Cider red Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 It is difficult to argue with that. Especially when Tuesday's performance was a lot better. Which makes me think their hand is forced timing-wise on a specific candidate. Can be the only reason. That someone they think is better timing wise is available. Absolutely shocked by this though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Think its worth a bet next season see if a manager can last a full season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kelly Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 great all the SOD haters have got there wish, i for 1 am gutted as slowly but surely the progress was coming. we are right back to square 1 again now with a huge downward spiral on its way. thanks sean and best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yes, it's true: I've also just received the email from Lansdown. They've got it wrong yet again in my opinion and caved in to the pressure and negativity from a section of the fanbase. Stupid, stupid, backward step and another indication of the weakness at board level. This will cost more money the club can ill afford and cause more upheaval and discontinuity. Further evidence for me of the dysfunctionality at the heart of the oprganisation. They had better get the new appointment right or this will disrupt everything we've been trying to do and could be as likely to take us backwards as forwards. Well done to all the moaners: you've got your way. You'd better hope it works. I won't be holding my breath.Agree. I'm now about as disillusioned with the ****wits running the club and the minority of ****wits that support it as I've ever been. I dread to think who we will end up with now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni71 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 We are good as relegated now. Another transition, another payout to a manager. More players move on and more players in as a new head coach comes in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I'm genuinely surprised by this!, the board better have someone bloody good lined up and not a clown like Murray, tinnion, Carey etc. if it I am off for one -- after 55 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 we will now lose pemberton and burt who came to work with him. Jet will also leave as he prefers to work under SOD who is the only man who knows how to get the best out of him. back to square one just as we were about to turn the corner. Who ever the new manager is will not play the youth and will not get on with JET. Very bad ecision by the board again and I can only see it getting worse. Disgraceful decision. Don't panic! Don't panic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TommoBS3 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Pleased the right decision was made, disappointing performances and results to match. Poor with the media and offered little to inspire the fans. Surprised though I thought the board would stick with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Not before time. His record with us is was truly appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Agree. I'm now about as disillusioned with the ****wits running the club and the minority of ****wits that support it as I've ever been. I dread to think who we will end up with now. Spot on. I wouldn't be so disappointed if there was an obvious candidate to come in, but I can't see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 we will now lose pemberton and burt who came to work with him. Jet will also leave as he prefers to work under SOD who is the only man who knows how to get the best out of him. back to square one just as we were about to turn the corner. Who ever the new manager is will not play the youth and will not get on with JET. Very bad ecision by the board again and I can only see it getting worse. Disgraceful decision. Sorry but your assuming an awful lot, any way you can back your drivel up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 great all the SOD haters have got there wish, i for 1 am gutted as slowly but surely the progress was coming. we are right back to square 1 again now with a huge downward spiral on its way. thanks sean and best of luck Just as the Del haters got their wish. And the Millen haters. And the Johnson haters. It has nothing to do with people hating him, and everything to do with a record that reads 7 wins in 38 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Threshersleftboot Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 The one constant in all of these appallinging managerial appointments is the board they have continually showed a complete lack of judgement in their selection of managers i think it is time they did the honourable thing and disappeared as quickly as possible i would much prefer people to be running our club with some real football knowledge because as has been proved over the previous years it doesent matter how much money you throw at it if you dont know what you are doing you will not be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 4 choices: 1) Proven Manager at this level: e.g. SO'D mark 2 2) Young up and coming manager: U18s coach etc 3) Old Boy: Carey, Murray etc 4) Big name: Colin, Di Canio, Skeletor Can't see the point in option 1, SOD was proven and couldn't succeed, option2 massively risky, option 3 would be a disaster, unless maybe Tinnion has learned a thing or 2, I think it will be option 4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Press conference at midday by Jon Lansdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 So all that talk of "long-term goals" and "building for the future" was just bullshit? Wtf are you doing Lansdown... As others have pointed out, JET'll be after a move come January I imagine I wonder who the next chump through the door is going to be? ******* joke City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Sums up the board, and why i am no longer going. As I have said they never follow anything through, never stick to a polan, you can go back through my past history saying if they Dump SOD, that will tell you all you need to know about long term planning