Kodija - Departs for 11 Million (Merged)

[pride of the west]

2 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Kodjia will probably be in Africa on 28th January. Handy.

Or we could be in fa cup 4th round meaning he'd be back for rarranged game. 

[ZiderEyed]

Pants down.

[Silvio Dante]

Villa owners happy

Or drunk. I'm going for drunk..

[reformed_red]

Just now, billywedlock said:

I am far from happy he is going to a rival , really. However, what an idiot JK is, Villa are a club that could easily be relegated this year. They are a basket case of a club, he has gone for money, not football. He should have tried to get to the Prem. He is being badly advised. 

As much as I agree with most of what you say - I highly doubt Villa will be relegated.

 

Highly doubt.

[The Original OTIB]

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[Guest Jonesie]

Can see us going with the young Swedish lad and possibly waghorn and Abraham till Jan then spending if that doesn't work, Rhodes or assombolonga would cost at least what we have received for Kodjia and we wouldn't pay the £40k a week in wages both players would likely ask for

[Tears in rain]

This is an exceptional fee for city and is good buisness. However surely we can only perceive it to be good if we replace the two strikers we clearly need now. Otherwise losing his 20 goal threat will damage any aspirations of going up. 

Time will tell, but at least we learnt from the Maynard situation 

[Fat Cigar]

I have to say that whilst I'm grateful for his goals last season, I can't completely share in the good will. Mark Ashton says that we didn't want to sell. But Kodjia got distracted by the interest and agitated for a move. 

"We’ve continually told Jonathan that we don’t want him to go, but recently he’s made it clear that he’s aware of the interest of other clubs and that he wanted to leave."

Which leaves a sour taste. The erasing of City from his Instagram. Why? Was that really necessary? Another player having a strop for not getting his own way? I don't wish the guy ill but I can't wish him well either. He's been with us for one year. ONE YEAR! Don't think that warrants that much praise.

Did he ever give an interview? Stockhausen was saying last week that he never managed to interview him. 

The deal by the club is seriously unbelievable. An amazing piece of business. Kodjia is a decent player, but as I've said several times before, he's not that good, and from the evidence of this season, still needs to iron out all the familiar flaws. 

So, what type of reception do you think he deserves when we go to Villa?

1. Standing ovation.

2. Polite ovation.

3. Nothing. Ignored.

4. Booed. 

I'll be going for option 3. 

[downendcity]

19 minutes ago, reformed_red said:

Stockhausen reporting that Kodjia is in Hull for a medical....

Did he know whether it was with hull or Hull K R ?

[Fat Cigar]

4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Villa owners happy

Or drunk. I'm going for drunk..

He is a nightmare. Imagine working for him. 

[Lanterne Rouge]

Still hoping for Benik Afobe on loan, probably unrealistically.

[Kingswoodactor]

9 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Kodjia will probably be in Africa on 28th January. Handy.

Our game at Villa Park will be pushed back to a mid-week game I reckon, as 28th Jan is FA Cup Rd 2 weekend I think. 

Imagine that us or Villa will be in round 2 of the cup. Well you'd reckon 

[BRISTOL86]

5 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Villa owners happy

Or drunk. I'm going for drunk..

I though Tommy was banned?

[hantsred]

£11m up front + sell on money from Bolaise in the City bank - wow

Who would have thought that after the summer of spending, that we now have a net profit of several miliion!

Also have up to £4 m more from Kodjia + sell on fee part of deal for future revenue.

 

[robinreliant]

We move on ok ? It's how the club is run as a whole that counts. We are a well run club. Villa are a shambles of a club and now trying to throw money around to

try and solve the problem. They're problems can't be solved that way.

[Garland-sweden]

Hope we will end up higher than Villa in the table. Dont like this,think you say greedy in English. COYR!!!

[David Brent]

14 minutes ago, Tom said:

Because of the price limits etc he himself discussed. They had to announce that it was a lot of money (more than he said), so we don't lose face and we don't look like a selling club.

 

 

Despite the fee being absurd, I bet the Villa owner was happy to disclose it too.

