bs20ciderarmy Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Signed for Rotherham until end of season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric04 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, bs20ciderarmy said: Signed for Rotherham until end of season Not yet he hasn't, but is one of three under consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, bs20ciderarmy said: Signed for Rotherham until end of season Scraping the barrel there, I thought Wilbs was old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs20ciderarmy Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Done deal by all accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 He'd give any club in their position a fighting chance. Dont think he offers much beyond that at this level anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Apparently three experienced candidates will be interviewed this week. How naive are that club, surely they can see that to give them any chance of staying up they need to appoint a young "up and coming coach" that understand the "synergies" required for the project, and one that has never managed in the league previously - they could well regret their decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Gazred said: He'd give any club in their position a fighting chance. Dont think he offers much beyond that at this level anymore. Not sure I agree. Reckon he'd be a better bet for Derby. Decent and getting teams up, not so sure about keeping them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, glynriley said: Not sure I agree. Reckon he'd be a better bet for Derby. Decent and getting teams up, not so sure about keeping them up. He's not a great fit for Derby at the moment given the owners current philosophy of not wanting to get promoted! He's had a great career up and down the leagues but I only see him as a fixer/adviser type these days. I'm sure he could be in employment if he wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, ScottishRed said: Apparently three experienced candidates will be interviewed this week. How naive are that club, surely they can see that to give them any chance of staying up they need to appoint a young "up and coming coach" that understand the "synergies" required for the project, and one that has never managed in the league previously - they could well regret their decision. They're welcome to Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Gazred said: He'd give any club in their position a fighting chance. Dont think he offers much beyond that at this level anymore. That's what they need - a fighting chance. Somebody who can come in and give the team a quick fix (drugs excluded). They haven't got much money so I can't imagine any big name managers will apply, though there may be some on their forum saying David Moyes is interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 There were some on here who listened to talk shite the other day, that said he mentioned he had something lined up in a couple of weeks. Just goes to show that he had probably been tapped up for one of these new jobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 40 minutes ago, Gazred said: He's not a great fit for Derby at the moment given the owners current philosophy of not wanting to get promoted! He's had a great career up and down the leagues but I only see him as a fixer/adviser type these days. I'm sure he could be in employment if he wanted to. Ha! Yep, fair comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I reckon they will stay up with Warnock. It's what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfan Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Warnock going there is bad new for us. We could do without the proven results of Neil Warnock at this level and competing against us to stay up. I'm sure he will give it a real good go, bringing in some tried and tested players who will play for him and know what's required. With Bolton hitting a bit more form, it is going to be extremely difficult to stay up. I would have preferred appointing Warnock to the end of the season and then Lee Johnson for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, Super said: I reckon they will stay up with Warnock. It's what he does. Perhaps what he used to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, Super said: I reckon they will stay up with Warnock. It's what he does. They have a better chance with him than many others although i think they should have stayed with Redfearn. Therefore marginally bad news for us. I wonder if he is being provided with a Helicopter... Assuming he is confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Perhaps what he used to do? Maybe. We'll find out if he signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I'm always slightly puzzled by the idea of Warnock as a great fire fighter to get you out of relegation trouble. I'm struggling to think of any teams he's parachuted into with 15 or so games to go and turned around. Can think of plenty of mediocre teams he got promoted having spent a bit of cash over the course of a season, as well as several (albeit at the level above) he got relegated. His two most recent 'proper' jobs (Leeds and Palace) have been poor and seen him sacked despite having more time and more resources than he'll have at Rotherham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs20ciderarmy Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Even getting him till the end of the season doesn't really make a lot of sense they MIGHT stay up with him then bam come the summer there back to square 1. Would rather a manager come in looking to the future (obviously as well as trying to stay up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Super said: I reckon they will stay up with Warnock. It's what he does. Super- is this a baited hook?Surely? Anyway, the Colin love in on here with some is equal in it's misguidance as 'let's slag