Bris Red Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 1 minute ago, Atticus said: Well this isn't the first time this sort of predictable and ****** result has happened now is it?? We all predicted this shite long before it actually happened. Half this team can piss off. Pathetic season. Got themselves to blame for this predicament. Its us fans that suffer though. But remember we must not blame Cotts, he is the innocent one in all of this dont you know? Foo0k right off Cotterill and get out of our football club because we are going down with you in charge mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 3 minutes ago, TheCulturalBomb said: Midfielders who cannot score. Pack should not be taking penalties. We need a new striking coach. Pathetic and almost exactly how our season has gone in lots of games. Better possession, better attacking, better shots. SPINELESS PLAYERS WHO ARE LOSING US THE GAMES AND CANNOT SEE WHERE THE GOAL IS. The usual reactionary nonsense. These players may lack quality but "spineless" they are not. Spineless implies a lack of effort and that is not the issue at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Sub standard team and Manager for the Championship. Now back in the bottom three. Who the hell will want to join us in January.Those running our club, both on and off the field, should hang their heads in shame for turning last season's success in to this year's pitiful shambles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Think we all saw that one coming, were too naive for this league. Should have won that by at least 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Just now, samo II said: We just dropped 2 points against a team who look nailed on for relegation at home; I think it is fair to say the team deserve some critique, especially as it has returned us to the drop zone and likely emboldened our rivals. If we can't be pissed at this, what are we all doing here? Quotes like "i ******* hate this club" go too far to be fair. People need to enjoy the ride of football. It goes up and down. I do worry for the health of many posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Half way through the season and people still talking of bad luck. It's not bad luck it's lack of quality . I think Lansdown is preparing for life in the 3rd division ,thinking that we can come back at the first attempt . I was abused by some on here when i started a thread about being promoted too soon but the more i hear of Lansdown the more i'm convinced that it was case. Edited December 26, 2015 by Major Isewater 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: WHY ARE WE ALWAYS RUBBISH? Because we are Bristol City!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 1 minute ago, cynic said: Now in the bottom three and looking like we belong there - no point in having possession or playing pretty football if we have no one who can put the ball away at one end or keep a clean sheet at the other. I've always believed that we could get a mid table position up to today, but now I'm sad to say that its more than likely we will go down. Not just because of this game against a side who will be relegated as they are abject and who we battered, but because its virtually the same every game and its not good enough to stay up. SC has been vocal in saying we need a striker, hence the abortive bids for Gayle and Gray. He has ambition but I'm not sure that others in the club have the same ambition. We need players in January to stand a chance. The question is whether it is too late to make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 For the first time this season, I reckon we're for the drop. Missing a pen and a last-second equaliser are standard signs, in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: The usual reactionary nonsense. These players may lack quality but "spineless" they are not. Spineless implies a lack of effort and that is not the issue at all. I'm sorry. This game has been the same as many many others. An inability to capitalize on chances. Not being able to see the game through. Throwing a game away we should have comfortably won. That to me is spineless and gutless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Dunno what's more predictable, what happened on the pitch or the embarrassing reaction from sections of our 'support' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 5 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Have to say it Loads (not all) on here dont deserve Championship football Only sing when we are winning Now is the time to support the team I would like to agree and normally would but sadly after the almost inevitable penalty miss, far too many of us could have written the rest of todays script and that is when it becomes a worry i'm afraid to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 Bringing players in next month is far from a given let alone if they will make a difference soon enough. We will have to hope the club can pull a few genie's out of the bottle. This match, for me, was pivotal in many ways. I think it finally tells us that this current squad is not, in all likelihood, going to keep us up. We all know where we need to strengthen, its not rocket science. The loan signings have not worked, we strengthened insufficiently in the summer so we have 31 days of January to turn our season. I don't think that is being melodramatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 7 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Have to say it Loads (not all) on here dont deserve Championship football Only sing when we are winning Now is the time to support the team Yup, we ain't down yet , just have to keep on fighting . Gonna need to pull out some boro esque results out though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 5 minutes ago, hortonred said: Sub standard team and Manager for the Championship. Now back in the bottom three. Who the hell will want to join us in January.Those running our club, both on and off the field, should hang their heads in shame for turning last season's success in to this year's pitiful shambles. Somehow I don't think they wanted this either..