Guest thorne Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Bench him and give the captaincy back to Carey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Bench him and give the captaincy back to Carey. Joe Bryan would make a better captain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I don't care about the captaincy just drop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookey Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Sorry, I'm going to defend Fontaine He has had different and often inept defenders almost every game alongside him. When Carey, a player he knows, and trusts played against Middlesbrough he did well. Also, however bad you think he is there isnt another REGULAR player who could be Captain. Carey is just part time now. There you have the problem, which players would you pick each week and which one would be captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Revolution Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Take his arm band and shirt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Sorry, I'm going to defend Fontaine He has had different and often inept defenders almost every game alongside him. When Carey, a player he knows, and trusts played against Middlesbrough he did well. Also, however bad you think he is there isnt another REGULAR player who could be Captain. Carey is just part time now. There you have the problem, which players would you pick each week and which one would be captain? I don't think he's as bad a player as people make out. But he is a horrendous choice of captain IMO. Heaton or Stead would be the most likely candidates for me which speaks volumes about leadership in our team. Maybe Danns would be a shout if we could sign him perm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Sorry, I'm going to defend Fontaine He has had different and often inept defenders almost every game alongside him. When Carey, a player he knows, and trusts played against Middlesbrough he did well. Also, however bad you think he is there isnt another REGULAR player who could be Captain. Carey is just part time now. There you have the problem, which players would you pick each week and which one would be captain? He has inept defenders alongside him? He's the worst of the lot!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 He has inept defenders alongside him? He's the worst of the lot!! Have to agree. And even if he has so what? He is the captain, you make sure you stand up and be counted. He doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulcitymod Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I've watched Liam Fontaine for many seasons now and I don't think he is generally worse but the pressure of captaincy has affected his game for sure. Not a captain/leader figure on or off the pitch, but a decent centre half on most days. However whoever appointed him captain should have recognised this long before I had to write this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 And to think he was close to joining Southampton in the summer for 800k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBS14 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Take his armband and give it to someone who gives a fig. Del you need to drop the guy, it could be your downfall Did anyone else see or know why he was giving the thumbs up to the dolman?? Reckon he was getting some verbals and he was sarcastically given the thumbs up perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Albert was given plenty near the end from the Dolman. He was thumbing up the people slating him. Didnt see Fontaine though. Pisses me off when Fontaine claps the fans though when hes being booed off!! Aswell as an inept captain and footballer, hes either good with sarcasm or thick as two planks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 He was pathetic yesterday. No fight, no spirit. Not fit to wear the shirt on yesterday's performance. It's gone on too long now though Jordan. I really can't see him being dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redrobbin Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 heaton captain loan fontaine to guernsey FC Good shout cider. Heaton is the only one you can hear shouting at this team mates. He can see it all in front of him. Trouble is they don't seem to be listening to him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 And to think he was close to joining Southampton in the summer for 800k. I wonder if that's had something to do with his shocking form as well you know, maybe it went to his head? That coupled with the fact Del constantly raves about him and probably assured him a place in the team every week behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I wonder if that's had something to do with his shocking form as well you know, maybe it went to his head? That coupled with the fact Del constantly raves about him and probably assured him a place in the team every week behind closed doors. I doubt it, I do think he believes he's better than he is though. Fonts is a player who plays to the level of those around him, with good players he is a good player but with poor players like we have he gets found out and is rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redrobbin Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 And to think he was close to joining Southampton in the summer for 800k. They certainly dodged a bullet there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 he needs those two infront of him to help out.it was mentioned on motd last night that evertons fortunes have taken a good turn since the 2 cms slotted in.sounded just like our plight. too much on his plate to be good at anything on his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I doubt it, I do think he believes he's better than he is