Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Not a lot else to talk about today, should be a heated game. Liverpool gone with a 4-3-3 Reina Kelly Skrtel Agger Johnson Shelvey Gerrard Allen Borini Suarez Sterling Man U 4-4-2 (Sky Sports live scores has them set up this way anyway) Lindegaard Rafael Ferdinand Evans Evra Valencia Carrick Kagawa Giggs Van Persie Nani I'll go with 2-1 United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 goosebumps hearing you'll never walk alone belted out by thousands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 1-1 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Sense a liverpool goal coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 If ever there was a game I want them BOTH to lose...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Shelvey sent off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBbcfc Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Only one player went in with two feet there. Evans. Take your blinkers off. It's embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Take your blinkers off. It's embarrassing Have to agree abit with JT BOTH players were off the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBbcfc Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Have to agree abit with JT BOTH players were off the ground How many of Evans studs went into Shelveys leg though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Wasn't a red card tackle at all. Manchester United have been awful.. Nani is absolute garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 How many of Evans studs went into Shelveys leg though? Point is you cant jump into tackles watch it again at half time and you will see they Both jumped in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Got United at 12/5 just before Shelvey got sent off. They're playing wretched though, need massive improvement second half to win my money. Get the hairdryer out Fergie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Wasn't a red card tackle at all. Manchester United have been awful.. Nani is absolute garbage. Disagree, had to be a red card his studs went into Evans ankle. United need to get Welbeck on for Nani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 What blinkers? Watch it. Both as bad as each other, both out of control. Only difference is that **** Ferdinand getting in the ear of the ref. Only difference one had a utd shirt on Simple as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 from first look it looked a straight red card.. but slow motion and different angles it's probably the in-correct decision. so harsh on liverpool iswell as they were dominant for 40 minutes, man utd are complete shit. Still thought they dominated after the red! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Disgraceful decision in a game united haven't been in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Looking at it again should of both got the same card IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBbcfc Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Point is you cant jump into tackles watch it again at half time and you will see they Both jumped in Agree they both jumped in although I'd say only Shelvey's stud made contact with the opponent. Possibly both yellows but I do think that Shelvey deserved a red due to the contact he made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Should of booked them both and that is it. What has happened to this game... it's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Wasn't a red card tackle at all. Manchester United have been awful.. Nani is absolute garbage. Yes it was, but maybe a case for Evans' being too. Evans feet were a little more 'grounded' and he took some of the ball. Shelvey smashed into Evans' shin. Such a difficult one for the ref at high speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Obvious red. Probably should have been two. Stop crying Liverpool fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 He should have sent Ferdinand off, just for being Rio Ferdinand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Evans won the ball first. Shelvey was late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Man United to come out this second half and win 2-0 due to a Fergie rant. Maybe not. Suso is on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBbcfc Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 That was deserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789000 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Suspect on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Have some of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Have some of that. Shhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Evans won the ball first. Shelvey was late. Makes absolutely no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Great goal there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Carrick next scorer at 25/1 why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Suarez is vile. Never known a player to so such much disrespect to officials and opposite players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 If ever there was a game I want them BOTH to lose...... +1 Always hated ManUre but have always been neutral on Liverpool until all the whinging crept in, now they are up there with Baardiff & Millwall. Would rather watch the Singapore GP. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Rio? Ronaldo? Fergie? Rio doesn't throw his arms in the air and cry like Suarez does if a decision doesn't go his way, neither is he racist. don't get me wrong, Manchester United players are no angels but Luis Suarez is just rotten imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Choc Ice not racist? He was talking to somebody of the same colour as himself. If I was to call you a cream cracker would I be a racist even though I am white myself? I don't think that works tbh. How someone can be racist to someone of the same colour/religion as themselves is just obsurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Choc Ice not racist? What if suarez called cole a choc ice would it be then??