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Looking at their away end today it was a sea of blue. A few red but you could count them on 1 hand. If ever this happened to city I would love us to react in the same way and stick to red as fans.

Admire them?! They have accepted it like monkeys, no protest, nothing!

They are a joke of a club now.

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Looking at their away end today it was a sea of blue. A few red but you could count them on 1 hand. If ever this happened to city I would love us to react in the same way and stick to red as fans.

We'd never accept that though would we? Plastic fans the lot of them.

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No drink, no chat up lines, they paid for the taxi themselves, no lube, straight up the wrong un.

Welcome to Cardiff City FC.

The worrying thing is, they look like they are enjoying it.

Modern football! Good or what.

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Looking at their away end today it was a sea of blue. A few red but you could count them on 1 hand. If ever this happened to city I would love us to react in the same way and stick to red as fans.

How can you admire a load of scabs ( for want of a better word).

No principles,no bottle,no protest,no soul,and worst of all,no shame.

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Admire them?! They have accepted it like monkeys, no protest, nothing!

They are a joke of a club now.

Sorry, you are totally wrong. Following a huge outpouring of opposition, the planned change was initially cancelled.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18026567

However, when this was insinuated that it could lead to the owners withdrawing, and potential liquidation, most of us very reluctantly accepted the change.

Some haven't and have cancelled season tickets.

Get your facts right please. Bristol City fans in the same circumstances would have acted identically.

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Sorry, you are totally wrong. Following a huge outpouring of opposition, the planned change was initially cancelled.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18026567

However, when this was insinuated that it could lead to the owners withdrawing, and potential liquidation, most of us very reluctantly accepted the change.

Some haven't and have cancelled season tickets.

Get your facts right please. Bristol City fans in the same circumstances would have acted identically.

We'd never be in those circumstances because we wouldn't have tolerated Sam Hamman, Ridsdale or Tan.

But no, we'd not have acted indentically either. We'd have said "**** you" and taken our chances.

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Thousands of Dragons have bought red shirts to endorse the re-branding, and thousands turned up to the see their new brand identity emblem revealed at the ground.

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Sorry, you are totally wrong. Following a huge outpouring of opposition, the planned change was initially cancelled.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18026567

However, when this was insinuated that it could lead to the owners withdrawing, and potential liquidation, most of us very reluctantly accepted the change.

Some haven't and have cancelled season tickets.

Get your facts right please. Bristol City fans in the same circumstances would have acted identically.

Well done. You moaned. They said it wouldn't happen. They then changed your mind and what happened? A few moans on your forums and that's it?

Don't give me all that going bust rubbish, look how many chances clubs get now. Portsmouth are still going for Christ sake, you only go bust if your a small club like Chester etc.

Where's the protests at the ground? The refusal to buy the kit? The pitch invasions refusing change. You big rebranding party went down well didn't it, there is proof of that!

Where's the big protests at that? Where's the defacing of the badge on your legoland ground?

Infact where the **** is any sign of protest bar your moans online and a few people not renewing.

Well done, half a dozen people probably didn't renew, bet they are your heroes now arnt they!

Your an embarrassment to football, your country, your father if he took you to watch Cardiff. You have collective let them down.

If you think any different, I'm sorry but your a fool.

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We'd never be in those circumstances because we wouldn't have tolerated Sam Hamman, Ridsdale or Tan.

But no, we'd not have acted indentically either. We'd have said "**** you" and taken our chances.

Bristol City almost went squits in the 80's. You currently rack up large annual losses..don't think you are immune.

You, personally may have said '*** you' but I'm extremely confident that when faced with a choice of a colour change or potential liquidation you would reluctantly accept the latter.

Cardiff fans don't exactly have a reputation for being meek and mild ya know, and the clubs history is solidly blue..if it happens at Cardiff it can happen anywhere.

That's the truth, kid yourself all you like, but Bristol City fans would have done the same.

