win but enjoy it much more when City have put a show, played well and beaten the other lot through better footballing skills and tactics.

Sometimes when leaving AG after a 1-0 win I feel relieved that City have 3 points but also can't help thinking that we either a) were hanging on. b) got some lucky breaks and the rub of the green. c) worrying about when the wheels will come off.

I can't remember the last time I left AG feeling that I'd witnessed a cracking performance. A half maybe - QPR for example.

[Guest Eastend Fan]

This forum is CRAZY

I dont understand how you want GJ out. Ok that your opinion and i'm not going to try and change that, but after all he has done for us I really think he is a great manager. Ok football might not be great at the moment, but IMP thats down to the players and not GJ. Could you get more attacking than Maynard, Haynes n Saborio (Soz if i spelt it wrong) up front all at once. Maybe its the players not working together or getting the balls through. However were still 5th in the table and I am very happy with the team and club atm. Its certainly keeping me at the Gate

[Riaz]

Fair play to you for explaining in a civil manner why you can't understand why some posters complain about the style of football that we are served at AG most weeks. We all enjoy it when we win but enjoy it much more when City have put a show, played well and beaten the other lot through better footballing skills and tactics.

Sometimes when leaving AG after a 1-0 win I feel relieved that City have 3 points but also can't help thinking that we either a) were hanging on. b) got some lucky breaks and the rub of the green. c) worrying about when the wheels will come off.

I can't remember the last time I left AG feeling that I'd witnessed a cracking performance. A half maybe - QPR for example.

Let me get this right, you want us to win, and play brilliant football? Do you want someone to wipe your ass for you in the toilet too? a topless girl (or man :noexpression: ) to greet you when you get to the ground? anything else?

[windmillhillred]

Fair play to you for explaining in a civil manner why you can't understand why some posters complain about the style of football that we are served at AG most weeks. We all enjoy it when we win but enjoy it much more when City have put a show, played well and beaten the other lot through better footballing skills and tactics.

Sometimes when leaving AG after a 1-0 win I feel relieved that City have 3 points but also can't help thinking that we either a) were hanging on. b) got some lucky breaks and the rub of the green. c) worrying about when the wheels will come off.

I can't remember the last time I left AG feeling that I'd witnessed a cracking performance. A half maybe - QPR for example.

Yes, I don't disagree that we've been short of brilliant performances. The fact that we've not quite clicked yet, but still are fifth, is mighty impressive in my eyes.

Watwching your football team should surely be at times fantastic, at times awful and at times horrendously tense. But I can honestly say I've never been 'bored' at a City game. Frustrated, angry, upset certainly, but never bored.