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So I think must of us now believe that relegation is a certainty.

So the big boy vultures of the championship are circling...

Who are the assets most likely to be bought from us?

Adomah, despite his current lack of form, I would suggest is likely to be a favourite, along with Cunningham who, you would think would demand quite a high fee. Maybe Moloney? I'm not sure anyone would particularly want many others.

So who is looking favourite to get poached as we're now relegation fodder?

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Albert for sure , Cunningham almost a certainty , Heaton & Kelly possibly. Can't see many of the others attracting Championship interest. Maloney is decent enough but has only just arrived and would have signed in the knowledge he would probably be a League 1 player next season.

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Albert for sure , Cunningham almost a certainty , Heaton & Kelly possibly. Can't see many of the others attracting Championship interest. Maloney is decent enough but has only just arrived and would have signed in the knowledge he would probably be a League 1 player next season.

Agree can't see Stead, Davies or Baldock sticking around either we wont get a massive amount of money for them but enough to be tempted to sell them.

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You'd be surprised.

There is bound to be managers out there who feel they could get the best out of them. Wouldn't surprise me if they went to a better team and was a good performer.

Surprised ?? I'd be ******* amazed !!

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I thought you were talking about the opposite.. so on that note and since others reckon midfield will be a priority and considering our gaffer has an Irish name, even if he may hail from Brumigen, he might look to one Kevin Keegan for a midfield dynamo. Now don't shoot me down, I know he is getting on a bit but he could still do a job for us...

..... and considering he is playing for Donegal Celtic in the Irish Prem it might not be a bad shout.. we need to be looking at up and coming talent. ;)

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Cunningham, Kelly, Maloney, Anderson and Baldock are all under contract and I expect to see them here next season and hope that they will be with us for a while (if we are serious about becoming a passing - pass and move team).

Adomah will probably go, but if we can replace him with a pacy player with an eye for a cross/pass I wouldn't be to upset.

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Cunningham, Kelly, Maloney, Anderson and Baldock are all under contract and I expect to see them here next season and hope that they will be with us for a while (if we are serious about becoming a passing - pass and move team).

Adomah will probably go, but if we can replace him with a pacy player with an eye for a cross/pass I wouldn't be to upset.

The brief times i've seen him I thought Wes Burns could be a player to fill that role.

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I thought you were talking about the opposite.. so on that note and since others reckon midfield will be a priority and considering our gaffer has an Irish name, even if he may hail from Brumigen, he might look to one Kevin Keegan for a midfield dynamo. Now don't shoot me down, I know he is getting on a bit but he could still do a job for us...

..... and considering he is playing for Donegal Celtic in the Irish Prem it might not be a bad shout.. we need to be looking at up and coming talent. ;)

I think we should have a look at Walsall. They have some decent young players who seem to play some good stuff. Could fit into Sods style nicely.
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Cunningham, Kelly, Maloney, Anderson and Baldock are all under contract and I expect to see them here next season and hope that they will be with us for a while (if we are serious about becoming a passing - pass and move team).

Adomah will probably go, but if we can replace him with a pacy player with an eye for a cross/pass I wouldn't be to upset.

If we can start with those 5, we'd have the making of a decent team... Ryan Taylor up top with Baldock, two new central defenders, Gerks in goal, pacey left winger... Promotion party come may.

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Heaton

Cunningham

Xxxxx

Xxxxx

Moloney

Xxxxx

Elliott

Xxxxx

Anderson

Davies

Baldock

That'd be a decent start. I think we can hold onto the two strikers as I don't think they've done enough to be wanted elsewhere.

Here's to hoping!

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Heaton

Cunningham

Xxxxx

Xxxxx

Moloney

Xxxxx

Elliott

Xxxxx

Anderson

Davies

Baldock

That'd be a decent start. I think we can hold onto the two strikers as I don't think they've done enough to be wanted elsewhere.

Here's to hoping!

