Guest Reds2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Just watching the West Ham game. They have a new badge, looks smart and very clear and clean. Our current crest is not easily reconisable and arguably out of date. I'm not suggesting we bring the robin back. But maybe we need something fresh and new now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, bs3 said: No and it's a NO from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Every week they should put a new Section82 sticker on the shirt. It would help sales for those collecting money for the match day atmosphere and every once in a while, SKY might have to make a onscreen logo that suggests Daryl interferes with dogs. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Actually we do have a new badge of sorts; i advocated simplifocation or cleaning up the detail about 2 or 3 years ago on this forum along with using just red and white.... They have done the latter but not the former and i think it looks a bit flat. Do both, maintaining the stylization, but clean it up.... Evolutionary... You still see and recognise it. Maybe next season they will do the second half of the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 That new West Ham badge is pathetic. Looks like it took them 5 minutes to make on microsoft paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Like this :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: That new West Ham badge is pathetic. Looks like it took them 5 minutes to make on microsoft paint. I like it. Really don't like the old Robin and bridge. Too cartoon like. A red silhouetted robin (think Spurs cockerel) with simplified lines to represent the bridge might work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 No from me as well. Quite happy with the current badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Alligator. We can change our nickname, or even name, to the Ashton Gators. (See what I did there?) Job's a good 'un... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM91 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Calculus said: Alligator. We can change our nickname, or even name, to the Ashton Gators. (See what I did there?) Job's a good 'un... We adopted the nickname "Robins" on a whim because of a song in the 50s. Ditched all our previous nicknames. Don't see why it can't be done again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidNoble Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I was thinking this the other day. Our current badge is very complex and detailed I do think it would help freshening it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 No. We've got a badge, serves us fine. Careful what you wish for, you'll end up with a badge that covers all the Bristol Sport clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 If we were to ditch the Bristol coat of arms there's a mob of scavengers in this city that would take it on. So it's a no from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: If we were to ditch the Bristol coat of arms there's a mob of scavengers in this city that would take it on. So it's a no from me. No they would not - they would not ditch their pirate as quickly as we dropped our robin and bridge - the same bridge we often use in pictures publicising the Gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reds2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, City169 said: Not recognisable? Without it being something ludicrous our badge won't be more recognisable than it currently is. And should we have sustained success it will be recognisable, that's how things work. Our badge isn't as recognisable as some because we have never been one on the big teams, but if you showed it to anyone who follows the championship/ a championship team they will know it, as would most fans of league 1 teams and probably league 2 fans as well. I understand what you mean. The badge is still complex though and not as stand out as say Swansea, wolves, arsenal, man city etc could go on Other clubs who have cost of arms as their crest looks messy in my opinion and I think we are just too familiar with ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, City169 said: but if you showed it to anyone who follows the championship/ a championship team they will know it, as would most fans of league 1 teams and probably league 2 fans as well. Well as it says Bristol City FC on it I would think you are correct. But if you took the words out and presented in black and white to hide colours I bet you will get a decent percentage say Yeovil, Cheltenham etc. I quite like the badge but it lacks the obvious club marks of the hammers, pirates etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, Reds2016 said: I understand what you mean. The badge is still complex though and not as stand out as say Swansea, wolves, arsenal, man city etc could go on Other clubs who have cost of arms as their crest looks messy in my opinion and I think we are just too familiar with ours. Man City's new badge is awful as well. Just a horrible copy of the New York City franchise. Old one was great and recognisable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reds2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 37 minutes ago, Red Exile said: No. We've got a badge, serves us fine. Careful what you wish for, you'll end up with a badge that covers all the Bristol Sport clubs. Well Bristol city and Bristol rugby have the same coat of arms crest now anyway ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 10 minute attempt to bring the badge up to date as a digital-ready, one-colour brand mark, with an authentic vintage feel and made more relevant to an OTIB audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reds2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, City169 said: No they don't? Both are based on the coat of arms, and I don't recall the rugby one changing recently, and it wasn't the same as our on the photo of the kit releases, so if it has changed it has changed in the last 48 hours and only you know about it. Didn't mean literally this season. Just in general they are very similar versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 West Ham have become an Americanised shadow of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: West Ham have become an Americanised shadow of themselves. I'd be absolutely gutted if I was a West Ham fan. Yes, the Olympic stadium will give the club the potential to finish higher in the Premier League, but is it worth it? Never in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Just now, Aaron-Bcfc said: I'd be absolutely gutted if I was a West Ham fan. Yes, the Olympic stadium will give the club the potential to finish higher in the Premier League, but is it worth it? Never in my eyes. I believe they have become Americanised, I never said the Olympic Stadium won't benefit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: I believe they have become Americanised, I never said the Olympic Stadium won't benefit them. The two points go hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lympsham Red Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 New badge? Pah! That's only the start! I say we rename ourselves to Bristol Sport AFC, and then continue on by renaming the rugby club Bristol Sport RFC, the women's football team Bristol Sport WFC and so on, until we all play under the "Bristol Sport" banner, with the twirly tornado thingy as our crest across the board. We can then proceed to rename Ashton Gate as "Bristol Sport Stadium connected by Vodafone", make our official club motto #MakingBristolProud, and make our club colours red and light blue. We can commission George Ezra to write us a new club anthem, entitled "One For The Bristol Sport", and change all our chants: for example, "City 'Till I Die" to "Making Bristol Proud 'Till I Die". Only then will I be satisfied with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Exile said: No. We've got a badge, serves us fine. Careful what you wish for, you'll end up with a badge that covers all the Bristol Sport clubs. Like that fanny thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lympsham Red said: New badge? Pah! That's only the start! I say we rename ourselves to Bristol Sport AFC, and then continue on by renaming the rugby club Bristol Sport RFC, the women's football team Bristol Sport WFC and so on, until we all play under the "Bristol Sport" banner, with the twirly tornado thingy as our crest across the board. We can then proceed to rename Ashton Gate as "Bristol Sport Stadium connected by Vodafone", make our official club motto #MakingBristolProud, and make our club colours red and light blue. We can commission George Ezra to write us a new club anthem, entitled "One For The Bristol Sport", and change all our chants: for example, "City 'Till I Die" to "Making Bristol Proud 'Till I Die". Only then will I be satisfied with the club. More of a vulva, than a twister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Lympsham Red said: New badge? Pah! That's only the start! I say we rename ourselves to Bristol Sport AFC, and then continue on by renaming the rugby club Bristol Sport RFC, the women's football team Bristol Sport WFC and so on, until we all play under the "Bristol Sport" banner, with the twirly tornado thingy as our crest across the board. We can then proceed to rename Ashton Gate as "Bristol Sport Stadium connected by Vodafone", make our official club motto #MakingBristolProud, and make our club colours red and light blue. We can commission George Ezra to write us a new club anthem, entitled "One For The Bristol Sport", and change all our chants: for example, "City 'Till I Die" to "Making Bristol Proud 'Till I Die". Only then will I be satisfied with the club. Now you are talking - this is the modern thinking we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Neo said: Well as it says Bristol City FC on it I would think you are correct. But if you took the words out and presented in black and white to hide colours I bet you will get a decent percentage say Yeovil, Cheltenham etc. I quite like the badge but it lacks the obvious club marks of the hammers, pirates etc The Cheltenham badge is a (very) stylised robin...nothing like our crest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reds2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Anyone would think we have Vincent tan in charge or that guy at Hull. I'm sure Mr. Lansdown respects the tradition in the club. But you never know. Many clubs have changed badges doesn't mean we'll be renamed 6 minutes ago, Lympsham Red said: New badge? Pah! That's only the start! I say we rename ourselves to Bristol Sport AFC, and then continue on by renaming the rugby club Bristol Sport RFC, the women's football team Bristol Sport WFC and so on, until we all play under the "Bristol Sport" banner, with the twirly tornado thingy as our crest across the board. We can then proceed to rename Ashton Gate as "Bristol Sport Stadium connected by Vodafone", make our official club motto #MakingBristolProud, and make our club colours red and light blue. We can commission George Ezra to write us a new club anthem, entitled "One For The Bristol Sport", and change all our chants: for example, "City 'Till I Die" to "Making Bristol Proud 'Till I Die". Only then will I be satisfied with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueredsupporter Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 