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: **** JESUS **** CHRISTMAS **** TOTAL INCOMPETENCE **** A BIT OF UNLUCK WHAT **** DOES **** THIS **** MEAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Freeman needs to be dropped. I like Cotts and he's 100% the man to keep us up but he needs to be a bit more reactionary. To see we are only winning 1-0 against a team that was worse than the majority we played last year he should've changed it. Burns Reid Cox Little any of those on would've helped I'm sure. Instead he once again left a sub for the last 5 minutes and they scored. I'm still pretty certain we'll stay up but he NEEDS to use those subs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 4 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: The usual reactionary nonsense. These players may lack quality but "spineless" they are not. Spineless implies a lack of effort and that is not the issue at all. Having a pair also means scoring penalties when so much depends on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Steve sounds utterly dejected and appears lost as to where we can go from here... somebody needs to have a word with him.. hopefully his wife will cheer him oh... they have to fly up norf tonight so fat chance of that... I hope they come out very very angry at Turf Moor. Trouble is that might mean we get walloped by being way too gung ho. lets see. Gargantuan battle to stay up.. i think we will but it hinges on January window.. what a position to be in. Edited December 26, 2015 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 3 minutes ago, glos old boy said: its far from over, despite some on here throwing in the towel Never mind throwing in the towel! Can you honestly see this bunch we have atm getting us out of relegation? You can't put it all down to bad luck, bad refs, the pitch, can't pay the wages etc etc etc. How much longer can everyone use these excuses, if it doesn't change in the transfer window, we are going down. Sc on RB now, he sounds very unhappy and says as usual we should have won, but again we didn't. So who's to blame SC, the players, the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Out of his pie crust said: Yup, we ain't down yet , just have to keep on fighting . Gonna need to pull out some boro esque results out though If I hear the "Boro result" once more I think I might scream. One decent and unexpected result and we're clinging on to it like thats the norm. Based on the season so far, the Boro result was a pure fluke. Our season so far does not have us beating the likes of Boro on a regular basis; our season so far has us drawing at home with other relegation fodder (when were lucky) and being tonked by the likes of Rotherham. Edited December 26, 2015 by cityloyal473 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redrobbin Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 He was quite calm and assured until the final whistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 We got exactly what we deserved today. Our performance in front of goal was nothing shy of embarrassing. No excuses and anyone that can take any positives from today...Well, let me have whatever your taking. Laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 4 minutes ago, finbarr_in_zurich said: Somehow I don't think they wanted this either..... They might have not wanted it but their actions are responsible for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 3 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Steve sounds utterly dejected and appears lost as to where we can go from here When the manager appears resigned to the inevitable and doesn't have the answers, there can only be one outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Oh dear another two points lost Again faults in coaching (missed penalty). Again complete ignorance of use of subs AgaIn inability to defend a lead at home Again inability to use possession No good arguing for new manager, obvious two months ago, as owner won't move on that It is time for Lansdown to consider his position if he won't address that of the manager It is clear, as I have been saying for months, that the club is happy with third division football and have based their business plan for the stadium whatever they say on that Suppprting City is so so frustrating Sad to say our club is badly run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Its not easy being a City fan is it? Edited December 26, 2015 by Lord Northski 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 11 minutes ago, Atticus said: I'm sorry. This game has been the same as many many others. An inability to capitalize on chances. Not being able to see the game through. Throwing a game away we should have comfortably won. That to me is spineless and gutless. Or maybe it's just a lack of quality and doesn't have anything to do with being spineless or gutless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2015 has been the best year in my time watching. ******* annoyed but still have time for every single one of them ... Keep fighting, anything more than survival was never realistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 1 minute ago, City169 said: Jesus H Christ. I used a little exaggeration to make a point. I can't be arsed to trawl through your post history or anything, but your posts on this thread alone have shown that you don't