off Lee' with others. Talking of slagging off- What a complete prat this man is. Rotherham deserve better- Daryl Clarke for example, about time he went to a decent club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 45 minutes ago, chipdawg said: I'm always slightly puzzled by the idea of Warnock as a great fire fighter to get you out of relegation trouble. I'm struggling to think of any teams he's parachuted into with 15 or so games to go and turned around. Can think of plenty of mediocre teams he got promoted having spent a bit of cash over the course of a season, as well as several (albeit at the level above) he got relegated. His two most recent 'proper' jobs (Leeds and Palace) have been poor and seen him sacked despite having more time and more resources than he'll have at Rotherham This. Neil Warnock being seen as some sort of relegation saviour is a myth for me also... Was rubbish at Leeds as you said fairly poor at Palace too. With the shape and way Pembo has got us set up aslong as Lee Johnson runs with that (which im sure he will) i think we will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 5th April looks like an interesting date for the diary then. Reminiscent of the other time Warnock was officially here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Whether you like him or hate him, this is terrible news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Super said: I reckon they will stay up with Warnock. It's what he does. Apart from on his last three jobs where he was sacked after poor form left the clubs in trouble. He's 67 you know. And a former greengrocer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1/3 at Skybet, so not nailed on yet. Up to us to get our results, whatever Rotherham do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Relax, Warnock's a dinosaur. His time has gone, if Rotherham take him, they'll be relegated. I would've felt the same way if Warnock ended up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I admit that I thought he'd be just what we needed in the aftermath of the SC sacking shambles and it's poor timing. I don't really like the bloke, but despite his record he just seems to me to have something about him. I guess we'll see either way whether he is the man to pull through a relegation dog fight. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I'm almost certain we will finish above Rotherham, they lost to Charlton and Bolton last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: Relax, Warnock's a dinosaur. His time has gone, if Rotherham take him, they'll be relegated. I would've felt the same way if Warnock ended up here. Completely agree, he's not found success in recent times. Their squad isn't great, personally can't see him keeping them up. The bottom three will be the bottom three at the end of season. Going to be tight, but confident well have enough to stay up - just ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It would be great to see Rotherham get relegated with Warnock and charge - we can sit back smuggly and say look what we could have had... ...having said that it could be the other way round and I'll look pretty stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Super said: I reckon they will stay up with Warnock. It's what he does. He also promotes a fair few... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 44 minutes ago, Shtanley said: I'm almost certain we will finish above Rotherham, they lost to Charlton and Bolton last 2 games. But they beat us 3-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: Relax, Warnock's a dinosaur. His time has gone, if Rotherham take him, they'll be relegated. I would've felt the same way if Warnock ended up here. He's younger than Arsene Wenger....funny how Arsene and Sir Alex aren't/weren't seen as dinosaurs because they are/were at massive clubs with massive budgets. Yet an ageing Warnock (younger than both of them) is simply dismissed as a dinosaur....although you don't often see a T-Rex with seven promotions on his CV.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 This place will be in meltdown of they stay up at our expense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 hour ago, hollydog said: But they beat us 3-0 Most teams were putting 3 past us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 44 minutes ago, cynic said: I wouldn't say Colin is a dinosaur. He's more of an ape. APE - Always Pray Everyday. I didn't realise he was particularly religious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfan Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I posted this on the 10/2/16 "Warnock going there is bad new for us. We could do without the proven results of Neil Warnock at this level and competing against us to stay up. I'm sure he will give it a real good go, bringing in some tried and tested players who will play for him and know what's required. With Bolton hitting a bit more form, it is going to be extremely difficult to stay up." He's doing his job for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Meh. I'll bump this thread when Rotherham go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 8 hours ago, cityfan said: I posted this on the 10/2/16 "Warnock going there is bad new for us. We could do without the proven results of Neil Warnock at this level and competing against us to stay up. I'm sure he will give it a real good go, bringing in some tried and tested players who will play for him and know what's required. With Bolton hitting a bit more form, it is going to be extremely difficult to stay up." He's doing his job for sure! Well you were right about Bolton time will tell if you are right about Warnock. Another sending off last night, they may run out players before he can complete their recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfan Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 3-3 at Derby. There is no way he is going down without a fight