Super Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 That is some own goal from Kompany!! He would struggle to do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Nice tear of blood down from his eye, clearly idolises our Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstoke Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Suarez, surely the best striker the prem has seen.(he is still a cock though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Altadore one of the worst ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Suarez, surely the best striker the prem has seen.(he is still a cock though). Suarez is probably the best in form striker in the whole world at present. Suarez could be the man to win Liverpool their first Premiership title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Altadore one of the worst ever How long did he take to strike the shot?? he had his head in his hands after as well, definitely not prem quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Suarez, surely the best striker the prem has seen.(he is still a cock though).Henry? He is insane at the minute. It will be interesting to see him up against Kompany on Boxing Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Suarez is certainly red hot at the moment but he'd have to maintain his current form over several seasons to be compared with Thierry Henry and Alan Shearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Suarez is certainly red hot at the moment but he'd have to maintain his current form over several seasons to be compared with Thierry Henry and Alan Shearer. Think he pretty much has kept this form for the past 4 or 5 years. 200 or so goals in about 320 appearences in the Dutch, English and world stage. Still only 26 I think he will massively surpass Shearer. Do well to surpass Henry as I don't see him getting the honours Henry got at international level (although his goal scoring record could easily beat Henry's) That said I think his record is better than Henry's at the same age. As they say, sort out is odd moments when the brain doesn't engage, and the world is his lobster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Thierry Henry averaged a goal every 1.45 games during his 8 year Arsenal career. Very impressive indeed and if Suarez gets near or betters that over the same period then we could confidently say that he was a better striker. Firstly though he has to better Alan Shearers 1 in 2 goal ratio over his entire career including international games. That's also very impressive especially as Shearer only played in one successful season at Blackburn, the rest of his career he played for teams that were very average. Henry on the other hand played in very successful Arsenal team over the entire 8'seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Suarez is certainly red hot at the moment but he'd have to maintain his current form over several seasons to be compared with Thierry Henry and Alan Shearer. Whatever, we can comfortably say that Luis Suarez is the best striker to have appeared at Ashton Gate in the last 30 years. I'm glad I didn't turn back when faced with the massive long queues prior to the City v Ajax game. Luis Suarez scored against us that evening !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Thierry Henry averaged a goal every 1.45 games during his 8 year Arsenal career. Very impressive indeed and if Suarez gets near or betters that over the same period then we could confidently say that he was a better striker. Firstly though he has to better Alan Shearers 1 in 2 goal ratio over his entire career including international games. That's also very impressive especially as Shearer only played in one successful season at Blackburn, the rest of his career he played for teams that were very average. Henry on the other hand played in very successful Arsenal team over the entire 8'seasons. Yup. I think Suarez if his current goals to games ratio continues will fly past shearer (he already is bettering 1 in 2) Henry developed later as well due to being converted to a winger and being a bit part in his early Arsenal Career. Suarez is already smacking both when it comes to goals to games ratio at national level and has already surpassed Shearer's national goal tally at the age of 26. He he carries this form through to 30 he will eclipse both on the stats front I think. I think (Although a diffrrent type of player) he is already better than shearer at the same age. Unless Uruguay suddenly become world beaters I can't see him eclipsing Henry's achivements. But stats wise I think he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yup. I think Suarez if his current goals to games ratio continues will fly past shearer (he already is bettering 1 in 2) Henry developed later as well due to being converted to a winger and being a bit part in his early Arsenal Career. Suarez is already smacking both when it comes to goals to games ratio at national level and has already surpassed Shearer's national goal tally at the age of 26. He he carries this form through to 30 he will eclipse both on the stats front I think. I think (Although a diffrrent type of player) he is already better than shearer at the same age. Unless Uruguay suddenly become world beaters I can't see him eclipsing Henry's achivements. But stats wise I think he can. They don't come around often - players like Suarez - but Luis Suarez and Diego Forlan were instrumental in getting Uruguay to the Semis of the last world cup. Luis Suarez is a brilliant player - true world class - and he's only going to get better the way things stand. By the end of his career he'll be spoken of in the sames terms as Pele and Eusebio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 They don't come around often - players like Suarez - but Luis Suarez and Diego Forlan were instrumental in getting Uruguay to the Semis of the last world cup. Luis Suarez is a brilliant player - true world class - and he's only going to get better the way things stand. By the end of his career he'll be spoken of in the sames terms as Pele and Eusebio.Same terms as Pele? Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Same terms as Pele? Haha Why not? Pele was great in his generation, but never played football outside of Brazil in league tournaments (apart from America i the twilight of his career) He was great on the world stage in WCs in a very good Brazil team. You can only judge players in the era they played in. We will never know if Pele could have adapted to playing in Europe. We don't know if he would have played so well against today's goalies and defenders... not to mention the fitness levels. Likewise, would Suarez live with lack of protection back then? Maybe after all, Uruguay is one of the dirtiest leagues in the world, but maybe not. You can only judge what is put in front of you when you play. He has the potential. Personally, and I have mentioned this before, I think Ruud Gullit is the best payer ever. Only player I know who could play in every single position (other than goal keeper) to a very high level. May not have been the most technically gifted compared to your Cruyff's, Ronaldo's, Messi's and Pele's, but boy he was a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Whatever, we can comfortably say that Luis Suarez is the best striker to have appeared at Ashton Gate in the last 30 years. I'm glad I didn't turn back when faced with the massive long queues prior to the City v Ajax game. Luis Suarez scored against us that evening !!!! It's a close one but I say Samual Eto'o was the best player to play at the gate in recent times when he played for Mallorca. We have also had Ruud Gullit and he has won a European Champoinships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Whatever, we can comfortably say that Luis Suarez is the best striker to have appeared at Ashton Gate in the last 30 years. I'm glad I didn't turn back when faced with the massive long queues prior to the City v Ajax game. Luis Suarez scored against us that evening !!!! Er.... Bas Savage?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Yup. I think Suarez if his current goals to games ratio continues will fly past shearer (he already is bettering 1 in 2) Henry developed later as well due to being converted to a winger and being a bit part in his early Arsenal Career. Suarez is already smacking both when it comes to goals to games ratio at national level and has already surpassed Shearer's national goal tally at the age of 26. He he carries this form through to 30 he will eclipse both on the stats front I think. I think (Although a diffrrent type of player) he is already better than shearer at the same age. Unless Uruguay suddenly become world beaters I can't see him eclipsing Henry's achivements. But stats wise I think he can. You shouldn't really include international goals in an assessment of a player- at major tournaments, perhaps, but both Shearer and Suarez will have scored goals against some terrible international teams Suarez is a fantastic player- an odious human being, but a fantastic footballer. I don't think he'll be at Liverpool next season though (signs a new contract where his wages don't go up fully until next season? That's a team and player hedging their bets if ever I saw one) , so in the long term he'll not beat the records of Henry, Shearer, etc. As for greatest ever, I don't think he's the greatest around at the minute, though he is the best player in the Premier League. I'd say Ronaldo, Messi and Iniesta are better footballers (the latter not really being a fair comparison) but he's not far off. My all time faves are Cantona, Bergkamp, Platini and Van Basten. All technically gifted, all interesting characters and all thought about the game on a different level to those around them. I suspect a lot of that is rose tinted spectacles though I don't think today's footballers will ever be thought of in the same terms as Pele, Eusebio, Pushkas or Di Stefano because modern footballers are recorded from every conceivable angle and stuck up on YouTube. Mystery still shrouds the talents of those men because we've seen so little of them playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Barkley is looking a hell of a player. We have to start him at the world cup as he looks like a real gem for the future, good with both feet and can take on a player with ease. I bet Hodgson goes for Lampard/Gerrard instead though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 Barkley is looking a hell of a player. We have to start him at the world cup as he looks like a real gem for the future, good with both feet and can take on a player with ease. I bet Hodgson goes for Lampard/Gerrard instead though. If they were flying out tomorrow Barkley and Henderson would be on the plane but you don't know if they will have as good a second half to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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