want him playing. "He's lucky to be playing" out of interest who would you have in his position instead? Reid who is a more attacking player and not suited to that role at all? You refuse to accept he may have been able to be any good at anything, when confronted with the fact that he had only missed 1 career penalty before today, you immediately claim it to be 100% failure, not 8O% success as was the case. Maybe you can't remember the 2-2 draw with Barnsley last season where he scored the opener from the spot. He shouldn't be playing. He's lightweight and brings nothing to the team. Whoop de doo, he scored a penalty once. We beat Liverpool once too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Oh dear another two points lost Again faults in coaching (missed penalty). Again complete ignorance of use of subs AgaIn inability to defend a lead at home Again inability to use possession No good arguing for new manager, obvious two months ago, as owner won't move on that It is time for Lansdown to consider his position if he won't address that of the manager It is clear, as I have been saying for months, that the club is happy with third division football and have based their business plan for the stadium whatever they say on that Suppprting City is so so frustrating Sad to say our club is badly run Lansdown to consider his position? as what shareholder and bank? Please!....The manager and SL will be having a good think right now!.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Oh dear another two points lost Again faults in coaching (missed penalty). Again complete ignorance of use of subs AgaIn inability to defend a lead at home Again inability to use possession No good arguing for new manager, obvious two months ago, as owner won't move on that It is time for Lansdown to consider his position if he won't address that of the manager It is clear, as I have been saying for months, that the club is happy with third division football and have based their business plan for the stadium whatever they say on that Suppprting City is so so frustrating Sad to say our club is badly run Really? And replace him with whom? Any Russian Billionaires knocking around? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said: When the manager appears resigned to the inevitable and doesn't have the answers, there can only be one outcome. The conclusions you outline, due to my remarks, were not at all lost on me; the key now is for City to somehow persuade the players, we all know they need, to join us. Being in the position of having to do that in an inflated January market place is regrettable. We can keep asking the same question.. why they did not come in the summer when wages was not the issue according to SL; is that the Chairman hanging the gaffer out to dry? Inadvertently? I sincerely hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Oh dear another two points lost Again faults in coaching (missed penalty). Again complete ignorance of use of subs AgaIn inability to defend a lead at home Again inability to use possession No good arguing for new manager, obvious two months ago, as owner won't move on that It is time for Lansdown to consider his position if he won't address that of the manager It is clear, as I have been saying for months, that the club is happy with third division football and have based their business plan for the stadium whatever they say on that Suppprting City is so so frustrating Sad to say our club is badly run You were doing OK up until the highlighted bit (although all the coaching in world cannot guarantee a penalty being scored), exactly what do you propose SL actually does?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Oh dear another two points lost Again faults in coaching (missed penalty). Again complete ignorance of use of subs AgaIn inability to defend a lead at home Again inability to use possession No good arguing for new manager, obvious two months ago, as owner won't move on that It is time for Lansdown to consider his position if he won't address that of the manager It is clear, as I have been saying for months, that the club is happy with third division football and have based their business plan for the stadium whatever they say on that Suppprting City is so so frustrating Sad to say our club is badly run Yes you're right, the business plan for a £40 million 27,000 seater stadium is no doubt based on third division football and does not show any ambition to reach higher at all does it. Just like bidding huge sums for the likes of Gayle and Gray shows how they are "happy" with third division football. What complete and utter nonsense you are talking. Edited December 26, 2015 by ChippenhamRed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bend it like brian Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 4 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Oh dear another two points lost Again faults in coaching (missed penalty). Again complete ignorance of use of subs AgaIn inability to defend a lead at home Again inability to use possession No good arguing for new manager, obvious two months ago, as owner won't move on that It is time for Lansdown to consider his position if he won't address that of the manager It is clear, as I have been saying for months, that the club is happy with third division football and have based their business plan for the stadium whatever they say on that Suppprting City is so so frustrating Sad to say our club is badly run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 My point about Lansdown is that he has to up his game and accept that modern football at this level requires additional investors -plus use of expert football consultant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 6 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Oh