Holloway (Topics merged)

[Guest Lordofthesouth]

If Holloway was ever accepted City manager I would not only give up on this club, but with football in general.

 

If somebody like that could be welcomed in and cheered by the Ashton Gate crowd, then football as I know it would be dead. While we're at it, why don't change our kit to Pink and Yellow spots and go and play in Cornwall. Because at the end of the day nothing really matters does it?

 

What do we stand for as a club? Because if Holloway could ever be our manager, then I would argue we stand for absolutely nothing. I simply do not understand what the people that want him here see in football in the same way I will never understand Cardiff fans that are happy to play in red.

 

There are plenty of candidates for this job that I don't like and/or think are poor managers, but should they be named I would be fully behind them. But not him. Never.

This the best post have I read. Football used to mean something. Holloway is a good Manager, would do well, but with his background and the rivalry between the clubs this could not happen. A lot of fans on here are not old enough to remember him and the derbies we used to have that he played in. A great point made regarding Cardiff's red shirts. There would be people on here accepting us changing to blue with a new owner so long as we played in the plastic premier league. I long for a city team with a few home grown youngsters playing attractive football and trying their best every game. Accepting Holloway is accepting changing your badge, colours, claiming to support Liverpool or Chelsea or Man United from the comfort of your DFS sofa watching Sky! Those people are not real football fans!

[Guest i hate rovers]

 fck hollaway...imagine if he became manager and we went down.....no way id rather become a muslim..that will be me and bcfc finished once and for all.

[TRL]

Hope someone from the club is reading this, in case they are about to make yet another appalling decision

[Aizoon]

Hope someone from the club is reading this, in case they are about to make yet another appalling decision

You think it might encourage them to do so?

[Aizoon]

I would very much support the appointment of Ian Holloway.

If he came without the baggage, so would I. I honestly believe there'd be blood on the terraces (well, the EE anyway) if he got the job.

[LondonBristolian]

Has nobody followed Holloway's career over the past couple of years?  Stuff the Rovers connection - the guy admitted to losing enthusiasm for the game at Blackpool and threw the towel in at Palace when he realised he no longer had the appetite for it.  The guy badly, badly, badly needs a rest.

 

I'd be shocked if he was back in management this season and reckon it'd be a disaster wherever he went.  Much like the old problem with signing journeymen players, we simply cannot afford to appoint a manager based on their success three or four years ago and completely disregard their recent record.

[fka dagest]

I'm adding Warnock and Cloggerill to your list of one.

 

I've never felt so disillusioned with BCFC as I do now and that's not helped by JL's insistence that an intangible attribute like 'passion' is at the top of his priorities for the manager... 

 

If they get this wrong it's gonna take something odd to happen for me to feel the same way about the club and those destroying running it.

 

What should the top priority be?  Coaching. tactical nous or grandiose philosophising?  SOD apparently excelled in all those and proved to be crap.  I think just a smattering of passion can go a long way.

[LondonBristolian]

What should the top priority be?  Coaching. tactical nous or grandiose philosophising?  SOD apparently excelled in all those and proved to be crap.  I think just a smattering of passion can go a long way.

 

"Passion" is a buzzword people who know nothing about football use to describe an imaginary quality.  In answer to your question, I'd say the ability to motivate players and tactical awareness to get the best out of a limited group on limited resources.

[The Chaplain]

This the best post have I read. Football used to mean something. Holloway is a good Manager, would do well, but with his background and the rivalry between the clubs this could not happen. A lot of fans on here are not old enough to remember him and the derbies we used to have that he played in. A great point made regarding Cardiff's red shirts. There would be people on here accepting us changing to blue with a new owner so long as we played in the plastic premier league. I long for a city team with a few home grown youngsters playing attractive football and trying their best every game. Accepting Holloway is accepting changing your badge, colours, claiming to support Liverpool or Chelsea or Man United from the comfort of your DFS sofa watching Sky! Those people are not real football fans!

I'm struggling to understand this, it all seems a bit arbitrary to me, these 'few home grown youngsters' presumably would've have to have supported City growing up, not the other lot, and the other non-home grown players, who might they be allowed to have supported or played for? And any new owner, how far afield could he be from, Swindon? London? I can't even begin to think how 'attractive football' might be measured or who is to determine what 'trying their best' looks like, there are many here who automatically assume any defeat is pretty much due to a casual attitude or general laziness.  Overall I can't help thinking this is a fantasy far removed from any possible reality.

