havanatopia Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) I understand the FBI with full Swiss cooperation are making arrests and raids as i write this; 14 high ranking FIFA officials are being arrested and charged with corruption, money laundering and racketeering. Three questions... 1. I understand Splatter is not on that list... Why? 2. Will this, nevertheless, be his Waterloo? 3. Planned or not to coincide with this weeks election will it derail his re-election? Its good news regardless. I will make the following prediction... He will be re-elected but ousted in a coup long before his time is up and arrested later down the line and then charged. The end is nigh Splatter... If i were u i would wire your ill gotten gains and head for Moscow. This day could be a real game changer for football. May 27th, 2015. Let us hope so, it is long overdue. Edited May 27, 2015 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I have just flicked through sky news, bbc news and itv news and no one has mentioned this ground breaking day....was this just a dream you had? Or probably a more apt question is Source ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Apologies sir haveantopia it has just reached bbc via ap and says 6 arrests.....like you say hopefully a groundbreaking day but in all honesty probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 And news is that Jack Warner is on the list of those being arrested...finally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) And news is that Jack Warner is on the list of those being arrested...finally Bent Coppers ! Edited May 27, 2015 by Major Isewater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 And news is that Jack Warner is on the list of those being arrested...finally Evenin' all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awbb Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) I fear that this will have absolutely no impact on Blatter's continual dictatorship. Indeed, would be shocked if it did. Warner has not been an ally (nor relevant) for some time, so if he is one of those arrested, it's likely Blatter is strengthening his position, if anything. Or like before, merely sacrificing some irrelevancies or his opposition in a laughable attempt to keep the west (well, FIFAs major sponsors at least) happy. Though I happen to believe football would be in a far better place without his influence, I have a healthy respect for the way he has brazenly manipulated the FIFA cabal all these years, it must take some skill to implicitly endorse vast quantities of corruption yet appear to remain, to the authorities at least, unimpeachable. I fear his rival stands no chance, nor would expect no real change even if they did win. The election is sadly democratic; each member nation gets one vote, since virtually all of the football associations owe their money and vote to Blatter, they will not bite the hand that's feeds them, since potentially voting him out may cost them their lines of undeclared income. Hope that's cynical enough for everyone! Edited May 27, 2015 by awbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chipdawg Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 It's not Warner who's been arrested, it's his successor Jeffrey Webb- along with others- who IS a Blatter ally as far as I know? I don't think this has anything to do with Sep trying to strengthen anything, it's being driven by authorities in the USA. The Americans have no investment in Blatter so I wouldn't be surprised if they go after Blatter given the chance, but as Webb is chief of CONCACAF, I imagine it's got more to do with bribery and money movement on their own continent rather than globally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Warner is one of the 14 charged, sadly Blatter is not among them (yet?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 BBC radio news still only saying 6 and have only named one, a bloke from the Cayman Islands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 we live in hope that this is the end of the road for Blatter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awbb Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 It's not Warner who's been arrested, it's his successor Jeffrey Webb- along with others- who IS a Blatter ally as far as I know? I don't think this has anything to do with Sep trying to strengthen anything, it's being driven by authorities in the USA. The Americans have no investment in Blatter so I wouldn't be surprised if they go after Blatter given the chance, but as Webb is chief of CONCACAF, I imagine it's got more to do with bribery and money movement on their own continent rather than globally Fair enough. IF they succeed with investigation and successfully try the charged party, then I suppose there is scope to bring significant pressure to bear on Blatter, purely on grounds that he was supposed to be overseeing an organisation where this stuff was going on. Getting a resignation that way, would all smack a bit of Al Capone being found guilty on charges of Tax Evasion though! However, if it does go to court it will take years to resolve, more than enough for Blatter to award himself at least one more presidential term! It's fair to say, Blatter's never lacked self-confidence, so I would not be surprised that if somehow they did get to him, he'd play it out as brazenly as every other challenge he's faced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 BBC news have just said at least 4 confirmed arrests, maybe more. I guess they are being cautious as they are powerful people. FIFA holding a press conference at 10am (uk time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manon Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Did a little fist pump when heard this...just a big shame theres one name missing from that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 If there was widespread corruption then Septic Bladder must have been in the know - he has been in post for so many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Northski Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 A useful adage for life (and that includes football) is that "If you think something's happening, it's because it is" When the American justice dept start squeezing those arrested, then the fun's going to start. He's had a good run though, t'would appear that the wagons are circling.