dear another two points lost Again faults in coaching (missed penalty). Again complete ignorance of use of subs AgaIn inability to defend a lead at home Again inability to use possession No good arguing for new manager, obvious two months ago, as owner won't move on that It is time for Lansdown to consider his position if he won't address that of the manager It is clear, as I have been saying for months, that the club is happy with third division football and have based their business plan for the stadium whatever they say on that Suppprting City is so so frustrating Sad to say our club is badly run You're blaming Cotts for Pack missing the penalty!? Good one! He's scored our last 2 penalties why wouldn't he pick him?! We had less possession than Charlton yet had 18 shots and twice the corners. You're a loony if you think we're building this stadium for the third division. We're making profit every year whilst teams like Bolton Fulham and forest are investigated for breaking FFP!? How the **** are we badly run? Love the idea of getting rid of lansdowne by the way that's a good one. I'm sure there are loads of billionaire Bristol city fans who won't run up large amounts of debt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I have got a funny feeling that we will be playing a local derby against the Gas next season, so at least we may fill our 27,000 stadium for one game of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: My point about Lansdown is that he has to up his game and accept that modern football at this level requires additional investors -plus use of expert football consultant And that's fair enough. A bit different from 'needs to consider his position' though, don't you think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Please remember the stadium is not City's it but Bristol Sport's To make the stadium work as a business will not require City above third division I don't believe the high million bids were serious - just window dressing If they were serious it was even worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I don't rate Pack and don't believe he will ever make a quality Championship midfielder, BUT although he has missed the pen - can't really blame him for failing to get 3 pts today. Wilbs and Kodger both missed easy chances, and the fact that Pack (who never looks like scoring) is taking it, presumably is because none of our other more favoured players have the bottle to take responsibility from 12 yards. Hacked off with Cotts for once again not using his subs, either Wilbs or Kodger should have come off with 15 mins to go, pointless waiting until our lead was lost. Jan window has to deliver for us, or we are down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I think OTIB should close down after matches for 12 hours , win, lose or draw , to allow people to calm down abit before posting . Be more reflective , learn how to deal with disappointment ( and today was sickening ) , refrain from blaming individuals often unfairly , and try and understand the nature of football , being a football fan and being a Bristol City fan . It's hard I know but more considered thoughts after a bit of reflection rather knee jerk reactions has to be less divisive . Heart is good but head is always better . It's taken me a lifetime to realise , in all aspects of life but it particularly applies to such a passionate thing like following bloody Bristol City . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 14 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said: If I hear the "Boro result" once more I think I might scream. One decent and unexpected result and we're clinging on to it like thats the norm. Based on the season so far, the Boro result was a pure fluke. Our season so far does not have us beating the likes of Boro on a regular basis; our season so far has us drawing at home with other relegation fodder (when were lucky) and being tonked by the likes of Rotherham. Not the norm and doesn't have to be in order to just stay up. Point is we will likely need at least a couple a results like that against teams around the top to stay up. Get that shouldn't be the limit of our aspirations but for this season I'm not shooting any higher. We are not adrift, we have a pretty reasonable chance of staying up and continuing to positively support is the best thing that can be done in my opinion...or we could just say **** it and throw in the towel. I don't want to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Sad to say I called this outcome before the game so I'm not surprised to see a draw, just more disappointed were not making the most of games. Kodjia is a penalty taker, why not let him take it? we just can't finish our chances. There is no remedy for that. We have used all our luck last season and have left none for this. Will be very surprised if we're in this league come next season as we can't even beat Bolton and charlton who are in dire straights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 29 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: The usual reactionary nonsense. These players may lack quality but "spineless" they are not. Spineless implies a lack of effort and that is not the issue at all. agreed but a lack of quality and a stubborn manager will see us down, not reactionary being saying it since day one of this season. Also not reactionary as I questioned cotts lack of use of subs last season when we were winning. Change is needed now or we're down, team spirit can only take you so far, and won't last long at this rate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 4 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: My point about Lansdown is that he has to up his game and accept that modern football at this level requires