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Monkeh Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 we try to sing but very few join in until there is fight shown on the pitch, tbh I haven't heard much from the EE this season ether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest betty is a legend Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 we try to sing but very few join in until there is fight shown on the pitch, tbh I haven't heard much from the EE this season ether Well when teams like Leeds get 2000 tickets, it's 2000 fans singing against 1000-1200?? city fans, whilst the remaining 15,000 are hush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskay Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 we try to sing but very few join in until there is fight shown on the pitch, tbh I haven't heard much from the EE this season ether EE is usually loud for the first 10 mins or so. The boys come out - play well for 10 mins and then the switch goes off, I am not sure why they cannot play like that for 90 mins. Gradually the atmosphere drops as does the quality on the pitch (the atmosphere lags the football so don't blame the shite football on lack of support!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 EE is usually loud for the first 10 mins or so. The boys come out - play well for 10 mins and then the switch goes off, I am not sure why they cannot play like that for 90 mins. Gradually the atmosphere drops as does the quality on the pitch (the atmosphere lags the football so don't blame the shite football on lack of support!!). Just a thought on this maybe the better the support the better the footie c'mon the reds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 As I've said a million times, it's something about football in this country in the most part (though Chelsea's support was for the most part at Fulham pretty vocal last night)) Is it cultural differences, is it demographics, standing or prices? Regardless what i would very much like to see would be all 4 stands with a substantial number stood up come the next home game- singing and chanting! Or at least the ones behind the goals if nothing much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskay Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 As I've said a million times, it's something about football in this country in the most part (though Chelsea's support was for the most part at Fulham pretty vocal last night)) Is it cultural differences, is it demographics, standing or prices? Regardless what i would very much like to see would be all 4 stands with a substantial number stood up come the next home game- singing and chanting! Or at least the ones behind the goals if nothing much else. I think you have hit the nail on the head. For some reason sitting down seems to mute crowds. When we rocked Reading a few seasons ago we did not sit the whole game and the atmosphere was amazing, the last couple of visits most have been sat down and the atmosphere has been crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Well when teams like Leeds get 2000 tickets, it's 2000 fans singing against 1000-1200?? city fans, whilst the remaining 15,000 are hush Not correct, A and B Dolman and the Atyeo made a fair bit of noise on Saturday. Last season and the previous we could hear the EE, but this season we just cant. I'm not trying to score any points, it's just a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I was appalled by the EE against Leeds. All they seemed to sing about was Rovers demise. How is that 'supporting' City? It sends out the wrong message to the players. I know it's old hat now, but the 'Always believe' song sent out the right message and gave belief and a bit of positivety to the players. BTW....what happened to all the flag waving and the drums? They've all died a death too. I've watched Ultra's abroad, and they have one or two guy's orchestrating the chant's and songs and the rest follow. Does this happen in the EE? I don't know, because i prefer to watch my footie from the Williams. Perhaps a bit of planning and effort from the fans is needed. We expect it from the players. Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 BTW....what happened to all the flag waving? I couldnt be bothered to set them up and put them away every game on my own, thats why its not happened anymore. Anyone is welcome to get them from the stewards hut and set them up, me and someone will wave them with you. Its easy to say, why isnt this happening, why is there no noise, why arnt people doing this and that, but unless people do things to help out then nothing will be done. People can moan about the atmopshere being poor, but unless people do something about it then it wont improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Not correct, A and B Dolman and the Atyeo made a fair bit of noise on Saturday. Last season and the previous we could hear the EE, but this season we just cant. I'm not trying to score any points, it's just a fact. From the EE you could only hear the Atyeo once on saturday, which gives the impression from the EE that "why is noone else singing". I think people are, just everyone else cant hear each other, its good different parts of the ground is making noise. The more the merrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 From the EE you could only hear the Atyeo once on saturday, which gives the impression from the EE that "why is noone else singing". I think people are, just everyone else cant hear each other, its good different parts of the ground is making noise. The more the merrier. Exactly. I told a mate the blocks by the away