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chipdawg Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Fair enough. IF they succeed with investigation and successfully try the charged party, then I suppose there is scope to bring significant pressure to bear on Blatter, purely on grounds that he was supposed to be overseeing an organisation where this stuff was going on. Getting a resignation that way, would all smack a bit of Al Capone being found guilty on charges of Tax Evasion though! However, if it does go to court it will take years to resolve, more than enough for Blatter to award himself at least one more presidential term! It's fair to say, Blatter's never lacked self-confidence, so I would not be surprised that if somehow they did get to him, he'd play it out as brazenly as every other challenge he's faced.Oh yeah, if this is all proven then it will make Blatter's position very difficult, but he's been in 'difficult' positions before and come out smelling of roses. The best hope is that one of those arrested offers up bigger fish in a plea bargain. The Yanks LOVE a high profile bust and bringing down the president of the worlds wealthiest and most powerful sports organisation would be right up their street. But I don't think Blatter is the prime motivation as things stand Edited May 27, 2015 by chipdawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Net will be closing on blatter IF he is or was aware of corruption, It's only a matter time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) If there was widespread corruption then Septic Bladder must have been in the know - he has been in post for so many years. No Sh*t. Its the worlds worst kept secret that the organization is rotten to the core and Blatter is a fundamental part of that. Its just amazing how nobody has been arrested sooner. Hopefully this is the start of creating a transparent and non-profit football governing body. That is the dream. Edited May 27, 2015 by Collis1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 If there was widespread corruption then Septic Bladder must have been in the know - he has been in post for so many years. Just to play devil's advocate (and I caveat not necessarily representative of my own views) ... oh boy his will not be popular... The FBI have clearly been investigating this matter earnestly. They are confident enough in the evidence they have collected to launch these dawn raids against 14 individuals. It's important also that they were able to convince the Swiss authorities that their evidence was strong enough to secure full cooperation (remember this is Switzerland - Mr Neutral..). Therefore if there was truly anything on Mr Blatter do you not think: a) they would have uncovered it during the investigation which was thorough enough to collect the requisite evidence against these other 14. Not only did they collect enough evidence, that evidence was strong enough to convince the Swiss authorities to assist in raids carried out by foreigners (the FBI) within their jurisdiction; and b) if there were matters relating to Mr Blatter to investigate these raids would not have occurred until that investigation was complete in order to not put that investigation in jeopardy. Now that's outta the way I'm not sure where my opinion is - whether I believe perhaps Blatter is innocent of corruption or whether this is just the start. The fact that it's a US-led initiative I think they would be gunning for the guy at the top first and foremost - just not sure how to interpret the failure to land him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Just to play devil's advocate (and I caveat not necessarily representative of my own views) ... oh boy his will not be popular... The FBI have clearly been investigating this matter earnestly. They are confident enough in the evidence they have collected to launch these dawn raids against 14 individuals. It's important also that they were able to convince the Swiss authorities that their evidence was strong enough to secure full cooperation (remember this is Switzerland - Mr Neutral..). Therefore if there was truly anything on Mr Blatter do you not think: a) they would have uncovered it during the investigation which was thorough enough to collect the requisite evidence against these other 14. Not only did they collect enough evidence, that evidence was strong enough to convince the Swiss authorities to assist in raids carried out by foreigners (the FBI) within their jurisdiction; and b) if there were matters relating to Mr Blatter to investigate these raids would not have occurred until that investigation was complete in order to not put that investigation in jeopardy. Now that's outta the way I'm not sure where my opinion is - whether I believe perhaps Blatter is innocent of corruption or whether this is just the start. The fact that it's a US-led initiative