additional investors -plus use of expert football consultant Firstly who in their right mind other than a person equally as minted as SL would want to put money into a football club?, money isn't the problem, the disorganisation of the summer recruitment was firmly at fault and culminated in 2 frankly desperate and almost laughable bids for 2 strikers, secondly IMO 'football consultants are overrated and usually end up causing more problems than they are worth, my first question would is Keith Burt still at the club? if yes exactly what does he do? and what exactly has he done since the end of last season?, I cannot recall the last time I heard his named mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 9 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Please remember the stadium is not City's it but Bristol Sport's To make the stadium work as a business will not require City above third division I don't believe the high million bids were serious - just window dressing If they were serious it was even worse Still talking rubbish. The stadium may still work as a business with City in the third division, but it'll work better and make more money with them in the Championship. So obviously that's what they will be aiming for as a minimum. As for the "window dressing" comment...laughable. They were serious attempts to recruit that didn't work out, simple as that. No need for conspiracy theory nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 4 minutes ago, redapple said: I think OTIB should close down after matches for 12 hours , win, lose or draw , to allow people to calm down abit before posting . Be more reflective , learn how to deal with disappointment ( and today was sickening ) , refrain from blaming individuals often unfairly , and try and understand the nature of football , being a football fan and being a Bristol City fan . It's hard I know but more considered thoughts after a bit of reflection rather knee jerk reactions has to be less divisive . Heart is good but head is always better . It's taken me a lifetime to realise , in all aspects of life but it particularly applies to such a passionate thing like following bloody Bristol City . Hardly kneejerk after this many games into a season and seeing no change in ability or tactics. This season should have seen us kick on after the last, instead we look lost with a Manager that won't adapt and players not appearing to be of sufficient quality. not great with the momentum we'd built and AG ready next year. but hey ho we're BCFC so we shouldn't expect anymore I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Happy Christmas Gas..... From the Red side of town - BCFC the gift that keeps on frigging giving!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) It's not just the fact that we dropped two precious points. It's that we dropped them right at the very death.... and that Franchise Dons won so close to the end of their game... and that Huddersfield and Rotherhan trounced their opposition and got 3 points. Those three go into their next games on a high while we travel up to high-flying Burnley (who will be looking to puts things right) on a depressing low. Christ! - after Pack's miss it seemed inevitable that we'd **** it up - and we did! Right now I'd take three points every time, any way we can - no matter how crap we play. Edited December 26, 2015 by Bazooka Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 The problem lies with the manager and has always lain with the manager this season Given the inability of the owner (the chairman and Board seem conspicuous by their absence) to replace the manager then - SC should fall on his sword, before all is lost But I can only foresee continuing downward spiral I pray to god we can stabilise in third division next season, but, as said before, I am nervous of falling further 4 wins in 23 must give even the blind optimists on otib to have doubts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, City169 said: If you were saying that after 1 game then that is ridiculously reactionary, pathetically so. I was saying that before the first game due to the debacle of the summer recruitment policy, if you think that was reactionary look at the table. I'm sure there were a few that thought the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Utter crap, absolutely gutted. Honestly felt this was a game we would win and as a consequence I am genuinely shocked. We'll probably go and do something stupid like beat Burnley now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 11 minutes ago, redapple said: I think OTIB should close down after matches for 12 hours , win, lose or draw , to allow people to calm down abit before posting . Be more reflective , learn how to deal with disappointment ( and today was sickening ) , refrain from blaming individuals often unfairly , and try and understand the nature of football , being a football fan and being a Bristol City fan . I'm not having that. Some of the best threads have been based on anger fueled unreasonableness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 3 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: The problem lies with the manager and has always lain with the manager this season Given the inability of the owner (the chairman and Board seem conspicuous by their absence) to replace the manager then - SC should fall on his sword, before all is lost But I can only foresee continuing downward spiral I pray to god we can stabilise in third division next season, but, as said before, I am nervous of falling further 4 wins in 23 must give even the blind optimists on otib to have doubts Blimey, we are gd away from safety, and we are being pencilled in as struggling in Div 1 next year? SC must of course take a share of the blame for it, but