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There's a big difference between thinking someone may fail vs wanting them to buddy.

This is just exactly the type of signing i hoped we wouldn't be making. Hoping the comments I found from the Posh fans are accurate ones and he's a hit here.

At 28 though I'd hope we think very carefully before offering him a long term deal even if he does do well.

He's a physical presence up front, and can score goals. 28 or even 29 years of age is fine for any striker on a 2 year contract, look how old Stead is even now.

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He's a physical presence up front, and can score goals. 28 or even 29 years of age is fine for any striker on a 2 year contract, look how old Stead is even now.

 

I don't know why everyone is suddenly obsessed with player age. As you say, 28 or 29 is not old by any stretch for a good player. It's very admirable bringing through young players, but there has to be a balance of youth and experience, and Tyrone Barnett - although might not be everyone's first name on the list for new recruits - has experience at this level.

 

Prolific goalscorer he isn't, but that's not exactly his role. I do think however that we certainly won't be accommodating SB, JET and TB on the same teamsheet, so it'll be interesting to see what gives....or whether Cotterill knows something we don't about where JET will be by the time the month is out.

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Fact is after Baldock and JET no other player has more than 3 league goals this season.

An injury to either would surely see several on here querying then why we weren't more proactive in January.

Also some seem desperate to find a reason to criticise Cotterill, sadly for them adding a third striker proven at this level who gives us a different dimension isn't it.

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I don't know why everyone is suddenly obsessed with player age. As you say, 28 or 29 is not old by any stretch for a good player. It's very admirable bringing through young players, but there has to be a balance of youth and experience, and Tyrone Barnett - although might not be everyone's first name on the list for new recruits - has experience at this level.

Prolific goalscorer he isn't, but that's not exactly his role. I do think however that we certainly won't be accommodating SB, JET and TB on the same teamsheet, so it'll be interesting to see what gives....or whether Cotterill knows something we don't about where JET will be by the time the month is out.

Exactly. Not every player can be a young one. Barnett has experience and is proven at this level. The main thing is he is the type of striker we need. It's also rare to be able to find a target man type striker that still weighs in with his fair share of goals as well.

I must admit I don't see JET, TB & SB all playing in the same starting 11 on a regular basis. Certainly not away from home anyway. If the do we will be a real attacking threat. It's still nice to have a different option though.

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Exactly. Not every player can be a young one. Barnett has experience and is proven at this level. The main thing is he is the type of striker we need. It's also rare to be able to find a target man type striker that still weighs in with his fair share of goals as well.

I must admit I don't see JET, TB & SB all playing in the same starting 11 on a regular basis. Certainly not away from home anyway. If the do we will be a real attacking threat. It's still nice to have a different option though.

 

I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers.

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I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers.

I would love it if he did use all 3. We would be very dangerous and exciting going forward. Depends if he continues with 3-5-2 and feels he can accommodate all 3 I guess.

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I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers.

A successful 433 though normally depends on two good wingers and one out and out striker, rather than three strikers!

It would certainly make us a threat going forwards! ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK! :laugh:

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Cotteril came to City with 2 eyes. Imo he knows were we have to get up our strenght, He is the gaffer and I trust him. Lots of City fans my included but in the end he is the boss. 4 games unbeaten, thinks he knows how to manege City. Sometimes you have coming to the outdoor and see things in another way. Cotteril is the right gaffer for City Imo. COYR!!!

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I remember Cotterill saying at the fans Parliament meeting when he was at QPR he went over to france to see how they played. He spoke to the manager of Montpelier HSC who virtually played 4-3-3 all season and didn't use wingers. That might be an idea Cotterill is toying with, then you would need more strikers.

Shock horror, no wingers, why does that sound familiar?

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Really don't see the harm of this signing. Wonder whether Cotterill will play him up front with JET and drop Baldock to the bench.

 

It wouldn't surprise me to see him do that for away games where we may need to be a bit more direct.

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A successful 433 though normally depends on two good wingers and one out and out striker, rather than three strikers!

It would certainly make us a threat going forwards! ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK! :laugh:

 

It depends how the 4-3-3 is played as three strikers can be played if the 4-3-3 is aimed at passing through the middle, the strikers would have to link up with each other and obviously be fairly close in position to do that. The other option could be finding a forward like JET who can naturally play on the wing and cross the ball into the box and play an out wide 4-3-3, how many strikers have you seen can cross the ball and are pretty pacey.

 

 

Shock horror, no wingers, why does that sound familiar?

 

Joe Bryan and Wes Burns are the closest thing we have to developing wingers, although under SOD we did play JET on the wing and with a 4-3-3 if i remember. The ball ended up mostly in our own half and the defence cost us, 4-3-3 is a difficult position to defend if you give the ball away.

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It depends how the 4-3-3 is played as three strikers can be played if the 4-3-3 is aimed at passing through the middle, the strikers would have to link up with each other and obviously be fairly close in position to do that. The other option could be finding a forward like JET who can naturally play on the wing and cross the ball into the box and play an out wide 4-3-3, how many strikers have you seen can cross the ball and are pretty pacey.