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Well done. You moaned. They said it wouldn't happen. They then changed your mind and what happened? A few moans on your forums and that's it?

Don't give me all that going bust rubbish, look how many chances clubs get now. Portsmouth are still going for Christ sake, you only go bust if your a small club like Chester etc.

Where's the protests at the ground? The refusal to buy the kit? The pitch invasions refusing change. You big rebranding party went down well didn't it, there is proof of that!

Where's the big protests at that? Where's the defacing of the badge on your legoland ground?

Infact where the **** is any sign of protest bar your moans online and a few people not renewing.

Well done, half a dozen people probably didn't renew, bet they are your heroes now arnt they!

Your an embarrassment to football, your country, your father if he took you to watch Cardiff. You have collective let them down.

If you think any different, I'm sorry but your a fool.

Well...the point of this thread...

Cardiff fans solidly wearing blue.

numerous threads on our messageboards recently of fans being abused for wearing red.

Keep Cardiff Blue movement.

Unless you are 17 though, life isn't about protesting, its about succeeding and making the best decisions to that end.

Reluctantly accept the red kit (as the alternative is a worse scenario) and never wear red. That's what most of us are doing.

Credit to whomever started this thread..

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Bristol City almost went squits in the 80's. You currently rack up large annual losses..don't think you are immune.

You, personally may have said '*** you' but I'm extremely confident that when faced with a choice of a colour change or potential liquidation you would reluctantly accept the latter.

Cardiff fans don't exactly have a reputation for being meek and mild ya know, and the clubs history is solidly blue..if it happens at Cardiff it can happen anywhere.

That's the truth, kid yourself all you like, but Bristol City fans would have done the same.

So go bust then. Not that you would, that is complete rubbish.

Go bust, start again in the lowest league.

Your a bunch of sell out whores. You absolute disgust me.

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Well...the point of this thread...

Cardiff fans solidly wearing blue.

numerous threads on our messageboards recently of fans being abused for wearing red.

Keep Cardiff Blue movement.

Unless you are 17 though, life isn't about protesting, its about succeeding and making the best decisions to that end.

Reluctantly accept the red kit (as the alternative is a worse scenario) and never wear red. That's what most of us are doing.

Credit to whomever started this thread..

Hardcore protesting there, I like it........

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Sorry, you are totally wrong. Following a huge outpouring of opposition, the planned change was initially cancelled.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18026567

However, when this was insinuated that it could lead to the owners withdrawing, and potential liquidation, most of us very reluctantly accepted the change.

Some haven't and have cancelled season tickets.

Get your facts right please. Bristol City fans in the same circumstances would have acted identically.

70 ( seventy) cancelled there season tickets.

70 who had some bottle.

No we wouldn't accept it, just because your fans got taken in by Sam Hamman and now by some Malaysian geezer it doesn't mean all of us are the same.

I would rather go to the conference or lower than do what you did.

Wimbledon,Aldershot,FC United and other non

League clubs put you lot to shame.

They saw the injustice and stood up for themselves, you ( except the 70 who can sleep at night) caved in.

MK Dons and Cardiff,two of a kind.

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So go bust then. Not that you would, that is complete rubbish.

Go bust, start again in the lowest league.

Your a bunch of sell out whores. You absolute disgust me.

So your colour is more important than anything else? Utterly ridiculous. You are clearly too young to realise the numerous clubs that have changed colours over the years.

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70 ( seventy) cancelled there season tickets.

70 who had some bottle.

No we wouldn't accept it, just because your fans got taken in by Sam Hamman and now by some Malaysian geezer it doesn't mean all of us are the same.

I would rather go to the conference or lower than do what you did.

Wimbledon,Aldershot,FC United and other non

League clubs put you lot to shame.

They saw the injustice and stood up for themselves, you ( except the 70 who can sleep at night) caved in.

MK Dons and Cardiff,two of a kind.

You are wrong, but hey ho.

