allyolly Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Sounds like our manager is not happy with certain players......who would be after letting a 2 goal lead slip? Also seems like he's not afraid to speak his mind which can only be a good thing in my opinion. A few interesting selection options for Saturday......what difficult decisions will LJ make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 O'Donnell and Flint maybe? At fault for goals 2 and 3 respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I think I'd play Moore over Little, I'd think about dropping Flint but probably not do it. Play Smith though. Especially if O'Neil is banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 well we don't have any real options up top. I suppose you just have to guess who the 2 players are. flint has cost us a few goals of late, maybe him, lee missing the pen was the turning point but players miss pens. we have options in defence and midfield so looking at lees face(like thunder), we will find out soon enough. at the end of it all, we got beat from a winning position against a side who have looked average so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 minute ago, leadman said: well we don't have any real options up top. I suppose you just have to guess who the 2 players are. flint has cost us a few goals of late, maybe him, lee missing the pen was the turning point but players miss pens. we have options in defence and midfield so looking at lees face(like thunder), we will find out soon enough. at the end of it all, we got beat from a winning position against a side who have looked average so far this season. Bit worrying if tammy picks up a knock,I wouldn't suggest Flint getting dropped if I was you,the forum police will be on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I worry that if Lee doesn't do something to help Flint then he will end up like Fonts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Lee sounds like a broken record sometimes, he knows the players not playing well enough, he can see we are shipping goals and not doing enough defensively and also not putting away all our chances. Make the changes and hopefully we'll see the difference, a loss against Derby will just yield the same words again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full nelson Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Bit worrying if tammy picks up a knock,I wouldn't suggest Flint getting dropped if I was you,the forum police will be on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Fielding in for RO'D, Moore in for Flint, Smith in for GO'N, Paterson in for O'Dowda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 As others have said I can see defensive changes for Saturday starting in goal. Assuming Fielding is 100% then he could start. RoD was at fault for the second goal last night and after the mix ups with Flint on Saturday his confidence looks shot. Flint seems to struggling as well and maybe spell on the bench is required. Ekstrand is fit again and maybe Moore is an alternative option but I'm not sure though whether LJ thinks he's ready for the SBC yet. We'll find out on Saturday. With GoN missing Smith is the obvious playing replacement but if Flint is dropped who steps up as leader? Decisions, decisions........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Korey Smith for the suspended Gary O Neil is a no brainer. Also if you were Fielding you'd be knocking on the manager's door after a tough week for ROD. It is only fair to let Frankie stake a claim for the jersey that is why you have two good keepers. I don't agree with dropping Flint. He has been immense for us and two dodgy performances do not warrant dropping an inspirational centre defender when the replacements are either untried at this level or building up full fitness. A fresh Freeman will probably be back in the team and Golbourne might start also. Moore for Little would make sense. Wholesale changes should be for clubs in crisis and that is not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 O'Donnell made a couple of mistakes but he also made some great saves. Flint looks out of sorts, LJ needs to have a word with him at least. Little (who looked decent going forward, less than decent when defending) and Tomlin may be sweating their place at the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 48 minutes ago, westonred said: Fielding in for RO'D, Moore in for Flint, Smith in for GO'N, Paterson in for O'Dowda Moore for Flint is a laughable suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I would suggest with a player the quality of Ekstrand waiting in the wings then it would be Flint. Otherwise if he isn't dropped after being at fault for 2 Saturday and probably 1 yesterday then the other players waiting in the wings will loose heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redandy Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 7 hours ago, allyolly said: Sounds like our manager is not happy with certain players......who would be after letting a 2 goal lead slip? Also seems like he's not afraid to speak his mind which can only be a good thing in my opinion. A few interesting selection options for Saturday......what difficult decisions will LJ make? Action not words count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Snufflelufagus said: I would suggest with a player the quality of Ekstrand waiting in the wings then it would be Flint. Otherwise if he isn't dropped after being at fault for 2 Saturday and probably 1 yesterday then the other players waiting in the wings will loose heart. Ignore the two great seasons and drop him after two games? Did zero wrong last night other than last goal after being bombarded. Someone about wants to drop our inspirational centre back for a kid, against Derby who have some great strikers, even though Flint played well last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Not sure Korey is fit looking at the third goal yesterday. He seemed to pull up. If so, I see Pack, Brownhill and Reid starting to bolster the middle of the park in O'Neil's absence. I have a feeling Flint may get experienced support rather than be dropped - 352 with Ekstrand coming in. 3 centre backs also helps ease Ekstrand back. Also enables Little and Bryan to have more of an attacking focus. I'm assuming Mathews isn't fit yet. I have a feeling Paterson may come in for Tomlin. I'd stick with O'Donnell given form before last Saturday. So: Rod Eks Flint Mag Little Bryan Reid Pack Brownhill Paterson Tammy (Of course it will be nothing like that and Tomlin O'Dowda Golbourne and Freeman will all start! Good to have options though!