BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'm not one to single out individuals, but Parish has to start at Swindon. Fielding must have cost us 5 minutes tonight with his distribution - or lack of. Even at 1-1 and dominating the game, taking 3 or 4 touches forward and 15-20 seconds to then kick it straight to a blue shirt or towards JET who can't win a thing in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Fast becoming a boo boy sadly. He's a confidence player. Giving him grief wont help him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 A confidence player? He's a keeper, part of his remit is distribution. It was absolutely appalling tonight and taking up to 30 seconds to get the ball in play when we're chasing a game is bordering on the ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Wendall Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Being made a scape goat I feel. Easy target, 5 minutes is a massive exaggeration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Being made a scape goat I feel. Easy target, 5 minutes is a massive exaggeration Is it? There must have been 15 occasions of him easily taking 20 seconds to distribute. That's 300 seconds - 5 minutes - of dead time. And then most of the time it was poor and went to a blue shirt so an even bigger waste. Not making him a scapegoat, he's a decent keeper in my opinion but someone needs to tell him that when we are chasing a game, don't dither around on the ball for no reason, get it in play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Whatever is going on with Fielding, Parish gets my vote, he just doesn't give off a nervy vibe like Frankie. Parish has been on for our 2 most impressive games, which we also won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 What options did he have? Sweet **** all. Yeah can't disagree with that, but better to take 1 second and give to a full back or centre back, at least there's a 5% chance of one of them looking for a forward pass. Just frustrating to see us being so lackadaisical when we are the ones chasing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Whatever is going on with Fielding, Parish gets my vote, he just doesn't give off a nervy vibe like Frankie. Parish has been on for our 2 most impressive games, which we also won Spot on with the nervy vibe. I can't remember a keeper ever making me feel so edgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Spot on with the nervy vibe. I can't remember a keeper ever making me feel so edgy. Basso perhaps? From the sublime to the ridiculous!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Basso perhaps? From the sublime to the ridiculous!!!! Yes but at least with Basso you always knew his next moment of sheer brilliance was just around the corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I just think he is breeding panic at the back. Twice tonight he was out of his area when the CB had the situation under control. I'd play Parrish Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arthur Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Can't say. Some would say I've been luck cuz I can only get to evening games. As it happens I've seen just two games, we won both and I haven't seen Fielding play yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Great. We finally get a decent keeper after so long and we've ruined him already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 He is terrible but his lack of bloody urgency when we were losing is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Seriously, **** off. Great post mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 It had a **** load more to do with our strikers taking forever to get into position. If he doesn't wait for them he might as well just stick it out for a throw... The only target was JET who wins about 1 in 20 aerial balls so may as well take 1 second to pass out than 30 to kick it ultimately to the opposition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Pathetic. Parish could've taken longer and people would be getting erect over how perfectly he took his time to find the right pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Pathetic. Parish could've taken longer and people would be getting erect over how perfectly he took his time to find the right pass Well surely that proves the point that if you're going to spend 5 minutes a game lining up your passes out of defence, it would be good to find your target occasionally! Otherwise get the ball in play and have some bloody urgency when we're losing and chasing a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'm not one to single out individuals, but Parish has to start at Swindon. Fielding must have cost us 5 minutes tonight with his distribution - or lack of. Even at 1-1 and dominating the game, taking 3 or 4 touches forward and 15-20 seconds to then kick it straight to a blue shirt or towards JET who can't win a thing in the air. In fairness to The Monk, we're supposed to be playing posession based football, a midfielder should be showing for him. Yes he aimed his punts at JET too often, but untill Harewood came on, he had nothing else to aim at. But he shouldn't be doing it every time to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Merited yours. Care to elaborate? My point was that FF's distribution has been bloody awful. If you've attended games this season that's indisputable! Parish has looked a better all round keeper from what I've seen of both keepers - 4 games for Fielding and 2 for Parish. Fielding has some good qualities but his distribution is terrible and was another