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So your colour is more important than anything else? Utterly ridiculous. You are clearly too young to realise the numerous clubs that have changed colours over the years.

Show me another club who have changed purely for money and no other reason? That is the worst part.

Cardiff should be blue, not red.

Football is all about tradition, what will happen when mr tan wants to change the name to something better like Cardiff dragons?

You lot just going to accept that for £xxx million? Have your make beleive protests over that?

Your an embarrassment, you have done it all for money, no other reason, to chase a magical dream to reach the premier league.

Don't mention going bust again, as that is complete rubbish

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Pretty unintelligent rubbish on this thread. The Cardiff fans have little say in what goes on - sh't happens. At least some foreign investor sees some potential there. Slag them off for changing the colour of their shirts - but all of you mugs still fork out £45 a season for the 'new' shirt despite it being little more than a cosmetic change. A question ... what matters? The shirt or the league position? If some foreign $b pumped his/her fortune into City which meant we were actually in the Premier League, would you turn it down if it meant City had to play in blue shirts? I couldn't give a sh't to be honest about the colour of the kit ... it's pretty irrelevant. And if wearing red matters more than where we play in terms of league position ... I suspect that you're probably one of those kids who is worried about QCA moving the goal posts so that your GCSE English is a D rather than a C!

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So your colour is more important than anything else? Utterly ridiculous. You are clearly too young to realise the numerous clubs that have changed colours over the years.

Your actually on here supporting what you have done. Shamefull,whatever happened to the spirit of South Wales.

When they closed the pits they took all of the fight out of you it seems.

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Pretty unintelligent rubbish on this thread. The Cardiff fans have little say in what goes on - sh't happens. At least some foreign investor sees some potential there. Slag them off for changing the colour of their shirts - but all of you mugs still fork out £45 a season for the 'new' shirt despite it being little more than a cosmetic change. A question ... what matters? The shirt or the league position? If some foreign $b pumped his/her fortune into City which meant we were actually in the Premier League, would you turn it down if it meant City had to play in blue shirts? I couldn't give a sh't to be honest about the colour of the kit ... it's pretty irrelevant. And if wearing red matters more than where we play in terms of league position ... I suspect that you're probably one of those kids who is worried about QCA moving the goal posts so that your GCSE English is a D rather than a C!

I would have no interest watching city in the premier league in blue HOME shirt, that is not the city we know. That is selling your history purely for money.

Also, no I'm not, I took my exams many years ago.

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Bristol City almost went squits in the 80's. You currently rack up large annual losses..don't think you are immune.

You, personally may have said '*** you' but I'm extremely confident that when faced with a choice of a colour change or potential liquidation you would reluctantly accept the latter.

Cardiff fans don't exactly have a reputation for being meek and mild ya know, and the clubs history is solidly blue..if it happens at Cardiff it can happen anywhere.

That's the truth, kid yourself all you like, but Bristol City fans would have done the same.

Thats an opinion not a truth. Your "fans" are savouring the aroma around whatever it is passing for what was CCFC.Your "fans" have a reputation for compliantly supporting bubble trips over the Severn. Bristol City support took a different view.

Your assertions are risible and you are only kidding yourself.

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So your colour is more important than anything else? Utterly ridiculous. You are clearly too young to realise the numerous clubs that have changed colours over the years.

It is your identity.

Would Cardiff have gone out of business and disappeared forever if they had decided to keep their identity?

If the answer is no then I'm afraid you're going to have to put up with people insinuating that you have sold your arses for a quick dolla.

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Thats an opinion not a truth. Your "fans" are savouring the aroma around whatever it is passing for what was CCFC.Your "fans" have a reputation for compliantly supporting bubble trips over the Severn. Bristol City support took a different view.

Your assertions are risible and you are only kidding yourself.

Have a word with the Football Supporters Association about which club has been instrumental in campaigning against bubble trips.