So how about

Heaton

Cunningham

Xxxxx

Xxxxx

Moloney

Anderson

Elliott

Kelly

Burns

Davies

Baldock

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I can guarantee you that Heaton, Cunningham, Albert and Baldock at least will not be here if we get relegated.

Well Heaton will be out of contract so can go if he wishes, Albert we will probably let go because we can cash in a little - but the others are contracted and I hope the club makes them honour them.

A lot of people will be gone (if we let them, at the end of the season due to contract expiry) which will free up squad places and some of the wage budget as well

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I wouldn't be surprised for one of Bates/Nyatanga to have their contract extended. We're losing a lot of centre backs this summer and it could be hard to replace them all unless acadamy players are ready to step up.

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When I lived in Cardiff I remember joining Cardiff fans in barracking a useless lummock who played up front. Then Bill Shankly paid a Cardiff record fee for him, and we all thought the great man had finally lost it.

That player won two European Cups as player and one as manager. It was John Toshack. One man's lummock is another man's superstar...

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GK: New player

RB: Maloney

CB: New player

CB: New player

LB: Cunningham

RM: New player

CM: Kelly

CM: Elliot

CM: New player

LM: New player

ST: Baldock

If Heaton leaves I think Gerken may stay providing he starts, so:

Gerken

Moloney

McFadzean (can see this deal going through in the summer)

New CB

Cunningham

Burns

Reid

Kelly

Bryan/New LM

Baldock

Davies/New ST (depends if we make Davies stay or sell him to reduce the wage bill)

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If Heaton leaves I think Gerken may stay providing he starts, so:

Gerken

Moloney

McFadzean (can see this deal going through in the summer)

New CB

Cunningham

Burns

Reid

Kelly

Bryan/New LM

Baldock

Davies/New ST (depends if we make Davies stay or sell him to reduce the wage bill)

Exactly this imo - although hopefully Anderson stays.

Gerken's contract's up and I can't see him being offered a new one - so maybe a new keeper too (but would love Heaton to stay).

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Exactly this imo - although hopefully Anderson stays.

Gerken's contract's up and I can't see him being offered a new one - so maybe a new keeper too (but would love Heaton to stay).

How did I forget Anderson?! Hopefully we hold onto him considering he only signed a contract at the start of the season. Solves the RM situation and could mean Burns upfront then, think the pace of Burns and Baldock would make most teams worried.

Can't see Heaton staying tbh unless he doesn't want to move from the area then I reckon he will go seeing as he is definitely championship standard. I think it may be too much for the club to try and sign 2 keepers we can rely on in one summer hence why I think Gerken may be offered an extension.

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On the subject of poachable assets however looking at other clubs, if we need a striker in the summer and Bradford don't get promoted then Nahki Wells? 22 year old striker with a scoring rate just better than 1 in 3, would back him to get better as well. May cost a bit but would be a sign of intent in our signings and would likely have a resale value if and when he were to leave the club too.

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The thing with Baldock is we paid a fairly substantial fee for him and I suspect he's on a relatively hefty wage for Championship level. Whilst I'm sure there's clubs who'd be interested, I'm not sure if he's done enough this season for any clubs to want to pay us enough for us to want to accept a bid or him enough to want to accept their offer. I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed. I also reckon we might manage to keep Moloney too - clubs could easily have got him from Forest in January and either they didn't go for him or he chose us so I reckon we're okay.

Heaton's a tricky one - good keeper but his record this season isn't great and I'm not sure he'd move somewhere without a promise of regular football. I think we'll lose Adomah (which makes sense as he's only a year left on his contract after this), quite possibly Cunningham and maybe Anderson.

Other than that most of our 'better' players haven't, for one reason or another, been able to show what they can do this season so I don't think there's going to be that many chasing them...