and I hope it doesn't end up one of City or Rotheram. Howard Webb, World Cup referee is a Rotheram fan and was on radio 5 live at the weekend. Now he is retired and happens to be a Rotheram fan, he said post the Derby game that he is very happy that Warnock is in charge. I can't say I am! definitely should have managed City post GJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Looks to me like he is doing a good job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, City169 said: Could they possibly get a fine too if things continue? I know there are discipline fines for the club if too many players are booked in one match, not sure if there's anything about numerous sending offs There must be surely, the overall disciplinary record must have consequences. The sending off was for 2 bookable offences too, so I think that was 5 in that game alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfan Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 On 07/03/2016 at 22:52, cityfan said: I posted this on the 10/2/16 "Warnock going there is bad new for us. We could do without the proven results of Neil Warnock at this level and competing against us to stay up. I'm sure he will give it a real good go, bringing in some tried and tested players who will play for him and know what's required. With Bolton hitting a bit more form, it is going to be extremely difficult to stay up." He's doing his job for sure! Roll on Tuesday, game of the season. Good old Warnock is doing his job for sure, 16 points in the last 18. We should be safe, but Warnock was always the sure bet for safety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Johnson is saving us and Warnock is saving Rotherham but we should have got Warnock, makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, cityfan said: Roll on Tuesday, game of the season. Good old Warnock is doing his job for sure, 16 points in the last 18. We should be safe, but Warnock was always the sure bet for safety! Not really. Charlton, Fulham and Bolton games were more important in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 19 minutes ago, RedDave said: Johnson is saving us and Warnock is saving Rotherham but we should have got Warnock, makes no sense Yeah I'd love to be a nasty team of thugs and cheats. Five red cards since his arrival isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Derbyshire out for Tuesday and 2 more games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I wanted warnock but wasn't disappointed when lee got it,a lot of people on here let there personal feelings towards Colin overshadow what was best for our club.as our owner did,as it stands warnock will keep Rotherham up no doubt about it because experience in this league is crucial,and I hope lee will keep us up,because if he doesn't and we struggle in league 1 then he will be sacked and we will be back to square 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: I wanted warnock but wasn't disappointed when lee got it,a lot of people on here let there personal feelings towards Colin overshadow what was best for our club.as our owner did,as it stands warnock will keep Rotherham up no doubt about it because experience in this league is crucial,and I hope lee will keep us up,because if he doesn't and we struggle in league 1 then he will be sacked and we will be back to square 1 Short Term I think NW would have been better but long term for me I think we got it right. Obviously only time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Rotherham are on fire right now and their fans will be loving it but where will they be next October/November? Probably somewhere around the bottom five or 6 in the Championship, wondering if they should fire the bloke that took over from Warnock (I think I'm right in saying Warnock is only there until the end of this season?) And then probably approaching Warnock again. They are merely fighting the inevitable. We have more scope to do something in this league, or at least throw more money at it than them, but will we be in it to have a go? Still a lot for us to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 24 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Short Term I think NW would have been better but long term for me I think we got it right. Obviously only time will tell Is there such a thing as long term anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 58 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Yeah I'd love to be a nasty team of thugs and cheats. Five red cards since his arrival isn't it? If being a bit rough gets you results so what? Footballs a contact sport isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Iron Man said: If being a bit rough gets you results so what? Footballs a contact sport isn't it? Lee Johnsons approach has seen us score more goals and no red cards. Yet Warnock gets his own thread of praise on here and LJ grief when we lose. Both have done equally good jobs yet some City fans continue to think we made the wrong decision. Truly bizarre to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Lee Johnsons approach has seen us score more goals and no red cards. Yet Warnock gets his own thread of praise on here and LJ grief when we lose. Both have done equally good jobs yet some City fans continue to think we made the wrong decision. Truly bizarre to me. Red cards :laugh:,you really believe warnock sends his players out to get sent off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 there's no doubt Colin can be effective at times, but as a person I would not want him in charge of my club. Does personality matter? Yes of course it does. Having him here would be like having your favourite daughter eloping with Piers Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Lee Johnsons approach has seen us score more goals and no red cards. Yet Warnock gets his own thread of praise on here and LJ grief when we lose. Both have done equally good jobs