end in the upper and lower Williams were pretty loud on Saturday and he laughed with "I couldn't hear you". We just can't hear each other...why??? I think because the stands are singing a different song apart from the usual, 'C'Mon you redz!" MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I couldnt be bothered to set them up and put them away every game on my own, thats why its not happened anymore. Anyone is welcome to get them from the stewards hut and set them up, me and someone will wave them with you. Its easy to say, why isnt this happening, why is there no noise, why arnt people doing this and that, but unless people do things to help out then nothing will be done. People can moan about the atmopshere being poor, but unless people do something about it then it wont improve. I'm really sorry to hear that. I would have thought, there would be more likeminded people like yourself, who would be willing to help. I'm really suprised to be honest. Unfortunately, i'm one of those fans that like's to sit quietly, observe and study the football. That's how i enjoy my football. But i always thought i was in the minority. I hope by highlighting the plight on here, you get someone to help you. I really enjoyed seeing Gerry Gow being waved. Keep up the good work, you are appreciated by many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 This has probably been discussed to death in the past, but does anyone else think that if we had the whole Eastend and put away fans into the corner of the Atyeo nearest the Dolman the atmosphere would improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Unfortunately, i'm one of those fans that like's to sit quietly, observe and study the football. That's how i enjoy my football. But i always thought i was in the minority. Thats how football should be, people who want to sit quietly and watch the football should have a space to do it. People who want to sing, shout etc and enjoy themselves that way should have a space to do that, its the way it should be. We are lucky at ashton gate people have a choice with an "unoffical standing" area on a old terrace, or for example sitting quietly in E block of the dolman and having a proper decent view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskay Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I was appalled by the EE against Leeds. All they seemed to sing about was Rovers demise. Honestly - appalled, come on?!!? A lot of the anti-rovers chanting was because the Leeds scummers were singing there's only one team in bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knowle Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I was appalled by the EE against Leeds. All they seemed to sing about was Rovers demise. How is that 'supporting' City? It sends out the wrong message to the players. I know it's old hat now, but the 'Always believe' song sent out the right message and gave belief and a bit of positivety to the players. BTW....what happened to all the flag waving and the drums? They've all died a death too. I've watched Ultra's abroad, and they have one or two guy's orchestrating the chant's and songs and the rest follow. Does this happen in the EE? I don't know, because i prefer to watch my footie from the Williams. Perhaps a bit of planning and effort from the fans is needed. We expect it from the players. Just a thought... What wrong with singing about traditional things like rovers and If your so appalled why not go in there and help out with planning? Seems to me despite no goals since new years day the EE is still giving it a go check the eastenders forum then this one there is a massive difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eskay Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 It bugged me that the Leeds fans where singing "you're support is sh@t" We were singing it to them, I thought they were very quiet considering they were winning and away from home and had 2000+ fans. We only had the occasional Marching on Together and a handful of other chants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knowle Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Exactly. I told a mate the blocks by the away end in the upper and lower Williams were pretty loud on Saturday and he laughed with "I couldn't hear you". We just can't hear each other...why??? MM The sound doesnt travel and you cant hear it from the dolman side not unless it got back to the eighties days v the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest betty is a legend Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I was appalled by the EE against Leeds. All they seemed to sing about was Rovers demise. How is that 'supporting' City? It sends out the wrong message to the players. I know it's old hat now, but the 'Always believe' song sent out the right message and gave belief and a bit of positivety to the players. BTW....what happened to all the flag waving and the drums? They've all died a death too. I've watched Ultra's abroad, and they have one or two guy's orchestrating the chant's and songs and the rest follow. Does this happen in the EE? I don't know, because i prefer to watch my footie from the Williams. Perhaps a bit of planning and effort from the fans is needed. We expect it from the players. Just a thought...