I think they would be gunning for the guy at the top first and foremost - just not sure how to interpret the failure to land him. Think you have over thought this one considering it has only just happened. Maybe Blatter is elsewhere and will be arrested later, or they don't quite have the goods on him at this stage. Either way, there is no way that Blatter has not had a hand in the 'alleged' corruption. Edited May 27, 2015 by Collis1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Think you have over thought this one considering it has only just happened. Maybe Blatter is elsewhere and will be arrested later, or they don't quite have the goods on him at this stage. I'm just playing devil's advocate, not sure what my own views are yet - as you say it's very early in the day. I'm not going to get drawn in to making accusations of Blatter but I'm sure if most of us were in the pub we'd find agreement in some of our assumptions and presumptions about certain matters. Just a thought - could be in a Russian airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32895641 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chipdawg Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The FBI only have jurisdiction in the US, presumably they've obtained documentation from US-based media organisations, etc. that implicate those officials. I'd be amazed if any of that paper work directly implicates Blatter. However, I'd be equally amazed if none of those arrested have nothing to link Blatter to any corruption or none of them are prepared to testify against him for a bargain. This is the start of the process against FIFA and it's officials, not the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 This is going to rumble on for years I can't see how blatter can continue to stand for election, He will try and slime his way out of it of course but I'm looking forward to the press conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderingo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The 14 individuals are listed below. 9 from FIFA and 5 sports marketing officials http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/28/sports/soccer/fifa-officials-arrested-on-corruption-charges-blatter-isnt-among-them.html?_r=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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exAtyeoMax Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/603485906499174400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/603485906499174400 His Twitter persona is so different from the Mr Vanilla act he puts on for the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 love watching the FIFA spokesman squirming on BBC press conference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) In answer to the SKY reporters question about the calmness of Splatter..."Consequences of what WE initiated" the smug teuton says taking the FIFA press conference.. How incredibly magnanimous of you NOT.. you arrogant toss pot. Edited May 27, 2015 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Self serving and smug press conference from an organisation in deep denial I hope the whole thing comes down with very long prison sentences handed out and Russia and Qatar striped of the World Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monkeh Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Strong words coming out of the U.S. From the attorney general stating that this is just the start 4 have pleaded guilty as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Self serving and smug press conference from an organisation in deep denial I hope the whole thing comes down with very long prison sentences handed out and Russia and Qatar striped of the World Cup Won't need to be that long Monk, at least 2 of the 6 arrested this morning are in their 80's!! Edited May 27, 2015 by glynriley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Seven year investigation by FBI hmmmmm This is just the start of the story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Fair play to the journalist Andrew Jennings who has relentlessly pursued FIFA and corruption (under threat) for many years - read his excellent books on it - he provided information to FBI Bit of a hero for all football fans for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 One thing all seem to be agreed on and that is that Blatter is clever. It's no surprise he hasn't been arrested. In fact given his "Teflon" track record I'd have been amazed if he had. He's much too cunning to have left any concrete evidence linking him to dirty money. However, for those of us who hate this man with a passion - and believe me, I do - it's a little early to despair. This day has been a long time coming and I'm taking nothing for granted. The first thing is that these charges have to be made to stick. The arresting authorities seem very confident this time and there certainly appears to be a huge weight of evidence judging from initial reports. It will take forever, because legal procedures (especially on this scale) always do, but if convictions are secured, certain other things surely must inevitably follow. It seems to me that Blatter must eventually be condemned, if only by his own evasion of responsibility. If the little I've so far read is correct, these charges relate to fraud going back 20 years. The stench of (hitherto unproven) corruption has hung over FIFA throughout that time - and it's all happened on Blatter's watch. There are only two possible conclusions. Either he's in it up to his neck, which is what 99% of the football world believe, whether they're saying so or not at this