samo II Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 COMMENTATOR : City will be playing for pride i feel Yeah good one What's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Lansdown made this public at the Bradford q and a session, no big secret No it isnt. but when i was told it was before the Q&A Chose not to mention it here as the usual non believing stick people dish out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtilldead Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 if Rovers now score I will be in consolable well sags have lost so you're safe mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 And said it then and will say it again.. as many of us have.. he would have been the solution. Not saying Cotts will not keep us up mind just saying as much as Colin divides opinion he would have been a far safer pair of hands for the immediate task of keeping this club in Div 3. But this board like to talk the 'long term plan' game but in reality they act out a short term one... We should be known as Oxymoron City. Long term? Short term? I think it's the whole concept of 'plan' that our board struggles with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 West Country football... now there's a novel idea!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 What's that? it's a gay march in London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatchers Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Accrington Stanley ? Who are they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 well sags have lost so you're safe mate That really has made my night, the sags losing to a team like Accrington Stanley at home, conceding in the last minute Shame I can't enjoy it more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 we've just lost 3-1 and the commentary ended with ''City will have some positives to take from the game'' I'm never listening to Radio Bristol match commentary every again. Truly awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Only thing we can be grateful is only losing by two. Sounds very poor and well beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 COMMENTATOR : City will be playing for pride i feel Yeah good one Pride in performance? More likely to be proud of their cars I suspect. This club is still a soft touch for any player who wants an easy life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 One Manager has been blamed and sacked because of it, whilst the other Manager is having the blame passed on to the players. There is a reason for that mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 YES, ACCRINGTON SCORED!!!!!!! And? Who cares? Well - you obviously. But I think we got bigger things to worry about than those twerps at the moment.....no solace to be taken there tonight unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 One Manager has been blamed and sacked because of it, whilst the other Manager is having the blame passed on to the players. There is a reason for that mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Same old same old from posters and players; only thing that changes is the day; after 45yrs I`m gone, enough, enjoy your stay though, I`m past caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Its not losing these two games, which were always hard, its how, and that the boss seems to be playing players out of position, and does not seem to know who his strongest side is. A win on Saturday is looking a must. A win was a must against MK Dons as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I was not referring to Adam; he is not the 'commentator'. 'Adam' is not the commentator but he was particularly lacklustre and monotone tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 You are correct. From what i gather Warnock offered his services until the end of the season to keep us up and maybe go on from there. I was told this by someone with VERY close ties to the club, once employed at Ashton Gate in a high capacity and still in touch with many current employees/Directors You know, can't help myself but I feel sorry for the bloke. You have to be pretty unlucky to make so many disasterous decisions over such a short period of time. Appears to have slightly more money than me , so that probably compensates a little but when it comes to football he's a talentless embarrassment. Nothing he does makes sense, no continuity in his approach. Damage limitation, rarely the cheap option but always looking for value. Ambition up to a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bristol............7th Largest city in UK..............the Hub of Football Excellence. By April will have 2 sides in the 3rd Divison. Its beyond embarrassing (what is beyond embarrassing?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 And? Who cares? Well - you obviously. But I think we got bigger things to worry about than those twerps at the moment.....no solace to be taken there tonight unfortunately. What other positives can I take from night apart from the sags losing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 BOARD OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 Same old same old from posters and players; only thing that changes is the day; after 45yrs I`m gone, enough, enjoy your stay though, I`m past caring. You'll be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 There is a reason for that mate Which is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bristol............7th Largest village in UK..............the Hub of Football Excellence. By April will have 2 sides in the 3rd Divison. Its beyond embarrassing (what is