this is mainly the squad we will have until the end of the season. It does not seem to be an issue of effort, but of quality. Could a new manager get more out of this squad? Not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 3 minutes ago, City169 said: how can predicting relegation before a ball has been kicked, or after 1 game as you originally claimed, be anything other than reactionary? yes i can see the table, I can see that we have just dropped into the relegation zone from todays results, but can also see that is is down to goal difference alone, and 3 points separate us from Fulham in 18th. I can also see we have 23 games left, that's 69 points to play for. Fair points, and yes we may make it to safety, I just see it as a huge opportunity that's been missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bend it like brian Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 9 minutes ago, WhistleHappy said: Happy Christmas Gas..... From the Red side of town - BCFC the gift that keeps on frigging giving!!! yea they done really well today ...they managed a point against 10 man wimbledon ....brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 11 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: 4 wins in 23 must give even the blind optimists on otib to have doubts Never! We beat Boro 20 games ago. We'll be ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Truly given up now. A shite week for this club just got worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I only hope that the players and manager have more belief than some of the fanbase, otherwise we may as well forget about survival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: I only hope that the players and manager have more belief than some of the fanbase, otherwise we may as well forget about survival. I understand what you are saying but be honest as I said earlier, after the almost inevitable miss of a rare BCFC penalty award, most on here and I bet many at AG could have successfully written the rest of the unwritten script that was about to follow and when life becomes that predictable there is something badly wrong IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 23 minutes ago, Iron Man said: Truly given up now. A shite week for this club just got worse. 23 games to go and only in the relegation places on goal difference. Well done on giving up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 19 minutes ago, bend it like brian said: yea they done really well today ...they managed a point against 10 man wimbledon ....brilliant Ahh shuddupa yer face ya bender Brian, ... just being ironically unfunny, besides us **** ing up again is about the only thing that keeps many Gasgpheads going most weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 20 minutes ago, Northern Red said: I only hope that the players and manager have more belief than some of the fanbase, otherwise we may as well forget about survival. I'd like to think 'belief' will keep us up but I don't think it will be enough. Belief's are dangerous things that lead you to accept the status quo and not questioning the path they're taking you down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: 23 games to go and only in the relegation places on goal difference. Well done on giving up. I haven't given up far from it but we have seen this so many times before. As it stands now I would be more surprised to see us stay up than getting relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: 23 games to go and only in the relegation places on goal difference. Well done on giving up. Well done on being a happy clapper. 23 games on from our god awful summer and our position is no surprise, even though the small amount of players we do possess are reasonably talented. No reinforcements, no confidence, mismanaged by the higher-ups. We've brought it all upon ourselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) 4 points I'd like to make. 1. We are a couple of players away from mid table. Sort a decent striker and we will be fine. 2. Nice to meet Basso at the game today. Highlight of my Christmas! 3. Whoever the three absolute scroats were, who waited by the tunnel to give Pack abuse about the penalty and call him #### can do one. I thought they were justifiably waiting for the ref, but ran off after having their say. I'll be back the next home game and I hope they don't do it again... 4. The ref was beyond a joke. Edited December 26, 2015 by Lordofthebling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BCFC Jordan said: Well done on being a happy clapper. 23 games on from our god awful summer and our position is no surprise, even though the small amount of players we do possess are reasonably talented. No reinforcements, no confidence, mismanaged by the higher-ups. We've brought it all upon ourselves. I stated there are 23 games to go and we are in the relegation spots on goal difference. Which bit of that makes me a happy clapper? If quoting the facts makes me a happy clapper, then I guess that's what I am. Those who have read my previous posts will know I try to offer a realistic perspective without gravitating to either extreme. Edited December 26, 2015 by ChippenhamRed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 3 minutes ago, BCFC Jordan said: Well done on being a happy clapper. 23 games on from our god awful summer and our position is no surprise, even though the small amount of players we do possess are reasonably talented. No reinforcements, no confidence, mismanaged by the higher-ups. We've brought it all upon ourselves. So not chucking the towel in is 'being a happy clapper' now, is it? Stick to crying about JET. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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