and their strategy. That is me done now, I won't be going to away games either, i am officially a arm chair supporter until these toss pots and owner are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Bloody hell thought they would keep him till Xmas ,but I realize some thing had to be done now . But not much time for the new man to get loan people in .i think will have to wait to January so will have to go with what we have. Wonder if who ever it is ,they bring back killa and fonts to look at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 You can bet, whoever the next manager is will be a lap dog to the board and Lansdown. It's no secret that SL doesn't get on with SoD... this is his doing imho. I have no faith in this board or SL anymore... in fact I've always doubted their footballing knowledge...not their money. I feel sorry for the next manager having to work with this lot... I hope the fans realise it's the board killing this Club and not the managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Gutted and angry. I've not felt this low about a managerial change since Joe Jordan left for Hearts. It's just a terrible decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH2 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Totally disagree with the decision, 9 points from last 6 games, 1 defeat in seven, progress was being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I am very disappointed that he's gone.Top,Top bloke ,who treats us fans fairly and honestly.He evidently has made mistakes but i felt it was just coming together. Thank you Sean and good luck for the future. As for us ,i am worried,very worried.if the board clock it up this time we are in it up to the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Maybe Tins has a Spanish coach to recommend!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Don't get why let him sign Osborne on loan and sack him next day? Wonder if who he wanted in on loan was blocked by board and he's had enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 You can bet, whoever the next manager is will be a lap dog to the board and Lansdown. It's no secret that SL doesn't get on with SoD... this is his doing imho. I have no faith in this board or SL anymore... in fact I've always doubted their footballing knowledge...not their money. I feel sorry for the next manager having to work with this lot... I hope the fans realise it's the board killing this Club and not the managers. What I have been saying for Years Spud, eventually it is all coming home to roost. **** this club while the Lansdown's are in charge **** them to hell I am done with investing any of my time or money into it while they are in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 No, they werent, read the email. confirming the dismissal. The system remains and is bigger than the head coach. Stop the Blind Panic Then why get rid of the head coach? Surely nothing will change with his dismissal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Red Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 They've done it now probably to give the new man a month to assess the squad before the transfer window opens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Gutted and angry. I've not felt this low about a managerial change since Joe Jordan left for Hearts. It's just a terrible decision. Is JJ at QPR with 'Arry? Worth a call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest billybob Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Bizarre. From the tone and timing of the announcement it would seem that there has been a row and the board have reacted in haste. And now they can repent at leisure. Again. Who would ever want to join this club as head coach/manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Porter Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Well he was right about some weeling and dealing but this wasnt what i suspected. Well at least we dont get this new defender now ! I heard rumours of this ore match Tuesday which is why I haven't posted anything at all since, I was told the board expected us to lose and he would be sacked after the match, of coarse we played peob the best ive seen them this year so that didnt happen directly after the match. Not at all happy to hear this today though And as said it has to be a time critical issue especially with the Crawley job up for grabs as well now Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Excellent decision. Diabolical end record with Doncaster, awful record with us. Attrocious football for 10 months, just wasnt working. Results improved, performances didnt. Bad for our rep and we look like a laughing stock but had to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Is it Johnson time again ? Father or son . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Ashton Red Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 You can bet, whoever the next manager is will be a lap dog to the board and Lansdown. It's no secret that SL doesn't get on with SoD... this is his doing imho. I have no faith in this board or SL anymore... in fact I've always doubted their footballing knowledge...not their money. I feel sorry for the next manager having to work with this lot... I hope the fans realise it's the board killing this Club and not the managers. Exactly this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Totally disagree with the decision, 9 points from last 6 games, 1 defeat in seven, progress was being made. Agree with you completely. The team and formation with this 3-5-2 system was starting to come together. Progress was being made, and now this! I'm appalled and starting to question my loyalty towards the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Is it Johnson time again ? Father or son . Gary wouldn't leave Yeovil would he? Ditto Lee at Oldham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Not happy at all. I'd be amazed if we could get someone with the same pedigree. He inherited a poor squad with no confidence and massive budget issues. SOD might not have done as well as we all hoped but his record shows he is a long-term, not short-term fix. Pity our board didn't have the patience