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6 minutes ago, Red_Nine said:

Probably already been mentioned but was this always the deal and that's why he didn't play Saturday, but like the Brentford centre half that went to burnley last year

Andre Gay?

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5 minutes ago, TRL said:

15 million is great business. But not great business if Villa pip us for promotion (not for one minute I think we will get promoted this season) on the back of Kodjia's goals.

 

And there lays the problem. The club have stated we will not sell to competitors and if the unlikly happens and we are challenging for promtion and fail through lack of goals or villa pipping us 15 million is going to look like pittance compared to promotion.

 

All looks good at this moment in time. But history has a horrible tendency to bite you in the arse.

 

Personally if a slightly lower offer came from a premiership side I would take it (player permitting).

Certainly a odd predicament. I can't say I ever thought we we would be discussing such high values for a city player, so we must be doing something right somewhere 

 

 

The problem is your assessment forgets the main point in all of this saga is whether we like it or not in 99.9% of all similar cases the player has all of the power and the club very little if any at all, if the player has decided on Villa then ultimately Villa it will be, if a prem club comes in and he doesn't want to go that's that TRL, I would suspect that the only thing that would turn Jimmy's head now is more wonga end of.

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24 minutes ago, cider-manc said:

£15 Million!!!! Unreal amounts of money!

Tell you what though... a strike force of Kodjia and McCormack could be absolutely lethal in this division.

It should be! but one will be offside and the other moaning about it.

 

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2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

The problem is your assessment forgets the main point in all of this saga is whether we like it or not in 99.9% of all similar cases the player has all of the power and the club very little if any at all, if the player has decided on Villa then ultimately Villa it will be, if a prem club comes in and he doesn't want to go that's that TRL, I would suspect that the only thing that would turn Jimmy's head now is more wonga end of.

That is why I added (player permitting) ES I didn't forget that :)

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15 minutes ago, Rickyrobin said:

Stupid money flying around lately in the transfer market!! 20 years ago 15 million would have got you a lethal, young and hungry striker in Mr Alan Shearer!!! 

I just hope city don't get there pants pulled down when we come to replacing Kodj in the coming hours!!

20 years ago the average price of a house was c£66k. Today it's c£262k. Times change....


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property/article-3401038/House-prices-jump-300-20-years-Average-UK-property-gained-200k-1995.html#ixzz4IoJUqiEQ 
 

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5 minutes ago, Sarumred said:

SL is a business man and regardless of what he said £15m is too good to turn down. Let's face it, even in todays inflated marked JK is not worth that sort of money.

Nail firmly hit.

4 minutes ago, reformed_red said:

20 years ago the average price of a house was c£66k. Today it's c£262k. Times change....


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property/article-3401038/House-prices-jump-300-20-years-Average-UK-property-gained-200k-1995.html#ixzz4IoJUqiEQ 
 

Oh come on, that's like putting up the price of a can of coke to £5 and saying 'yeah house prices have gone up too'. McCormack and a couple of others aside, fees like we've seen in this window have generally been unheard of at this level in the past.

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1 hour ago, Ashtonwurzel said:

We have known he was leaving for at least couple of weeks, there must have been discussions with him and his agent when the bids came in during the Summer and eventually they have decided to force a move (removing BCFC history from his social media indicates thus).

Am confident we have 2 ducks lined up.

Do these footballers play cricket as well?

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5 minutes ago, Robin1988 said:

Oh come on, that's like putting up the price of a can of coke to £5 and saying 'yeah house prices have gone up too'. McCormack and a couple of others aside, fees like we've seen in this window have generally been unheard of at this level in the past.

Not really....

Given it was in response to someone comparing JK at £15m to Shearer in 1995/6.

 

I totally agree that this window we seen some mad money flying around, but we can't really compare it to transfers from 20 years back. 

Gradually prices for footballers have risen at the top level, and that is now filtering down into the second tier.

A better gauge all-round would be to work out the % of the transfer in relation to the buying clubs turnover, and compare it from 20 years ago to today. Personally, I don't have time to do that right now. But I'd hazrd a guess though that big transfers back in the day were a higher proportion than today though....

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1 minute ago, reformed_red said:

Not really....

Given it was in response to someone comparing JK at £15m to Shearer in 1995/6.

 

I totally agree that this window we seen some mad money flying around, but we can't really compare it to transfers from 20 years back. 

Gradually prices for footballers have risen at the top level, and that is now filtering down into the second tier.