[BCFC11]

1 minute ago, Kingswoodactor said:

Our game will be pushed back to a mid-week game I reckon, as 28th Jan is FA Cup Rd 2 weekend I think. 

Imagine that us or Villa will be in round 2 of the cup. Well you'd reckon 

You do know we don't enter until the 3rd round don't you?

[The Original OTIB]

2 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said:

Our game will be pushed back to a mid-week game I reckon, as 28th Jan is FA Cup Rd 2 weekend I think. 

Imagine that us or Villa will be in round 2 of the cup. Well you'd reckon 

my money is still on Africa.

[Malago]

Will be interesting to see if SL issues a press statement giving the reasons for the change of strategy re not selling to championship club.

[Kingswoodactor]

Just now, BCFC11 said:

You do know we don't enter until the 3rd round don't you?

All those years of league 1 football has muddled my brain 

[Esmond Million's Bung]

1 minute ago, Jonesie said:

Can see us going with the young Swedish lad and possibly waghorn and Abraham till Jan then spending if that doesn't work, Rhodes or assombolonga would cost at least what we have received for Kodjia and we wouldn't pay the £40k a week in wages both players would likely ask for

We don't have to pay that much in wages, it can be offset with large signing on fees.

The next 36 hours are going to be very interesting indeed and could define our season in many ways, certainly ours and the clubs views are on ambition.

One of the twitter transfer sites said yesterday at the prospect of selling Kodjia for such a juicy fee, BCFC intend to splash the cash.

I wait with baited breath.

[City_USA]

Bon Voyage JK. Excited for to se who LJ and MA have up their sleeves!  COYR!

 

[Dan Robin]

Good business, but a risky move: let's hope that his successor will be as good as him.

Anyway...I'm pleased that he choose Villa, instead of Hull.

[Gibbs]

3 minutes ago, Malago said:

Will be interesting to see if SL issues a press statement giving the reasons for the change of strategy re not selling to championship club.

Pretty obvious isn't it? Everyone has a price.

[View from the Dolman]

4 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

You do know we don't enter until the 3rd round don't you?

By R2, @Kingswoodactor means R4.

[downendcity]

When did we last sign a player who had such a massive impact, both on the pitch and financially so, in such a short space of time?

A year ago he was a complete unknown and a year later he's gone for £11m + which is absolutely astounding.

A big thanks and well done to JK for a fantastic first, and as it turns out, only season with us and all the best in the future. Perhaps a shame that his leaving is slightly soured if he was difficult in pushing for a move, but even so it is not unfair to suggest that his gaol were instrumental in keeping us up last season .

 

[BigTone]

1 minute ago, downendcity said:

When did we last sign a player who had such a massive impact, both on the pitch and financially so, in such a short space of time?

A year ago he was a complete unknown and a year later he's gone for £11m + which is absolutely astounding.

A big thanks and well done to JK for a fantastic first, and as it turns out, only season with us and all the best in the future. Perhaps a shame that his leaving is slightly soured if he was difficult in pushing for a move, but even so it is not unfair to suggest that his gaol were instrumental in keeping us up last season .

 

He was in gaol ?  The naughty boy !

Anyway, he's gone now so upwards and onwards

[Kingswoodactor]

1 minute ago, View from the Dolman said:

By R2, @Kingswoodactor means R4.

Yeah just saw on FA website. 28th Jan is R4 weekend.

So hopefully both us and Villa get knocked out in R3.

Much rather have the return league fixture on a Saturday, as we'd take a much bigger following.

[TNBT]

http://mobile.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/kodjia-departs-for-villa-in-club-record-sale-3280055.aspx

[BarnzFM]

8 minutes ago, Malago said:

Will be interesting to see if SL issues a press statement giving the reasons for the change of strategy re not selling to championship club.

11 million up front. That reason enough?

[Guest Jonesie]

5 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

We don't have to pay that much in wages, it can be offset with large signing on fees.

The next 36 hours are going to be very interesting indeed and could define our season in many ways, certainly ours and the clubs views are on ambition.

One of the twitter transfer sites said yesterday at the prospect of selling Kodjia for such a juicy fee, BCFC intend to splash the cash.