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I think there'll be a desire to keep as many of the 'good' players as possible, but there's more at play than just whether it would be a good idea on the pitch for them to stay. Wages will be a significant factor and I doubt both Davies and Baldock will be retained. I don't think either will particularly want to stay, but if I had to net on one or the other staying I'd say Baldock is more likely to be here come next season. Cunningham and Adomah will have plenty of offers and may be sacrificed to fund further signings. Hopefully Burns and Bryan (who'd be fine in League 1 IMO) will be viewed as replacements. Kelly and Moloney will stay unless we get silly offers; they signed with full knowledge of the situation we were in so I think they'll be prepared to stay. Can't see many out of contract players staying though. The main thing we need to sort- be it in League 1 or following some miraculous survival- is centre half. We need AT LEAST 2 more from somewhere, possibly 3. I'd be happy to retain Bates as I think with a full pre-season we'd see his class. Other than that, get McFadzean in and find someone else. Not sure whether there are any good defensive prospects in the u21s?

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Well I'm hoping that we can entice Jon Stead to stay on for a couple more years. He's been a massive loss for us over the last few games, is still only 30 and will do a fantastic job in League One.

Agree with this 100%.

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My Championship manager offering ;)

Offer new contracts to Skuse and Heaton on average League 1 wages, otherwise all the below can go. I would also try to offload Kilkenny, Foster, Fontaine and Pearson if we can find suitor willing to take over there contracts, though I think this will be difficult.

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We have to try and bounce back at the 1st time of asking, Adomah is a luxury and our most saleable asset, we have Burns and Anderson who can play wide right so I would be happy to let him go so.

I would try and keep Cunningham, Davies, Kenny, Baldock and Maloney who have the quality to get us out of League One, Burns, Krans, Reid and Bryan would need to play a more prominant place in our squad.

Any money should be spent on central defence and midfield, plus a GK if Heaton does not sign.

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Stead is a must stay.

The lad would be great in L1, if we happen to somehow retain Baldock and/or Davies our strikeforce would rip most defences to shreads in that league.

Agree with the other poster , 3 new centre halves would be nice!

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My Championship manager offering ;)

Offer new contracts to Skuse and Heaton on average League 1 wages, otherwise all the below can go. I would also try to offload Kilkenny, Foster, Fontaine and Pearson if we can find suitor willing to take over there contracts, though I think this will be difficult.

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We have to try and bounce back at the 1st time of asking, Adomah is a luxury and our most saleable asset, we have Burns and Anderson who can play wide right so I would be happy to let him go so.

I would try and keep Cunningham, Davies, Kenny, Baldock and Maloney who have the quality to get us out of League One, Burns, Krans, Reid and Bryan would need to play a more prominant place in our squad.

Any money should be spent on central defence and midfield, plus a GK if Heaton does not sign.

isn't Skuse already dithering over a contract offer because of the terms ? Can't see him signing a new one on even lower wages.

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isn't Skuse already dithering over a contract offer because of the terms ? Can't see him signing a new one on even lower wages.

Thats fine, any player in this position being it Heaton, Skuse, Elliot, Stead etc, a handshake and a thank you before showing them the door.

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His contract is expiring. He wants to play Premier League football not league 1.

He is also one of the few players that have continuously impressed this season, he would walk into most championship sides IMO.

I thought his contract was 1 year with an option for another year?

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I honestly hope no contract are renewed this summer. People are saying the likes of Nyatanga could do a job in League 1 so offer him a new contract. Why? Surely we need to try to build a squad capable of competing well in the Championship?

if no contracts are renewed then this will be our squad for next year:

Brendan Moloney - 2015 James Wilson – 2014 Liam Fontaine – 2014 Greg Cunningham - 2016
Richard Foster – 2014 Joe Bryan - 2015
Albert Adomah – 2014 Liam Kelly - 2016 Stephen Pearson - 2014 Paul Anderson - 2014
Wes Burns – 2015 Bobby Reid - 2015 Neil Kilkenny – 2014
Steven Davies – 2015 Sam Baldock – 2015
Ryan Taylor – 2014
I'd love to see Foster, Fontaine, Pearson, Kilkenny move on but I can't see it happening.
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I honestly hope no contract are renewed this summer. People are saying the likes of Nyatanga could do a job in League 1 so offer him a new contract. Why? Surely we need to try to build a squad capable of competing well in the Championship?