[red colin]

a bit like Alan Walsh scenario I'd imagine ?!

If he took blackpool or crystal palace or leicester OR bristol city to play rovers do you think he would want to beat them and beat them well .i do its what he does ,and i think he is pretty good at it and would be proud to be back in his home town.

[fka dagest]

"Passion" is a buzzword people who know nothing about football use to describe an imaginary quality.  In answer to your question, I'd say the ability to motivate players and tactical awareness to get the best out of a limited group on limited resources.

 

I tend to agree with you although I don't agree that passion is entirely nebulous.  We've all recognised it in particular players in the past.  I could mention Hartley, Carey or Sean Taylor for example.  

 

What we do want is a manager that ticks as many boxes as possible.  And for me that does include a passion box as well.

[TRL]

You think it might encourage them to do so?

Some of their decision making, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was appointed, they are great at making completely the wrong decision, followed by attempts to back track out of it, making it a bigger mess.

[The Casual Connoisseur]

I'll go once to Ashton Gate if he gets appointed, I'll get on the pitch and forcibly put my ticket down the scrawny gas ***** throat and my relationship with this club.

#notoholloway

[TRL]

I'll go once to Ashton Gate if he gets appointed, I'll get on the pitch and forcibly put my ticket down the scrawny gas ***** throat and my relationship with this club.

#notoholloway

Good point, I may pay my last ever visit to do something similar, unfortunately it would have to be the potd ticket

 

it will be a nice knowing you Bristol City from me

[reddogkev]

This entire four pages of this thread is bizarre.  Why on earth would a manager like Ian Holloway ever wish to drop to our position?  If he ever accepted a job here I would immediately question his objective... the annihilation of our club.

[Super]

This entire four pages of this thread is bizarre.  Why on earth would a manager like Ian Holloway ever wish to drop to our position?  If he ever accepted a job here I would immediately question his objective... the annihilation of our club.

Just a coincidence he was at the Sheffield United game Saturday I expect.

[phantom]

Just a coincidence he was at the Sheffield United game Saturday I expect.

he wasn't, that was a wind up started on Facebook

[phantom]

[Maesknoll Red]

Would be delighted at his appointment - should it happen.

 

He is a professional. You do a job for money.

 

Ask yourself - if you found yourself out of work - would you not take a job on offer, because you may 20 years ago have not liked the company???

 

I know I would. If I was a football coach, I would happily work for Bristol Rovers or Cardiff City if the money is right.

 

Ask Marcus Stewart, ask Alan Walsh, ask John Ward etc

Totally different, to the best of my knowledge, none of them acted unprofessionally and insulted the other club and its fans, Hollowhead has done this on more than one occasion, he is a sag, not a professional who played for them without predujice, if you don't understand the ill feeling that it would cause amongst many City fans, then I guess it would be impossible to explain further.

[TRL]

Would be delighted at his appointment - should it happen.

 

He is a professional. You do a job for money.

 

Ask yourself - if you found yourself out of work - would you not take a job on offer, because you may 20 years ago have not liked the company???

 

I know I would. If I was a football coach, I would happily work for Bristol Rovers or Cardiff City if the money is right.

 

Ask Marcus Stewart, ask Alan Walsh, ask John Ward etc

Stewart, Walsh and Ward are completely different.

 

Anyway, moot point he pretty much stated he would never join us, he dislikes us enough not to come, and for his own safety (unfortunately)  he shouldn't come.

[Forza Revolution]

Holloway or cotterill ?

[TRL]

Totally different, to the best of my knowledge, none of them acted unprofessionally and insulted the other club and its fans, Hollowhead has done this on more than one occasion, he is a sag, not a professional who played for them without predujice, if you don't understand the ill feeling that it would cause amongst many City fans, then I guess it would be impossible to explain further.

This he gets very very personal towards city fans when there are no cameras or sound recorders around.  Naivity when he was young allowed himself to show part of his true colours

[TRL]

Marcus Stewart spent his whole childhood supporting Bristol City FC.

He then chose to play for Bristol Rovers.

 

It's the same thing only opposite.

 

For goodness sake, are we basing it on a silly thing he said in the heat of the moment when a fair few of us weren't even born?

No, you clearly have had no dealings with him. Read my reply to maesknoll red.

 

the bloke is calculated.

