havanatopia Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 my leaving was clearly the catalyst!!! glad the phone call from Fidel finally made them act... he put the fear of god in them. bout time. well done. finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirscrumpton Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 So who are the Councillors who voted against (you know the weasel with the grey shirt/glasses and the fat bloke with sideburns - who do they represent???) http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/content/Coun...p;CouncillorId= The sideburned chap is a Tory i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 sorry to be a pain and keep this thread going but what will the implications of not getting planning for southlands part, southlands is the housing bit that will pull in some 5-6Mill towards the cost. The thing is as someone just said - watch them give planning to someone else in 12 months time. no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Woop woop we seem to have a stadium. Can someone tell this dumb barsteward what the southland plans were and why they were significant ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somerset_Sam Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 hang on, can I recommend we discuss it first They should be more like me and my missus, I tell her I am going out, she says she doesnt want me to, i tell her it is not up for debate, end of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 So who are the Councillors who voted against (you know the weasel with the grey shirt/glasses and the fat bloke with sideburns - who do they represent???) Good question. No matter your politics or your apathy make sure you vote those two ***** out at the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza247 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 So who are the Councillors who voted against (you know the weasel with the grey shirt/glasses and the fat bloke with sideburns - who do they represent???) Bristol R*vers? Swindle? Their own egos? Always like to be different and stand out from the crowd?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 sorry to be a pain and keep this thread going but what will the implications of not getting planning for southlands part, I think it means that we have to find a few million quid to make up the shortfall in funding the development (assuming Sainsbury's goes through of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zider_head Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 So have I started the biggest and most viewed thread in the history of otib ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pidge Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 BBC Points West - BCFC have just won the bid to build a new stadium!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Well said that man! Was that 7-2 to us? When did we last score 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aller g Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 st albans? or was that 7-1 im over the moon!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 sorry to be a pain and keep this thread going but what will the implications of not getting planning for southlands part, That could well kill the deal. Also, I don't think that the Sainsburys planning decison is going to be taken for months yet. If that's a no then I imagine everything will collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bs11red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Southlands is another battle which will probably be won in another way. Hopefully will be passed on appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Can somebody please tell me what expense the tax payers are meant to pay? (Section 106) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man In Black Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 hang on, can I recommend we discuss it first What was the whole "we need someone to second it to move to a vote", someone seconds it and then they go on to waffle for another five minutes? Obviously we're all missing out on the barrel of laughs that being a councillor provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 All that chit chat and argument about transport and then voted 7 to 2 in favour in about 10 seconds flat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crusader Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 brilliant - are you watching sags sexton and lansdown - well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red badger Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 in truth - after all that - I'm not entirely sure what was agreed... ...which says it all. John Bees - Kingsweston - if you can re-elect him next year please do so - only one who seemed to have any sense... I don't live in Bristol - if I did I'd have a quick flick through the list of councillors on wikipedia and make a few notes on who not to vote for!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 We won 7-1 at Bournemouth Reserves I was there, actually the 1 of 2 city fans there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooter Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 When did we last score 7? I remember us winning 7-0 Away at Heybridge Swifts in the FA Cup a few years ago... I wouldn't have a clue about a 7-2 Result though! Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 That could well kill the deal. Also, I don't think that the Sainsburys planning decison is going to be taken for months yet. If that's a no then I imagine everything will collapse. It won't kill the deal if Sainsbury's is passed I wouldn't have thought. I can't believe that the club will stop the building of a £65 million stadium due to a funding shortfall of circa £5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 They should be more like me and my missus, I tell her I am going out, she says she doesnt want me to, i tell her it is not up for debate, end of classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud55 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hopefully will be passed on appeal. you'd hope, god knows why they rejected it, they along with most other local authorities have been told by the govt that they have to build x amount of houses, so why they have just rejected a scheme which gives them a sizable chunk of that is beyond me, as they will probably just **** around and end up being forced to build them and ending up having to dump them anywhere and ballsing it all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Southlands will happen on appeal. Does not the Planning Committee realise that a housing provision tsunami is going to hit them as is set out in the Regional Strategy? If the City Council try to protect a couple of fields on the edge of the urban area they've