yet some City fans continue to think we made the wrong decision. Truly bizarre to me. I agree it's bizarre that he has his own thread but to call his teams thugs is a bit mad really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Leveller said: there's no doubt Colin can be effective at times, but as a person I would not want him in charge of my club. Does personality matter? Yes of course it does. Having him here would be like having your favourite daughter eloping with Piers Morgan. What about the daughter you don`t really like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: I agree it's bizarre that he has his own thread but to call his teams thugs is a bit mad really Since he's arrived they've had 4 or maybe even 5 red cards. I don't think it's any coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: What about the daughter you don`t really like? Well at least she'd be well off I suppose. Not that I actually have any daughters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted April 2, 2016 Admin Share Posted April 2, 2016 16 minutes ago, Leveller said: there's no doubt Colin can be effective at times, but as a person I would not want him in charge of my club. Does personality matter? Yes of course it does. Having him here would be like having your favourite daughter eloping with Piers Morgan. Have you met Colin? His football persona is an act, he is a very different personality away from the game. Not sure he deserves the personal vilification he gets on here. SAF gets treated like a deity, but he has been cantankerous and ignorant sod over the years - all in the course of protecting his team , something Colin is effective at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Since he's arrived they've had 4 or maybe even 5 red cards. I don't think it's any coincidence. You seen all the red cards,2 of them were blatant limited players just not being good enough and 2 were harsh,haven't seen the other 1,is there upturn in results a coincidence as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 We should have gone for Warnock to keep us up and to look at the situation in the summer. That was my opinion a couple of months ago and it still hasn't changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: We should have gone for Warnock to keep us up and to look at the situation in the summer. That was my opinion a couple of months ago and it still hasn't changed. You could argue that with LJ having been in charge during this relegation fight he will have learnt a lot about his players - who he can rely on, who might bottle it under pressure and such. He`ll also have had a good look at the loan players and will have some idea of whether we want them permanently or not. If the worst does happen, he`s got L1 experience (not that I think that will happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Wanted Colin before we signed Little Lee but happy with LJ. Had a feeling Warnock would get them going and he has. I would add a touch of caution for us and Rotherham in as much the race isn't over yet ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: You could argue that with LJ having been in charge during this relegation fight he will have learnt a lot about his players - who he can rely on, who might bottle it under pressure and such. He`ll also have had a good look at the loan players and will have some idea of whether we want them permanently or not. If the worst does happen, he`s got L1 experience (not that I think that will happen). If the worst happens then lee does have league 1 experience,that will be midtable.goody gumdrops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 should be some game tuesday night. both teams have hit promotion form in the last 10 games with city picking up 18 points and rotherham 1 point less. impressive stuff from both managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: Have you met Colin? His football persona is an act, he is a very different personality away from the game. Not sure he deserves the personal vilification he gets on here. SAF gets treated like a deity, but he has been cantankerous and ignorant sod over the years - all in the course of protecting his team , something Colin is effective at. I don't think meeting him would make any difference. He can be very cheery when things are going his way but is very unpleasant when they're not, which I think is the true test of his character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Alan Dicks said: We should have gone for Warnock to keep us up and to look at the situation in the summer. That was my opinion a couple of months ago and it still hasn't changed. Was mine at the time too, but I don't hate the alternative, being LJ. I like LJ, perhaps in the summer he'd have been one of my favoured picks given the realistic candidates At the time I wouldn't have had the cojones for appointing LJ. Even with 20:20 hindsight I'm not sure our board ought to have had the cojones for it at the time. It leaves me with genuine question marks about just how high stakes they might go, whether that's reasonable and/or 'proper'. I was never anti-LJ - I thought he could do a good job- but even if he has/had a Midas touch, theres still question marks about whether our board acted reasonably given what was on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Sing it loud and sing it long on Tuesday: Colin ******, what a Warnock, what a Warnock. Colin ******, what a Warnock, what a Warnock!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, Redtucks said: Sing it loud and sing it long on Tuesday: Colin ******, what a Warnock, what a Warnock. Colin ******, what a Warnock, what a Warnock!!! It's always best to take the enemy by surprise, and do the unexpected. Let's smother him with love! We love you Warnock, we do......... Ther's only one Neil Warnock...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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