beyond embarrassing?) Fixed that for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atyeo Benj Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I don't mind losing to good teams but we should at least play well and fight rather than making silly mistakes an not helping ourselves and not having 1 shot on target when we have 3 strikers on a pitch with a combine total of over 30 goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bristol............7th Largest city in UK..............the Hub of Football Excellence. By April will have 2 sides in the 3rd Divison. Its beyond embarrassing (what is beyond embarrassing?) Wearing a Rovers shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 You know, can't help myself but I feel sorry for the bloke. You have to be pretty unlucky to make so many disasterous decisions over such a short period of time. Appears to have slightly more money than me , so that probably compensates a little but when it comes to football he's a talentless embarrassment. Nothing he does makes sense, no continuity in his approach. Damage limitation, rarely the cheap option but always looking for value. Ambition up to a point. Maybe with all his money he should headhunt someone who knows how to appoint a football manager........and insist that they ignore any suggestion or input that he (Landsdown that is) may propose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Chillax. These two were mulligans. To take a point would have been a decent return. We are not mighty, we are not good, so we had no right to expect anything more than nil points on the board away at the past two games. Balls to the manner also. I'd rather play crap and lose at Brentford than play crap and lose at home to Crewe. We will play bad. We will have bad games, better off having them away at teams in top 6 than anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We lose against Carlisle, it's lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 By April will have 2 sides in the 3rd ) .....if we're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 What other positives can I take from night apart from the sags losing?? Sorry dude - didnt mean to come across as a moody f&*k........just think celebrating them losing when we're in the pitiful state we're in is a bit meaningless.....as to your question, we only lost by 2?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willitonciderhead Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Losing to the team at the top of the tabke will not be our undoing, it is if we keep losing points agianst the teams around us that will seal our fate. Lets face it, we are once agian in a dog fight o stave of rele------, so it is htose results that I am most concerned about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 What other positives can I take from night apart from the sags losing?? Yeovile losing, pity it was O'toole OG 96 now that WOULD be karma ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Sorry dude - didnt mean to come across as a moody f&*k........just think celebrating them losing when we're in the pitiful state we're in is a bit meaningless.....as to your question, we only lost by 2?!! , no problem mate, this is why I enjoyed the gas score so I wasn't such a moody **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 we've just lost 3-1 and the commentary ended with ''City will have some positives to take from the game'' I'm never listening to Radio Bristol match commentary every again. Truly awful But, more crucially, no points. Never expected us to get anything here, but it is more the fact SC is starting to show the sort of pointless caution that hobbled and then ruined McInnes' reign. We lined up to try and frustrate a team who are flying, and they predictably tore into us, quickly putting the game out of our reach, and removing almost any point of us bothering to turn up. One shot on target about says it all; even at the darkest times earlier on this season we carried a goal threat, and it is probably the one aspect of our game that needed the least tinkering. But tinker we have, and tonight we chose to start a side with only 3 players who'd scored for us this season; Baldock, Elliott, Flint, and the last of those who's scored more own goals than those for us, including ANOTHER tonight. That isn't to mention us leaving out top scorer and single positive from a dire, dire season on the bench; insane decision. Utterly insane. Only decent thing about tonight it that Rotherham did us a favour and stopped Tranmere taking a step away from the relegation scrap... but that said, our next opponents won with aplomb against a team we couldn't defeat to do exactly that. As I said; expected no points from these two games, but at least expected Cotterill to play a settled team and allow us to try and play our own, primarily attacking game. We have to go for broke now, especially in the next three games, where less than two wins will see us well and truly favourites to go down. If we don't start throwing caution to the wind, playing our best players in the actual positions, and realising that winning every second game is more profitable than drawing them all, we are gubbed. Oh, and El Abd may end up being a decent signing, but considering we've gone from conceding 2 in 3 in the league prior to his arrival, to shipping 8 in 3, I think he perhaps isn't quit the answer to our problems. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 There is a reason for that mate Yeah, I'm in no way defending the previous Manager and his poor record - it is quite indefensible. But, had Fielding not had that mad moment v Bradford, Fonts not effed up a simple ball over the top v Cov, Baldock slotted into an empty net away at MK, Balders again put his chance away at Gills, Flint not passed it to Lee Hughes at Vale, Waggy not unnecessarily bundled over his man in injury time at Crewe then SOD might easily have had an extra 10 points on the board and things looking healthier. I've mentioned many times during Sod's reign how the player errors were telling - and that it was the more experienced players making these errors, but it was a futile argument according to most on here. All's I'm now suggesting is that the anti-Sodites bleated on and on about Sod being responsible and yet now all we're hearing from the Cotterettes is how the players individual errors are to blame, when in actual fact, the situation is exactly the same - ergo, was a change at the top necessary? Folks on here can't have it both ways - either the players are at fault or the manager is at fault, not one or the other depending on who you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 we've just lost 3-1 and the commentary ended with ''City will have some positives to take from the game'' I'm never listening to Radio Bristol match commentary every again. Truly awful Not one positive to take from that. Believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Maybe with all his money he should headhunt someone who knows how to appoint a football manager........and insist that they ignore any suggestion or input that he (Landsdown that is) may propose? Just go and concentrate on what he's good at. There are numerous things I'm completely crap at but I recognize this and concentrate on the areas in which I can achieve. Whilst he's in charge nothing will change. Love the new stadium though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Victoryforreds Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The most frustrating part is, our position does not reflect the squad we have, so what is going on? Or are we simply over rating the players we have? I do think you're right though, I just think maybe the tactics and gameplay isn't quite as good as it should be in order to use the players to their full capabilities. SC has had it all to do, after watching the absolute dire football served up by SOD, I think he's improved it a lot. I am getting sick and tired of the weekly disappointments now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It's not games like this which will determine whether we stay in the division, it's when we play teams around us. Saturday, is a must win. Considering we beat Carlisle 4-2 away this season, Saturday will be a key barometer on whether we've got better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bristol............7th Largest city in UK..............the Hub of Football Excellence. By April will have 2 sides in the 3rd Divison. Its beyond embarrassing (what is beyond embarrassing?) Make that the 4th Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Exactly the same as Wolves! Shot ourselves in the foot 3 times with individual errors Looked good after scoring then the second went in then the third. Second half was shocking no fight or determination. We need a player who can dominate the middle of the park, Tackle and Head the ball. When we needed to attack we just didn't very very poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The only positive you can take from that game is that Marv put 100% in and showed the other players what should be expected everytime you put on the shirt. Absolutely embarrasing performance, Derek Williams' free kick summed the whole game up. El Abd and Flint should never be allowed to play together again, they both make Carey look fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Still hoping cotts will prove me wrong and be better than Sod in terms of getting points. I aint going to make any knee jerk reactions and genuinely hope he gets us out of this. I was far from a sod lover just didnt think we could get anyone better. We have a good squad and had a good squad they are still under performing and that was my concern under sod as he couldnt inspire anything. Cotts after a honeymoon period does not seem to either. I genuinely feel now its down to us to do all we can game time to lift the team and be as positive as we can. The squad is good enough but has no belief that needs to change. Consecutive managers have failed to deliver but at some point we got to stick with one. I feel right miserable right now and even after reading posts hear am gutted I could not get away from work early enough to be there tonight. Hurting but will never lose my love orvhope for my beloved Bristol City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Yeah, I'm in no way defending the previous Manager and his poor record - it is quite indefensible. But, had Fielding not had that mad moment v Bradford, Fonts not effed up a simple ball over the top v Cov, Baldock slotted into an empty net away at MK, Balders again put his chance away at Gills, Flint not passed it to Lee Hughes at Vale, Waggy not unnecessarily bundled over his man in injury time at Crewe then SOD might easily have had an extra 10 points on the board and things looking healthier. I've mentioned many times during Sod's reign how the player errors were telling - and that it was the more experienced players making these errors, but it was a futile argument according to most on here. All's I'm now suggesting is that the anti-Sodites bleated on and on about Sod being responsible and yet now all we're hearing from the Cotterettes is how the players individual