[IdliketoRogerMoore]

Marcus Stewart spent his whole childhood supporting Bristol City FC.

He then chose to play for Bristol Rovers.

It's the same thing only opposite.

For goodness sake, are we basing it on a silly thing he said in the heat of the moment when a fair few of us weren't even born?

ill explain like this it's like letting your worst enemy sleep with your wife because your might get a new car out of it! It would never happen this should never happen!

[TRL]

Or there is something more recent -

 

"Will it mean a bit more to you if you do it today?"

 

"Why?"

"Beating Bristol City and being a Rovers man?"

"I'm a Blackpool man. Bristol City are a good side and its going to be tough. They're a team from my hometown, he's got them playing some nice stuff and good luck to them. We just need to be firm and keep our heads. They're just opponents, nothing more."

 

Ian Holloway

Blackpool v Bristol City

Yep a Skeletor media answer, not a skeletor answer when the cameras are not rolling.  The bloke is a complete arse

[Aizoon]

ill explain like this it's like letting your worst enemy sleep with your wife because your might get a new car out of it! It would never happen this should never happen!

I wouldn't want my worst enemy to sleep with my wife. No, hang on, that doesn't sound right...

[TRL]

I wouldn't want my worst enemy to sleep with my wife. No, hang on, that doesn't sound right...

I'd like Holloway to sleep with your hedgehog, maybe the ***** can be *****ed!

[Maesknoll Red]

 

For goodness sake, are we basing it on a silly thing he said in the heat of the moment when a fair few of us weren't even born?

Do you have the same take on Gengis Ghan, Hitler, Mao........ You weren't born when they inflicted their regimes on people.

Plenty of us were born and witnessed the sag ******* goading and insulting us, I would be totally shocked if he even considered managing us, should the board be stupid enough to offer him the position.

[IdliketoRogerMoore]

I'd like Holloway to sleep with your hedgehog, maybe the ***** can be *****ed!

horace should have to live through that

[IdliketoRogerMoore]

horace shouldn't have to live through that

[Aizoon]

horace should have to live through that

I would remind you of Nanny Ogg's song "The hedgehog cannot be bu99ered at all".

[TRL]

So only when no cameras are around eh?

I'll go with what I have seen him say and how he has behaved.

 

And I applauded him when he came out at AG and he applauded the stand back by the way.

 

Pretty sure you (like me) did and said some things in the past that we regret. Particularly 23 years ago.

23 years ago 15 years ago 7, 3 and 2 years ago, he hasn't changed.  He would like you to believe he has, unfortunately I have been on the end of it twice and witnessed it the other times.  Only once  was what he said warranted.  So i will go with my personal experience of the guy, over the media trained version of the guy.

[Maesknoll Red]

Godwin's Law (1990)

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison being drawn upon or involving Adolf Hitler or Nazis approaches. Given enough time, no matter what the subject or the scope somebody will make a reference to Hitler"

So who's law relates to Genghis Ghan?

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

 

Ask yourself - if you found yourself out of work - would you not take a job on offer, because you may 20 years ago have not liked the company???

 

I know I would. If I was a football coach, I would happily work for Bristol Rovers or Cardiff City if the money is right.

 

Even if it would massively piss off the people who love you? What about if a sizeable number of Rovers and Cardiff fans really don't like you, would that be an issue? remember you could find yourself in line for a better paid job somewhere else if you just sit tight and wait for the enevitable vacancies to appear.

As for Marcus Stewart, I doubt he publicly slagged off the Gas before going there. Neither Alan Walsh or John Ward are actual fans of City or Rovers, you can compare them to Holloway.

A lot of us really don't want him here and I don't believe for one second he would come, I'd be amazed if he's even been approached.

[TRL]

I would remind you of Nanny Ogg's song "The hedgehog cannot be bu99ered at all".

CMOT Dibbler better feed him up (Holloway) before he gets here, just to ensure we never see his like at AG

[Cambridge Batch Red]

So only when no cameras are around eh?

I'll go with what I have seen him say and how he has behaved.

And I applauded him when he came out at AG and he applauded the stand back by the way.

Pretty sure you (like me) did and said some things in the past that we regret. Particularly 23 years ago.

Gas

[Aizoon]

CMOT Dibbler better feed him up (Holloway) before he gets here, just to ensure we never see his like at AG

Who do you think is MD of Lindley's?

[And Its Smith]

If he was appointed the most effective way to protest would be to never attend a game and that is what I would do.