A better gauge all-round would be to work out the % of the transfer in relation to the buying clubs turnover, and compare it from 20 years ago to today. Personally, I don't have time to do that right now. But I'd hazrd a guess though that big transfers back in the day were a higher proportion than today though....

No maybe that was excessive, but as you say, there is crazy money flying around this year.

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Report on Twitter saying it's done. £12m rising to £15m. Would be good business if true. Rumours of sell on to be between 20-40% of profit. 12-2 is 10. So 2-4m to Angers leaving us 8-10m to replace him plus an extra almost 2m if they are promoted. Can't complain with that unless we don't bring any strikers in but I can't see that. We seem far too organised. 

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25 minutes ago, Woodsy said:

I think SL was right to say that he wouldn't sell to a fellow Championship team, but come on, if you were in the hot seat you'd turn down £15m, when you've got a trio of people who are intent on bringing in young, talented, value for money replacements? 

I can imagine MA, LJ and Des (can never remember his surname!) sat down with a list now making phone calls.....what's not to like?

Thanks JK, but it's too good for both of us to turn down. Good luck

Lynam

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37 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said:

Does anyone know what the 'actual' sell on clause is, that Angers has on Kodjia? 

If it is 20%, then getting 15 million is fantastic for us, and them! 

French football journalist at the time that we signed him said it was 30% of any profit.

At that time the transfer was not big news outside of Bristol and Angers, so there is absolutely no reason to doubt what he said.

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6 minutes ago, Fat Cigar said:

Can we please ban all players from using social media? 

So Hordur (and subsequently Rich O'Donnell) can't publicise a collection for a young baby's funeral?

Try and at least think that statement through.. 

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34 minutes ago, reformed_red said:

20 years ago the average price of a house was c£66k. Today it's c£262k. Times change....


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property/article-3401038/House-prices-jump-300-20-years-Average-UK-property-gained-200k-1995.html#ixzz4IoJUqiEQ 
 

Here are our transfers from 20 years ago. Times definitely change.

IN

PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
Stuart Naylor West Brom Free 13 Aug, 1996
Shaun Goater Rotherham £175,000 17 Aug, 1996
Greg Goodridge QPR £50,000 19 Aug, 1996
Shaun Taylor Swindon £50,000 06 Sep, 1996
Paul Allen Swindon Free 16 Jan, 1997
Total: £275,000

OUT

PLAYER TO FEE DATE
Matt Bryant Gillingham £65,000 01 Aug, 1996
Richard Dryden Southampton £150,000 06 Aug, 1996
Wayne Brown Chester Free 30 Sep, 1996
Scott Partridge Cardiff £50,000 14 Feb, 1997
Alan McLeary Millwall Free 21 Feb, 1997
Kevin Nugent Cardiff £65,000 27 Jun, 1997
Total: £330,000
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1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

So Hordur (and subsequently Rich O'Donnell) can't publicise a collection for a young baby's funeral?

Try and at least think that statement through.. 

Not sure he meant it like that, I think more to do with transfers/football business etc.

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8 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

French football journalist at the time that we signed him said it was 30% of any profit.

At that time the transfer was not big news outside of Bristol and Angers, so there is absolutely no reason to doubt what he said.

So if it's £12m upfront then 30% of £10m = £3m. £7m profit for us + £3m of possible add-ons that presumably Angers would also get 30% of?

Suddenly £7m doesn't seem like an awful lot of cash to replace him...

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2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

French football journalist at the time that we signed him said it was 30% of any profit.

At that time the transfer was not big news outside of Bristol and Angers, so there is absolutely no reason to doubt what he said.

Unless you're talking about the well known local Angers journo - Andre Le Stockmaison

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1 hour ago, Portland Bill said:

SL has gone on record saying that he will not be sold to a Championship club.

Arent Villa in our league!!!!

They are way out of our league when it comes to stupid spending!

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31 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

In other breaking Championship news-

Derby have offered Russell at £9m, Rangers have offered  Martyn Waghorn at £7m and after discussions with Chelsea , BCFC have been cleared to buy Abraham for £48,000,0000

We're all thinking that Marina, but you had to go and say it....:sad26:

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1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I can see that, people get too hung up about that sort of thing. If SL had stuck rigidly to that we might not have ended up selling him at all and have been burdened with an unhappy player until Jan earliest.

What SL said is the mindset of the old Bristol City. Principled, but naive and not very effective in the transfer market.

Perhaps what SL said was in the knowledge that he had a player that was unhappy/had is head turned/just wanted to move on and said what he needed in order to ensure the club got the very best deal possible.

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7 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

So Hordur (and subsequently Rich O'Donnell) can't publicise a collection for a young baby's funeral?

