Tomo Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 With us? I liked him in that era but look at his record?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Carle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 How we got £1 mil for him I'd never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Talks Bcfc - as his biggest game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 He`s still only 34! It seems a lifetime ago he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 He must be one of the few players where we made a decent profit on his transfer. Approx £500k in six months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, pongo88 said: He must be one of the few players where we made a decent profit on his transfer. Approx £500k in six months! I think it was Colin in charge at Palace then. Might be why he hates us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Thought he did OK for us....liked him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 He was a lot better than Lee Johnson in my opinion and whatever you may think about Colin he knows more about a footballer than anyone in this forum so if he signed him its because he was a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Mr Orr retired at 33 last year - strange one!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Mad to think ORR played 229 out of 339 appearances for us - silly boy rejecting contract renewals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelboy Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Thought Nick Carle was massively overrated, he was overhyped because he replaced the scapegoat of the season, Lee Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 He would walk into this team now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Produced one of the best midfield displays I've seen up in Sheffield. Thought he was decent and disappointed he left at the time. Exactly the sort of player we are missing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, JonDolman said: He was quality wasn't he in the Wembley playoff season? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, super slick said: Thought Nick Carle was massively overrated, he was overhyped because he replaced the scapegoat of the season, Lee Johnson His manager didn't consider Lee to be a scapegoat though. He even moved the Championships best midfielder to full back to accommodate him at Wembley. Water under the bridge but Carle was the real deal in my opinion but not everyone else's perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: Produced one of the best midfield displays I've seen up in Sheffield. Thought he was decent and disappointed he left at the time. Exactly the sort of player we are missing now. And we lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Who 'over-rated' him? Was a good player for us in that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Super said: He would walk into this team now. A few of the playoff final team would walk into the current team (if they weren't 8 years older!) Basso, Orr (Johnson 45), Carey, Fontaine, McAllister, Noble (Sproule 63), Elliott, Carle (Byfield 76), McIndoe, Adebola, Trundle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, Super said: He would walk into this team now. Certainly would, he didn't score any goals either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, pongo88 said: A few of the playoff final team would walk into the current team (if they weren't 8 years older!) Basso, Orr (Johnson 45), Carey, Fontaine, McAllister, Noble (Sproule 63), Elliott, Carle (Byfield 76), McIndoe, Adebola, Trundle. Its funny though because even that team suffered in a way the same as the current team is and that is scoring goals.. Neither Trundle or Adebola were out and out goal scorer's.. We did have the likes of Mcindoe and Sproule chipping in though i suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Basically the original Freeman at this level. Seems that a lot of our fans get duped by players that flick their wavey hair about and can drop their shoulder from time to time. Yes, he could hold the ball and do a decent Cruyff turn but other than that, like Freeman, he had next to no end product at this level. Most definitely over-rated as can be seen by some of the gushing comments on this very thread. Horrible buy from Colin as any Palarse fan would tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 38 minutes ago, JonDolman said: He was quality wasn't he in the Wembley playoff season? No , no he wasn't . Or are you being sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Basically the original Freeman at this level. Seems that a lot of our fans get duped by players that flick their wavey hair about and can drop their shoulder from time to time. Yes, he could hold the ball and do a decent Cruyff turn but other than that, like Freeman, he had next to no end product at this level. Most definitely over-rated as can be seen by some of the gushing comments on this very thread. Horrible buy from Colin as any Palarse fan would tell you. In your opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 29 minutes ago, bris red said: Its funny though because even that team suffered in a way the same as the current team is and that is scoring goals.. Neither Trundle or Adebola were out and out goal scorer's.. We did have the likes of Mcindoe and Sproule chipping in though i suppose! I think that was the key - no prolific goal scorers but a players scattered around the team who each contributed the odd goal here or there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 31 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Basically the original Freeman at this level. Seems that a lot of our fans get duped by players that flick their wavey hair about and can drop their shoulder from time to time. Yes, he could hold the ball and do a decent Cruyff turn but other than that, like Freeman, he had next to no end product at this level. Most definitely over-rated as can be seen by some of the gushing comments on this very thread. Horrible buy from Colin as any Palarse fan would tell you. Completely disagree here to be fair mate. Freeman is clearly a class above some of the players here, and while he does need a bit of development mentally, his physical