though. Fonts is a player who plays to the level of those around him, with good players he is a good player but with poor players like we have he gets found out and is rubbish. Sorry that should have read Del constantly raved about him, not raves about him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I just can't see Faultaine getting dropped, he must be a real ass licker in training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redrobbin Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I just can't see Faultaine getting dropped, he must be a real ass licker in training Let hope he gets laid up with "Rim jaw" then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I remember Fonts getting taken apart by Doyle when Reading beat us 4-1, although he was playing LB that day. Maybe it's a mental thing and he shouldn't be picked when Kevin Doyle is in the opposition ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I remember Fonts getting taken apart by Doyle when Reading beat us 4-1, although he was playing LB that day. Maybe it's a mental thing and he shouldn't be picked when Kevin Doyle is in the opposition ! Maybe we shouldn't pick him when the opposition play any attacking players he might be ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GlennHumphrys1 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 heaton captain loan fontaine to guernsey FC No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 We brought in Danny Wilson (a current international) a left sided centre half and he still wont drop Fontaine. Our defence has been awful for a couple of seasons now and most of that points to Fonts. He should never have been made captain, he like too many of our players are too nice ,he never barks out orders gives a bollocking or offers encouragement to team mates he is just to quiet for the armband . I would strip him of the captaincy and farm him out on loan for the season in the hope he may find his lost form. If McManus is staying after Jan i would make him Captain when he returns from injury. He's been a proven Captain at previous clubs and others around him would have respect for him, whereas who the fek has any respect for Fonts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dolman03 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 He just can't handle the responsability of the captaincy, and that has been Dels biggest mistake so far. Nor can he organise the back line. I sit near the front, and Heaton is the only one attempting to establish some organisation. It's been a distraction to his game, and after a year of poor performances, the last few months shocking, he's lost all confidence. After such a long time playing poorly, I can't see him ever recovering. We should get shot of him in January, bring in a proper defender, or two (depending on how generous SL is feeling), and appoint a new captain. I don't think we can speculate on a new captain, since Pearson and Foster are the only players that seem to survive McInnes's constant re-jigging. If that stops, then we can look at picking a new one dependant on regulars. Davis seems the only player who performs well, and so i think he should be given a more regular place and the arm band. Stead I think is the best leader, but would you fancy starting him every game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derk94 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'd give the captaincy to Killa.. I know I'm going to get slated but he actually looks organised and as if he could orchestrate the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Good shout cider. Heaton is the only one you can hear shouting at this team mates. He can see it all in front of him. Trouble is they don't seem to be listening to him!! Well he didn't shout that much on Saturday! I think he was certainly partly to blame for the first and fourth goals. He was utterly static. You'd have thought he could've taken a leaf out the Wolves' keeper's book - he claimed every ball that came near their box. I feel Gerken deserves another stint after that performance. It's a tough call to pick a new captain though. Foster has captained his club, but his performances are way too inconsistent for him to be any sort of role model. Carey doesn't play often enough. Albert is too goofy off the pitch and a maverick on it. Young Joe is too young. Marv doesn't deserve it - and nor do most of the others. My best suggestion is Pearson. He can perform when he's got his head straight and he does at least run all over the pitch, is rated by the manger and being from Jockland he can understand what McInnes is saying. Judging by the organisational shambles out there, I don't think many of the others can. If Pearson's dropped and if Stead is in the side, my suggestion would be him. While he's hardly a goal machine, he has showed he cares about the club and he always gives 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolNorthEndRed Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I really am baffled as to how long it has taken some fans to come to the conclusion that Fontaine is not good enough at this level! He is probably a lovely chap, I don't know, but it doesn't look as though he will ever make a good centre back. That aside, I do think the manager should sit up high in the stands on the half way line and watch the game, you get a much clearer perspective (AD used to do this and communicate with the bench via his telephone). It's no good watching a video of the game, it's too late to do anything about it then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Sorry, I'm going to defend Fontaine He has had different and often inept defenders almost every game alongside him. When Carey, a player he knows, and trusts played against Middlesbrough he did well. Also, however bad you think he is there isnt another REGULAR