spudski Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 .... Forest fans were not wrong... it's like listening to a 'fan' rather than a manager... How have gone from an intelligent manager like SoD to this... it's like listening to some Wurzel just out of school... This is not inspiring at all... I'm sat here cringing... sounds like he's on the back foot already...it's awful to listen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 This forum will be like a breath of fresh air when all the SOD lovers have left. Give the new man a chance FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 No member of the board answering questions then. Spineless the lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 That was short and sweet, nothing from Schlockhousen, was he ahem somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 It's not about SoD... it's about the board... As Super has just said... spineless... not one of them wanted to speak... they even said at the beginning of the start of the interview that they thought Cotterill was their on his own... they must have been friggin hiding... what an absolute shower they are. What Board doesn't speak to the press on introduction and publicly welcomes them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Each to their own I guess. But I found him a lot more easy on the ear than some dour mumbling sniffing black country prophet of passing football theory. Time will tell, but he doesn't have to do much to improve things does he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 That was short and sweet, nothing from Schlockhousen, was he ahem somewhere else? Why would Stockhausen take part in a press conference for radio and TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 It's not about SoD... it's about the board... As Super has just said... spineless... not one of them wanted to speak... they even said at the beginning of the start of the interview that they thought Cotterill was their on his own... they must have been friggin hiding... what an absolute shower they are. What Board doesn't speak to the press on introduction and publicly welcomes them? It is embarrassing that neither Keith or Jon were there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 It is embarrassing that neither Keith or Jon were there. I thought RH said on the radio they walked into the room with him. Which makes it even more embarrassing that they didn't step up to answer questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeysrobins Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Oh dear he likes to blow his own trumpet doesn't he!! Sounds like a fan who got lucky one day and ended up managing the local football league team!! Cringe!! Sounds like he's going to do things his way whether we like it or not!! The Five Pillars have been shoved to one side! 3 and half years though!!! Ouch!!! A rolling contract maybe but this is definitely a helping out a 'best mate' inside job with no thoughts for the feelings of fans once again!! Just watching John Gregory being interviewed on Sky Sports. Just so much easier on the ears..........jealous of Crawley.......Aaaagggahhhhhhh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I thought RH said on the radio they walked into the room with him. Which makes it even more embarrassing that they didn't step up to answer questions. Looking at a pic tweeted by Ali Durden it was just Adam Baker sat with SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeysrobins Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 JL needed to face the music!! Cotterill shoved in front of the cameras with no sense of pride or pleasure in announcing it!! If it's done later - it's too late!! You have to do it there and then if you are supporting your convictions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Looking at a pic tweeted by Ali Durden it was just Adam Baker sat with SC They were in the room just not sat at the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sambo Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Looks like there's about half a dozen reporters there and surely Adam Baker is praying that there isn't any questions asking where JL is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bedminster Born And Red Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 .... Forest fans were not wrong... it's like listening to a 'fan' rather than a manager... How have gone from an intelligent manager like SoD to this... it's like listening to some Wurzel just out of school... This is not inspiring at all... I'm sat here cringing... sounds like he's on the back foot already...it's awful to listen too. It's a shame that all this "intelligence" SOD had could not be used to produce a better record of results whilst he was at teh club. Perhaps you should meet the guy first, like you seem to have met all the other movers and shakers in football, before you cast aspersions on his lack of intelligence. Or do you judge intelligence simply on accent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Sounded fine to me. Lets back him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Why would Stockhausen take part in a press conference for radio and TV? The clue is PRESS conference.Just thought he Might be interested, if only to ask him if he fancied a pint ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 In response to Keepers Grandad... who mentioned accent? I was listening to the words coming out of his mouth. He sounded like someone struggling to put an intelligent sentence together. And for your information... I have met him... twice at Cheltenham. He's definitely 'one of the lads'... If that's how you like your managers... your choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 That was short and sweet, nothing from Schlockhousen, was he ahem somewhere else? Well, the pubs are open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 The clue is PRESS conference.Just thought he Might be interested, if only to ask him if he fancied a pint ! There are one-on-one interviews straight after for papers, so it said on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Cotterill has got lots of experience, I hope people give him a chance and judge him on results. Lets face it the fans thought the last couple of appointments were good and they didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 talking a good game doesn't win you football matchs it just deludes weak minded people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 So he's suddenly gone from a mumbling ,boring Brummie, to an intelligent articulate orator, has