[/u] We expect it from the players due to thier wage packet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Honestly - appalled, come on?!!? A lot of the anti-rovers chanting was because the Leeds scummers were singing there's only one team in bristol. I'm probably the wrong person to respond to this, because i'll hold my hands up and say 'I'm not a singer or chanter'. Used to be, but not anymore, as i like to just sit and observe. However, if i must, then i will say the EE are reactive rather than Proactive. I don't blame them though. It's hard to get fired up watching the shite on show at the moment. It won't have gone unnoticed by the powers that be though. I think it's definately a mindset. I watched Pompey get a thumping at Manure last season, and their fans didn't shut up the whole game. Regardless of how bad times are, some teams support continues, some don't. I definately think we are a 'Sing when you're winning' Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frome Valley Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I'm probably the wrong person to respond to this, because i'll hold my hands up and say 'I'm not a singer or chanter'. Used to be, but not anymore, as i like to just sit and observe. However, if i must, then i will say the EE are reactive rather than Proactive. I don't blame them though. It's hard to get fired up watching the shite on show at the moment. It won't have gone unnoticed by the powers that be though. I think it's definately a mindset. I watched Pompey get a thumping at Manure last season, and their fans didn't shut up the whole game. Regardless of how bad times are, some teams support continues, some don't. I definately think we are a 'Sing when you're winning' Club. I would agree with the opening poster fans can do a bit more than "when the team gives wins I will be arsed" because we might wake up finding the Gas really did get relegated, but so did our team. I don't think you can generalise to the degree you have though. Some fans are relentlessly proactive in the East End. Saturday the support was viewed as awful, poor or quite good depending on stand. Different stands and differing ways of support e.g Rovers chants - Tom Thumb. The mindset has changed, expectations for some are higher, some don't care anyway, but Ashton Gate is a noisier ground now than it used to be. Five, six years ago the atmopshere was very poor, last relegation the ground was a morgue. Ashton Gate is a world away from some of the grim aways in this division like the Riverside. Pompey v City in the cup during the FA cup their support was not so good by the way should have lost maybe!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Think it's pretty poor to be honest. As spudski and others point out, Portsmouth 0-5 OT yet a good atmosphere. Watched Bari-Genoa on Sunday- Bari are bottom, doomed and Genoa are a midtable side. Also not a derby- yet pretty noisy atmosphere all the same, albeit pretty empty ground. Not always that simple though, Man Utd, Arsenal win most weeks but their grounds are hardly among the top atmospheres in world terms! I would say, I do remember one game- Birmingham in the relegation season I think it was Spring 1999. Real noisy atmosphere that day, indeed in the two home games that led up to it. Why? Siege mentality I guess- altogether as one. Anti Rovers chants a bit dated I think, Always Believe was one that was good but generally a few more imaginative chants may not go amiss. Sure 'Drink up Ye Cider' is pretty ok but 'Come on Your Reds' and Red Army. Come on, surely we can do better than these relatively generic chants. Edit: Have just found a load on here, but they don't seem so widespread unfortunately! http://www.bcfc3lions.co.uk/page78.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Admin Phantom Posted February 15, 2011 Admin Share Posted February 15, 2011 I know we don't have much to cheer about cause we all have reason not cheer the team on. But I do believe we need to get behind the team even We all need to do what Delia said be the 12 man We are getting out done by the away fans each Saturday I wrote something similar to this before, but it is the chicken and egg scenario ! The crowd get noisier when the team give them something to shout about, and apparently the players only perform better when the crowd make more noise ! So who is to blame ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just a thought, but when we kicked off our revival back in October the two home games v Reading and QPR were the two which started it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong (Reading game not in Bristol, QPR watched in pub but no sound on TV)- but was the atmosphere for those 2 not top class? Real siege mentality and so on- certainly from those I know who went to the game and the indications in the report, the indications were that the atmosphere was very good. We were in a similar rut to now (6 from 11, 3 goals conceded in multiple games and CC loss to Southend) but the fans played their part in the revival! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just a thought, but when we kicked off our revival back in October the two home games v Reading and QPR were the two which started it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong (Reading game not in Bristol, QPR watched in pub but no sound on TV)- but was the atmosphere for those 2 not top class? Real siege mentality and so on- certainly from those I know who went to the game and the indications in the report, the indications were that the atmosphere was very good. We were in a similar rut to now (6 from 11, 3 goals conceded in multiple games and CC loss to Southend) but the fans played their part in the revival! Can't edit so this next best bet- watching Aris v Man City, cracking atmosphere over there really different to most games here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Shaun Wright Phillips is the worst player in the world, without exception. I'm not a massive fan myself, but thought