My next game would be the first after he is sacked. I'd rather have Pulis or Coppell back.

[Jesus]

Do you have the same take on Gengis Ghan, Hitler, Mao........ You weren't born when they inflicted their regimes on people.

Plenty of us were born and witnessed the sag ******* goading and insulting us, I would be totally shocked if he even considered managing us, should the board be stupid enough to offer him the position.

Please tell me you haven't just compared people who killed milions of innocent human beings to someone giving out some banter.

Jesus Christ some people need to get a real life. I remember some kid calling me a poo-poo head once in play group in about 1988. Going by this thread, maybe I should still hold a grudge.

[TRL]

Who do you think is MD of Lindley's?

:laugh:, I never gave it a thought, it isall making sense now.

 

Vetinari living in Guernsey now?

[054123]

If Holloway was appointed, I would wish the club every success, but would not pay to watch them during his tenure. If city went on to conquer Europe, it would makeme immensely proud but I detest the bloke, his history and what he stands.

Growing up following city nIn the 80s the rivalry meant to much to me and maybe that his lost on some of our younger or more vanilla fans. Its a principle I will stick too and I would be letting myself down if I attended a game with him in charge.I choose to draw the line there and would be a coward to cross.

I vehemently despise Bristol Rovers and despise Ian Holloway. 

[Aizoon]

, I never gave it a thought, it isall making sense now.

Vetinari living in Guernsey now?

No. Vetinari is competent. Tiberius, perhaps?

[Rich_s]

Sorry if already posted. Can't keep up with the volume of posts on here.

Personally I think Horace is more likely to be appointed City manager than Holloway but:

 

http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Ian-Holloway-replace-Sean-O-Driscoll-Bristol-City/story-20235868-detail/story.html

[TRL]

No matter who was employed as our Manager I would just have to accept it, I could not just sat 'that's it I'm off, as much as I may want to it wouldn't work, as it wouldn't I suppose all that say that's it, no more City, I mean how can you turn your back on real family?

 

Loyalty is what makes us City fans, we are not plastic supporters , not the supporters of a team that won the Premier League last May, and switching to the team that look like winning it this May...We are in for the long ride wherever we are taken and whoever is in charge at the time.   

 

So enough of this BS about not going, won't listen on the radio etc etc, 'cus you know you will that's why you are a  City fan and not Man U, Chelsea or whoever next .

Not true, I am not going while the Lansdowns are in charge, and I haven't been since I made that statement.  if holloway comes in, that is away games off the list as well. That is how much I feel about it.

 

Is is everything any city supporter should despise

[TRL]

No. Vetinari is competent. Tiberius, perhaps?

Maybe Rincewind, he occasionally lucks out (Johnson)  but is inept, but the shite never sticks!

[054123]

No matter who was employed as our Manager I would just have to accept it, I could not just sat 'that's it I'm off, as much as I may want to it wouldn't work, as it wouldn't I suppose all that say that's it, no more City, I mean how can you turn your back on real family?

 

Loyalty is what makes us City fans, we are not plastic supporters , not the supporters of a team that won the Premier League last May, and switching to the team that look like winning it this May...We are in for the long ride wherever we are taken and whoever is in charge at the time.   

 

So enough of this BS about not going, won't listen on the radio etc etc, 'cus you know you will that's why you are a  City fan and not Man U, Chelsea or whoever next .

Are sheep loyal to the shepherd?

Show some real passion and ask yourself what does it mean to be a fan.

If anything the blind following and lack of understanding dies make you sound like a dustant utd fan.

[Aizoon]

Sorry if already posted. Can't keep up with the volume of posts on here.

Personally I think Horace is more likely to be appointed City manager than Holloway but:

http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Ian-Holloway-replace-Sean-O-Driscoll-Bristol-City/story-20235868-detail/story.html

Horace would certainly get a better reaction from the City faithful, but he's currently unavailable. Maybe in March when we sack the next manager and he comes out of hibernation.

[054123]

The blokes a flat out cock. Why would you want him as manager?

[Guest officialandvague]

And that should be enough argument for anybody

 

Just trying to draw a comparison between Rangers signing a player because of his ability inspite of his background and opposition from fans. Holloway has moved on from R****s in his life and career, seems some on here need to do likewise.

[Maesknoll Red]

Please tell me you haven't just compared people who killed milions of innocent human beings to someone giving out some banter.