he/? Unbelievable. Sorry, I never realised that you could either be intelligent or boring, but not both. Clearly his interview demeanour didn't do him any favours, but anyone who took the time to read his programme notes could see that Sean O'Driscoll was clearly an intelligent man. Does that excuse his poor record? Of course not. But based on this morning's press conference, City under Cotterill scares me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'm as disaponted as many seem to be. We all know SOD had an unacceptable record but I still believe in the long term he would have done well especially after the performance against Orient as the balance looked good. Now we are stuck with Cotterill. Hope he does well but can't see it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cider_dog Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'll give him a chance, he deserves the benefit of the doubt. But I feel a sense of impending doom already... My concern at this early stage is around how the squad has been drilled (albeit with relative failure) into a structured and disciplined style of play by SOD. They are relativity inexperienced and I believe really bought into what SOD was trying to achieve. Now (presumably) our style will be more direct and physical. Which is not that compatible with the type of players we have in the squad at present. I am often wrong though, so the play offs could be realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'm as disaponted as many seem to be. We all know SOD had an unacceptable record but I still believe in the long term he would have done well especially after the performance against Orient as the balance looked good. Now we are stuck with Cotterill. Hope he does well but can't see it myself. Perhaps. But I think the performance against Preston would have been no diferent if SOD was there. We all thought we would kick on after Carlisle and we didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 .... Forest fans were not wrong... it's like listening to a 'fan' rather than a manager... How have gone from an intelligent manager like SoD to this... it's like listening to some Wurzel just out of school... This is not inspiring at all... I'm sat here cringing... sounds like he's on the back foot already...it's awful to listen too. Have you heard the majority of the Bristol population? Other fans sing songs about us being thick wurzels, you are now using it as insult about our new manager before hes even had a game in charge? Who needs enamys ay...? Laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Perhaps. But I think the performance against Preston would have been no diferent if SOD was there. We all thought we would kick on after Carlisle and we didn't. I agree and we played reasonably at Preston (remember they are almost as high as Orient) so there were encouraging signs and I think the results would have come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I agree and we played reasonably at Preston (remember they are almost as high as Orient) so there were encouraging signs and I think the results would have come. Two shots on target is not my definition of reasonable, Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Two shots on target is not my definition of reasonable, Alex. I was there and we did play reasonably as I said. It was the only the first 20 minutes or so that preston dominated. The 2nd half we just missed that cutting edge JET normally gives us and as you point out that translated in to a low shots on target count. Very disapointed we didn't persevere with SOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 .... Forest fans were not wrong... it's like listening to a 'fan' rather than a manager... How have gone from an intelligent manager like SoD to this... it's like listening to some Wurzel just out of school... This is not inspiring at all... I'm sat here cringing... sounds like he's on the back foot already...it's awful to listen too. 1. Who cares what forest fans think 2. Who cares what he sounds like, he's a football manager, most of them are from working class backgrounds. I'm glad he sounds like a wurzel he'll fit right in. 3. "Sat here cringing" - have a word with yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I was there and we did play reasonably as I said. It was the only the first 20 minutes or so that preston dominated. The 2nd half we just missed that cutting edge JET normally gives us and as you point out that translated in to a low shots on target count. Very disapointed we didn't persevere with SOD. You're missing the point slightly. We played quite well against Colchester, Shrewsbury etc. yet had a tiny number of shots and a tiny number of goal scoring opportunities. The aim of the game is to out score the opposition, not pass it about in our own half for 90 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I agree and we played reasonably at Preston (remember they are almost as high as Orient) so there were encouraging signs and I think the results would have come. Listening on the radio it seemed reasonable. But the fans who went on here said it was dyer. I thought results would come aswell up untill that Shef Utd performace. To many false dawns. Anyway this thread isn't about SOD. Not exctatic with the appointment, but by the sounds of the interview I think he'll do ok. Time will tell, but I'm already looking more forward to the next home game than I have in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 You're missing the point slightly. We played quite well against Colchester, Shrewsbury etc. yet had a tiny number of shots and a tiny number of goal scoring opportunities. The aim of the game is to out score the opposition, not pass it about in our own half for 90 mins. No I understand that too and against Orient we had 19 shots at goal I think but failed to win. The main thing for me that I thought SOD was creating a platform for things to turn round long term. I could understand if he was sacked and someone else came in who could just get us to become a little better at getting results but keep the same sort of style/team etc. But we will know go to a long ball style and take out all the flair players if Forest fans are to be believed. On that basis I think SOD shouldn't have been sacked for a little bit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Listening on the radio it seemed reasonable. But the fans who went on here said it was dyer. I thought results would come aswell up untill that Shef Utd performace. To many false dawns. Only a few fans said it was dire. Most said we were unlucky not to get a point, including Preston fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 It's not about his Accent... it's the words coming out of his mouth... You can be intelligent and working class... it has nothing to do with accent... Straight away... comments like... 