Try and at least think that statement through.. 

I'd like players to show just a modicum of respect for the clubs they play for. More than that, for the fans. 

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Lansdown said no, no, no, to selling Kodjia to a Championship rival: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36942088

Jonathan Kodjia: Bristol City forward has £10m-plus price tag, says owner Steve Lansdown

Bristol City will not sell Ivory Coast forward Jonathan Kodjia for less than £10m, says owner Steve Lansdown.

The 26-year-old was the Championship club's top scorer last season, with 20 goals in 48 games in all competitions.

Lansdown also said the Robins would not sell Kodjia to any Championship clubs.

"It would have to be a mega price to prize him away and it would have to be a Premier League side," Lansdown told BBC Radio Bristol. "People have talked about five or six million - no chance."

The former Angers front man, who signed for the club in July 2015 for around £2m, played 90 minutes as City beat Wigan Athletic 2-1 on Saturday in their first match of 2016-17 and their first home game in the fully-redeveloped Ashton Gate.

"We wouldn't sell him to anybody in in the Championship because we're looking to compete in the Championship this year, and he's an integral part of that," Lansdown added.

"If it's not £10 million-plus, we're not even looking at it. If it's £10 million-plus from a Championship club, we're still not looking at it.

"If somebody comes in with the right offer, you've got to look at it."

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2 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

Lansdown said no, no, no, to selling Kodjia to a Championship rival: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36942088

Jonathan Kodjia: Bristol City forward has £10m-plus price tag, says owner Steve Lansdown

Bristol City will not sell Ivory Coast forward Jonathan Kodjia for less than £10m, says owner Steve Lansdown.

The 26-year-old was the Championship club's top scorer last season, with 20 goals in 48 games in all competitions.

Lansdown also said the Robins would not sell Kodjia to any Championship clubs.

"It would have to be a mega price to prize him away and it would have to be a Premier League side," Lansdown told BBC Radio Bristol. "People have talked about five or six million - no chance."

The former Angers front man, who signed for the club in July 2015 for around £2m, played 90 minutes as City beat Wigan Athletic 2-1 on Saturday in their first match of 2016-17 and their first home game in the fully-redeveloped Ashton Gate.

"We wouldn't sell him to anybody in in the Championship because we're looking to compete in the Championship this year, and he's an integral part of that," Lansdown added.

"If it's not £10 million-plus, we're not even looking at it. If it's £10 million-plus from a Championship club, we're still not looking at it.

"If somebody comes in with the right offer, you've got to look at it."

"If somebody comes in with the right offer, you've got to look at it."

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1 minute ago, Curr Avon said:

Lansdown said no, no, no, to selling Kodjia to a Championship rival: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36942088

Jonathan Kodjia: Bristol City forward has £10m-plus price tag, says owner Steve Lansdown

Bristol City will not sell Ivory Coast forward Jonathan Kodjia for less than £10m, says owner Steve Lansdown.

The 26-year-old was the Championship club's top scorer last season, with 20 goals in 48 games in all competitions.

Lansdown also said the Robins would not sell Kodjia to any Championship clubs.

"It would have to be a mega price to prize him away and it would have to be a Premier League side," Lansdown told BBC Radio Bristol. "People have talked about five or six million - no chance."

The former Angers front man, who signed for the club in July 2015 for around £2m, played 90 minutes as City beat Wigan Athletic 2-1 on Saturday in their first match of 2016-17 and their first home game in the fully-redeveloped Ashton Gate.

"We wouldn't sell him to anybody in in the Championship because we're looking to compete in the Championship this year, and he's an integral part of that," Lansdown added.

"If it's not £10 million-plus, we're not even looking at it. If it's £10 million-plus from a Championship club, we're still not looking at it.

"If somebody comes in with the right offer, you've got to look at it."

I see what your saying but if a Prem side comes in, like Hull for example for £10m but Villa say £15m? Its a no brainer, and we have already played them once :thumbsup:. Good business in my eyes.

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2 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

Lansdown said no, no, no, to selling Kodjia to a Championship rival: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36942088

Jonathan Kodjia: Bristol City forward has £10m-plus price tag, says owner Steve Lansdown

Bristol City will not sell Ivory Coast forward Jonathan Kodjia for less than £10m, says owner Steve Lansdown.

The 26-year-old was the Championship club's top scorer last season, with 20 goals in 48 games in all competitions.

Lansdown also said the Robins would not sell Kodjia to any Championship clubs.