Jesus Christ some people need to get a real life. I remember some kid calling me a poo-poo head once in play group in about 1988. Going by this thread, maybe I should still hold a grudge.

No, reread the thread, its about forgiving someone, just because it happened sometime ago - before the poster was born, extreme examples, but thats all they are, we all know that hollowhead is far worse than any of those historic dictators.........

[TRL]

Because he could do a good job for the club as manager.

He could equally do a shite job. his record is as bad as it is good, added to the jumping ship qualities he has when stating he is happy where he is.

 

Not only is he rightly disliked by a lot of city fans, he is disliked by many other fans for poor management and lying about his true intentions.

 

Steer well clear

[054123]

Because he could do a good job for the club as manager.

For god sake have some dignity and backbone.

[bcfctim]

This is all completely irrelevant as he would never come here anyway. Quite apart from his gas connections why would he come to a struggling league 1 club when they'll be championship teams queuing up for his signature.

His name hasn't even been mentioned for the Crawley or Notts County jobs, he's only in the "running" because it would make an interesting story.

[bcfctim]

And he could, alas as demonstrated on here by those that are less than insightful of what is needed, but prefer to put petty spite in front of common sense is only to apparent.

I have said it before it is one of the reasons we are where we are, some are so stuck in the past it's embarrassing, glad I got out of Bristol all those years ago. I might have turned out narrow minded and obsessed with the Rovers too.

Would you say Cardiff fans who protested their colour change were also narrow minded? Just curious as to where you'd draw the line?

[phantom]

I believe The Kaiser has the ability to fish better than Captain Birdseye!

NO TRUE CITY FAN COULD POSSIBLY BE SO DELUDED TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY PUT ABOVE..

Have people really forgotten the vitriol he had toward us?!?!

[Carey 6]

"Where I come from we have the Gas and the Shit. If you want me to call Brighton the Shit I will"

Holloway last year...

[TRL]

And he could, alas as demonstrated on here by those that are less than insightful of what is needed, but prefer to put petty spite in front of common sense is only to apparent.

 

I have said it before it is one of the reasons we are where we are, some are so stuck in the past it's embarrassing, glad I got out of Bristol all those years ago. I might have turned out narrow minded and obsessed with the Rovers too.

Not really, if that were the case Ward would never have been accepted, I keep seeing this argument rattled out.  The point is he is anast piece of work

 

His career is a mixed bag

 

Took rovers from promotion certs to 7th place

Relegated QPR

Promoted QPR

Garden leave by QPR for courting Leicester

Sacked QPR

Plymouth  mid table

Resigns from plymouth after saying he was happy there  for Leicester

Joins Leicester

Relegates Leicester resigns

Joins Blackpool, promotes Blackpool

Relegates Blackpool

Gets Blackpool to playoffs

Resigns from Blackpool

Joins Palace, gets them up, but nearly blew it

Buys loads of players who he does not rate or can control then resigns.

 

Mixed bag, far more negatives than positives.  Yet people seem to want to blow sunshine out of his arse for a promotion with Blackpool and his gung ho approach to the Premier League team for 1 season.... which ended in relegation 

[TRL]

3 promotions....

 

Fine by me.

3 relegations, not so fine, like I say mixed bag, but negatives (such as courting other teams twice) out weigh the positives.

 

Then add his dislike of City and City fans into the mix, and it sure is a match made in heaven!

[Keep Calm]

No Holloway here please.

[TRL]

The Blackpool relegation from the Premier League is hardly a failure.

In fact they did bloody well under him in the top tier for the budget they had in comparison.

Relegation not failure? of course it is.  That is just an excuse peddled out.  Notice Swansea stayed up and have improved, enabling them to up their budget.  It is about being aware of tactics, which he isn't, going hell for leather is all well and good, but they lost so many points from winning positions  because of bad decisions from the boss.

 

Relegation is failure, no matter how you want to dress it up.

[Guest Red Ass]

Get him in, quality manager........ end of

[TRL]

I think your personal views of Holloway are clouding you on that one.

 

Blackpool's stint in the Premier League under him was impressive and they played some nice football - shook up some of the big boys.

 

All on a budget of 1/100th of them.

How can it be clouded, they were relegated, good football or not.  I never disputed the football they played up there was good on the eye.  And clearly financially with parachute payments they must surely be minted now.  But Money doesn't buy success, you need the tactics nous and team spirit to be winners.  And some of those were missing,  a little more know how and he could have kept them up,  they had a cracking start to the campaign which should have been enough.