errors are to blame, when in actual fact, the situation is exactly the same - ergo, was a change at the top necessary? Folks on here can't have it both ways - either the players are at fault or the manager is at fault, not one or the other depending on who you like. It wasn't just this season with SO'D. The club was dying on his feet with him as manager, twenty five hundred STH's had given up the ghost and stopped attending. As well as all those who hadn't renewed due to the disgraceful lack of fight shown by his players in the act of ignominious relegation. He absolutely HAD to go, his negativity was strangling the club, and a downward spiral seemed certain to continue. Whether we've got the right replacement is another matter which only time will prove one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Yeah, I'm in no way defending the previous Manager and his poor record - it is quite indefensible. But, had Fielding not had that mad moment v Bradford, Fonts not effed up a simple ball over the top v Cov, Baldock slotted into an empty net away at MK, Balders again put his chance away at Gills, Flint not passed it to Lee Hughes at Vale, Waggy not unnecessarily bundled over his man in injury time at Crewe then SOD might easily have had an extra 10 points on the board and things looking healthier. I've mentioned many times during Sod's reign how the player errors were telling - and that it was the more experienced players making these errors, but it was a futile argument according to most on here. All's I'm now suggesting is that the anti-Sodites bleated on and on about Sod being responsible and yet now all we're hearing from the Cotterettes is how the players individual errors are to blame, when in actual fact, the situation is exactly the same - ergo, was a change at the top necessary? Folks on here can't have it both ways - either the players are at fault or the manager is at fault, not one or the other depending on who you like. simple really -- we have angered the god's for some reason and the end is nigh!! as someone else said we need an exorcist to get rid of our demons -- not a new manager director or players!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Considering we beat Carlisle 4-2 away this season, Saturday will be a key barometer on whether we've got better or worse. Ummm or it will indicate absolutely nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 If we could only find the descendants of that old gypsy lady we upset in 1909.., Why oh why didn't we buy her lucky white heather to take to the Cup Finsl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I wasn't at the game or even listened to it, it was a foregone conclusion that we would lose given the idiotic team selection. You drop the player that has scored 18 and assisted in 10, coupled with the only other midfielder with any creativity, then play a centre back as a wing back, and you have a team with fk all threat. Shite decision making by the manager and not for the first time. He's fked up the defence by introducing another centre back and playing him out of position and moving a decent centre back to a position he's never played before (other than Wolves where he was a fish out of water) and who has now picked up a hamstring injury. I never expected anything from this game other than having a go at them but that selection was just plain stupid and throws up a hell of a lot of questions about this bloke we've brought in as manager. My thoughts exactly. I'm behind whoever is in the dugout, and have felt positive since Cotterill turned up and seemingly lifted the squad. But the selection tonight stunk, and the only surprise is that we've scored, considering how negative the line up was. We line up in a similar manner in future I expect the same results; we need to focus on our positive aspect, namely our attack, and build around that, not sacrifice this single shining light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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samo II Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Ummm or it will indicate absolutely nothing... I think if we don't beat/lose Carlisle it will indicate... ummm.... that we're in trouble. What a bizarre statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It wasn't just this season with SO'D. The club was dying on his feet with him as manager, twenty five hundred STH's had given up the ghost and stopped attending. As well as all those who hadn't renewed due to the disgraceful lack of fight shown by his players in the act of ignominious relegation. He absolutely HAD to go, his negativity was strangling the club, and a downward spiral seemed certain to continue. Whether we've got the right replacement is another matter which only time will prove one way or another. I generally agree with what you say but Sod had and has talents as a manager no but coach yes. The question is could we get anyone better and that remains to be seen. I would prefer to have done what forest did but in reverse and kept Sod as coach ( if he was willing ) and bring in a motivator and face for the camera. I didnt believe Cotts was that man or is it that man but want him to prove me wrong. Losing at the press briefing was a worry as is two compilations all be it to the leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I generally agree with what you say but Sod had and has talents as a manager no but coach yes. The question is could we get anyone better and that remains to be seen. I would prefer to have done what forest did but in reverse and kept Sod as coach ( if he was willing ) and bring in a