"It would have to be a mega price to prize him away and it would have to be a Premier League side," Lansdown told BBC Radio Bristol. "People have talked about five or six million - no chance."

The former Angers front man, who signed for the club in July 2015 for around £2m, played 90 minutes as City beat Wigan Athletic 2-1 on Saturday in their first match of 2016-17 and their first home game in the fully-redeveloped Ashton Gate.

"We wouldn't sell him to anybody in in the Championship because we're looking to compete in the Championship this year, and he's an integral part of that," Lansdown added.

"If it's not £10 million-plus, we're not even looking at it. If it's £10 million-plus from a Championship club, we're still not looking at it.

"If somebody comes in with the right offer, you've got to look at it."

OK ... and your point is? I for one would prefer SL to go back on his statement to accept what is a colossal and stupid amount of money for a striker who hasn't yet learned to kick with his left foot.

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1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

French media reporting 20 million euros or £17 mil.

The football world has gone officially mad, I am not sure that Villa fans realise what they are actually getting.

Getting a very good 2nd division striker with the potential to be a Premier League striker in time. If his decision making was better last season he could of scored 50.

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2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

French media reporting 20 million euros or £17 mil.

The football world has gone officially mad, I am not sure that Villa fans realise what they are actually getting.

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2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

French media reporting 20 million euros or £17 mil.

The football world has gone officially mad, I am not sure that Villa fans realise what they are actually getting.

I know what their getting.

Stuffed on Saturday and shafted on Tuesday..

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The problem is money talks in football.an average player can be sold for mega bucks during silly season.Kodja not average so if someone comes in with silly money and player not happy move him on.SL did say he would not sell to another championship side. But let's face it anything in the £15m  bracket would mean a get return on last summers failed transfer window !!!

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2 minutes ago, RUSSEL85 said:

Getting a very good 2nd division striker with the potential to be a Premier League striker in time. If his decision making was better last season he could of scored 50.

You could say that about most strikers. If Freeman could make decisions quickly and well he'd be in the Premier League, if Flint could decide not to hoof the ball when distributing, he'd be in the Premier League. Decision making is much more important than is given credit. 

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1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

 

The point @Portland Bill is making is a simple one; don't say you won't sell to a C'ship club when you obviously would if the price is right...

I think at the time he had every intention of sticking to it, but when the player decides he is moving it changes things. 

It helps that the money appears to be ludicrous. 

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1 minute ago, Luxo Jr. said:

You could say that about most strikers. If Freeman could make decisions quickly and well he'd be in the Premier League, if Flint could decide not to hoof the ball when distributing, he'd be in the Premier League. Decision making is much more important than is given credit. 

Ok, Il change that to "Natural Ability", he has the ability to get to the Prem. I dont think Freeman does have that ability (Flint maybe)

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12:33
 
 

 

VILLA CLOSE ON KODJIA

It could be a busy/expensive couple of days for Aston Villa, who are close to signing striker Jonathan Kodjia from Bristol City for £15m.

A source close to the deal says he’s hopeful it will be completed before tomorrow’s deadline.

City signed the striker from Angers last summer for £2m.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said:

Here are our transfers from 20 years ago. Times definitely change.

IN

PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
Stuart Naylor West Brom Free 13 Aug, 1996
Shaun Goater Rotherham £175,000 17 Aug, 1996
Greg Goodridge QPR £50,000 19 Aug, 1996
Shaun Taylor Swindon £50,000 06 Sep, 1996
Paul Allen Swindon Free 16 Jan, 1997
Total: £275,000

OUT

PLAYER TO FEE DATE
Matt Bryant Gillingham £65,000 01 Aug, 1996
Richard Dryden Southampton £150,000 06 Aug, 1996
Wayne Brown Chester Free 30 Sep, 1996
Scott Partridge Cardiff £50,000 14 Feb, 1997
Alan McLeary Millwall Free 21 Feb, 1997
Kevin Nugent Cardiff £65,000 27 Jun, 1997
Total: £330,000

I tell you what, relative to our status/position at the time, that wasn't a bad window for 'In' was it? Naylor, Goater, Taylor... even Greg Goodridge 

Though did we really only sign Shaun Taylor 20 years ago? And sell Partidge the same window? That doesn't sound right to me

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3 minutes ago, Br1stolCityBoy said:

I know what their getting. Someone who constantly gets offside. 

Let's be real, they're getting someone who scored 20 goals for a struggling team which struggle to create anything for large swathes of the season. Kodjia is an excellent player and it will be a big loss if he leaves, irrespective of the transfer fee. I will wish him well.

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