if no contracts are renewed then this will be our squad for next year:

Brendan Moloney - 2015 James Wilson – 2014 Liam Fontaine – 2014 Greg Cunningham - 2016
Richard Foster – 2014 Joe Bryan - 2015
Albert Adomah – 2014 Liam Kelly - 2016 Stephen Pearson - 2014 Paul Anderson - 2014
Wes Burns – 2015 Bobby Reid - 2015 Neil Kilkenny – 2014
Steven Davies – 2015 Sam Baldock – 2015
Ryan Taylor – 2014
I'd love to see Foster, Fontaine, Pearson, Kilkenny move on but I can't see it happening.

their contracts expire next year - the best the club could do is say "Sorry guys, your not in our plans for the future - we are going to put you in training with the reserves, it will be in your interest to let us/your agent try to find clubs for you, no hard feelings, thanks for your time here blah, blah, blah - wish you luck in the future"

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Well Heaton will be out of contract so can go if he wishes, Albert we will probably let go because we can cash in a little - but the others are contracted and I hope the club makes them honour them.

A lot of people will be gone (if we let them, at the end of the season due to contract expiry) which will free up squad places and some of the wage budget as well

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Elliot - are people certain he is out of contract? I thought he'd had an extension. If he's thought to be thoroughly fit at last, and will take L1 wages we know he'd be effective next year. We're certainly going to need battlers.

Stead - 30 this week, poor appearance record. He'd have to take a huge wage cut for the club to consider keeping him. He's said to love BCFC, well we're about to see just how much. If the club offer him a new contract at all, that is.

Bates, Wilson M., Wilson J., Carey, Howard, Skuse - time to go, no messing about, no sentiment for the locals.

Gerken - If Heaton goes, keep Gerken, he's easily good enough for L1. In fact we won't find better. He may well have had his fill of bench sitting though so we may end up losing both. Most of us accept Gerken is very capable, you just never know with a new keeper.

Nyatanga, depending who we're getting in, consider keeping as back up on reduced wages. Again, he's more than good enough for L1 alongside the likes of McFadzean.

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Only Adomah and those out of contract. We don't need to sell anyone, so why would we?

Well said. If you look at our side only a small amount would get into another Championship teams first 11.

Any club that wants to sign a player intends on IMPROVING their squad, not just adding bodies to it.

Adomah, perhaps Cunningham and maybe Skuse, Baldock & Davies would be an asset to another Championship club. The last two however only signed this season so don't think they'll end up off.

Plus they'll not want to ruin their 'loyalty bonus' and kick up a fuss.

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Only Adomah and those out of contract. We don't need to sell anyone, so why would we?

We will definitely need to sell - where at all possible - with relegation and FFP the wage bill has to be reduced massively for next season in L1.

Freeing all the out of contract players, plus selling Albert, would be nowhere near enough.

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I think the longer term players will stay. Cunningham and Moloney are on longer contracts and having played under SOD before will probably want to continue with him for at least onerous season. Anderson the same. Kelly will stay as he is long term and would have just got settled, baldock I hope will stay as well as Davies but time will tell. Fontaine, nyatanga, foster, adomah, Pearson, Kilkenny and stead will all be off. Ryan Taylor will take dreads place next season. I hope Heaton will stay but if not, we have gerken to be no1 again. I would like to see more of burns, Reid, krans and Bryan next season too. I think it could be exciting but it all depends on who leaves.

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We won't be able to afford Baldocks wages if we go down, doubt he'll be wanting L1 football anyway, same goes for Cunningham, Albert, Heaton and various others. Would imagine Gerken will be gone in the summer as well.