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Pretty unintelligent rubbish on this thread. The Cardiff fans have little say in what goes on - sh't happens. At least some foreign investor sees some potential there. Slag them off for changing the colour of their shirts - but all of you mugs still fork out £45 a season for the 'new' shirt despite it being little more than a cosmetic change. A question ... what matters? The shirt or the league position? If some foreign $b pumped his/her fortune into City which meant we were actually in the Premier League, would you turn it down if it meant City had to play in blue shirts? I couldn't give a sh't to be honest about the colour of the kit ... it's pretty irrelevant. And if wearing red matters more than where we play in terms of league position ... I suspect that you're probably one of those kids who is worried about QCA moving the goal posts so that your GCSE English is a D rather than a C!

Your not talking to kids fella.

Your talking to people who have principles,beliefs and bottle.

For the record, I dont buy shirts,I don't hanker for the Prem,the fans ARE the club and our clubs colour is red.

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Have a word with the Football Supporters Association about which club has been instrumental in campaigning against bubble trips.

While your fans still happily went on them?

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http://www.toffs.com/Bristol-City-1909-FA-Cup-Final/productinfo/1909/

omg - I am going to stop supporting City ... we once played in blue ...

In a fa cup final, Add to that last season away kit had blue, plus wembley 2000.

Non of those were our home kit, none of those were by forgien owners trying to fill their own boots, none of them were done for money reasons only.

I fail to see how that helps your arguement.

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sad thing is - if I turned up at Ashton Gate in this blue shirt, some very intelligent fan would probably thump me in the face ... pity soccer fans are so unintelligent. enjoyed Bath Rugby v Cardiff last evening. Not an officer in site ...

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http://www.toffs.com/Bristol-City-1909-FA-Cup-Final/productinfo/1909/

omg - I am going to stop supporting City ... we once played in blue ...

The FA ordered both us and Manchester United to change our kits because we both played in red. For one match.....ordered by the FA....not for cash.

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Bristol City almost went squits in the 80's. You currently rack up large annual losses..don't think you are immune.

You, personally may have said '*** you' but I'm extremely confident that when faced with a choice of a colour change or potential liquidation you would reluctantly accept the latter.

Cardiff fans don't exactly have a reputation for being meek and mild ya know, and the clubs history is solidly blue..if it happens at Cardiff it can happen anywhere.

That's the truth, kid yourself all you like, but Bristol City fans would have done the same.

We nearly died in the 80s which is EXACTLY why we'd never let someone who wasn't a fan of the club take it on and why we'd never accept what you have. Your plastic fans only have yourselves to blame, you let Hamman and Ridsdale blind you with empty promises, your greed got the better of you and you allowed them to run you so far into the red you've had to prostitute your club to survive. Don't kid yourself that it could happen to anybody, it hasn't has it?

Our losses are underwritten by the owner, he puts his cold hard cash in as loans which convert to stock, it's equity investment not the kind of asset stripping you let Hamman get away with. That's because he's a fan.

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Pretty unintelligent rubbish on this thread. The Cardiff fans have little say in what goes on - sh't happens. At least some foreign investor sees some potential there. Slag them off for changing the colour of their shirts - but all of you mugs still fork out £45 a season for the 'new' shirt despite it being little more than a cosmetic change. A question ... what matters? The shirt or the league position? If some foreign $b pumped his/her fortune into City which meant we were actually in the Premier League, would you turn it down if it meant City had to play in blue shirts? I couldn't give a sh't to be honest about the colour of the kit ... it's pretty irrelevant. And if wearing red matters more than where we play in terms of league position ... I suspect that you're probably one of those kids who is worried about QCA moving the goal posts so that your GCSE English is a D rather than a C!

The history of the club matters. No kids here, just actual fans.

I'd turn down Premier League if it meant accepting a foreign investor in a heartbeat, because I don't trust people to run the club that aren't already fans. And that's not what Cardiff got for selling out is it? They got one final outside chance at promotion, and probable ruin when they fail.