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Of course. Sorry but you cant have one rule for one and one for another!! Saying that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 MAN U PENO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 What? Dive btw. Haha how blinkered? Not a dive in the least, a clumsy challenge and a definite penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 What? Dive btw. I dunno, i thought it was a penalty, contact there, only seen it the once though, missed the replay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Jamie shocking Carragher is on! That bloke needs to retire, unbelievable player a few years back but now he is desperately suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 1-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 On his way down before contact. Looking for it all day long. Same as Suarez was. He was about to shoot, and Johnson's challenge blocked him without touching the ball. Even if you were right about him being on his way down, which I don't think he was, it would still be a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Difference between RVP and Shelvey? The badge on their respective shirts. Standard. They were both worthy of a booking, Shelvey's was a little higher and his other leg followed through afterwards though. David Luiz's yesterday was a definite red though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Clearly eleven v eleven liverpool don't lose this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Clearly eleven v eleven liverpool don't lose this game. Clearly Liverpool are in the relegation zone on merit though. They have some poor players, can't see them finishing in the top 6 that's for sure. And I'm quids in cheers Shelvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Clearly Liverpool are in the relegation zone on merit though. They have some poor players, can't see them finishing in the top 6 that's for sure. And I'm quids in cheers Shelvey Top 10 would be an achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Well, so far Linekar, Le Tissier, Morris, Murray all disagree. Just from a glance at twitter. I'm sure you know a hell of a lot more than those 4 pros. Yeah, cos pros are renowned for being right about refereeing decisions. Stop crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'm a neutral as I hate both teams as much as eachother, but the Ref ruined it today he has had an absolute shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 No way was that a penalty, embarrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'm a neutral as I hate both teams as much as eachother, but the Ref ruined it today he has had an absolute shocker. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 What a surprise Mark "useless" Halsey ruins another game. I've despised this man since a game at Stockport in the early 2000's when he clearly robbed us and sent one of ours off. The man shouldn't be refereeing Downs League let alone Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Two legends of the game included, both who have a career in analysing football. Yeah, they know nothing. It was a penalty, Johnson stopped him shooting by impeding him. Why do glory hunting Liverpool fans always cry that it's unfair? The only complaint you can have about that referee is not sending off Evans, he got the rest right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 If that was an Italian game I would be thinking the ref had been given a nice little brown envelope!!! But that wouldnt happen in english football would it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Two legends of the game included, both who have a career in analysing football. Yeah, they know nothing. Penalty or not, Liverpool lost and that's all that matters surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Clear penalty. As ever Liverpool fans whining. Neither side look a goal threat but Liverpool look like they could do well with a goal scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Loving the plastic scousers crying on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 From what I heard with a proper striker Liverpool would have demolished United today. Also good to see our star man Suso having a game. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I know it wont happen but could we see em in Championship next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 . It's funny because it's Liverpool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Was deffo a pen, Johnson caught his foot and pushed him. Shelvey was a red, rvp was close got to remember he kept one foot on the ground so booking is about right. Suarez should of been pen second half but as Neville and Redknapp said on sky doesn't help himself by throwing his head back when he goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I hate Liverpool more than Man.Utd. I used to work with a Liverpool fan amd he was one big headed BAS%$RD. I might add this is in 70s and 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Glory hunting? I'd be a Man City fan if that were the case and I most certainly wouldn't be a Bristol City fan. As I've explained several hundred times, My family are from Liverpool, My Father a Scouser and a red. I had no choice. Luckily he also loves City, worked for the club in the 80's including during '82 when the club was in meltdown. Football is a game of opinions, because mine (and evidently many others) is different to yours does not mean I or anyone else is crying. I could be accused of holding a bias, but several neutrals have posted in this very thread that the referee had a poor game. Twitter is awash with this opinion too. Are you more knowledgeable than what I can see is