motivator and face for the camera. I didnt believe Cotts was that man or is it that man but want him to prove me wrong. Losing at the press briefing was a worry as is two compilations all be it to the leaders. In an ideal world maybe that could've worked, even though it must be said we really didn't see much evidence of SO'D's coaching talents on the pitch. If you read SL's comments after SO'D's departure though it seems clear he couldn't remain at the club in any capacity. I didn't expect anything from these two games so I'm no more pessimistic about our chances than I was on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It wasn't just this season with SO'D. The club was dying on his feet with him as manager, twenty five hundred STH's had given up the ghost and stopped attending. As well as all those who hadn't renewed due to the disgraceful lack of fight shown by his players in the act of ignominious relegation. He absolutely HAD to go, his negativity was strangling the club, and a downward spiral seemed certain to continue. Whether we've got the right replacement is another matter which only time will prove one way or another. And this is where the anti-Sodites and Cotterettes will be seen to be hypocritical. SOD came in half way through a transfer window with no funds provided to him, with a team in 24th place and 20 games remaining. Cotts came in 4 weeks before a transfer window, with funds being promised, with a team in 23rd place and 28 games remaining. The anti-Sodites blamed SOD for our relegation last season. If we get relegated this season, the Cotterettes will still blame SOD, even though he has taken over a team better placed, with 8 more games and more funds available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Hey guys, I've just found a positive.... At least when we knock down the EE the ground will STILL only be half full next season ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Imagine winning four games out of 27 and being second bottom. Oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Yeah, I'm in no way defending the previous Manager and his poor record - it is quite indefensible. But, had Fielding not had that mad moment v Bradford, Fonts not effed up a simple ball over the top v Cov, Baldock slotted into an empty net away at MK, Balders again put his chance away at Gills, Flint not passed it to Lee Hughes at Vale, Waggy not unnecessarily bundled over his man in injury time at Crewe then SOD might easily have had an extra 10 points on the board and things looking healthier. I've mentioned many times during Sod's reign how the player errors were telling - and that it was the more experienced players making these errors, but it was a futile argument according to most on here. All's I'm now suggesting is that the anti-Sodites bleated on and on about Sod being responsible and yet now all we're hearing from the Cotterettes is how the players individual errors are to blame, when in actual fact, the situation is exactly the same - ergo, was a change at the top necessary? Folks on here can't have it both ways - either the players are at fault or the manager is at fault, not one or the other depending on who you like. The reason people will forgive Cotterill more easily than O'Dreary is he's got a personality and we are playing football which is 10 times as attractive, win or lose. That's not having it both ways mate that's having what we want, entertainment. I would have ditched my season ticket if O'SafetyFirst had stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 And this is where the anti-Sodites and Cotterettes will be seen to be hypocritical. SOD came in half way through a transfer window with no funds provided to him, with a team in 24th place and 20 games remaining. Cotts came in 4 weeks before a transfer window, with funds being promised, with a team in 23rd place and 28 games remaining. The anti-Sodites blamed SOD for our relegation last season. If we get relegated this season, the Cotterettes will still blame SOD, even though he has taken over a team better placed, with 8 more games and more funds available. I placed significantly more blame on McInnes last season than SOD, and was absolutely behind him this season. By the same logic, if we go down I'll believe it will be more SOD's fault than Cotterill's, though SC has had more time to correct course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think if we don't beat/lose Carlisle it will indicate... ummm.... that we're in trouble. What a bizarre statement. Sorry, it will further indicate/HIGHLIGHT we are in trouble. As a measure of progression/regression one return fixture in isolation means absolutely shite all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 And this is where the anti-Sodites and Cotterettes will be seen to be hypocritical. SOD came in half way through a transfer window with no funds provided to him, with a team in 24th place and 20 games remaining. Cotts came in beginning of December, with funds being promised, with a team in 23rd place and 28 games remaining. The anti-Sodites blames SOD for our relegation last season. If we get relegated this season, the Cotterettes will still blame SOD, even though he has taken over a team better placed, with 8 more games and more funds available. Not all 'anti Sodites', as you call them, are confirmed 'Cotterettes', as you (somewhat strangely) call them, many of us are keeping our powder dry and watching his progress closely, hoping to be persuaded he is the right man. Seeing the team showing heart, fight and real passion is what many of us will need to see to become 'Cotterettes', and