he did quite well Saturday off the bench at OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 No, he is slow, cant pass cant control cant dribble. his performance in this match has pretty much stopped Man City playing anything like football... thus costing me my accumalator!!! Bastard! Mancini you ******* dick, get Ballotelli on... Oh, good man! Oh he's definitely poor tonight no doubt about it, very poor. Like I said though Saturday at OT, he did make a difference (not a decisive one)- but then even a moderate player can get it right once I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mad Cyril Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Honestly - appalled, come on?!!? A lot of the anti-rovers chanting was because the Leeds scummers were singing there's only one team in bristol. But I thought Leeds hate Rovers with a passion. They quite like City from England trips etc. Are you sure they were not joining in OTIB to share a dislike of the smaller team in Bristol? I may be completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 But I thought Leeds hate Rovers with a passion. They quite like City from England trips etc. Are you sure they were not joining in OTIB to share a dislike of the smaller team in Bristol? I may be completely wrong. I thought it was more a case of Leeds arrogance, they were singing one team in Bristol meaning themselves although I could be completely wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 :englandsmile4wf: :englandsmile4wf: http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=127641840641669 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Revolution Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 The right side of the EE have the right ideas: slowing songs down and allowing them to build up. Also singing a variety of songs Where as..... The left side, apart from the speed at which they sing are willing to sing for 90 minutes. Combine the two and we something half decent. I think banter back and forth from ateyo to the EE would improve the atmosphere. Many teams sing between the stands at each other. We could even try this in the EE. For example were the right side, were the right side, were the right side over here............were the left side, were the left side etc I think we need someone like they have in italy or at celtic who will lead and dictate the EE atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 despite the amount of stick the guy with the microphone got last season, i reckon he could improve things in the eastend. But atyeo, we heard you pipe up for a bit during the leeds game, so we know its still there! stand up and be heard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KP8 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Lets make sure against scunny that we all get AG bouncing again and really get behind the boys from the start and keep it going and hopefully it will give them the confidence to play how we know they can eg: Cardiff at home!! and get the Win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Without wishing to sound a bit like a cynic/pessimist, how many times have these sorts of threads been on here this season, only for not a great deal to happen on the atmosphere front come the game itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Without wishing to sound a bit like a cynic/pessimist, how many times have these sorts of threads been on here this season, only for not a great deal to happen on the atmosphere front come the game itself? Similar thread before the Reading game. Awesome atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Similar thread before the Reading game. Awesome atmosphere. Fair enough then, fingers crossed that we get the same vs Scunny and indeed carry it on for the rest of the season! Just seems to me though, that the games I've been able to make- and perhaps I have been unlucky in this regard- that the atmosphere has been pretty quiet indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Without wishing to sound a bit like a cynic/pessimist, how many times have these sorts of threads been on here this season, only for not a great deal to happen on the atmosphere front come the game itself? As mentioned above Reading and QPR were two nights when all us fans pulled together and created a great atmosphere which clearly boosted the teams performance. If you think it hasn't worked before, lets change your view on Saturday! COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Fair enough then, fingers crossed that we get the same vs Scunny and indeed carry it on for the rest of the season! Just seems to me though, that the games I've been able to make- and perhaps I have been unlucky in this regard- that the atmosphere has been pretty quiet indeed. I think the atmosphere will be good for Scunny, mainly as it is a must-win game. However, I do agree with you that AG has been very flat this season. It may be down to abject performances from the team, but also down to a lack of commitment from us fans. I will be singing my heart out at Scunny and will hope that everyone continues to do so until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 As mentioned above Reading and QPR were two nights when all us fans pulled together and created a great atmosphere which clearly boosted the teams performance. If you think it hasn't worked before, lets change your view on Saturday! COYR. As I say, hope I'm wrong. Was merely speaking from personal experience at the games I could make this season but yeah the more passionate the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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