stage, or - and this would stretch credibility to breaking point - he knew nothing about it, in whch case he would have to have been spectacularly incompetent to have been blind to wrong-doing on a massive scale within his own organisation over two decades of his presidential reign. Either way, he's screwed, finally. If convictions are secured, Blatter is either a crook himself or he's so stupid as to be unfit to hold the post. He may survive the imminent election or he may not, but he won't survive the fallout if these bastards are found guilty and banged up. I will open a bottle of very expensive champagne the day his head rolls. As previous posters have intimated, the other things that must follow will include a forensic examination of the voting processes whereby two future World Cup tournaments were awarded to Qatar and Russia. Up to this point I would have said the chances of either of those decisions ever being overturned are vanishingly small. This development may, however, prove to be a game changer. If it can be shown beyond all doubt that there was extensive bribery and corruption involved, then the decisions are fatally flawed and invalid and there will be huge pressure for the ballot(s) to be re-run. In any other circumstances, given the level of investment that's already taken place in, for example, construction of new stadia, one would have said a reversal of the decisons was unthinkable, but if the whole process was fundamentally founded on criminality, then I cannot see that the governments and football authorities of those two hosts can have any defence if FIFA subsequently withdraws the tournament from them. It couldn't happen to two nicer countries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 we live in hope that this is the end of the road for Blatter The Irish FA have announced they will be voting against Sepp on Friday. England, Spain, France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Brazil & Argentina; come on and do the same. Announce your intention now so "lesser folk" may follow your lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 BBC radio news still only saying 6 and have only named one, a bloke from the Cayman Islands. Happy to report the "bloke from the Cayman Islands" is not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Is with all criminal gangs,you round up the foot soldiers and get them to flip on the godfather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 but surely Qatar and Russia won it fair and square? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just to play devil's advocate (and I caveat not necessarily representative of my own views) ... oh boy his will not be popular... The FBI have clearly been investigating this matter earnestly. They are confident enough in the evidence they have collected to launch these dawn raids against 14 individuals. It's important also that they were able to convince the Swiss authorities that their evidence was strong enough to secure full cooperation (remember this is Switzerland - Mr Neutral..). Therefore if there was truly anything on Mr Blatter do you not think: a) they would have uncovered it during the investigation which was thorough enough to collect the requisite evidence against these other 14. Not only did they collect enough evidence, that evidence was strong enough to convince the Swiss authorities to assist in raids carried out by foreigners (the FBI) within their jurisdiction; and b) if there were matters relating to Mr Blatter to investigate these raids would not have occurred until that investigation was complete in order to not put that investigation in jeopardy. Now that's outta the way I'm not sure where my opinion is - whether I believe perhaps Blatter is innocent of corruption or whether this is just the start. The fact that it's a US-led initiative I think they would be gunning for the guy at the top first and foremost - just not sure how to interpret the failure to land him. Of course Blatter is guilty; at the very least of collusion if only by definition of being in post and being 'on his watch' but being at the heart of the organisation he is best placed to hide his dealings and use everyone else to be the fall guys. I am more interested in the documents confiscated by the Swiss Authorities regarding the 2018 and 2022 bidding processes.. somewhere amongst that lot and what it leads to and who is interviewed will incriminate Bladder.. of that I am certain. Whether charges can stick remains to be seen. This is unravelling by the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loderingo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The Irish FA have announced they will be voting against Sepp on Friday. England, Spain, France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Brazil & Argentina; come on and do the same. Announce your intention now so "lesser folk" may follow your lead. England have already said they will be voting for Prince Ali. Scotland were backers of van Praag so will presumably switch to Prince Ali too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTR Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Of course Blatter is guilty; at the very least of collusion if only by definition of being in post and being 'on his watch' but being at the heart of the organisation he is best placed to hide his dealings and use everyone else to be the fall guys. I am more interested in the documents confiscated by the Swiss Authorities regarding the 2018 and 2022 bidding processes.. somewhere amongst that lot and what it leads to and who is interviewed will incriminate Bladder.. of that I am certain. Whether charges