I wait with baited breath.

I would hope that's the case but as we seen with Tomlin that became quite a drawn out saga,  

as you state we have 36 hours to do this 1 big season defining deal, like you I wait in anticipation, just the realist In me sees us going with a couple of small price strikers until Jan, fingers crossed I'm proved wrong and Britt Assombolonga signs on .. That for me would really prove the ambition 

[Sir Colby-Tit]

Extra £4m if Villa avoid relegation? 

[BarnzFM]

6 minutes ago, Gibbs said:

Pretty obvious isn't it? Everyone has a price.

For the Million Dollar Man?

[downendcity]

12 minutes ago, Fat Cigar said:

I have to say that whilst I'm grateful for his goals last season, I can't completely share in the good will. Mark Ashton says that we didn't want to sell. But Kodjia got distracted by the interest and agitated for a move. 

"We’ve continually told Jonathan that we don’t want him to go, but recently he’s made it clear that he’s aware of the interest of other clubs and that he wanted to leave."

Which leaves a sour taste. The erasing of City from his Instagram. Why? Was that really necessary? Another player having a strop for not getting his own way? I don't wish the guy ill but I can't wish him well either. He's been with us for one year. ONE YEAR! Don't think that warrants that much praise.

Did he ever give an interview? Stockhausen was saying last week that he never managed to interview him. 

The deal by the club is seriously unbelievable. An amazing piece of business. Kodjia is a decent player, but as I've said several times before, he's not that good, and from the evidence of this season, still needs to iron out all the familiar flaws. 

So, what type of reception do you think he deserves when we go to Villa?

1. Standing ovation.

2. Polite ovation.

3. Nothing. Ignored.

4. Booed. 

I'll be going for option 3. 

5. City fans wear stripy tops, berets and a string of onions round their necks and sing La Marseillaise when the players come out.

[Roger Red Hat]

There is a lot of discussion around Aston Villa’s £15m capture of Bristol City strikerJonathan Kodjia. It is now being reported as an initial £11m with potential add-ons, but it still feels like a huge sum of money for a 27-year-old in the Championship. Villa now boast the two most expensive second-tier signings ever made, having bought the £12m Ross McCormack from Fulham earlier in the window.

“I’m sure plenty have written in with this but £15-17m gets you a 27 year old striker,” emails Sam Hedges. “One that has either proven themselves at Deportivo, or Bristol City. Surely that there is what is wrong with football? I know it’ll prove harder to get players to Villa, but still...”

[Malago]

1 minute ago, BarnzFM said:

11 million up front. That reason enough?

He is on record as saying an offer had to be at least £10 million and he'd only to sell to a Premiership club.  We sold to a championship club for £11m which to my mind says SL's word is only worth the £1 million.

[Dan Robin]

£15m or £11m? 

2 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

is now being reported as an initial £11m with potential add-ons

 

Ok.

[Fat Cigar]

2 minutes ago, downendcity said:

5. City fans wear stripy tops, berets and a string of onions round their necks and sing La Marseillaise when the players come out.

Great national anthem. One of the best. 

[Strawberry2157.]

15 minutes ago, Fat Cigar said:

I have to say that whilst I'm grateful for his goals last season, I can't completely share in the good will. Mark Ashton says that we didn't want to sell. But Kodjia got distracted by the interest and agitated for a move. 

"We’ve continually told Jonathan that we don’t want him to go, but recently he’s made it clear that he’s aware of the interest of other clubs and that he wanted to leave."

Which leaves a sour taste. The erasing of City from his Instagram. Why? Was that really necessary? Another player having a strop for not getting his own way? I don't wish the guy ill but I can't wish him well either. He's been with us for one year. ONE YEAR! Don't think that warrants that much praise.

Did he ever give an interview? Stockhausen was saying last week that he never managed to interview him. 

The deal by the club is seriously unbelievable. An amazing piece of business. Kodjia is a decent player, but as I've said several times before, he's not that good, and from the evidence of this season, still needs to iron out all the familiar flaws. 

So, what type of reception do you think he deserves when we go to Villa?