After the fiasco with the # and away kit don't leave it with BS. probably add a booking fee as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lympsham Red Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I am not a big fan of this crest badge, it really does need improving but the club are going to keep this badge. I think they ought to do it like this It seems we have worn both badges in our history, we need to combine the 2 to make one really good badge a bit like the one posted earlier. Also with the true date of our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 hour ago, ZiderEyed said: West Ham have become an Americanised shadow of themselves. Eh? Why do you think that?! They have moved to a new stadium and their updated badge retains the two crossed hammers.... How does that make them 'Americanised'?! It's like the sags calling us 'plastic, franchise fans' - no justification for it whatsoever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reds2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Yep some people just want to live in the past and not progress/ move forward. They must watch black and white TVs and Hand dry their clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Not sure I like what West Ham have done, but had a go myself.... other iterations further below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Some people want to change EVERYTHING. I'm just starting to get over the sale of Bob Taylor, and now someone wants to change the club badge. FFS. Can't we let the dust settle ................ Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Absolutely yes, the badge is a generic crock of shit. Could be anyone I like the new West Ham / Man City badges, would be more than happy if we redesigned like they both have As much as I can't stand the ******* sight of it, you see the Pirate and you know it's the minnows. You see ours and it could be Burnley, Huddersfield, Bury or some other two bob looking northern power house badge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Woodsy said: Absolutely yes, the badge is a generic crock of shit. Could be anyone I like the new West Ham / Man City badges, would be more than happy if we redesigned like they both have As much as I can't stand the ******* sight of it, you see the Pirate and you know it's the minnows. You see ours and it could be Burnley, Huddersfield, Bury or some other two bob looking northern power house badge ....... image how the designer feels, reading this ............. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Taxi for Rennie said: ....... image how the designer feels, reading this ............. Uncle TFR Doubt if the designer gives a toss as he is probably still laughing all the way to the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Taxi for Rennie said: ....... image how the designer feels, reading this ............. Uncle TFR Constructive criticism.... 3 minutes ago, cider head said: Doubt if the designer gives a toss as he is probably still laughing all the way to the bank This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 52 minutes ago, Woodsy said: Absolutely yes, the badge is a generic crock of shit. Could be anyone I like the new West Ham / Man City badges, would be more than happy if we redesigned like they both have As much as I can't stand the ******* sight of it, you see the Pirate and you know it's the minnows. You see ours and it could be Burnley, Huddersfield, Bury or some other two bob looking northern power house badge Agreed...if you are going to use the coat of arms, it has to be done showing all the intricate detail, otherwise, like you say, it could be anyone. Plus the badges we have right now, look absolutely awful on the shirts. It's not 'modern'....it just looks cheap and tacky. Considering how much effort has gone into designing the great looking stadium, I'm surprised what we have now, badge wise, was agreed. It looks awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 17 hours ago, Lympsham Red said: New badge? Pah! That's only the start! I say we rename ourselves to Bristol Sport AFC, and then continue on by renaming the rugby club Bristol Sport RFC, the women's football team Bristol Sport WFC and so on, until we all play under the "Bristol Sport" banner, with the twirly tornado thingy as our crest across the board. We can then proceed to rename Ashton Gate as "Bristol Sport Stadium connected by Vodafone", make our official club motto #MakingBristolProud, and make our club colours red and light blue. We can commission George Ezra to write us a new club anthem, entitled "One For The Bristol Sport", and change all our chants: for example, "City 'Till I Die" to "Making Bristol Proud 'Till I Die". Only then will I be satisfied with the club. You forgot the cheerleaders, pigskin and helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reds2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Olé said: Not sure I like what West Ham have done, but had a go myself.... other iterations further below Top one looks great. Already an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 5 hours ago, Olé said: Not sure I like what West Ham have done, but had a go myself.... other iterations further below They look pretty good, I guess you do this for a living - have you tried the traditional coat of arms / badge but with a robin instead of the unicorns holding our city's crest (the territorial Robins, it's mine !!) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawey Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 On 8/21/2016 at 17:38, Reds2016 said: Just watching the West Ham game. They have a new badge, looks smart and very clear and clean. Our current crest is not easily reconisable and arguably out of date. I'm not suggesting we bring the robin back. But maybe we need something fresh and new now. of course we dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Piss off with the Robin. Swindon and Cheltenham are The Robins too. Let's be a bit more individual than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, Robin TBW said: Piss off with the Robin. Swindon and Cheltenham are The Robins too. Let's be a bit more individual than that. Individual like your username Robin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukneil Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Walking to the British Sweet Shop here in Bowmanville, Ontario with my 10 year old son, he brings up the subject of Man City changing their badge. I start telling him about our change of badge from a crest years ago to the Robin / Ball / Suspension bridge and now back to a crest again. Next thing out of his mouth - "Bristol Rovers should change their badge, so the sword (cutlass I correct) is facing the other way". "Oh so the pirate is stabbing himself" I ask. "Exactly", he says. While laughing out loud I was very proud of him and my parenting efforts, brought a tear to my eye. Anybody with more photo-shop prowess than myself, a little project for you perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 On 22/08/2016 at 18:10, Threshing Red said: Individual like your username Robin? Yes, the username has a double meaning. Hence the avatar of Batman's ally, Robin TBW - "The Boy Wonder" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 "Piss off with the Robin" There is a memorial to fans in BS3 featuring a Robin. Don't share that view round there in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Travelling to Burton from the North, at Sheffeld Station a group of Blades fans caught sight of our shirts, and the badge, and mistook us for Barnsley fans. Made me feel as though we needed a more recognisable badge that screamed Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 22 August 2016 at 16:43, Reds2016 said: Top one looks great. Already an improvement. I like the top one too @Olébut maybe not have the coat of arms armour on the bridge, leave that out altogether? or have the second one of the smaller images, with the lions holding the shield with a small Robin up on the bridge in place of the armour? Edit...I'm on a roll now...as I said with the Robin on the Bridge, but the football the Robin stands on could be the letter 'o' from Bristol, make the 'o' into a football. ok I'll shut up now, that's why I don't work in design or graphics ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, RedM said: but maybe not have the coat of arms armour on the bridge, leave that out altogether? Now that I've learned what it's about, I actually think it's the most important part of the traditional badge. At the traditional resolution I think most people think it's just a knights helmet with some yellow and green streamers attached to it like a Norwich City FA Cup. But actually the helmet 'depicts the armies that left Bristol in early history. The crossed arms over the crown hold scales in one hand, denoting justice and a green serpent in the other hand, indicating wisdom'*. Justice and wisdom, definitely red side of the city. *Ye Olde English: "upon the heaulme ... issuant out of the cloudes two armes ... in the one hand a serpent vert, in the other a pair of balance gold" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Olé said: Now that I've learned what it's about, I actually think it's the most important part of the traditional badge. At the traditional resolution I think most people think it's just a knights helmet with some yellow and green streamers attached to it like a Norwich City FA Cup. But actually the helmet 'depicts the armies that left Bristol in early history. The crossed arms over the crown hold scales in one hand, denoting justice and a green serpent in the other hand, indicating wisdom'*. Justice and wisdom, definitely red side of the city. *Ye Olde English: "upon the heaulme ... issuant out of the cloudes two armes ... in the one hand a serpent vert, in the other a pair of balance gold" That was my dilemma, the blend of the old tradition and the new. I'm not criticising you as the designer, but I think you are intelligent enough to know that, but I think if the coat of arms/ armour is to be included it needs to be more dominant/ have a reason to be there and make a statement as such, not looking like a secondary afterthought. Again I'm not explaining this very well, so please don't take offence. I guess if we were doing a really modern revamp then the traditional coat of arms etc wouldn't be included in such a detailed form if at all. But as you rightly say it would be a shame to lose it altogether. As I said to blend old and new isn't as easy as it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 To reflect our affiliation with Bristol Rugby the logical design would be a nice pair of Bristol's, sitting atop the BS vulva logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 And what's wrong with having this on the shirt? This is from the Bristol Babes nickname, given because of the youthfulness of the then squad and the Bristol Aeroplane Company's Bristol Babe biplane: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Nope What about the plane then? Front view like this: Picking up Bristol's aviation history, or we could also have Concorde as was made a feature of in the Bristol 600. This also reflects Somerset's history as the birthplace of powered flight (down in Chard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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