ability while on the ball and his ability to hold possession will definitely have other clubs sniffing. Has the joint-most assists in our team, the latter of which we can all agree is not quite good enough. A couple more finishes from Jimmy and Freeman would be up there in joint 3rd in the league! A Guardian journalist once referred to him as a 'budget David Silva', and that's exactly what he is. Given that his job is to make incisive passes that will more often than not fail to come off, it is much more difficult to shine in his role (not unlike how it's difficult to shine in a DM role a la Carrick), so to some he might look a bit disjointed, but I think he's got great potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Nope, he wasn't. Considering where he came from he settled very quickly and showed some nice touches and got stuck in too. There was more to his game than 'dropping his shoulder' - wasn't it him getting his head stuck in which fed Noble the goal away at Palace? He wasn't the finished product by any means; he was rash and he did overplay it. And we did well selling him for double our outlay six months on. But equally let us not forget he was an attacking midfielder in a team where our top scorer got 8 wasn't it and consisted of attempts to assist (from the centre), dele, trundle, Byfield and occasionally Tamas Vasko!!!! I thought he was a good player. Not remarkable, by no means poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I thought he was pretty good when he played for us and I remember him putting in a few crunching tackles in the play-off games against Crystal Palace. I recall being a bit surprised that Palace were prepared to fork out £1 million for him, though - it felt like he was still finding his feet at Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Completely disagree here to be fair mate. Freeman is clearly a class above some of the players here, and while he does need a bit of development mentally, his physical ability while on the ball and his ability to hold possession will definitely have other clubs sniffing. Has the joint-most assists in our team, the latter of which we can all agree is not quite good enough. A couple more finishes from Jimmy and Freeman would be up there in joint 3rd in the league! A Guardian journalist once referred to him as a 'budget David Silva', and that's exactly what he is. Given that his job is to make incisive passes that will more often than not fail to come off, it is much more difficult to shine in his role (not unlike how it's difficult to shine in a DM role a la Carrick), so to some he might look a bit disjointed, but I think he's got great potential. I still think he's got potential but most of his assists are set pieces where he takes the majority. Those incisive passes? He makes them about 3 dribbles too late. That's why he's got potential. If he learns to play it quicker then we've got a real player. That and a bit of composure finishing. With his set piece ability and some of the positions he's been in, he should be around the 6-7 goals scored mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Very good player. Comparing him to Freeman is laughable considering many of Carle's best strengths were doing the dirty work. Notably being able to put in a proper hard tackle which Luke Freeman is incapable of, unless of course it involves drop kicking them in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I thought he was excellent for us, the problem was that he was one step ahead of the players around him at the time. One of those players that always had time on the ball, also very good at finding space. Shame we sold him for a quick profit, as he could have had a few good years here. One problem was that the manager at the time had a son who played in the same position........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 He was a strange one, when he first came and was playing on the right or in behind the striker I thought he was utterly pointless and had pushed Noble further away from the team which annoyed me. However right at the very end of the season and the play-offs when he went into central midfield alongside Marv I thought he did really well and looked a player. I have to say I was disappointed when we sold him, but you'd have to say hindsight would judge that we got that decision completely correct. Wasn't there some story about Warnock convincing Simon Jordan to part with his cash for Carle on the basis he was a 'goalscoring midfielder'. Jordan was then confused when finding out after Carle had scored for Palace that it was his first goal in English football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Andersons dietician Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I really rated him and thought he was fantastic in the away Palace play off game. Had a great mixture of flair and bite. Having said that, when he returned with Palace the following year and had a running battle with Mcindoe (apparently continuing outside the Atyeo) it was clear there were one or two clashes of personality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, Bo Andersons dietician said: I really rated him and thought he was fantastic in the away Palace play off game. Had a great mixture of flair and bite. Having said that, when he returned with Palace the following year and had a running battle with Mcindoe (apparently continuing outside the Atyeo) it was clear there were one or two clashes of personality! Not only a good player (as others have said, he was fantastic against Palarse in the play offs) but evidently a good judge of character as well if he disliked that little scrote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 hours ago, 29AR said: Nope, he wasn't. Considering where he came from he settled very quickly and showed some nice touches and got stuck in too. There was more to his game than 'dropping his shoulder' - wasn't it him getting his head stuck in which fed Noble the goal away at Palace? He wasn't the finished product by any means; he was rash and he did overplay it. And we did well selling him for double our outlay six months on. But equally let us not forget he was an attacking midfielder in a team where our top scorer got 8 wasn't it and consisted of attempts to assist (from the centre), dele, trundle, Byfield and occasionally Tamas Vasko!!!! I thought he was a good player. Not remarkable, by no means poor. Exactly right. One of the best strikers of a dead ball we've seen in many a season. He could "bend it like Beckham". As 29 hints in the quoted post, there were weaknesses in his game, but overall I think he was neither over- or under-rated during his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 3 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Thought he did OK for us....liked him I thought he was OK to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Super said: He would walk into this team now. Last thing we need.... We've had far too many players in City lineups who have walked more than they have run while playing for us, thanks very much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 10 hours ago, GrahamC said: No. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 10 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Basically the original Freeman at this level. Seems that a lot of our fans get duped by players that flick their wavey hair about and can drop their shoulder from time to time. Yes, he could hold the ball and do a decent Cruyff turn but other than that, like Freeman, he had next to no end product at this level. Most definitely over-rated as can be seen by some of the gushing comments on this very thread. Horrible buy from Colin as any Palarse fan would tell you. What's wrong with "flicking wavey hair"? Wished I could still do it For what it's worth I thought he was pretty good. And I guess the Messiah that only a few months ago so many wanted, must have thought so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Carle was a hard worker. Definitely not a Freeman type player, I think some people are likening him to LF because he has long hair and is left footed... His tackle in the first few minutes on Derry in the away leg of the playoff semi final really set the tone for the day, a huge nasty tackle and showed Palace they were in a game, Derry like a shrank and bottled the rest of the game, didn't want the ball with Carle anywhere near him. He was no world beater but a good solid player, I'd love to see a 2008 Nick Carle alongside Korey Smith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Goal every 12 games and assist every 6 from CAM. Not setting the world alight but as good if not better than freeman this season to be fair (1 goal, 5 assists in 30-something apps, and no assists (I think) from open play) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I liked him. We shouldn't forget that he was regularly played out of position in right midfield. When he was put in his favoured central midfield position he really shone for the last few games of the season. Shef Utd and palace both legs stick in the mind. Was really disappointed we sold him, but then the likely hood of him playing games in centre midfield the following season was unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ferret Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WsM-Red Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 11 hours ago, nebristolred said: Completely disagree here to be fair mate. Freeman is clearly a class above some of the players here, and while he does need a bit of development mentally, his physical ability while on the ball and his ability to hold possession will definitely have other clubs sniffing. Has the joint-most assists in our team, the latter of which we can all agree is not quite good enough. A couple more finishes from Jimmy and Freeman would be up there in joint 3rd in the league! A Guardian journalist once referred to him as a 'budget David Silva', and that's exactly what he is. Given that his job is to make incisive passes that will more often than not fail to come off, it is much more difficult to shine in his role (not unlike how it's difficult to shine in a DM role a la Carrick), so to some he might look a bit disjointed, but I think he's got great potential. A budget David Silva!? Is that if you've got no budget at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 'Budget David Silva' who cannot score or assist in open play. Someone pass me the sick bucket. Carle was a completely different player who really shone, I was gutted when he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 13 hours ago, bris red said: Its funny though because even that team suffered in a way the same as the current team is and that is scoring goals.. Neither Trundle or Adebola were out and out goal scorer's.. We did have the likes of Mcindoe and Sproule chipping in though i suppose! You have to remember that Marvin Elliott was peak and obvs as good as Yaya Toure. What a player Big Bad Marv was for us. Injuries ended him as he was a great, understated player. Imagine him and Korey Smith, they'd boss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Bo Andersons dietician said: I really rated him and thought he was fantastic in the away Palace play off game. Had a great mixture of flair and bite. Having said that, when he returned with Palace the following year and had a running battle with Mcindoe (apparently continuing outside the Atyeo) it was clear there were one or two clashes of personality! Carle probably wanted his money back . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 8 hours ago, WsM-Red said: A budget David Silva!? Is that if you've got no budget at all.. 7 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: 'Budget David Silva' who cannot score or assist in open play. Someone pass me the sick bucket. Carle was a completely different player who really shone, I was gutted when he left. You're seriously telling me, as a watcher of football, that you cannot see the similarities in the players? Even if one is clearly a lot worse than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 7 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: 'Budget David Silva' who cannot score or assist in open play. Someone pass me the sick bucket. Carle was a completely different player who really shone, I was gutted when he left. Really? I remember it as being like Milne & Cotterill - a welcome transfer fee out of the blue for nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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