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 23 minutes ago, RedDave said: Ignore the two great seasons and drop him after two games? Did zero wrong last night other than last goal after being bombarded. Someone about wants to drop our inspirational centre back for a kid, against Derby who have some great strikers, even though Flint played well last night. What was great about his last season? Our defence was one of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, RedDave said: Moore for Flint is a laughable suggestion Can you explain why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Robbored said: As others have said I can see defensive changes for Saturday starting in goal. Assuming Fielding is 100% then he could start. RoD was at fault for the second goal last night and after the mix ups with Flint on Saturday his confidence looks shot. Flint seems to struggling as well and maybe spell on the bench is required. Ekstrand is fit again and maybe Moore is an alternative option but I'm not sure though whether LJ thinks he's ready for the SBC yet. We'll find out on Saturday. With GoN missing Smith is the obvious playing replacement but if Flint is dropped who steps up as leader? Decisions, decisions........ The SBC? Seriously?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 9 hours ago, hodge said: O'Donnell and Flint maybe? At fault for goals 2 and 3 respectively. As bad as O'Donnells mistake was....I can't think of to many other mistakes he's made this season to warrant being dropped. Flint on the other hand....I've said for a while now, he is not the player some people on here believe him to be. I personally want to see what Elkstrand has to offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 29 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said: The SBC? Seriously?? Hahaha. I've also seen the letter E sneak it's way into the forum too. That really gets to me. EPL, EFL. Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, eardun said: Not sure Korey is fit looking at the third goal yesterday. He seemed to pull up. If so, I see Pack, Brownhill and Reid starting to bolster the middle of the park in O'Neil's absence. I have a feeling Flint may get experienced support rather than be dropped - 352 with Ekstrand coming in. 3 centre backs also helps ease Ekstrand back. Also enables Little and Bryan to have more of an attacking focus. I'm assuming Mathews isn't fit yet. I have a feeling Paterson may come in for Tomlin. I'd stick with O'Donnell given form before last Saturday. So: Rod Eks Flint Mag Little Bryan Reid Pack Brownhill Paterson Tammy (Of course it will be nothing like that and Tomlin O'Dowda Golbourne and Freeman will all start! Good to have options though!) Not sure we need a change in formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: What was great about his last season? Our defence was one of the worst. When we went to four at the back that changed. You can't just look at stats and form an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Going by the comments, and not the performance, which I haven't seen, I think he's more unhappy with the mental strength of some players rather than the errors. I suppose he could be referring to a lack of concentration but I read it more as a tendency to disappear when the games get tough, which doesn't sound like Flint. It will be interesting to see what changes are made on Saturday, though it's probably important not to read too much into them at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 No one is undroppable and the team should be picked on form, so if LJ feels certain players are under performing, at least we are finally in a position where we have options in all positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Fielding will come in for O'Donnell. The latter shocking for the second goal. Tomlin will be dropped. For his performance; and whoever suggested the penalty situation should get a kick. Tammy is on such a hot streak he would have no doubt buried the penalty. Bryan will go into left midfield. Goldbourne to left back. Pack at fault with the corner goal as he did not jump with his man. He will stay in though. Smith will start for O'Neil and captain. O'Dowda out and Reid in on the right. I'd ship out Little as well but we don't really have an option there. I think Brownhill will stay in but I'd rather have Paterson behind Tammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I doubt if Smith or Ekstrand are fit enough to last for the whole match. LJs choices may not be as many as some may imagine. LT will be so wound up by missing that penalty and being substituted, that he may bounce back with a bravura performance against Derby - I would be surprised if Lee did not really get under his skin over this and to motivate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I think we'll get a reaction from Tomlin this Saturday, so keep him in the side. Paterson to start though in one of the wide roles behind Tammy please. As long as we're not playing against big Derby centre forwards, I'd