'yeah I've worked with Pembo'... and such like... reinforce everything I already knew about this chap. He's one of the 'lads'... it's not a culture I think this club need to go back to. A bit of respect goes a long way...all this 'geezer' mullarky is so third division old skool... I remember seeing this 'style' in the players lounge when GJ was in charge... the culture it breeds is not one I liked... Certain players and coaches will be as pleased as punch at this appointment though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 No I understand that too and against Orient we had 19 shots at goal I think but failed to win. The main thing for me that I thought SOD was creating a platform for things to turn round long term. I could understand if he was sacked and someone else came in who could just get us to become a little better at getting results but keep the same sort of style/team etc. But we will know go to a long ball style and take out all the flair players if Forest fans are to be believed. On that basis I think SOD shouldn't have been sacked for a little bit longer. 19 shots? I was there and we got lucky with both goals. That leaves 17 speculative punts from 30 yards that flew 10 yards over/wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 19 shots? I was there and we got lucky with both goals. That leaves 17 speculative punts from 30 yards that flew 10 yards over/wide. Not at all. Watch the highlights. We had quite a few decent chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 my initial thoughts were Joe Kinnear. ''I gave Gary Cahill a chance'' ''I gave Jay Rodriquez a chance'' ''I bought Patrick Bamford into the first team''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 19 shots? I was there and we got lucky with both goals. That leaves 17 speculative punts from 30 yards that flew 10 yards over/wide. :laugh:. You sure you went to the right game ? Orient were lucky to get a point that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 . You sure you went to the right game ? Orient were lucky to get a point that night. Erm, BBC says 5 shots on target each. We got a tap in from 2 yards and an OG and they got the goalie error, so who is luckier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 . You sure you went to the right game ? Orient were lucky to get a point that night. except for their perfectly good disaloud goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 People talk about that Leyton Orient game like it was some kind footballing nirvana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 People talk about that Leyton Orient game like it was some kind footballing nirvana. Well compared to some of the other stuff we've seen this season, it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Well compared to some of the other stuff we've seen this season, it was. Trust me it wasn't. It was just a little bit less shit than the week before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Trust me it wasn't. It was just a little bit less shit than the week before. Yeah I mean we only almost beat the team who have barely dropped a point. Shit. It wasn't brilliant but for me and anyone who could get over their anti SOD agenda it was a sign of better to come, a clear turning point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 except for their perfectly good disaloud goal Like ours against Sheff Utd? If you're going to pick and choose facts to back your argument, include them all, pro and con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 It's not about his Accent... it's the words coming out of his mouth... You can be intelligent and working class... it has nothing to do with accent... Straight away... comments like... 'yeah I've worked with Pembo'... and such like... reinforce everything I already knew about this chap. He's one of the 'lads'... it's not a culture I think this club need to go back to. A bit of respect goes a long way...all this 'geezer' mullarky is so third division old skool... I remember seeing this 'style' in the players lounge when GJ was in charge... the culture it breeds is not one I liked... Certain players and coaches will be as pleased as punch at this appointment though... So why refer to him as a wurzel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I was a little confused when his name was first mentioned, but we all must get behind him as we should any manager. I do not understand the comments following his interview on player, he said nothing wrong, he is at least a west country lad, and for those who disliked the dour SOD, he will give some life to the squad. The one comment I noted, was the one about west country lads grow up on rugby, and want their football to be high charge. I totally agree with this, our crowd gets going when we see a team up for it. I have heard for too ing from our recent managers "cannot fault the effort", well if they calculate miles run maybe, but it is some time since we have seen consistently players able to up the pace to get the crowd going. The crowd we do need behind the team, and not falling asleep . My single biggest issue with SOD was not the possession stuff, but the tempo was dire. We allowed teams time to regroup and camp behind the ball. Making our job so hard at AG. You need to turn teams around and get them chasing back IMHO. So we will see. In the end results count, but I do think we will see a marked improvement at our next home game. at least SOD talked sense. The few quotes i've seen of Cotterill's was ''we would've won if they didn't score more than us'' I despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 at least SOD talked sense. The few quotes i've seen of Cotterill's was ''we would've won if they didn't score more than us'' I despair. Isn't that the same as SOD's"if we'd have won 1-0 everyone would be haopy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 In reply to sodbury red... referring to 'wurzel'... or otherwise defined as 'country bumpkin'... 'Speaks or behaves in a manner that indicates a lack of understanding in an ever changing modern (football) world. Most probably ignorant rather than uneducated but can be both.