 

I don't like the bloke, that is clear, but people rattle out BS abouthim being a great manager, his record shows he is equally adept at in fact moreso of screwing over clubs and equal relegations to promotion.  That doesn't say great manager that say erratic inconsistent manger to me

[And Its Smith]

Let's look at his jobs:

Bristol Rovers - play offs, mid table, sacked. FAIL

QPR - relegated, promoted, mid table, sacked. EVENS

Plymouth - quit to go to Leicester and later admitted to being dishonest - FAIL

Leicester - relegated, sacked - FAIL

Blackpool - promoted, relegated, play offs, left. - SUCCESS

Crystal Palace - promoted, left. EVENS

To qualify the last one, he signed so many players in the summer and made a right mess of things and then resigned as he couldn't handle it. Hardly an overall success.

So, one success out of six.

Amazing that some fans want this man at our club.

[TRL]

Let's look at his jobs:

Bristol Rovers - play offs, mid table, sacked. FAIL

QPR - relegated, promoted, mid table, sacked. EVENS

Plymouth - quit to go to Leicester and later admitted to being dishonest - FAIL

Leicester - relegated, sacked - FAIL

Blackpool - promoted, relegated, play offs, left. - SUCCESS

Crystal Palace - promoted, left. EVENS

To qualify the last one, he signed so many players in the summer and made a right mess of things and then resigned as he couldn't handle it. Hardly an overall success.

So, one success out of six.

Amazing that some fans want this man at our club.

It matters not, only Blackpool counts apparently!

[bearded_red]

Let's look at his jobs:

Bristol Rovers - play offs, mid table, sacked. FAIL

QPR - relegated, promoted, mid table, sacked. EVENS

Plymouth - quit to go to Leicester and later admitted to being dishonest - FAIL

Leicester - relegated, sacked - FAIL

Blackpool - promoted, relegated, play offs, left. - SUCCESS

Crystal Palace - promoted, left. EVENS

To qualify the last one, he signed so many players in the summer and made a right mess of things and then resigned as he couldn't handle it. Hardly an overall success.

So, one success out of six.

Amazing that some fans want this man at our club.

But he's a City boy through and through and he'd have passion for this club.

Oh no, my mistake. He's odious gas scum who shouldn't be allowed in BS3.

[Harry]

Ian Holloway is a Bristol Rovers fan who has openly stated his hatred of Bristol City Football Club and it's Supporters.

 

Hopefully that should be enough for us to make up our minds on this one.

 

Taking it to the extreme, I wouldn't expect President Ahmadinejad of Iran to rock up as the President of the USA any time soon!

 

I'm not sure a lot of our fans truly "get it" here.

Of all the people I personally know who are City fans (and I'd safely number that in the 200-300 bracket, maybe more) I don't know a single one who would attend Ashton Gate if this maggot was in charge.

 

Call me small-minded or whatever you want.  He hates City, and I despise him.  Not just based on his footballing persona/history/allegience, but I have had personal dealings with the maggot and I can safely share with you all that he is a 100% confirmed a-hole.

 

Hope that's clear.

[Fiale]

Who do you think is MD of Lindley's?

Still don't understand how Lindleys got our custom.. Surely the club should be using local firms and produce... Not an international American owned firm.

[B1ackbird]

I'm with you H..

 

FTG...

 

I'd prefer Mickey Bell to Holloway...

 

 

Every time...

[B1ackbird]

And we got im cheap.....

 

[054123]

Fool, I have been supporting City since well let's say over 55 years, seen many managers come and go, good times bad times, I am a true City diehard, you will just be a fickle fan who bottles it,  and you say I am a 'dustant' ? Utd fan?

 

What it means to be a fan?

 

You wouldn't know, obviously...

Oh but I do understand what it means to support your club and everything you believe it to stand for, its history and heritage.

Which is why john ward will always receive a clap from me and I enjoyed his tenure, Holloway is a nasty piece of gas scum who would se the club you love go down the pan with a smile on his face and a beer in his hand.

If you dont know or cant see that I would genuinely question what you have been doing in your 55 year reign.

I cant believe how quickly people sell out and for go any kind of principles. The bloke openly doesnt like you or your club and if he wasnt a professional footballer would've been escorted past the miners to n sep 4th calling you a ******.