if he gets that response regularly we'll hopefully be - just about - alright. If we go down again with a similar lack of fight to that displayed by SO'D's team I doubt you'l find one poster on here defendiing Cotterill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I dont agree Nick J but respect your opinion. And nogbadI think we did see evidence of it. I dont question his lack of personality or lack of inspiration he lacked both this by the boatload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Sorry, it will further indicate/HIGHLIGHT we are in trouble. As a measure of progression/regression one return fixture in isolation means absolutely shite all. Don't agree. If we're unable to beat teams we previously have, even with the added advantage of being at home and a transfer window to strengthen sine, then we are clearly a worse team. Not sure where the confusion is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The reason people will forgive Cotterill more easily than O'Dreary is he's got a personality and we are playing football which is 10 times as attractive, win or lose. That's not having it both ways mate that's having what we want, entertainment. I would have ditched my season ticket if O'SafetyFirst had stayed. I'll stick my neck out and say that Cotterill doesn't have personality. He has bluff and bluster and very little substance. And I will stand by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 What we lack is leaders......leaders in the board room management and on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not all 'anti Sodites', as you call them, are confirmed 'Cotterettes', as you (somewhat strangely) call them, many of us are keeping our powder dry and watching his progress closely, hoping to be persuaded he is the right man. Seeing the team showing heart, fight and real passion is what many of us will need to see to become 'Cotterettes', and if he gets that response regularly we'll hopefully be - just about - alright. If we go down again with a similar lack of fight to that displayed by SO'D's team I doubt you'l find one poster on here defendiing Cotterill. I'm glad you feel this way Noggers. Believe me, many don't. And their hypocrisy will come to bear. For what it's worth (and I admit it may not seem that way judging by my recent comments), I also have been keeping my powder dry and hoping to be persuaded he is the right man. I'm not seeing it so far though, but I'll keep looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'll stick my neck out and say that Cotterill doesn't have personality. He has bluff and bluster and very little substance. And I will stand by that. Never said he has substance Harry, honestly don't know. But bluff and bluster is at least more interesting than the shite from O'Boring. I'd argue the crap from O'Bluster-Driscoll was bluster, he said we were going to do this and that but it would take years "because of the years of under achievement". **** me forget the excuses in advance just get on with it - Crawley are above us for ***** sake. And the football is infinitely better, surely you agree that? If not you need to watch an O'CoverMyAssWithBollocks game sober mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I dont agree Nick J but respect your opinion. And nogbadI think we did see evidence of it. I dont question his lack of personality or lack of inspiration he lacked both this by the boatload I think SO'D spoke a good game tiz, but not too much evidence on the pitch. In the final analysis he was damned by the team's appalling record under his management. Imo he didn't have alot going for him from what we saw, however tactically astute he may have appeared from his programme notes etc, he was clearly incapable of putting it into practice at AG - similar to the brick wall he hit at Doncaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Never said he has substance Harry, honestly don't know. But bluff and bluster is at least more interesting than the shite from O'Boring. I'd argue the crap from O'Bluster-Driscoll was bluster, he said we were going to do this and that but it would take years "because of the years of under achievement". **** me forget the excuses in advance just get on with it - Crawley are above us for ***** sake. And the football is infinitely better, surely you agree that? If not you need to watch an O'CoverMyAssWithBollocks game sober mate. You know I can never watch sober mate!! I will agree that the games v Stevenage & MK Dons were both entertaining. But so was the home game v Bradford, and the one v Orient, and the one away at Cov. All very entertaining games I thought. And the one away at MK. And away at Carlisle. The 2 games this week seem to have been entertaining more for the fact that the opposition were much better than us and could score at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 [quote name="Nogbad the Bad" post="1969130" In the final analysis he was damned by the team's appalling record under his management. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think SO'D spoke a good game tiz, but not too much evidence on the pitch. In the final analysis he was damned by the team's appalling record under his management. Imo he didn't have alot going for him from what we saw, however tactically astute he may have appeared from his programme notes etc, he was clearly incapable of putting it into practice at AG - similar to the brick wall he hit at Doncaster. Not being backed by the owner from DAY ONE probably didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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