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no lansdown no bristol city it really is that simple

no lansdown no bristol city it really is that simple

People said the same thing when Scott Davison was here,

If it wasn't Lansdown it would be someone else, Bristol City were here before Steve Lansdown and will be here long after him, no one man is bigger than the club.

As for Baldock if he wanted to join us, he would have by now I fear

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People said the same thing when Scott Davison was here,

If it wasn't Lansdown it would be someone else, Bristol City were here before Steve Lansdown and will be here long after him, no one man is bigger than the club.

As for Baldock if he wanted to join us, he would have by now I fear

Yep, spot on. No lansdown, no millions of pounds of debt to lansdown.

We may still have been languishing in the lower leagues, but we would most certainly still have a club with far far less debt.

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Just reading through your post history is very pessimistic!

I guess you have already been proven wrong after posting this the other week:

"I fully expect that Cunningham & Morris will be the only new players to be in the starting line up at Florist on August 18th"

Could turn out to be spot on, who knows what team will be picked on Aug 18th?. :icecream:

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glynriley

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Yep, spot on. No lansdown, no millions of pounds of debt to lansdown.

We may still have been languishing in the lower leagues, but we would most certainly still have a club with far far less debt.

Or we could be in debt to a bank. I know who I'd rather be in debt to.

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Or we could be in debt to a bank. I know who I'd rather be in debt to.

Or in debt to another owner. Who knows! But that is beside the point, there would still be a Bristol City.

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Or in debt to another owner. Who knows! But that is beside the point, there would still be a Bristol City.

I'm in no doubt there would be , but I'd rather Mr Lansdown than Mr Russe and his reform group !!

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Nice backtracking! So Heaton and Anderson surprised you let's just wait and see what happens eh? ;)

Definately surprised me and are good signings but they don't give me the impression of being 'Billy Big bollox' players.....Baldock does to me.

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If Baldock comes to us without taking a pay cut he will be our highest paid player.

Can we afford him ?

Will he take a pay cut or more importantly will his agent persuade him to ?

He will probably have to cut 5k a week off his salary

Does anyone really think Del will pursuade him to do that.?

I would be sounding out Paynter if i were Del..( Which Im not ) We dont have the funds to go punting players like Baldock unless Wham are a philanthropic organisation. Paynter is strong and holds the ball up well he could do a job up front for us at a sensible price. Is he still training at Donny.?

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If Baldock comes to us without taking a pay cut he will be our highest paid player.

Can we afford him ?

Will he take a pay cut or more importantly will his agent persuade him to ?

He will probably have to cut 5k a week off his salary

Does anyone really think Del will pursuade him to do that.?

I would be sounding out Paynter if i were Del..( Which Im not ) We dont have the funds to go punting players like Baldock unless Wham are a philanthropic organisation. Paynter is strong and holds the ball up well he could do a job up front for us at a sensible price. Is he still training at Donny.?

In talks with Donny I believe. Decent player , but not what we need IMO. We should be looking for a bit of pace to get in behind , Saturday's game highlighted that for me.

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Puts it to bed then surely? as they wouldn't be willing to risk an injury to a player they are looking to get money for?

It certainly suggests that any move away from West Ham is not imminent.

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Guest Ricardo 'Livi' Red

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Think he will be leaving just don't know where as the west ham first team have gone away to Portugal. Leaving him behind with u21's

Good point....

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Oli Barton tweeted: Lots of positives to take from tonight's match against Southampton.. On and off the pitch! #bristolcity

Does that mean we had a potential new signing watching who is very interested? Anyone look at the directors box?

All we know is that wouldn't of been Baldock!

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Oli Barton tweeted: Lots of positives to take from tonight's match against Southampton.. On and off the pitch! #bristolcity

Does that mean we had a potential new signing watching who is very interested? Anyone look at the directors box?

All we know is that wouldn't of been Baldock!

Probably the food outlets didn't sell out....

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Oli Barton tweeted: Lots of positives to take from tonight's match against Southampton.. On and off the pitch! #bristolcity

Does that mean we had a potential new signing watching who is very interested? Anyone look at the directors box?

All we know is that wouldn't of been Baldock!

Well if it's Oli Barton, then don't get your hopes up!

Probably be something no one will care about like new sponsored corner flags

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perhaps he is referring to alleged progress on ashton vale decision? Although better informed posters than me seem to suggest the developments are not in our favour.

I thought the same.

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12th man posted this 30 mins ago ....

@12th__man: I'm told that Buszaky is back in Bristol tomorrow after speaking to half a dozen foreign clubs to speak to McInnes again. #BCFC #BristolCity

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12th man posted this 30 mins ago ....

@12th__man: I'm told that Buszaky is back in Bristol tomorrow after speaking to half a dozen foreign clubs to speak to McInnes again. #BCFC #BristolCity

And so it continues.

Be great if he signed.

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Taken from WHU forum about Baldock last night

Waited outside Sixfields to meet some of the players, was hoping to get my GF's little bro a photo with Baldock...

The lads all finally came out to the coach, stopped Sam for a photo & autograph, decided to be quite blatant with him & I said;

"Hope to still see you in a West Ham shirt this coming season."

to which he replied;

"That's what I hope too but it's not up to me."

So he scores goals, he wants to play for us & the rest I guess is now up to Big Sam. We'll see

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Taken from WHU forum about Baldock last night

Waited outside Sixfields to meet some of the players, was hoping to get my GF's little bro a photo with Baldock...

The lads all finally came out to the coach, stopped Sam for a photo & autograph, decided to be quite blatant with him & I said;

"Hope to still see you in a West Ham shirt this coming season."

to which he replied;

"That's what I hope too but it's not up to me."