a majority verdict? You definitely have a bias. What was it about the incident you think wasn't a foul? Are you saying there wasn't contact? Or that the contact didn't impede Valencia? Because for it not to be a foul, one of those has to be true and I can't see any way watching the replay you can claim either. Lazy pundits can use words like "soft" but in reality if you stop someone with contact without playing the ball it's going to be a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 suso actually did okay to be honest The "Oh wait" bit was really referring to him being linked with us, but yeah I heard he had a hand in the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 He was on the way to the ground before any contact was made. Johnsons hand touched Valencia making it looking like he might of contributed to the fall... It didn't. It certainly was no more of a foul than that on Suarez, which I too thought was a little divey. Evans and RVP did nothing different to Shelvey and recieved different punishments. Several fouls given in the last few minutes were dubious. The amount of Added on time had absolutely no correlation with the stoppages in the game. That's about all I've got on Halsey. Makes no real difference if it was or wasn't a penalty, if Shelvey should have been sent off or not. Until Liverpool can put the ball in the back of the net, and find a goalscorer to do so, they will get what they deserve. Shocking transfer policy by the club is trying to be hidden by complaints of being hard done by on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I don't blame the ref for either the sending off or the pen as my first reactions were the same as his, in hindsight I don't think it was a pen but I do think it was a sending off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 He was on the way to the ground before any contact was made. Johnsons hand touched Valencia making it looking like he might of contributed to the fall... It didn't. It certainly was no more of a foul than that on Suarez, which I too thought was a little divey. Evans and RVP did nothing different to Shelvey and recieved different punishments. Several fouls given in the last few minutes were dubious. The amount of Added on time had absolutely no correlation with the stoppages in the game. That's about all I've got on Halsey. It doesn't matter if he was on the way to the ground or not, and I don't think he was. Johnson wrapped the back of his right leg around Valencia's left leg when he was about to shoot and brought him down. He could have got a shot away but for that. It was a rash, clumsy challenge made with the wrong leg and Johnson didn't even argue about it - that's a big clue right there. Evans wasn't quite as bad as Shelvey as it wasn't as high, but IMO should have been a red too. RVP was no more than a booking IMO, not as bad as either of the others. Suarez would have had a decent penalty shout if he wasn't a diving cheat, but he's already ruined his reputation so will never get the benefit of the doubt, particularly not with the somersault. There was over 8 minutes of injury time, which is as much as Fergie ever gets so I wouldn't complain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Did Liverpool hit the post today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Did Liverpool hit the post today? I think Gerrard may have, how else do you think they got on the scoresheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Glory hunting? I'd be a Man City fan if that were the case and I most certainly wouldn't be a Bristol City fan. As I've explained several hundred times, My family are from Liverpool, My Father a Scouser and a red. I had no choice. Luckily he also loves City, worked for the club in the 80's including during '82 when the club was in meltdown. Football is a game of opinions, because mine (and evidently many others) is different to yours does not mean I or anyone else is crying. I could be accused of holding a bias, but several neutrals have posted in this very thread that the referee had a poor game. Twitter is awash with this opinion too. Are you more knowledgeable than what I can see is a majority verdict? Funny though that all if your opinions involve Liverpool being wronged? Shelvey was unlucky given that Evans went in two footed, but it wasn't exactly a 'good' challenge by JJ though was it? Van Persie on the other hand went in with one foot, slid along the ground rather than flew through the air and actually took the ball. Ot wasn't even a foul as far I could see. Saurez's penalty claim didn't appear at first to be a penalty but in zoomed-in, super slow-mo would probably have been a penalty. Can't really blame the ref for missing that. The Valencia one was a nailed on penalty; Johnson caught his foot as he was about to strike the ball. It may well have been accidental but it was still a penalty. Incidentally, it was only the 2nd penalty Ferguson has won at Anfield so perhaps Utd don't get favourable treatment everywhere they go As for Ferdinand and 'choc-ice gate' he never called anyone anything, he '-ed' (to use the modem vernacular) or similar at someone elses tweet. Its a bit of a leap from there to insulting someone because of their skin colour which is essentially what Suarez did. The fact that Evra continues to be booed by Liverpool fans is a sad indictment on the 'everyone's out to get us' mentality of Liverpool fans, fuelled by the clubs reaction to him being a racist I do feel sorry for Liverpool today; they were the better team for much of the game, even with 10 men. However, they lost the game because they lack a cutting edge not because there's a conspiracy against them. I do find Jordan that you seem to be much more willing to find excuses for Livrpool and Liverpool players than you do for City. Where as Liverpool are cheated, City were just shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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