CiderJar Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Personaly I think his comedy is a little "obvious" but the Americans seem to like him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrzs1dfbt6U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Have West Ham been relegated already then? No, who suggested they have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 hink is good with the new fw. We only got SB and Jet, Taylor dont get many games, SB or Jet injuried then we have to put another in. Think Cotteril knows whwats he is doing. Really hope the new player is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 There's a big difference between thinking someone may fail vs wanting them to buddy. This is just exactly the type of signing i hoped we wouldn't be making. Hoping the comments I found from the Posh fans are accurate ones and he's a hit here. At 28 though I'd hope we think very carefully before offering him a long term deal even if he does do well. He's a physical presence up front, and can score goals. 28 or even 29 years of age is fine for any striker on a 2 year contract, look how old Stead is even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's a physical presence up front, and can score goals. 28 or even 29 years of age is fine for any striker on a 2 year contract, look how old Stead is even now. I don't know why everyone is suddenly obsessed with player age. As you say, 28 or 29 is not old by any stretch for a good player. It's very admirable bringing through young players, but there has to be a balance of youth and experience, and Tyrone Barnett - although might not be everyone's first name on the list for new recruits - has experience at this level. Prolific goalscorer he isn't, but that's not exactly his role. I do think however that we certainly won't be accommodating SB, JET and TB on the same teamsheet, so it'll be interesting to see what gives....or whether Cotterill knows something we don't about where JET will be by the time the month is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Fact is after Baldock and JET no other player has more than 3 league goals this season. An injury to either would surely see several on here querying then why we weren't more proactive in January. Also some seem desperate to find a reason to criticise Cotterill, sadly for them adding a third striker proven at this level who gives us a different dimension isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I don't know why everyone is suddenly obsessed with player age. As you say, 28 or 29 is not old by any stretch for a good player. It's very admirable bringing through young players, but there has to be a balance of youth and experience, and Tyrone Barnett - although might not be everyone's first name on the list for new recruits - has experience at this level. Prolific goalscorer he isn't, but that's not exactly his role. I do think however that we certainly won't be accommodating SB, JET and TB on the same teamsheet, so it'll be interesting to see what gives....or whether Cotterill knows something we don't about where JET will be by the time the month is out. Exactly. Not every player can be a young one. Barnett has experience and is proven at this level. The main thing is he is the type of striker we need. It's also rare to be able to find a target man type striker that still weighs in with his fair share of goals as well. I must admit I don't see JET, TB & SB all playing in the same starting 11 on a regular basis. Certainly not away from home anyway. If the do we will be a real attacking threat. It's still nice to have a different option though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Exactly. Not every player can be a young one. Barnett has experience and is proven at this level. The main thing is he is the type of striker we need. It's also rare to be able to find a target man type striker that still weighs in with his fair share of goals as well.I must admit I don't see JET, TB & SB all playing in the same starting 11 on a regular basis. Certainly not away from home anyway. If the do we will be a real attacking threat. It's still nice to have a different option though. I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers. I would love it if he did use all 3. We would be very dangerous and exciting going forward. Depends if he continues with 3-5-2 and feels he can accommodate all 3 I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers.A successful 433 though normally depends on two good wingers and one out and out striker, rather than three strikers! It would certainly make us a threat going forwards! ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Anyone know if he is cup tied? I know he didn't play for Peterboro on Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Anyone know if he is cup tied? I know he didn't play for Peterboro on Sat. Yes just checked he played in the first round game against Exeter http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24783908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Has he signed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Lets give the guy a chance.. He hasnt played for us yet and he's already scored more goals at Ashton Gate this season than Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Harewood out - Barnett in. Looks like a direct replacement to me. Only short term deal with a loan too so little risk. Definitely worth having "another club in the bag", looking forward to seeing him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Lets give the guy a chance.. He hasnt played for us yet and he's already scored more goals at Ashton Gate this season than Taylor he's scored more goals at AG then Taylor has scored for city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Cotteril came to City with 2 eyes. Imo he knows were we have to get up our strenght, He is the gaffer and I trust him. Lots of City fans my included but in the end he is the boss. 4 games unbeaten, thinks he knows how to manege City. Sometimes you have coming to the outdoor and see things in another way. Cotteril is the right gaffer for City Imo. COYR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderingo Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Really don't see the harm of this signing. Wonder whether Cotterill will play him up front with JET and drop Baldock to the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 It is possible baldock needs a rest. Been involved in almost every if not all our games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 