You seem to have a pretty deep hatred of football, I do wonder why you bother?

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so the City fans boycotted the game because we played in blue?! My grandfather didn't have a problem ..

I doubt it, as we didn't play rovers in a league game untill 1922 do I doubt there was much of an issue over using blue.

You fail to see the whole money aspect of it. I expecting your just trolling now, so will leave it at that.

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Nibor ... I was at the Gate 64-65 ... I love football ... but hate all this corporate crap. Dynamic ticket pricing ... Today I watched my local non league team ... turned up at 3pm and paid cash on the gate. I can't be bothered with all this pre booking etc. My grand father's best mate was Ivor Guy ... so don't talk to me about history etc.

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I doubt it, as we didn't play rovers in a league game untill 1922 do I doubt there was much of an issue over using blue.

You fail to see the whole money aspect of it. I expecting your just trolling now, so will leave it at that.

Exactly

It's no different to playing in Gold for the LDV final against Stoke in 2000. in 1909, Rovers were not a league club, there was no rivalry reason for not choosing blue to play in for one game.

I wonder if Cardiff fans would be happy to play in White shirts and shorts if the price is right?

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Nibor ... I was at the Gate 64-65 ... I love football ... but hate all this corporate crap. Dynamic ticket pricing ... Today I watched my local non league team ... turned up at 3pm and paid cash on the gate. I can't be bothered with all this pre booking etc. My grand father's best mate was Ivor Guy ... so don't talk to me about history etc.

I don't see what relevance your Grandad's mate has to your rather random views on whether City fans would accept a foreign investor.

I don't know why you care that you can pay cash on the gate instead of pay it online and get in quicker, but it was POTD today and the prices have gone down, and it was a game of interest, so you've got some neck coming on here criticising city fans who did actually go.

Good luck on your mission to time travel back to the 60s.

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Discussed this at length today. If city 'did a Cardiff' I'd probably become your standard prem supporter, I'd have about as much connection to a city team that has sold its soul and plays in blue as I would to lets say... Everton. So I might as well support them! Better standard of football after all?

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Fact of the matter was that in our scenario, we held out for a local businessman, which we eventually got; our current chairman/investor is a long term fan of the club with his son on the board of directors. Cardiff could've surely held out for a more local investor who was a fan of the club such as we did? Just how much were Cardiff's debts?

There should've been so many other options for a solution to a club facing breakdown, they could restart, slashed wages, focused on the academy (such as Reading, who follied their time by wheeler dealing due Madejski being almost broke due to projects he took up outside of football, while making only profit sellingplayers from their academy, ie. Sigurdsson to Hoffenheik for 8m w/ 15% sell on fee), they could have restarted the club as a whole; heck, at the time, Port Vale manager Micky Adams helped bale the club he worked for out!

While I can say football has become very money dependant, it should never amount to the extent that some malaysian businessmen waltzes into cardiff and offers the ultimatem "Play in Red, Get money now", this should never be acceptable.

Even as rivals, I used to hold a smidge of respect for Cardiff City FC, as even a few on here may do, as many other clubs that are rivals may do for you being our main local rivels in terms of division, alot of clubs and fans across the football league, especially clubs such as Wimbeldon, Aldershot, can now fairly think to themselves they may of restarted, but their pride is intact. If your club was run properly.. That situation should never have come to fruition.

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I was stunned by the amount of red shirts in the crowd when Cardiff played on the tele last weekend. Simply embarrassing.

Let me be clear, my opinion of Cardiff and their fans was never exactly high, but I didn't expect them to be so pathetic in the way they have just sold out their history.

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Tip of the iceberg for you Dragons.

Dato Tan and his Tan clan have a history of changing stuff.

One of Australias biggest races is now called the Dato Tan stakes - because he wanted it.

You will have Malaysian writing on your pretty red tops soon, be supping Malaysian beer and dining on pork balls and noodles.

Your players will be on Malay TV and Tans kid will be in charge of new signings - an asian lad next I would think.