So he scores goals, he wants to play for us & the rest I guess is now up to Big Sam. We'll see

This is what I've thought the situation was all along. Baldock plays for a team who've just got to the Premier League and he doesn't want to let go of the 'dream' of playing in the Premier League. Big Sam probably wants him to go to free up a spot in the squad. He's probably waiting until he's told definitively he won't be in their squad next season. Don't really blame him for that

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Andy Horsman

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I'm still more concerned about the CB spot tbh.

The midfield is shaping up and we have forward options but boy are we very thin at the back.

If we lose say, Carey and Fontaine in the first 3 months then we could be looking at a long season or a dramatic scamble for a highly paid loan shark.

Keogh I wasn't fussed about but I am hoping that we have a plan C as now Gerrard has chosen Huddersfield.

I know McManus and Bikey had big wage issues but in a few weeks unless they lower their sights will be unemployed as far as UK football goes.

Perhaps one would accept an incentive based deal?

Who knows,but I hope McInness is now making this priority no 1.

After a good pre-season by our standards,this is the final piece for mine.

Not wanting to split hairs but MacManus has another year on his contract at Boro, so he is possibly in no rush to move on unless his wage demands are met. Bikey on the other hand could well find himself priced out of a deal in the UK as you rightly say.

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The squad flew out to Portugal yesterday and Baldock was left behind to play for the development team.

How definitive is that ?

Quite.

Think he'll be moving, but the question is where?

If the noises coming out of Charlton are correct (note- I'm just going on what has been said on here; I'm not ITK...) they don't have the cash to pay for him out right, and West Ham are keen to get him off the books for good. With the Maynard cash hanging over them we seem to have a strong advantage in terms of agreeing a fee, but not in persuading him.

In Baldock's shoes you can see his problem, as he might feel that by sticking his heels in he can force a move closer to home, but then Big Sam and West Ham's owners are not ones too look too lightly on that. Could see him spending a fair bit of time in the reserves if he acts badly.

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Sam Baldock

Last night a West Ham Development Squad team played a match against Northampton and lost 3-1. The score and the details are not important, but the team sheet is. The 20 man first team squad has gone out to Portugal to play SC Braga on Friday, and one name not among them is Sam Baldock. For me, that's a shame, as I rate him and think that given time and chances, he would become a valuable tool for West Ham's upcoming PL season. However, it appears that the club has other ideas, and this can only be yet another sign that Baldock is destined for other pastures. That's a pity: he's creative and has potential, but I suppose there's no room for him

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Why on earth did knowone from the press even question or asked Mcinnes about the possible signing of Baldock or anyone else for that matter last night? Pathetic journalism...

As for Baldock its obvious West Ham dont want him and that he is on his way out , just a question on whether we have done enough to get him, or 1 other club goes in for him who he prefers. More waiting time I guess...

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Am I the only person who believes James Wilson can step up to the plate this year. I think as long as he can stay fit, him and Fontaine can become a very strong partnership. Personally I would much rather see him trusted and given a chance rather then throw money at fairly average championship players such as Gerrard, who would be demanding a salary that dwarfs his actual ability.

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The moose from talksport just said West ham are selling Sam Baldock and Piquionne, and replacing them with saha and one other, he said "watch this space" So I expect any deal for him to go through very very soon, interesting times!

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It's a shame our wage bill is so high, if we could of shipped out the deadwood (easier said then done) I would of loved to have signed both Wilson and Bikey, would of improved our back 5 ten fold just imagine...

-------------------- HEATON --------------------

WILSON---------BIKEY-------------------FONTS---------CUNNINGHAM

We'd have plenty of cover also with Foster able to play both RB and LB if need be, Wilson can also cover CB, Carey can cover RB and CB etc...very versatile setup we would have.

Just a shame we're paying the price of our previous managers mistakes of signing deadwood on big contracts (step forward Mr Stewart)

Although Del has proven to be shrewd in the transfer market so i'm sure he has a few ace's up his sleeve yet!

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According to a supposedly relable poster on West Ham forum kumb.com, Baldock has turned us down as he doesn't want to leave London and a permanent fee has been agreed with Palace.

Wether this is right, I haven't a clue but it's dragged on too long now hasn't it?

Move on to the next one Del (probably has already).

Re: Sam Baldock

icon_post_target.gifby AMoCS on Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:07 pm

I've been told the Bristol City deal is off because Baldock didn't want to move out of London - but he's spoken with Crystal Palace (who were after him while at MK Dons) and is very close to a move to Selhurst Park.

http://kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=142107&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=460

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Time to give up on Baldock as well? This the lastest from "Knees Up Mother Brown"

The same mate that told me about Morrison leaving last week just texted me that Baldock had a medical scheduled for Monday followed by a meeting on the subject of personal terms in Bristol. On Sunday night he expressed his wish to the staff that he wants to stay at the club but if they don't want him, he wants to go on loan for a year to a club in London. He will not leave the club permanently this transfer window.

I've been told the Bristol City deal is off because Baldock didn't want to move out of London - but he's spoken with Crystal Palace (who were after him while at MK Dons) and is very close to a move to Selhurst Park.

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Apologies, didnt see Ciderup,s post

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Guest Ricardo 'Livi' Red

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Next please........

Sounds as if this is a pretty genuine story.

Move was in balance and if a player isn't keen then nor should we be.

Possible reason why he didn't go to Portugal.

No deal with us so stayed put and played Cobblers :laugh:......

Jackson for me......

Or we could snatch McCormack who Palace fans are convinced is going to them.

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