frustrating element of tonight's performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 In fairness to The Monk, we're supposed to be playing posession based football, a midfielder should be showing for him. Yes he aimed his punts at JET too often, but untill Harewood came on, he had nothing else to aim at. But he shouldn't be doing it every time to be fair. Agree, but id still rather see him pass it short to a fullback or centre back quickly and get the ball rolling, especially at 1-0 down and chasing shadows!! The number of times the ball was with Weale no more than 5 seconds after a Fielding kick was silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Care to elaborate? My point was that FF's distribution has been bloody awful. If you've attended games this season that's indisputable! Parish has looked a better all round keeper from what I've seen of both keepers - 4 games for Fielding and 2 for Parish. Fielding has some good qualities but his distribution is terrible and was another frustrating element of tonight's performance. The funny thing is... I've heard from someone 'in the know' that SoD prefers FF over Parish because of his distribution. The Goalkeeper is the only thing I disagree with SoD... The more I see FF the more I think he's not that good. Not only was his distribution poor tonight, but also his calls to his defenders. He shouted at Flint twice to clear instead of making himself available for a backpass and put Flint in no end of trouble... both times leading to Flint having to haul his opponent down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Agree, but id still rather see him pass it short to a fullback or centre back quickly and get the ball rolling, especially at 1-0 down and chasing shadows!! The number of times the ball was with Weale no more than 5 seconds after a Fielding kick was silly. But surely you noticed that every time the ball was rolled back to him, the rest of the team retreated to the halfway line? Posession based football needs someone to show for him, nobody did tonight. It was percentage football tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It's not just the time he took, his kicking was generally poor. He has done nothing to justify not being rotated with Parish. I love the fact that some people here can't stand the suggestions that a player who is underperforming drops to thd bench. Itll "knock their confidence". Hey! Why not keep them in indefinitely! That really worked with David James didn't it... And anyway, what about Parish's confidence? Two sound games and he can't replace a man who is dropping clangers. As if pro footballers give a shit - or even know - what we think! Fielding's performances cannot be overlooked on the basis that he was popular in his last club and once featured in an England friendly. Parish next game please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 The funny thing is... I've heard from someone 'in the know' that SoD prefers FF over Parish because of his distribution. The Goalkeeper is the only thing I disagree with SoD... The more I see FF the more I think he's not that good. Not only was his distribution poor tonight, but also his calls to his defenders. He shouted at Flint twice to clear instead of making himself available for a backpass and put Flint in no end of trouble... both times leading to Flint having to haul his opponent down. Funny old game, huh! I think he's a good goalkeeper in that his shot stopping is good - Posh opener aside! Disappointed with his distribution and organisation/communication. I could barely hear him 5 rows behind him so god knows how the players can. Parish - although limited game time so far - seemed to organise and distribute well, though time will tell who establishes as our number one, though clear that SOD favours fielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It did get annoying this touch, touch.. touch.......touch before doing anything with it. I really don't like giving the players or the team stick but tonight was so dissapointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 The fact Harewood was twice caught offside due to making a run while Fielding continued to dither on the ball tells you all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 The funny thing is... I've heard from someone 'in the know' that SoD prefers FF over Parish because of his distribution. The Goalkeeper is the only thing I disagree with SoD... The more I see FF the more I think he's not that good. Not only was his distribution poor tonight, but also his calls to his defenders. He shouted at Flint twice to clear instead of making himself available for a backpass and put Flint in no end of trouble... both times leading to Flint having to haul his opponent down. Heard from someone in the know!?!?? Sod said this on radio bristol before the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Heard from someone in the know!?!?? Sod said this on radio bristol before the game Well you can't get closer to the horses mouth than this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Also anyone see him go wandering outside his area in the second half again? Almost another cock up. The more I see him the less convinced I am by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Also anyone see him go wandering outside his area in the second half again? Almost another cock up. The more I see him the less convinced I am by him. Yep, nearly carried it right out of his box, then if I remember rightly, nearly played himself right into trouble in the second half, again dithering on the ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Heard