And you will all bend over and take it up the wrong un - again.

Soul Crew - Sold Out crew more like.

Theyve already brought a south korean for about 2.5mil. Dont think hes even got a work permit yet. Im quite confident their manager hadnt even heard of him 2 months ago let alone had him on his wish list. The 'you buy what we say you will buy' has already begun. When has that situation ever worked in the past?

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How can you admire a load of scabs ( for want of a better word).

No principles,no bottle,no protest,no soul,and worst of all,no shame.

No offence but were all humans and were all city fans but put your self in there situation and we would all do the same support your club and hope to get promoted even if it means selling your soul. I

I do apologise for kinda siding with Cardiff but thy didnt have no say in the matter

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Bristol City almost went squits in the 80's. You currently rack up large annual losses..don't think you are immune.

You, personally may have said '*** you' but I'm extremely confident that when faced with a choice of a colour change or potential liquidation you would reluctantly accept the latter.

Cardiff fans don't exactly have a reputation for being meek and mild ya know, and the clubs history is solidly blue..if it happens at Cardiff it can happen anywhere.

That's the truth, kid yourself all you like, but Bristol City fans would have done the same.

Personally I think you're right. Principles are easier to have hypothetically. In reality if it were a colour change or bust, I'd just want the club to keep going and would keep wearing my red.

Having said that I'd also realise that other fans would leap onto that as a reason to taunt and tease so CBL, I think you'll have to just suck it up and take it for the time being.

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No offence but were all humans and were all city fans but put your self in there situation and we would all do the same support your club and hope to get promoted even if it means selling your soul. I

I do apologise for kinda siding with Cardiff but thy didnt have no say in the matter

No mate,YOU may well do what you state,but don't talk for others.

Let's talk about the Wimbledon fans then, or aren't they human brings!

Look what they have done.

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I don't really see what your granddad's relationship with an ex city player had to do with me? It's your attitude towards "soccer" I can't fathom out!

When you get to his (?) age a bit of late night trolling is good for the insomnia!

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So all week leading up to the game I've taken abuse and ribbings, talk of WE'VE bought this player and that player so on & so forth, WE will hammer you etc, etc!

..........then after the game the same spineless Cardiff fans have dropped the WE bit and talking about how "The Chinks" have ruined THEIR club!

I've never met such a fickle bunch of "supporters", in all my days!

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Long time no see - Couldn't make it yesterday - in fact haven't been to Ashton since we got stuffed 4-1 with the andy Cole show

Anyway there's too much to answer on this thread but to say the re-branding has been devisive at best and is going to descend into fisticuffs soon ( especially if we/when we have a bad run ).

Here's a taster from this mornings message board

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.php?t=msg&th=333909&start=0&rid=0

From all my mates reports the best team won so can't say fairer than that.

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Long time no see - Couldn't make it yesterday - in fact haven't been to Ashton since we got stuffed 4-1 with the andy Cole show

Anyway there's too much to answer on this thread but to say the re-branding has been devisive at best and is going to descend into fisticuffs soon ( especially if we/when we have a bad run ).

Here's a taster from this mornings message board

http://www.ccmb.co.u...9&start=0&rid=0

From all my mates reports the best team won so can't say fairer than that.

5-1.

Fair play to you for your honesty.

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sad thing is - if I turned up at Ashton Gate in this blue shirt, some very intelligent fan would probably thump me in the face ... pity soccer fans are so unintelligent. enjoyed Bath Rugby v Cardiff last evening. Not an officer in site ...

Are you from Bath?
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CBL, I have read your forums regularly since the rebrand was mooted and I appreciate there was no real option but to accept it after Tans' threat to pull out leaving you in rediculous debt.

One question, would your support have accepted the change so readily if Tan had said the colours were changing to white a la Swans rather than red?

Personally, I think he had you over a barrel by putting all the previous debt on to the club so I assume it would have been the same? I think not.

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