It is possible baldock needs a rest. Been involved in almost every if not all our games this season. not bad for some one who is "injury prone" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers. Shock horror, no wingers, why does that sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Osbourne + Barnett, fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Shock horror, no wingers, why does that sound familiar? because we currently don't have any wingers which is something SC is trying to rectify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Really don't see the harm of this signing. Wonder whether Cotterill will play him up front with JET and drop Baldock to the bench. It wouldn't surprise me to see him do that for away games where we may need to be a bit more direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 A successful 433 though normally depends on two good wingers and one out and out striker, rather than three strikers! It would certainly make us a threat going forwards! ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK! It depends how the 4-3-3 is played as three strikers can be played if the 4-3-3 is aimed at passing through the middle, the strikers would have to link up with each other and obviously be fairly close in position to do that. The other option could be finding a forward like JET who can naturally play on the wing and cross the ball into the box and play an out wide 4-3-3, how many strikers have you seen can cross the ball and are pretty pacey. Shock horror, no wingers, why does that sound familiar? Joe Bryan and Wes Burns are the closest thing we have to developing wingers, although under SOD we did play JET on the wing and with a 4-3-3 if i remember. The ball ended up mostly in our own half and the defence cost us, 4-3-3 is a difficult position to defend if you give the ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 It depends how the 4-3-3 is played as three strikers can be played if the 4-3-3 is aimed at passing through the middle, the strikers would have to link up with each other and obviously be fairly close in position to do that. The other option could be finding a forward like JET who can naturally play on the wing and cross the ball into the box and play an out wide 4-3-3, how many strikers have you seen can cross the ball and are pretty pacey. Joe Bryan and Wes Burns are the closest thing we have to developing wingers, although under SOD we did play JET on the wing and with a 4-3-3 if i remember. The ball ended up mostly in our own half and the defence cost us, 4-3-3 is a difficult position to defend if you give the ball away. Where have you acquired such in depth tactical knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Where have you acquired such in depth tactical knowledge? Football coaching under 9's and football manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Football coaching under 9's and football manager Who coached you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Who coached you? I used to play/train with Weston U18's at college, i'm going through the 1st4sport Level 1 Award in Coaching Football (QCF). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I used to play/train with Weston U18's at college, i'm going through the 1st4sport Level 1 Award in Coaching Football (QCF). I read a book by Ron Greenwood once.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 It depends how the 4-3-3 is played as three strikers can be played if the 4-3-3 is aimed at passing through the middle, the strikers would have to link up with each other and obviously be fairly close in position to do that. The other option could be finding a forward like JET who can naturally play on the wing and cross the ball into the box and play an out wide 4-3-3, how many strikers have you seen can cross the ball and are pretty pacey. Joe Bryan and Wes Burns are the closest thing we have to developing wingers, although under SOD we did play JET on the wing and with a 4-3-3 if i remember. The ball ended up mostly in our own half and the defence cost us, 4-3-3 is a difficult position to defend if you give the ball away. It can also be very effective, but you need to wide attacking players who have good postional awareness when we are on the back foot as they can drop into a 4-5-1 formation, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Osbourne + Barnett, fingers crossed. This happening or what #nopatience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 This happening or what #nopatience Would of thought Osborne had been announced by now at least. Seeing as he tweeted Friday he had signed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Would of thought Osborne had been announced by now at least. Seeing as he tweeted Friday he had signed! Just announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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havanatopia Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Neither have yours, you want SC to fail, he isn't, you can't take it Tad early to be preaching the gospel. One thing we do know for certain...Like all managers before he will ultimately fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Tad early to be preaching the gospel. One thing we do know for certain...Like all managers before he will ultimately fail. Without a shadow of a doubt. Better to enjoy it while we can though, rather than wallow in self pity because he's not making a pigs ear of it straight away, as some predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Without a shadow of a doubt. Better to enjoy it while we can though, rather than wallow in self pity because he's not making a pigs ear of it straight away, as some predicted. So much yes to this. Best you can hope for is any manager coming in moves the club forward far enough that their eventual stagnation/failure leaves the club in a better place than when they arrived. Worst scenario is they don't just inhibit the club's development, but actively damage the foundations for the future, hence my belief Coppell and McInnes are the worst recent managers we've had, despite perhaps the latter having better 'on-field' stats than our last manager. But that isn't what this thread is about, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 7, 2014 Admin Share Posted January 7, 2014 One thing we do know for certain...Like all managers before he will ultimately fail. In this day and age I guess it is VERY rare for a Manager to be "poached" from another side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 BRING ON THE BARNETT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Without a shadow of a doubt. Better to enjoy it while we can though, rather than wallow in self pity because he's not making a pigs ear of it straight away, as some predicted. Naturally and, equally, like virtually ALL managers before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 2 and half years, for a 25 year old. FFS, what about the pillars........................ Naughty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 In this day and age I guess it is VERY rare for a Manager to be "poached" from another side Even S'OD was poached from Crawley! Uwe Rosler, David Moyes and Roberto Martinez are other recent examples .... I think the last time it happened to us was T*ny P**is. We were all absolutely over the moon. I wonder happened to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Naturally and, equally, like virtually ALL managers before him. Absolutely and I'm not sure who was predicting he'd fail straight away. Most acknowledged he'll have a good start as most managers at a new club tend to. It's what he does 3 months into the job, 6 months into the job, a year into the job etc that will define whether he's a successful manager here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Absolutely and I'm not sure who was predicting he'd fail straight away. Most acknowledged he'll have a good start as most managers at a new club tend to. It's what he does 3 months into the job, 6 months into the job, a year into the job etc that will define whether he's a successful manager here. quite a few were and they also thought Bryan Reid and Burns would play and thought we'd be lumping 90 yard balls for 90 minutes, the complete op has happened so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I read a book by Ron Greenwood once.................. Are you available in March ? ;0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 stockhausen mentioned on twitter nothing more today or tomorrow but SC been working extremely hard and maybe more influx before the weekend. Cant for the life of me think what we need unless we are shipping out a couple of faces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 stockhausen mentioned on twitter nothing more today or tomorrow but SC been working extremely hard and maybe more influx before the weekend. Cant for the life of me think what we need unless we are shipping out a couple of faces... A wide player i reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 stockhausen mentioned on twitter nothing more today or tomorrow but SC been working extremely hard and maybe more influx before the weekend. Cant for the life of me think what we need unless we are shipping out a couple of faces... Kilkenny gone makes little difference because we're pretty overloaded in centre midfield, but would like to see a winger. If Barnett arrives, I'd say he's Harewood's replacement (and Taylor's, in a sense), but other than a winger I kind of agree about where to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyderiup Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 A wide player i reckon. How wide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 A wide player i reckon. To replace Shorey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 How wide? didn't know windass had come out of retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Are you available in March ? ;0) I'm cancelling all commitments as we speak! PS. Any idea what the dosh is like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 How wide? A young Nick Higgs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 A young Nick Higgs? Kenneth at his fittest isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'd never heard of Tyrone Barnett so I can only conclude that the pillar that supports his loan is "experience". I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. How many on OTIB have slagged the back out of players who then went on to do quite well. Regarding posh fans not liking him. There may be an element of sour grapes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20509709 Remember also how few JET scored at Ipswich and how he was held in pretty low regard by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 So has there been progress on the deal today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 So has there been progress on the deal today? Expected to be announced tomorrow, paperwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'm cancelling all commitments as we speak! PS. Any idea what the dosh is like? All you can eat and when we sack you, you will have the rest of your 34 year contract paid up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 How wide? No,no,no.Anybody knows that horizontal stripes make you look fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 as hard as i try,i cannot picture tb,keep coming up with visions of 'bleedin west 'am innit' alf garnett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 stockhausen mentioned on twitter nothing more today or tomorrow but SC been working extremely hard and maybe more influx before the weekend. Cant for the life of me think what we need unless we are shipping out a couple of faces... Someone with confidence, positivity, dominance and the ability to stop shots from entering the net, perhaps. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'd like to ship out Fielding and bring in a back up to Parish on less wages. I'm kinda surprised that isn't on the cards; Fielding can't be satisfied being back up, and didn't we sign some young lad as 3rd choice? Get the feeling Parish isn't the highest paid keeper, despite being first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catcott_red1 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Sky Sports reporting that 2 clubs have made officail bids for Nouha Dicko. We are 1 of 5 that are interested apparently. Played and scored agaisnt us a couple weeks ago. Thoughts? Would be a good signing in my opinion. If we signed him and Barnett we would have very good options up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Bristol City FC ?@bcfctweets15s Breaking News: Peterborough United striker Tyrone Barnett joins #BristolCity on loan until the end of the season. pic.twitter.com/7w5rI6rEBg Confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Good stuff. Come on the Barnett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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