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I remember seeing this 'style' in the players lounge when GJ was in charge... the culture it breeds is not one I liked... If he achieves even a good chunk of what GJ did I would be delighted! Perhaps that style is suited to us, you just never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Firstly declaring myself in the SOD in camp. However, having watched the press conference on the official site I think SC comes across very well. Really don't understand some of the negative comments about his first appearance. Far from getting excited and agree that talk is cheap, but he made all the right noises and will definitely bring some passion. Not sure what else our new gaffer could have done...COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Isn't that the same as SOD's"if we'd have won 1-0 everyone would be haopy". "That's what a 1-0 win looks like" After we drew 1-1 with Oldham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 at least SOD talked sense. The few quotes i've seen of Cotterill's was ''we would've won if they didn't score more than us'' I despair. SOD was honest, brutally honest after each game. He'd openly tell us what the opposition did well, what we did poorly and what we could have done better. The only snag was he never seemed to be able to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 It's not about his Accent... it's the words coming out of his mouth... You can be intelligent and working class... it has nothing to do with accent... Straight away... comments like... 'yeah I've worked with Pembo'... and such like... reinforce everything I already knew about this chap. He's one of the 'lads'... it's not a culture I think this club need to go back to. A bit of respect goes a long way...all this 'geezer' mullarky is so third division old skool... I remember seeing this 'style' in the players lounge when GJ was in charge... the culture it breeds is not one I liked... Certain players and coaches will be as pleased as punch at this appointment though... Spudski has me on ignore so perhaps someone could point out that Cotterill said on his player interview he hadn't worked with Pemberton. Perhaps not listening as much as he'd have us believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cswhitlock Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 just had a quick search as wanted some facts about this guy.... i think he will be a good appointment he is local and also his win ratio is 40.67% over his whole management career which isnt too shabby in comparison to others SOD 35.54% DMC 37.88 and GJ 41.88. so my thoughts for what they are worth we have picked up a good manager that took a 3rd tier of non league club to the top end of what is now lge 1 and has moved around a bit to pick up experience and knowledge so lets give him a crack cos 9yrs ago we would have happily taken this guy but now its all got very bitter at the gate and we all need to back the team the manager and the club COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTR Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 With people talking about accents,all I can say is thank **** we haven't appointed Hollowhead.I mean fancy someone talking with a local accent,outrageous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 .... Forest fans were not wrong... it's like listening to a 'fan' rather than a manager... How have gone from an intelligent manager like SoD to this... it's like listening to some Wurzel just out of school... This is not inspiring at all... I'm sat here cringing... sounds like he's on the back foot already...it's awful to listen too. Who are you - Nicky Maynard? Is there something wrong with a West Country accent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 In reply to Glyn Riley... I gave you the benefit of the doubt and clicked on to see what you said... Cotterill has worked with Burt, Pemberton and Pelling whilst at Forest... so i'll ignore your nit picking and pedantic post, as it was the sentiment rather than the actual words that I was referring too... seems SoD had the same problem by having to say everything in black and white and simple terms... no one reads the sentiment or between the lines these days it seems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Kinnel... another one... Atyeomax... it's not the accent it's the words... google wurzle or country bumpkin and see what it says... Jesus this forum... it's worse than Millwalls and that's saying something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 In reply to Glyn Riley... I gave you the benefit of the doubt and clicked on to see what you said... Cotterill has worked with Burt, Pemberton and Pelling whilst at Forest... so i'll ignore your nit picking and pedantic post, as it was the sentiment rather than the actual words that I was referring too... seems SoD had the same problem by having to say everything in black and white and simple terms... no one reads the sentiment or between the lines these days it seems... Well he has said he hasn't worked with Pemberton but knows him, that is what I heard in the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 when exactly did he take Cheltenham to the top end of lge 1, he must be amazingly versatile considdring he walked out on them during the summer after they won promotion from lge 2, anyway with or without him Cheltenham have never been at the top end of lge 1, the 3 seasons that they have played at that level have all been constant battles against relegation from start to finish, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest osmanyoutool Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 .... Forest fans were not wrong... it's like listening to a 'fan' rather than a manager... How have gone from an intelligent manager like SoD to this... it's like listening to some Wurzel just out of school... This is not inspiring at all... I'm sat here cringing... sounds like he's on the back foot already...it's awful to listen too. nothin wrong soundin like a wurzel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 To Glyn and EMB... you are correct he did say know and not worked with...which I find strange as he was at Forest when he was their. Either way... It was the sentiment...rather than the actual words. I don't know whether anyone else on here has studied body language before... but I've had to do it in the past as I gave interviews. A good way of telling if someone is lying or making something up or covering their tracks, is that they swallow hard, touch their eye, nose, chin or mouth after telling you something. Watch the JL interview and SC interview on youtube... noticed before that JL likes a swallow and SC is a toucher... ooooo errrr missus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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