1. Standing ovation.

2. Polite ovation.

3. Nothing. Ignored.

4. Booed. 

I'll be going for option 3. 

3. He'll be in Africa. But 3 anyway even if he's not.

[Roger Red Hat]

Just now, Malago said:

He is on record as saying an offer had to be at least £10 million and he'd only to sell to a Premiership club.  We sold to a championship club for £11m which to my mind says SL's word is only worth the £1 million.

So you think it's a bad deal?

[hertsexile]

3 minutes ago, downendcity said:

When did we last sign a player who had such a massive impact, both on the pitch and financially so, in such a short space of time?

A year ago he was a complete unknown and a year later he's gone for £11m + which is absolutely astounding.

A big thanks and well done to JK for a fantastic first, and as it turns out, only season with us and all the best in the future. Perhaps a shame that his leaving is slightly soured if he was difficult in pushing for a move, but even so it is not unfair to suggest that his gaol were instrumental in keeping us up last season .

 

Good luck to Kodja sorry to see him go. Great impact on club during his brief stay. Not sure Villa right club. But they were prepared 

to pay the money !!! Let's hope we invest the money well. Young and ambitious with the right DNA !! Kodja had that too 

Great bit of business what a fantastic window we have had is still more to come ?

[Fat Cigar]

1 minute ago, Strawberry2157. said:

3. He'll be in Africa. But 3 anyway even if he's not.

Good point. It'll have to wait until the home fixture next season then...

[Welcome To The Jungle]

Hope we go for two relative unknowns upfront, maybe younger guys and spend no more than 4 million. That leaves us well in the black regarding transfers to balance the books and maybe we will turn a profit with the new stand for the first time in years.

[BarnzFM]

Just now, Malago said:

He is on record as saying an offer had to be at least £10 million and he'd only to sell to a Premiership club.  We sold to a championship club for £11m which to my mind says SL's word is only worth the £1 million.

We've sold him for up to 15 million, I don't get why you are moaning. It's a great deal whichever league we sell to. Perhaps he said we wouldn't sell to certain clubs to push the price up?

[BarnzFM]

2 minutes ago, Dan Robin said:

£15m or £11m? 

£11m upfront up to £15m with add ons 

[downendcity]

1 minute ago, Jonesie said:

I would hope that's the case but as we seen with Tomlin that became quite a drawn out saga,  

as you state we have 36 hours to do this 1 big season defining deal, like you I wait in anticipation, just the realist In me sees us going with a couple of small price strikers until Jan, fingers crossed I'm proved wrong and Britt Assombolonga signs on .. That for me would really prove the ambition 

Think it might be dependant on how far forward we were in contingency planning for Kodjia's departure.

If his leaving was anticipated and expected early in the summer then we may well have targets where we have already been in discussion with clubs and may be able to trigger a signing or two very quickly. If not then we may have players targeted as replacements but only  started the ball rolling as Kodjia's leaving became ever more likely a couple of weeks ago, but it might be more difficult to get deals over the line in this type of case because we are now so close to deadline day.

If the latter, then perhaps we might see a decent loan signing or two  and permanent signings worked on ready for the January window. 

[old_eastender]

Worth noting if the 4m add-ons include Villa getting promoted, we might not be seeing that extra money!

[Chivs]

5 minutes ago, downendcity said:

5. City fans wear stripy tops, berets and a string of onions round their necks and sing La Marseillaise when the players come out.

6. City fans dress up as Adam Ant and learn the words to Stand and Deliver

[Major Isewater]

18 minutes ago, Fat Cigar said:

He is a nightmare. Imagine working for him. 

I would for 45,000 quid à week 

[SecretSam]

£11m for someone who cost us what, £2m a year or so ago?  Good business.  Let's not kid ourselves, this is what we have to do.

Good luck to JK.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

2 minutes ago, Malago said:

He is on record as saying an offer had to be at least £10 million and he'd only to sell to a Premiership club.  We sold to a championship club for £11m which to my mind says SL's word is only worth the £1 million.

it's worth that 1 mil to ship out a player who clearly wanted to leave us and ship him out before some of the reported negativity entered into what appears to be a happy and together dressing room and I thank LJ and BCFC who if you ask me created this bidding frenzy with the clever way that they have handled this since about 2pm last Saturday.