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We won't be able to afford Baldocks wages if we go down, doubt he'll be wanting L1 football anyway, same goes for Cunningham, Albert, Heaton and various others. Would imagine Gerken will be gone in the summer as well.

I wouldn't be so sure. Relegation clauses are in the contracts of the newer players.(At least that's what SL intimated at Wolves)

Whether he wants to stay on lower wages is a different matter.

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We won't be able to afford Baldocks wages if we go down, doubt he'll be wanting L1 football anyway, same goes for Cunningham, Albert, Heaton and various others. Would imagine Gerken will be gone in the summer as well.

This, we simply can't pay Championship wages in League 1 with the new FFP rules regardless if they stay or not.

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Question is, how much percentage is the wage decrease in the contracts? And then, even then, we may not be able to afford it. FFP is such a big thing to this club. Will others abide by it, and if not, will they get hit by more than a slap on the wrist and get away with it? And of course the dodgy "how to get around it" comments... I am not convinced.

Will be a youthful City next season, but would be surprised if we got anywhere near bouncing back up at the first attempt.

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No idea why people think Heaton is good enough for the Championship, he's been poor and should of stopped all 3 at Derby.

They can all go, I'd prefer to keep Stead but he earns a lot, shame, very good footballer and would murder L1 (if we go down)

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I lot of people here are talking about cunningham leave,

It would take a massive offer for us to sell him he signed a 4 or 5 year contract when he joined and as we know with Albert and Maynard we'll keep the player as long as possible even if it means he comes down to his last 12 months,

The same can be said about davies and baldock too,

The only player who is under contract next season I can see leaving is Albert

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No idea why people think Heaton is good enough for the Championship, he's been poor and should of stopped all 3 at Derby.

They can all go, I'd prefer to keep Stead but he earns a lot, shame, very good footballer and would murder L1 (if we go down)

still ten times the keeper Gerkin is

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I lot of people here are talking about cunningham leave,

It would take a massive offer for us to sell him he signed a 4 or 5 year contract when he joined and as we know with Albert and Maynard we'll keep the player as long as possible even if it means he comes down to his last 12 months,

The same can be said about davies and baldock too,

The only player who is under contract next season I can see leaving is Albert

GC will be highly sought after I'm sure. If someone offers us our money back , he'll be gone.

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GC will be highly sought after I'm sure. If someone offers us our money back , he'll be gone.

aye but I'm talking major bucks, look at what we've turned down in the past for players with 12 months and 18 months left on their contracts

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aye but I'm talking major bucks, look at what we've turned down in the past for players with 12 months and 18 months left on their contracts

You make a point, Monkeh. We turned down bids of £6 million for Maynard, ended up selling him for £1.75 million - suggests we're willing to hold out.

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Only Adomah and those out of contract. We don't need to sell anyone, so why would we?

i'm struggling to understand this statement. 14m losses, 35m debt, relegation, lower tv income, lower gate receipts, lower attendances, lower sponsorship money...

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aye but I'm talking major bucks, look at what we've turned down in the past for players with 12 months and 18 months left on their contracts

You make a point, Monkeh. We turned down bids of £6 million for Maynard, ended up selling him for £1.75 million - suggests we're willing to hold out.

A) I don't think we'll be trying to hold teams to ransom on the back of a relegation

B) Maynard didn't want to go to Leicester , I imagine Greg will be able to choose from 2 or 3 clubs at the higher level.

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A) I don't think we'll be trying to hold teams to ransom on the back of a relegation

B) Maynard didn't want to go to Leicester , I imagine Greg will be able to choose from 2 or 3 clubs at the higher level.

yes Greg can but only if a club make a suitable offer to Bristol City remember we paid peanuts for him because Man City put in a pretty heafty sell on clause,

I think the rumour was that we paid 70-100k and they have 30 - 40% sell on clause

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