player who could be Captain. Carey is just part time now. There you have the problem, which players would you pick each week and which one would be captain? Heaton... good communicator and has long spells watching the game. IMHO, Fontaine could do with losing the Captain's armband. It's holding him back me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I BELIEVE Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 This was what happened 80% of the time when we had the ball saturday: When we had the ball, Kilkenney demanded it and got it, passed back to Fontaine, who crapped himself and 1st though was to play back to Heaton, Wolves then pressed us high forcing Heaton to kick long to Taylor on his own up front with no one to flick it on to, so we ended up losing it. I lost count of the number of times we did this! We look so uncomfortable on the ball its unreal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Successful teams have captains who lead by example. John Terry , Vincent Kompany , Nemanja Vidic , Carlos Puyol. Leaders , who demand from others , the kind of effort they are willing to give themselves. Look at Kevin Nolan v Chelsea on Saturday , harrying opponents , cajoling , yelling instructions. Then compare that to Fonatine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinredrobin Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Maybe Keith Millen had it right - he was selling Fontaine to Southampton until he failed the medical so maybe he saw that Fontaine had peaked already ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'd give the captaincy to Killa.. I know I'm going to get slated but he actually looks organised and as if he could orchestrate the team! As I have posted in another thread I actually think too much significence is placed on who is the captain. However, if Neil Kilkenny ever runs out with the armband on I can safely say I will do something I've never done before and leave a game early. I've seen more passion, spirit, effort, pride and dedication in a cheese sandwich than in 'Killa'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulcitymod Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'd give the captaincy to Killa.. I know I'm going to get slated but he actually looks organised and as if he could orchestrate the team! No. Never. I directly attribute Killkenny as part of the core of the abominal performances against Charlton and Wolves. Should not even be in the squad. Pretty much our worst player. Big gob no action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Rarely say this, but agreed. Well said Ralphy. I agree as well, but probably yet another indicator of how girly football has become, ask your dad about Ronnie Yeates, Tommy Smith, Phill Thompson and the wonderful and sadly missed Emlyn Hughes they were proper captains, who did lead their teams and their teams respected them and didn't argue with them, now all 11 players seem to have an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 As I have posted in another thread I actually think too much significence is placed on who is the captain. However, if Neil Kilkenny ever runs out with the armband on I can safely say I will do something I've never done before and leave a game early. I've seen more passion, spirit, effort, pride and dedication in a cheese sandwich than in 'Killa'. I doubt you would be on your own! People trying to get in through the turnstiles and people climbing over the fence to get out Kilkenny should never wear the shirt again, I'm sure someone said somewhere that Kilkenny thought he didn't think that he had a bad game! I doubt he even listens to orders not even the maddest of managers would pick someone to sit in front of the back four when he can't tackle and is scared of the opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Well he didn't shout that much on Saturday! I think he was certainly partly to blame for the first and fourth goals. He was utterly static. You'd have thought he could've taken a leaf out the Wolves' keeper's book - he claimed every ball that came near their box. I feel Gerken deserves another stint after that performance. It's a tough call to pick a new captain though. Foster has captained his club, but his performances are way too inconsistent for him to be any sort of role model. Carey doesn't play often enough. Albert is too goofy off the pitch and a maverick on it. Young Joe is too young. Marv doesn't deserve it - and nor do most of the others. My best suggestion is Pearson. He can perform when he's got his head straight and he does at least run all over the pitch, is rated by the manger and being from Jockland he can understand what McInnes is saying. Judging by the organisational shambles out there, I don't think many of the others can. If Pearson's dropped and if Stead is in the side, my suggestion would be him. While he's hardly a goal machine, he has showed he cares about the club and he always gives 100%. Ha ha, thought that would come up at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Ha ha, thought that would come up at some point Sorry I agree with the poster.. Jon is a fabulous guy, really cares and has great tattoos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ateyomike Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 always have thought fontaine has blown hot and cold but never deserved to be capt i find that a hard choiuce and was diappointed at the start of the season when i heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Sorry I agree with the poster.. Jon is a fabulous guy, really cares and has great tattoos You talk crap sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Why are people so obsessed with the cataincy? Really is the least of our worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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