no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 and a gash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 in truth - after all that - I'm not entirely sure what was agreed... ...which says it all. John Bees - Kingsweston - if you can re-elect him next year please do so - only one who seemed to have any sense... I don't live in Bristol - if I did I'd have a quick flick through the list of councillors on wikipedia and make a few notes on who not to vote for!!! http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/content/Coun...CouncillorId=68 fatty who voted no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Fair enough bye bye AG Hello Ashton G8 all for one and one for all; So to put it in simple terms, does this mean that no building work can begin until all conditions are met, ie at least six months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The club can appeal and even take it to government, but they would need a good argument, and not sure financial will be enough. Turn it into an organic farm... or otter farm seeing as there are meant to be so mnay living on that old rubbish tip I guess that helping to meet the government housing targets would be the argument? I think that BCFC/ SL will still own the land though, so the council couldnt give permission to a developer without acquiring it from BCFC? I am sure the sainsburys application will be fine, but I am slightly concerned at what point SL will pull the plug because of the cost/ too many hoops to be bothered with? SMS just received confirms that Sexstone is very pleased, so presumably the club will still proceed without the housing approval? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Can somebody please tell me what expense the tax payers are meant to pay? (Section 106) Section 106 is a form of "compensation" that the club has to provide in return for getting the development passed. Examples included improved infrastructure, childs play facilities or maybe even Bat Roosts and Otter Houses!! I think Adam Baker got the wrong end of the stick unless the argument is that there are not enough S106 items being imposed on the club (therefore being footed by the taxpayer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_b Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Club text: "Colin Sexstone says he is "very pleased" after seeing the Council deliver a "minded to approve" decision on the officers report for the new stadium." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/content/Coun...CouncillorId=68 fatty who voted no Surprise, surprise, he's a Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 YEEE HAAAR but what a bunch of useless clowns they all are. I seriously thought it was going against us, it seemed apart from Cllr Bees all the noise came from the Green Lobby . If thats how democracy works we seriously need a dictatorship in this country to make things happen . Having watched that all night I want to emigrate . I could be living in Spain by the time the Stadiums built ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red badger Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/content/Coun...p;CouncillorId= The sideburned chap is a Tory i believe. and was the other vote against the Green chap - Bolton from Southville? Edited November 4, 2009 by red badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanhamreds Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 So to put it in simple terms, does this mean that no building work can begin until all conditions are met, ie at least six months? they don't start building the stadium until Q2 next year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I thought he put a pro speach in, towards the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Is it Weston - from Henbury? and was the other vote against the Green chap - Bolton from Southville? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 hang on, can I recommend we discuss it first Surely we need to have a discussion about whether this needs to be discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) I thought fatty side burn voted yes, but hairy growler and grey shirt nob voted no? Edited November 4, 2009 by Moomin Liberation Army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man In Black Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Now we have to try and work out how away fans will find the ground. Anyone remember which one said that? I think it was a blonde one. How did she vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Wardy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) So we have it then?? Or have we got to wait until 6 months ?? We've got it. With a list of planning conditions as long as your arm to come no doubt, just to keep the spotlight diverted. That truly was an incredible experience, a real eye-opener and I promise not to take local politics so lightly from now on. I'm dumbfounded by the Councillors (Majority) incapability to hold an intelligent and informed debate. It became surreal, expected an objection on the Grounds of the proposed site being home to a lesser spotted Uncle Roger. Edited November 4, 2009 by Red Wardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red badger Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 No. know who it was then? Certainly spent a long time raising objections for a chap minded to approve the proposal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I thought he put a pro speach in, towards the end? So did I. Do we know for sure who the two against were, so as to cross them off SL's christmas card list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claverham_Red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Phew! Got there just about. Can't believe I watched virtually all of that. Cheers Adam Baker for the interesting updates! Ha. Excellent work by all. Up The City! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'm going to make the chat logs as a download. There were some of the most hillarious comments I've ever read during that 4 hour session. Mind you it'll be parental guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red badger Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 From Adam Baker's very good updates: "There are a lot of contensious issues but overall we're very pleased," says Colin. "We'll have to sit down and discuss further what to do with regards to the Southlands site." Both Colin and Gary praise the fans who stuck around the support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'm going to make the chat logs as a download. There were some of the most hillarious comments I've ever read during that 4 hour session. Mind you it'll be parental guidance. Would be funny to see them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GUERNSEY TAFFY RED Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Are the two who voted against the two who are with the wildlife trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Wardy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) Twas Joe 90 and the black haired swamp thing. Anybody else notice Joe 90 reluctantly put his hand in the air after the seven "for" hands were shown? Edited November 4, 2009 by Red Wardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I thought he put a pro speach in, towards the end? I think he did too.. I am sure it was the two libdems who voted NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizleCiderArmy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Surely we need to have a discussion about whether this needs to be discussed. Then we need to debate about the discussion that needs to be discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Whooooossshhhh Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I think he did too.. I am sure it was the two libdems who voted NO. I think it was Grey Shirt & the Hippy Bint that went against commmon sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bs11red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Think you've got the wrong man there ... I thought it was 6 in favour 2 against and one abstention from the big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 It was the two liberals - Hance and Rayner - who objected to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Are the two who voted against the two who are with the wildlife trust Is this one of them? http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/content/Coun...CouncillorId=86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 ones got to be that ginger haired gobby woman and either the tory from Henbury or the grey shirted glass wearing midget Bespectacled dwarf and long dark haired woman looked the 2 who voted against to me, not the Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanhamreds Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 comments like it looks like a brothel at night with all those red lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Grey shirt voted no, along with the dark haired witch. She should be burnt at the stake like all witches, and he should be hung for treason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Wardy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Think you've got the wrong man there ... Oh God, you are right. Apologies, it was Joe 90 and Swampy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 When I worked with the Bristol Planning Department most were rampant reds. Obviously gone seriously downhill since the late 70's with only two officers declaring an interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanhamreds Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I've seen worse people on a jury believe me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Anyways that was only round one of about 4 at least to get this project of the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 That truly was an incredible experience, a real eye-opener and I promise not to take local politics so lightly from now on. I'm dumbfounded by the Councillors (Majority) incapability to hold an intelligent and informed debate. Believe me in my experience, the lack of coherent debate and inability to grasp what is going on is truly mind-numbing in the majority of elected members in council meetings. As I mentioned in an earlier post I used to work for BCC and have attended many committee meetings where these muppets can spend hours deciding on something like whether it is ok or not for council tenants to have pets in their flats and if so what sort of pet. And at the same meeting spend just a few moments reaching a decision on complicated issues regarding a major scheme with huge cost implications. Breath-taking. At least they got the one tonight right! Eventually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_b Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Did Rayner object to the design of the stadium? When he works as an architect for people who have designed crap like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizleCiderArmy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Did Rayner object to the design of the stadium? When he works as an architect for people who have designed crap like: If the Atyeo was blue thats what you would have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Lets not forget about some of the pricesless comments by our elected councillors 'Away fans may get lost when we relocate' 'Season Ticket holders don't visit the official city website' 'What about the hedgerows' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Wardy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 southlands is the housing bit that will pull in some 5-6Mill towards the cost. The thing is as someone just said - watch them give planning to someone else in 12 months time. no idea. City can re-apply with a fresh application for the housing. Thinking about it, I might buy a parcel from the Club and apply for a Pad and a Half overlooking Lansdown's Long Ashton Droopy Otter Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Wardy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I am considering taking a dump. Can we have a show of hands? PASSED 1-0. Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhyde Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Lets not forget about some of the pricesless comments by our elected councillors 'Away fans may get lost when we relocate' 'Season Ticket holders don't visit the official city website' 'What about the hedgerows' What have the Romans ever done for us? What about the hedgerows? It's round one and we've hit a bit of an obstacle, but when the people know sod all the were always likely to go with the officers report. wouldn't you? Super news all the same. And yes councillors are that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Just wanna say to ... Dolly Marie, Miles Hendy, Sexton, GJ etc & all who spoke up supporting the proposal - well done!! Despite what was obviously a nervewracking experience (even for the pro's) you all came across loud, clear & focussed... unlike that bumbling embarassment of so called public representatives who for the most part did nothing to enhance our faith in local government - I've witnessed more common sense on the Jeremy Kyle Show, where's Judge Judy when she's needed?... still after all the mind numbing questions (mostly bordering on the stupidi) at least somehow we eventually got 90% of what we wanted from the evenings events when the vote finally took place.. 7 - 2 in favour! Well Done Everyone - congratulations to Steve Landown & BCFC... COME ON YOU REDS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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