from someone in the know!?!?? Sod said this on radio bristol before the game Never heard it on the Radio mate... Heard it from someone about 3 weeks ago, when I was talking about preferring Parish to him. I presume yesterday on the radio was the first time SoD has said this publicly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Also anyone see him go wandering outside his area in the second half again? Almost another cock up. The more I see him the less convinced I am by him. He spends a lot of time stood completely outside the box, I just don't get it... He's going to get chipped from the half way long sometime this season if he keeps loitering there. The first few times I can understanding him looking for a player to pass to.. But after the 4th, 5th, 6th time you would think the penny would drop.. No one is making themselves available for you, so just release it... It's a bloody 50/50 ball anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 He spends a lot of time stood completely outside the box, I just don't get it... He's going to get chipped from the half way long sometime this season if he keeps loitering there. The first few times I can understanding him looking for a player to pass to.. But after the 4th, 5th, 6th time you would think the penny would drop.. No one is making themselves available for you, so just release it... It's a bloody 50/50 ball anyway... You also might have thought Fielding - and others - would have noticed that JET has the jumping ability of a blue whale, and lofting high balls in his general direction is the equivalent of just passing them out directly to the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I never really understand the kicking argument. Yes he was slow, but he has to aim for 20 blokes huddled together in a circle with a diameter of about 10 meters. Of course he's bound to find an opposition head 50% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I never really understand the kicking argument. Yes he was slow, but he has to aim for 20 blokes huddled together in a circle with a diameter of about 10 meters. Of course he's bound to find an opposition head 50% of the time. He managed to find the opposition goalie on at least two occasions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 You also might have thought Fielding - and others - would have noticed that JET has the jumping ability of a blue whale, and lofting high balls in his general direction is the equivalent of just passing them out directly to the opposition. Aren't blue whales noted for leaping out of the water - breaching, I believe it's called? Not so good at heading the ball, mind. http://www.bing.com/search/?q=blue+whale+breaching&a=results&MID=2500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I never really understand the kicking argument. Yes he was slow, but he has to aim for 20 blokes huddled together in a circle with a diameter of about 10 meters. Of course he's bound to find an opposition head 50% of the time. It's not that, it's the amount of time he wasted before doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Aren't blue whales noted for leaping out of the water - breaching, I believe it's called? Not so good at heading the ball, mind.http://www.bing.com/search/?q=blue+whale+breaching&a=results&MID=2500 Perhaps I should change that to the jumping ability of a slug. Whoever wrote that film White Men Can't Jump has obviously never seen Jay Emmanuel-Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 More time is wasted on preparing throw ins and corners. Why don't you have a go at our throw in and corner takers too? Or our free kick takers as well whilst you're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 More time is wasted on preparing throw ins and corners. Why don't you have a go at our throw in and corner takers too? Or our free kick takers as well whilst you're at it. I'm not sure it is. One improvement we've made is we occasionally take quick free kicks. Fielding was playing as if we were trying to hold on to a one-nil lead, not overturn a goal deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Questions have to be surely asked of the new GK coach? Since their remit is to get the best out of our keepers and right now, it doesn't seem that we are getting the real Frank Fielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kit Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 He came charging to the edge of his area last night in a similar fashion to the Bradford goal opening game. I think it was O Connor, but can't remember, was last man and only just won a bit of a 50:50 battle with their striker, whilst Fielding was in no mans land rushing out of the box. If the Shrewsbury player had won the ball he would have been left with a fairly simple goalscoring chance. It seems that Fielding has at least one if not two Sunday league standard goalkeeping moments in him every game. He certainly does not fill me with too much confidence at times. I have yet to see Parish's ability to make saves, as the games I have seen him in he really has not been tested, but his command fills me with a lot more confidence than Fieldings does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 More time is wasted on preparing throw ins and corners. Why don't you have a go at our throw in and corner takers too? Or our free kick takers as well whilst you're at it. Difference is there is an - albeit slim - chance of creating something from a free kick or corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm not sure it is. One improvement we've made is we occasionally