have no problem in playing Moore alongside Maggers. Moore looked quick, confident, and composed when I watched him for England U-20's the other week. And after all, we did spend around 1.5 million for the lad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 9 hours ago, Pezo said: I worry that if Lee doesn't do something to help Flint then he will end up like Fonts. I think Flint is a stronger character than that, didn't start his City career that well but has improved year on year just a blip. Confidence is a key thing, not sure mass dropping of players will be on the on the cards . One forced change , and I think Smith may well start. The other changes would have been the normal ones LJ makes imo. Maybe one exception , Little has not impressed and I wonder if Moore may come in with Mathews still out . Lacking options at right back unless we go to a 3. Patterson is one I would expect to come in as rotation. Derby could be an important game, we could do with a win , good performance and a clean sheet. If only it was that easy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton’s Love Gravy Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 13 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: I doubt if Smith or Ekstrand are fit enough to last for the whole match. LJs choices may not be as many as some may imagine. LT will be so wound up by missing that penalty and being substituted, that he may bounce back with a bravura performance against Derby - I would be surprised if Lee did not really get under his skin over this and to motivate him. You may be a Bat Fastard but you raise a couple of very good points here... Time for a waffur thin mint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Murraysrightplum said: The SBC? Seriously?? Easier than typing Sky Bet Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 26 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: I doubt if Smith or Ekstrand are fit enough to last for the whole match. LJs choices may not be as many as some may imagine. LT will be so wound up by missing that penalty and being substituted, that he may bounce back with a bravura performance against Derby - I would be surprised if Lee did not really get under his skin over this and to motivate him. Indeed. The reality is five of the players who could come in - not just Smith and Ekstrand but also Matthews, Moore and Fiedling - aren't really match-fit at the moment and we may be a bit limited for changes. I'm a bit worried about our midfield on Saturday without O'Neill or probably Pack and, whilst I wouldn't be surprised if Ekstrand and Moore are first-choice by the end of the season, I don't think too much'll change come Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Don't know what LT's general game was like last night, but I wouldn't have thought he got the "hook" for the pen miss. I think it was more the worry that he might do something really stupid in his wound up state ! Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Cant see much changing for Saturday but its reassuring to know that we've got options, unlike 12 months ago and good quality options too! I think we will be fine squad wise, the biggest concern imho is the psychological effect of last nights game om the players. Remember in our last relegation season when we started off well, were scoring bagfulls but letting in stupid goals. Gradually, confidence slipped and our performances dipped leading us into a rut that we never got out of. How LJ handles the reaction to last night is the biggest test of his city career so far I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 17 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: Don't know what LT's general game was like last night, but I wouldn't have thought he got the "hook" for the pen miss. I think it was more the worry that he might do something really stupid in his wound up state ! Thoughts? Yup, I just said in another thread he was taken off before he got booked, which would have made him miss Saturday. So now with O'Neil out at least we have got Tomlin. I predict he will get booked on Saturday so has to sit the Fulham cup game out, yes he has got that predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, BCFC_Dan said: Going by the comments, and not the performance, which I haven't seen, I think he's more unhappy with the mental strength of some players rather than the errors. I suppose he could be referring to a lack of concentration but I read it more as a tendency to disappear when the games get tough, which doesn't sound like Flint. It will be interesting to see what changes are made on Saturday, though it's probably important not to read too much into them at this stage. I think you are right. And no it doesn't sound like Flint, he's no hider, nor is O'Donell I don't think either, he's getting a lot of critism but he's always very supportive and passionate on the pitch. Pack isn't a hider, nor is Joe. I think Magnusdon and Tammy would stand up and be counted too. Korey of old would be there for the team too. That's half the team I would be picking again for Saturday who I believe I could count on, so are the rest hiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 28 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Indeed. The reality is five of the players who could come in - not just Smith and Ekstrand but also Matthews, Moore and Fiedling - aren't really match-fit at the moment and we may be a bit limited for changes. I'm a bit worried about our midfield on Saturday without O'Neill or probably Pack and, whilst I wouldn't be surprised if Ekstrand and Moore are first-choice by the end of the season, I don't think too much'll change come Saturday. Not sure they'll ever be match fit if we never play them in matches. Unless they are still carrying injuries they should be in contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 34 minutes ago, Robbored said: Easier than typing Sky Bet Championship. Div 2 ( 'double entendre' fully intended .. soz Robbo ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Dropping a player doesn't need to be a personal decision. We all know these players have the ability, but we need to accept that form is temporary, and drop a player if they've not performed. If I were LJ I'd drop Flint and give either Moore or Ekstrand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 23 minutes ago, RedM said: Yup, I just said in another thread he was taken off before he got booked, which would have made him miss Saturday. So now with O'Neil out at least we have got Tomlin. I predict he will get booked on Saturday so has to sit the Fulham cup game out, yes he has got that predictable. Lucky we only paid 3 million for him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Fordy62 said: Hahaha. I've also seen the letter E sneak it's way into the forum too. That really gets to me. EPL, EFL. Jesus wept. E's are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I must have watched a different match then last night as Tomlin had a good game - the penalty was struck powerfully and as we know rebounded off the post (which can happen to anyone) Until then his link play and movement worked and Wednesday struggled to contain us. Little gets a lot of flak but from last nights display he didn't have a bad game at all...his weaknesses were there to be seen but this certainly was one of his better games. Hordour - the difference between him and Flint over the last few games is growing ever more apparent. He was strong, looked for the pass and I thought contained their forwards well. On reflection, the game management went out of the window and that's what I think LJ is alluding to more by saying some "crumbled". The experienced heads didn't slow the match down when we went to 10 men and tried to go toe to toe with an attacking Wednesday side who had a quality Bannan bypassing our midfield (as he did last season) after the sending off. Korey and Goldbourne came on to shore up the line and all we did was go even more gung-ho. Is it right to have question marks over Flint and O'Donnell? Yes it's legitimate after the last two games, however that doesn't mean we go in for the kicking that some are crying out they 'deserve'. The issue for Flint more so than O'Donnell is that we have much more depth in the squad to leave him out on Saturday. O'Neil should have known better than to tackle from behind (regardless of if he made contact with the ball) if any criticism is being dished out by LJ then I think it's more directed at him than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, The Original OTIB said: Tammy is on such a hot streak he would have no doubt buried the penalty. Quick question, have you ever seen him take a penalty? It's the complete opposite to instinctive tap-ins or headers, which have been the majority of Tammy's goals. It's a psychological battle with a keeper. We surely have no idea whether it's a strength of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry2157. Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Anyone there last night will tell you Korey isn't up to starting a full match, he was way off the game last night when he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry2157. Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 11 minutes ago, Charliesboots said: I must have watched a different match then last night as Tomlin had a good game - the penalty was struck powerfully and as we know rebounded off the post (which can happen to anyone) Until then his link play and movement worked and Wednesday struggled to contain us. Little gets a lot of flak but from last nights display he didn't have a bad game at all...his weaknesses were there to be seen but this certainly was one of his better games. Hordour - the difference between him and Flint over the last few games is growing ever more apparent. He was strong, looked for the pass and I thought contained their forwards well. On reflection, the game management went out of the window and that's what I think LJ is alluding to more by saying some "crumbled". The experienced heads didn't slow the match down when we went to 10 men and tried to go toe to toe with an attacking Wednesday side who had a quality Bannan bypassing our midfield (as he did last season) after the sending off. Korey and Goldbourne came on to shore up the line and all we did was go even more gung-ho. Is it right to have question marks over Flint and O'Donnell? Yes it's legitimate after the last two games, however that doesn't mean we go in for the kicking that some are crying out they 'deserve'. The issue for Flint more so than O'Donnell is that we have much more depth in the squad to leave him out on Saturday. O'Neil should have known better than to tackle from behind (regardless of if he made contact with the ball) if any criticism is being dished out by LJ then I think it's more directed at him than anyone else. I think there needs to be threads for those at the game & those listening on player!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, Strawberry2157. said: I think there needs to be threads for those at the game & those listening on player!! I watched it on Player and LJ should change the whole team for Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry2157. Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 24 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I watched it on Player and LJ should change the whole team for Saturday. I rest my case!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 7 hours ago, Robbored said: Easier than typing Sky Bet Championship. Why would you type either??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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