 

 

 

Joe Bryan and Wes Burns are the closest thing we have to developing wingers, although under SOD we did play JET on the wing and with a 4-3-3 if i remember. The ball ended up mostly in our own half and the defence cost us, 4-3-3 is a difficult position to defend if you give the ball away.

Where have you acquired such in depth tactical knowledge?

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It depends how the 4-3-3 is played as three strikers can be played if the 4-3-3 is aimed at passing through the middle, the strikers would have to link up with each other and obviously be fairly close in position to do that. The other option could be finding a forward like JET who can naturally play on the wing and cross the ball into the box and play an out wide 4-3-3, how many strikers have you seen can cross the ball and are pretty pacey.

 

 

 

Joe Bryan and Wes Burns are the closest thing we have to developing wingers, although under SOD we did play JET on the wing and with a 4-3-3 if i remember. The ball ended up mostly in our own half and the defence cost us, 4-3-3 is a difficult position to defend if you give the ball away.

It can also be very effective, but you need to wide attacking players who have good postional awareness when we are on the back foot as they can drop into a 4-5-1 formation,

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Tad early to be preaching the gospel.

One thing we do know for certain...Like all managers before he will ultimately fail.

 

Without a shadow of a doubt.

 

Better to enjoy it while we can though, rather than wallow in self pity because he's not making a pigs ear of it straight away, as some predicted.

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Without a shadow of a doubt.

 

Better to enjoy it while we can though, rather than wallow in self pity because he's not making a pigs ear of it straight away, as some predicted.

So much yes to this.

 

Best you can hope for is any manager coming in moves the club forward far enough that their eventual stagnation/failure leaves the club in a better place than when they arrived.  

 

Worst scenario is they don't just inhibit the club's development, but actively damage the foundations for the future, hence my belief Coppell and McInnes are the worst recent managers we've had, despite perhaps the latter having better 'on-field' stats than our last manager.

 

But that isn't what this thread is about, sorry!

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In this day and age I guess it is VERY rare for a Manager to be "poached" from another side

Even S'OD was poached from Crawley!  Uwe Rosler, David Moyes and Roberto Martinez are other recent examples ....

 

I think the last time it happened to us was T*ny P**is.  We were all absolutely over the moon.  I wonder happened to him :whistle:

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Naturally and, equally, like virtually ALL managers before him.

 

Absolutely and I'm not sure who was predicting he'd fail straight away. Most acknowledged he'll have a good start as most managers at a new club tend to. It's what he does 3 months into the job, 6 months into the job, a year into the job etc that will define whether he's a successful manager here.

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Absolutely and I'm not sure who was predicting he'd fail straight away. Most acknowledged he'll have a good start as most managers at a new club tend to. It's what he does 3 months into the job, 6 months into the job, a year into the job etc that will define whether he's a successful manager here.

quite a few were and they also thought Bryan Reid and Burns would play and thought we'd be lumping 90 yard balls for 90 minutes,

the complete op has happened so far

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stockhausen mentioned on twitter nothing more today or tomorrow but SC been working extremely hard and maybe more influx before the weekend.

 

Cant for the life of me think what we need unless we are shipping out a couple of faces...

 

A wide player i reckon.

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stockhausen mentioned on twitter nothing more today or tomorrow but SC been working extremely hard and maybe more influx before the weekend.

 

Cant for the life of me think what we need unless we are shipping out a couple of faces...

Kilkenny gone makes little difference because we're pretty overloaded in centre midfield, but would like to see a winger.

 

If Barnett arrives, I'd say he's Harewood's replacement (and Taylor's, in a sense), but other than a winger I kind of agree about where to improve.

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I'd never heard of Tyrone Barnett so I can only conclude that the pillar that supports his loan is "experience".

 

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. How many on OTIB have slagged the back out of players who then went on to do quite well.

 

Regarding posh fans not liking him. There may be an element of sour grapes.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20509709

 

Remember also how few JET scored at Ipswich and how he was held in pretty low regard by them.

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stockhausen mentioned on twitter nothing more today or tomorrow but SC been working extremely hard and maybe more influx before the weekend.

 

Cant for the life of me think what we need unless we are shipping out a couple of faces...

Someone with confidence, positivity, dominance and the ability to stop shots from entering the net, perhaps. .

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I'd like to ship out Fielding and bring in a back up to Parish on less wages.

I'm kinda surprised that isn't on the cards; Fielding can't be satisfied being back up, and didn't we sign some young lad as 3rd choice?

 

Get the feeling Parish isn't the highest paid keeper, despite being first choice.

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Sky Sports reporting that 2 clubs have made officail bids for Nouha Dicko. We are 1 of 5 that are interested apparently. Played and scored agaisnt us a couple weeks ago. Thoughts? Would be a good signing in my opinion. If we signed him and Barnett we would have very good options up front.

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