take quick free kicks. Fielding was playing as if we were trying to hold on to a one-nil lead, not overturn a goal deficit. Exactly my point! A neutral would have thought he was the away keeper trying to run the clock down! I still think he's a decent keeper but you don't need to make problems like that for yourself when chasing a game! Put it this way Weale distributed twice as quickly as Fielding and our fans were giving him stick for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Your theories are bizarre to say the least, almost as if you just have this odd fascination. Your moaning how he takes too long to kick, but fail to highlight how players are in the incorrect position....he isn't just going to smash it as hope is he. Funny how you also forget FF I the east end taupaulin trying to find the ball, just to speed things up. For me he looks shaky, but not nearly as bad as you keep rambling on about, I think it's partly because u have created this ridiculous thread and your trying to gain it some impossible credibility. Nothing wrong with this thread, his lack of urgency was ridiculous when we were chasing the game, and when he took an age one time kicked it straight out of play. He needs to improve. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Your theories are bizarre to say the least, almost as if you just have this odd fascination. Your moaning how he takes too long to kick, but fail to highlight how players are in the incorrect position....he isn't just going to smash it as hope is he. Funny how you also forget FF I the east end taupaulin trying to find the ball, just to speed things up. For me he looks shaky, but not nearly as bad as you keep rambling on about, I think it's partly because u have created this ridiculous thread and your trying to gain it some impossible credibility. Hardly bizarre, I heard multiple other people bemoaning Fielding's "pace of play" also. You say players in the "correct position" but even after the wait, how often did Fielding find a red shirt? Not often. On several of those occassions he had options short and instead took 20 seconds plus to get it down the pitch instead, often instantly surrendering posession. You make it sound like I've said he's cost us points - which I didn't - but it was certainly bizarre to see the home keeper take longer to get the ball in play every time than the away keeper. Not sure I've ever picked up on that in 20 years of watching football, so I didn't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Nothing wrong with this thread, his lack of urgency was ridiculous when we were chasing the game, and when he took an age one time kicked it straight out of play. He needs to improve. End of. Don't worry, he does this on pretty much every thread I partake in, he's obsessed with arguing with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Hardly bizarre, I heard multiple other people bemoaning Fielding's "pace of play" also. You say players in the "correct position" but even after the wait, how often did Fielding find a red shirt? Not often. On several of those occassions he had options short and instead took 20 seconds plus to get it down the pitch instead, often instantly surrendering posession. You make it sound like I've said he's cost us points - which I didn't - but it was certainly bizarre to see the home keeper take longer to get the ball in play every time than the away keeper. Not sure I've ever picked up on that in 20 years of watching football, so I didn't make it up. Firstly, he only has a limited time to release the ball, particularly with fans baying for him to kick. If there aren't players in position by the, he just has to kick it and hope. Secondly, even if players are available, there is no guarantee that he will find them, particularly in a swirling wind like last night. Thirdly, there are eleven opponents doing their damnedest to intercept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Bizarre. OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Perhaps I should change that to the jumping ability of a slug. Whoever wrote that film White Men Can't Jump has obviously never seen Jay Emmanuel-Thomas Have you never heard of the high jumping slugs of Tibet ? Honestly éducation these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Have you never heard of the high jumping slugs of Tibet ? Honestly éducation these days And the flying hedgehogs that prey on them? I'm sure I saw them on the Eden Channel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Difference is there is an - albeit slim - chance of creating something from a free kick or corner. Which is more than we are going to create from our kick offs. Why do we repeatedly knock it back to Flint to lump up the pitch straight to the opposition. Gives possession away every time. If SOD's coaching them to play a passing game then the KO might be a good time to keep the ball and start passing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Which is more than we are going to create from our kick offs. Why do we repeatedly knock it back to Flint to lump up the pitch straight to the opposition. Gives possession away every time. If SOD's coaching them to play a passing game then the KO might be a good time to keep the ball and start passing it. But we are no more likely to retain possession from Fielding's kicks than Flint's upfield hoofs. This is why, with time against us, if you can see no onside target in their half, he should bring the ball into play by lobbing it to our full backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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