[Malago]

5 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

So you think it's a bad deal?

i don't think it's a good idea selling one of your best assets to one of your main competitors.  Supposing we meet Villa in the playoff final and Jimmy scores the winning goal which takes them up.  The £11m minus 15% to the French, won't look so good then.

[spudski]

20 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

I am far from happy he is going to a rival , really. However, what an idiot JK is, Villa are a club that could easily be relegated this year. They are a basket case of a club, he has gone for money, not football. He should have tried to get to the Prem. He is being badly advised. 

Whilst I agree with your sentiment BW...I think it's more intricate than that.

A four year deal at JK's age is not to be sniffed at.

Plus...reading between the lines, it seems AV were the Club that agreed to our terms on how we wanted to be paid.

Other Clubs may have come in for him and offered a similar amount...but the structure of the payments may have been different.

It seems this deal suited all parties, to everyone's benefit.

There is also no reason why if he does well, that he could be bought by another Prem Club.

I know WBA were in for him, but have no idea of what they would give up front and how they would pay. Plus how long a length contract they offered to JK.

4 years is a bloody good contract to get at 27.

[Major Isewater]

19 minutes ago, Malago said:

Will be interesting to see if SL issues a press statement giving the reasons for the change of strategy re not selling to championship club.

[BCFC Grim]

Great business.

Not sure about wishing him well, he forces the move?

We will finish above Villa. 

[WarksRobin]

Does this potential £15m fee exceed the total aggregate income from all previous player sales?

[Ivorguy]

Well done City!   No good trying to keep a player who wants out.

No way on past career is he worth £11/15 m.

What a silly young man to leave a club on the up for a club on the way down, and who are highly likely to sack their manager at some point this season.  The same manager who has brought him into their club.

Still believe, on balance, he will be back in French football within 18 months.

Upwards and onwards, City.

COYR 

[Fat Cigar]

1 minute ago, BCFC Grim said:

Great business.

Not sure about wishing him well, he forces the move?

We will finish above Villa. 

Agree with all three points. With that attack, Villa *should* score goals, but they're also under a huge amount of pressure, and with that chairman in charge, you know stability is the last thing they'll be getting. 

[Andy082005]

27 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Villa owners happy

Or drunk. I'm going for drunk..

Great to read and pretty much proves what I thought all along.

playing in the Prem had nothing to do with it and all this unrest has solely been about one thing....money

Villa are a car crash and won't be back in the Prem any time soon

Great deal for us...but glad to get shot of him now 

[Rudolf Hucker]

11 minutes ago, Malago said:

He is on record as saying an offer had to be at least £10 million and he'd only to sell to a Premiership club.  We sold to a championship club for £11m which to my mind says SL's word is only worth the £1 million.

Moaners moan; trolls troll.

[Lanterne Rouge]

See the `SL always lies to us` brigade have come out from wherever they`ve been lurking.

Can`t wait to pick the negatives out of a positive some people.

[downendcity]

17 minutes ago, BigTone said:

He was in gaol ?  The naughty boy !

Anyway, he's gone now so upwards and onwards

productive tie pin Tone!

 

[spudski]

1 minute ago, Malago said:

i don't think it's a good idea selling one of your best assets to one of your main competitors.  Supposing we meet Villa in the playoff final and Jimmy scores the winning goal which takes them up.  The £11m minus 15% to the French, won't look so good then.

Or suppose we use the money from JK's sale, to find another like him, and he scores the winner against Villa in the play off's?

It's all if's and buts...He's had one season at this level... hasn't scored this season, and as has been reported, wanted to leave as his head had been turned.

What's the point of keeping a player if he wants to move and his heart isn't in it?

1 minute ago, billywedlock said:

He is 26

3 weeks off 27 mate...swings and roundabouts ;-)

[Guest rockinrobin]

2 minutes ago, spudski said:

Whilst I agree with your sentiment BW...I think it's more intricate than that.