can stick remains to be seen. This is unravelling by the minute. Like many people at the top of any organisation he has no morals,no ethics, no shame only greed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I wonder if we're about to see schism in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Of course Blatter is guilty; at the very least of collusion if only by definition of being in post and being 'on his watch' but being at the heart of the organisation he is best placed to hide his dealings and use everyone else to be the fall guys. I am more interested in the documents confiscated by the Swiss Authorities regarding the 2018 and 2022 bidding processes.. somewhere amongst that lot and what it leads to and who is interviewed will incriminate Bladder.. of that I am certain. Whether charges can stick remains to be seen. This is unravelling by the minute. Havana - surely you have not committed the cardinal sin of speculating rather than posting facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I wonder if we're about to see schism in football. I think so and I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Havana - surely you have not committed the cardinal sin of speculating rather than posting facts. Correct i have not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Correct i have not. Well that certainly isn't a fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ashtonphil Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Fair play to the journalist Andrew Jennings who has relentlessly pursued FIFA and corruption (under threat) for many years - read his excellent books on it - he provided information to FBI Bit of a hero for all football fans for me This appears a little bit like the invesigation into Lance Armsrong ( David Walsh in the Jennings role).. Hopefully this will; bring down FIFA hierarchy and Blatter will have to face Oprah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Loved the Qatar vote. The top officials in FIFA do a full study and report on the bidding nations, but still manage to miss the small detail that it's chuffing hot in summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I think so and I hope so. rhe prospect of American influence on the game worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Loved the Qatar vote. The top officials in FIFA do a full study and report on the bidding nations, but still manage to miss the small detail that it's chuffing hot in summer! They claimed games would be played in air conditioned stadiums. A Claim they later admitted was unworkable bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Loved the Qatar vote. The top officials in FIFA do a full study and report on the bidding nations, but still manage to miss the small detail that it's chuffing hot in summer! To be fair, it's an easy one to overlook, involves a whole mass of studies on climate and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Well that certainly isn't a fact Getting back to my longer post... Erhummm... If all this goes on while on your watch then, by all definitions imaginable or under the sun you are guilty or, and this is my caveat i perhaps should have added, you are the most dim person in charge of an organisation. I suppose Splatter features could plead ignorance... Would that mean he could be committed to an asylum? Jeez... He really is the slipperiest of pluckers. Edited May 27, 2015 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 rhe prospect of American influence on the game worries me. Why? FIFA is as corrupt as it comes. This FBI investigation will have opened a massive can of worms. These arrests are just the tip of the iceberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Blather can only be one or two of Corrupt Complicit Or Totally Incompetent Take your choice Mr Blatter - the FBI will be waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Getting back to my longer post... Erhummm... If all this goes on while on your watch then, by all definitions imaginable or under the sun you are guilty or, and this is my caveat i perhaps should have added, you are the most dim person in charge of an organisation. I suppose Splatter features could plead ignorance... Would that mean he could be committed to an asylum? Jeez... He really is the slipperiest of pluckers. Or it's a complex, ageing multi billion pound per annum turnover organisation which structurally and operationally is not fit for purpose and no one man could be expected to be wholly on the pulse throughout - or in Concacaf, perhaps. I'm not going to directly throw around any accusation but as I've said above Havana I would bet if we had a pint and talked about this we would have far more in common regarding suspicions and the relative confidence in those suspicions than not, if we disagreed at all. I'mreally just playing devil's advocate. Ultimately I'm VERY excited with today's developments but also very intrigued: why now, why now and not blatter, why not Blatter, how was the Swiss involvement, what the offences were (not the title) and how/why the U.S. has jurisdiction yada yada yada. Edited May 27, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Strong words coming out of the U.S. From the attorney general stating that this is just the start 4 have pleaded guilty as well FBI don't **** about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Blather can only be one or two of Corrupt Complicit Or Totally Incompetent Take your choice Mr Blatter - the FBI will be waiting All three in any order you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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