to allow him time on an unenviable task Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 You can bet, whoever the next manager is will be a lap dog to the board and Lansdown. It's no secret that SL doesn't get on with SoD... this is his doing imho. I have no faith in this board or SL anymore... in fact I've always doubted their footballing knowledge...not their money. I feel sorry for the next manager having to work with this lot... I hope the fans realise it's the board killing this Club and not the managers. Spot on. The board are the one constant in the wave after wave of shite we've been fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 What's interesting is the level of criticism of the board and the support for SOD which that implies. What's been more prominent on the forum for much of the season is anti-SOD sentiment, until now. It tends to confirm what many people have said in the past - that moaners are by far the most noisy section of the forum membership and the fan base in general, whereas there is a substantial but largely silent majority who see the sense in retaining SOD and in the overall, long term strategy. I haven't been this despairing or as furious with a City board since Les Kew allowed Joe Jordan to leave without putting up a fight to hold on to him, an episode that preceeded a slow, inevitable decline that it took years to reverse. Lansdown & Co have done the exact opposite of what they've been preaching all season. It indicates an alarming lack of nerve and susceptibility to fan pressure. It bodes ill for the future of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Hoskins on RB reckons Tisdale is his favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Complete madness. We have learnt nothing from the past 5 years. I'm just about at the point of giving up on this clueless club after nearly 50 years of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Hoskins on RB reckons Tisdale is his favourite. Jesus wept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 There must be more to this than meets the eye because it looks like an obviously stupid move. SOS was making progress with huge limitations to his budget. We will have to pay a year of his wages to get rid of him and the new coach will want further turnover of players. Backroom staff will be likely to leave and need to be replaced. All this costing money from a budget that is hugely limited by the 60% cap. If this is just a knee jerk reaction because of results then the board are the ones in the wrong. SOD had the ability to recruit on a budget and it is easy to forget that many of his team are in their first full season of league football. SOD had given hints about this - so it might have been in the offing for a long time. Maybe Gary is coming back?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 You can bet, whoever the next manager is will be a lap dog to the board and Lansdown. It's no secret that SL doesn't get on with SoD... this is his doing imho. I have no faith in this board or SL anymore... in fact I've always doubted their footballing knowledge...not their money. I feel sorry for the next manager having to work with this lot... I hope the fans realise it's the board killing this Club and not the managers. Spot on as usual. Johnson, Coppell, Millen, McInnes, O'Driscoll. There's one constant there. They can't all be bad managers, and a couple of them have since proved that they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Spot on as usual. Johnson, Coppell, Millen, McInnes, O'Driscoll. There's one constant there. They can't all be bad managers, and a couple of them have since proved that they aren't. 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Why all the panic and insults. SOD himself said that if he leaves then the club structure now in place will make sure the approach and strategy will continue and not change. If we were bottom 4 in January, you would all be on here saying how we were replicating last season where we held on too long. We are in a relegation battle, we have to try and get out of it, and after a relegation last year, just maybe a fresh voice is needed. There will now be endless debate about who comes in, with the likes and dislikes of all thrown in. Whoever it is must buy into the system we now have , but also have some ideas about how we get the team up the table. It probably needs, right now, someone with experience. I still think, due to timing, the club have some ideas already. So a new manager every week then? Like the presenters on have I got news for you. Maybe season ticket holders could take it in turns to be manager for a week. Great idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 Lots of scaremongering. I never engaged with Sean at all. I don't think we were turning a corner as some are saying, we may have scraped together some points but they were not earned convincingly. This could be the start of a recovery, Sean's attitude was miserable and so was his style of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seacider Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Great news to me - how on earth could we keep going on the way we were ! Changes start now - at every level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Baffling. Mike Phelan anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Baffling. Mike Phelan anyone? Said this a few weeks ago. Would be a great move IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Just have to wait and see who comes in, knowing the board another cra# signing, but have they learnt and bring in someone with that extra bit of knowledge. Not surprised with the sacking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Within that "1 in 7" were still utter horsesh1t performances and a load of draws. His term with us has been one of failure. Some of the worst standard of football I have seen down there in years. People have said that about all of our last 4 or 5 managers, including GJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lew Veg Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Board is an absolute joke, get JL out just proves who you know and not what you know, why keep sacking manager after