A four year deal at JK's age is not to be sniffed at.

Plus...reading between the lines, it seems AV were the Club that agreed to our terms on how we wanted to be paid.

Other Clubs may have come in for him and offered a similar amount...but the structure of the payments may have been different.

It seems this deal suited all parties, to everyone's benefit.

There is also no reason why if he does well, that he could be bought by another Prem Club.

I know WBA were in for him, but have no idea of what they would give up front and how they would pay. Plus how long a length contract they offered to JK.

4 years is a bloody good contract to get at 27.

What a sensible post spud I think a lot of people forget about ffp and we need to keep turning deals over to be financialy sustainable in the Championship as well as what is good for the individual player.

What a trannfer window this is turning out to be.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

7 minutes ago, spudski said:

Whilst I agree with your sentiment BW...I think it's more intricate than that.

A four year deal at JK's age is not to be sniffed at.

Plus...reading between the lines, it seems AV were the Club that agreed to our terms on how we wanted to be paid.

Other Clubs may have come in for him and offered a similar amount...but the structure of the payments may have been different.

It seems this deal suited all parties, to everyone's benefit.

There is also no reason why if he does well, that he could be bought by another Prem Club.

I know WBA were in for him, but have no idea of what they would give up front and how they would pay. Plus how long a length contract they offered to JK.

4 years is a bloody good contract to get at 27.

Not according to this.

Pat MurphyVerified account‏@patmurphybbc

Duty bound to point out that @WBA are NOT in for Kodjia - nor ever have been. Apologies. Information can get garbled with meter ticking!

[RedorDead BCFC]

I loved JK when he was here, but he stated he wanted to leave. So I don't like him anymore so I can say it now. WTF was that bandaged arm thing for the ponce? 

[Malago]

1 minute ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Moaners moan; trolls troll.

The club finishing bottom of the prem gets £90m.  I would say our chances of reaching the prem are significantly lower today then they were yesterday.  If you think that's moaning and trolling I couldn't give a 

[downendcity]

8 minutes ago, Malago said:

i don't think it's a good idea selling one of your best assets to one of your main competitors.  Supposing we meet Villa in the playoff final and Jimmy scores the winning goal which takes them up.  The £11m minus 15% to the French, won't look so good then.

Unfortunately for Villa, Jimmy's 85th minute "winner" in the play off final is pegged back by 2 late Tammy gaols to seal promotion for Bristol City. That's Tammy's 35th goal of the season and triggers the cause in the loan deal whereby City can purchase Tammy on a permanent deal for £20m !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's all good I tell 'ee

 

[Citychuds]

13 minutes ago, Fat Cigar said:

I have to say that whilst I'm grateful for his goals last season, I can't completely share in the good will. Mark Ashton says that we didn't want to sell. But Kodjia got distracted by the interest and agitated for a move. 

"We’ve continually told Jonathan that we don’t want him to go, but recently he’s made it clear that he’s aware of the interest of other clubs and that he wanted to leave."

Which leaves a sour taste. The erasing of City from his Instagram. Why? Was that really necessary? Another player having a strop for not getting his own way? I don't wish the guy ill but I can't wish him well either. He's been with us for one year. ONE YEAR! Don't think that warrants that much praise.

Did he ever give an interview? Stockhausen was saying last week that he never managed to interview him. 

The deal by the club is seriously unbelievable. An amazing piece of business. Kodjia is a decent player, but as I've said several times before, he's not that good, and from the evidence of this season, still needs to iron out all the familiar flaws. 

So, what type of reception do you think he deserves when we go to Villa?

1. Standing ovation.

2. Polite ovation.

3. Nothing. Ignored.

4. Booed. 

I'll be going for option 3. 

The funny thing is that people on here have raved about Jimmy. But take away his goal scoring record and the man I saw was one who didnt want to learn English, didnt seem like he was all that pally with his team mates and actually should have scored quite a few more. I definitely wont go for option 4 but im not all that sad to see him go.

Dr Xia however will get number 1 treatment. A standing ovation from me every time I see him, I may even make up a little song for him