manager after manager it just proves it gets you nowhere and as a club we keep proving this, i bet the players are gutted and definitely means JET will be gone as he said he wants to be wherever SOD is. Ridiculous decision we have boards in place to look at the bigger picture, well supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Because the system, Pillars dont directly affect the tactics used on a match day, and formations used. There are other things including personality, results already gotten and so forth. The Coach/manager has always been an interchangable part of the system, even So'D recognised this. New Guy, new ideas that may take us to a better place using the proto system we have to build a better future The new guy may well do that and more, but conversely he may change things for the worse. If what you're saying is within our system the head coaches only role is to pick the team and formation on a Saturday afternoon then it makes no more sense as we've lost 1 in the last 7, i.e. the tactics are starting to work. I fail to see how we can have a long term coaching structure but not a long term attitude to the coaches operating within it? This isn't Burger King where you can replace your chief burger flipper with an advert in the job centre As others have said, there must be more to this than just the results and to be honest, if its pretty much any of the names I've seen mentioned so far, I will seriously question the sanity of this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kelly Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 league 2, here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 The new guy may well do that and more, but conversely he may change things for the worse. If what you're saying is within our system the head coaches only role is to pick the team and formation on a Saturday afternoon then it makes no more sense as we've lost 1 in the last 7, i.e. the tactics are starting to work. I fail to see how we can have a long term coaching structure but not a long term attitude to the coaches operating within it? This isn't Burger King where you can replace your chief burger flipper with an advert in the job centre As others have said, there must be more to this than just the results and to be honest, if its pretty much any of the names I've seen mentioned so far, I will seriously question the sanity of this board Is he available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Shocked generally, I thought the club was slowly building from the bottom up and starting to get the bigger picture correct with its youth policy and playing style, I also liked having a proper manager - some people might like an idiot waving his arms about all day but SOD was an articulate man who if you heard or spoke to, you couldnt help but understand how he knew the game and was very methodical in his ways. But ultimately it is a results business and that stipulates what had to happen despite a recent upturn in performances/results. Whos next....... well I hope its not Warnock or Holloway as this would just divide supporters and its the last thing we need right now. I think we are either going to be looking at a unknown foreigner (perhaps someone that Tinnion has recommended) or someone like Paul Tisdale or Karl Robinson who would be my personal choice. The timing of this does seem strange and it wouldnt suprise me if someone has become available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Some have talked on here of insanity from the Board by sacking SOD. But how insane would it have been to keep a bloke who was taking us down to league 2. No one enjoys someone losing their job. But where I always worked if you do not perform to a standard you are sacked so why should be any different in a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Is he available? We made the last one Vice Chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 league 2, here we come. That was nailed on anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Great news to me - how on earth could we keep going on the way we were ! Changes start now - at every level. Except the board, who are above criticism and responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 They've done it now probably to give the new man a month to assess the squad before the transfer window opens Exactly. In these days of the transfer window the board have to decide to make a change now or never. Either that or we end up living off of crap from the loan market as we have for the last 3 years. Might seem strange after an improved performance, but I guess he was given a minimum points pick up over the 2 home games and failed to get it. Stadium yesterday, so put back to today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Good riddance - all we need now is the board to resign too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OneManMob Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 league 2, here we come. Didn't you hear? SO'D has been sacked, we may not be going to League 2 after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 SOD was willing to put up with large financial restrictions, cut the squad, cut this, cut that, he played our academy players. No manager will take us on with our record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Jesus wept Is that a Spanish coach ? Senor Wept . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I just received the email also Really strange. Maybe there's been a bit of a bust-up behind the scenes? Only explanation I can think of. If this was performances you do it a month ago. Tuesday was one of the better and more balanced performances and against the league leaders. Disagreement on something between SOD and board. Agree with people saying we're completely mis-run in our recruitment of managers. Can't believe JL is still paying lip service to a strategy in his email today. Who is suddenly available now that has made the make this move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinheadface Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Mixed feelings!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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