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15 minutes ago, cityexile said:

Agree with that. We seem only manage one good half each game. Got to be honest, did not remotely understand our starting eleven, (Freeman scores his first in like forever and is then rested), but even then we are making mid table sides look average, and still winning.

I do think LJ is over thinking it sometimes, but heck, getting the points on the board early.

Freeman was on his knees Tuesday, why flog him when we have others in the squad who can bring energy to the team . High energy pressing is our game .

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42 minutes ago, Acton Red said:

Are you really a cartographer? Excellent trade I would say and I am sure we are a better club with a cartographer in the support.

I was astounded and impressed by your sufficient calmness to talk about cartography in the 90th minute. 

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24 minutes ago, cityexile said:

Agree with that. We seem only manage one good half each game. Got to be honest, did not remotely understand our starting eleven, (Freeman scores his first in like forever and is then rested), but even then we are making mid table sides look average, and still winning.

I do think LJ is over thinking it sometimes, but heck, getting the points on the board early.

LJ is quite clever.

He sends his team out expecting us to be behind at half time. That way he can make substitutions to change the game second half, making him look a tactical genius.

It's a very cunning plan.

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Fantastic result. I felt problem 1st half was that O'Dowda, Reid and Paterson seemed to be trying to play the same free role, even though it was meant to be Reid I think. When Tomlin is there he seems to command that role. 

Fairplay to Johnson for switching it around with the players available to him. He appears to have a great knack for changing things if it's not going to plan. His learning I guess is how he gets it right from the off but for now it's great to know we have a manager and squad willing and able to change things around during the game and apply it.

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1 minute ago, bristolcitysweden said:

Nothing to do with cleaverness. Subs in general have an impact. More to do with guts to make them. And why did they not start? 

The days when our average sub seemed to ciome on at 86 mins are not missed.

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4 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

Nothing to do with cleaverness. Subs in general have an impact. More to do with guts to make them. And why did they not start? 

You set up one way, and to be fair for the first 3mins we looked like we could coast (without creating too much) . Then we lost our way a little and something had to change. We now have the squad to change shape, formation and focus and fair play to LJ for doing that. Just wish we could dominate possession in the latter stages so I could relax a little. 

They were poor !

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7 minutes ago, Flagon said:

Fantastic result. I felt problem 1st half was that O'Dowda, Reid and Paterson seemed to be trying to play the same free role, even though it was meant to be Reid I think. When Tomlin is there he seems to command that role. 

Fairplay to Johnson for switching it around with the players available to him. He appears to have a great knack for changing things if it's not going to plan. His learning I guess is how he gets it right from the off but for now it's great to know we have a manager and squad willing and able to change things around during the game and apply it.

Rafa commented that we have a coach and players able to change tactics successfully mid game , more than once if necessary, which was why he kept it tight at AG. Praise indeed.

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8 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

Nothing to do with cleaverness. Subs in general have an impact. More to do with guts to make them. And why did they not start? 

He flooded the team with pace and one touch players who have skill but can get knocked off the ball. It could have worked, but Reid does not create as much space for Abraham as Tomlin, or hold the ball as well.  Pack seemed less positive in his passing than against Fulham or Leeds and had his poorest game for some time and goldbourne had a poor half re getting decent crosses in. 

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Another excellent result, and again in the face of early adversity. 

This team really have spirit, and married with what looks to be a head coach canny enough to alter things at the right moment, this means we always stand a chance.

I'll say what I've said before; the fact we've not even got Smith or Mathews properly back yet (nor have seen much of Engvall either) means we've not even been able to pick from a fully fit squad, and yet we're giving it a right go.

As always the 'Magic 50' is the number I'm most concerned about, and nice to be getting closer to that.

But you have to ask; is are the favourites in this league as 'clear cut' as many made out pre-season?  I'm not so sure.

LJ's revolution rolls on, and I cannot think of a better game to return to after the two week break; love a chance to get at Cardiff.

Another small point; I was wary of the last three games - I saw them as a barometer of progress, as in the corresponding fixtures last year we'd won under LJ at Fulham, dramatically drawn at home to Leeds under Cotts, and got one of our rare pre-regime change wins home to Forest.

My hope was we could match the points tally we got from the same matches last year, which would suggest we were changing and professing if not improving.  But we've only gone and bettered those results, and now Cardiff away (a dull draw under SC last campaign) leaves us the opportunity to improve again.  I really hope we can take it.

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So today I got off the train at Parson Street Station and walked to the ground, on the way I looked up and saw Pattersons (the catering equipment supplier) in Winterstoke Road, at this exact moment I had a remarkable premonition. I had already sensed we would win 2-1 then, for some reason, at that very moment, I knew Pato would get the winner!

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It's early days, but I feel quite confident about City's season : the lads are showing their quality on the pitch, but they also seem to have a strong personality (especially when they get come-back wins) and good team spirit.

Let's continue in this way! :thumbsup::city:

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

So today I got off the train at Parson Street Station and walked to the ground, on the way I looked up and saw Pattersons (the catering equipment supplier) in Winterstoke Road, at this exact moment I had a remarkable premonition. I had already sensed we would win 2-1 then, for some reason, at that very moment, I knew Pato would get the winner!

Me to. Got the feeling 2-1 and Paterson to score the last one. We are à good team and hard to beat. Hope Cardiff game Will be in television. Think we Will win there. Always believe, Coyr!!!

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Good win today against what seemed to be a very average Forest team. It was a poor first half from us and I was worried that maybe LJ had made too many changes from midweek, but he altered things at half time  and overall we were the better side.

What composure from Tammy for our equaliser and a great move for Paterson's goal (well deserved too after his recent performances). Brownhill did very well at right back. Things are looking good.

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We made hard work of it in the first half with so many mistimed or miscued passes in the final third, really showed how we missed Tomlin and that Reid isn't accurate enough to be an understudy for him in the no 10 role.

A definite lack of width meant we kept trying to play through the middle and didn't have the quality to do it properly.

Second half we switched to a more direct mode of play and gave Tammy some room by putting Wilbraham up there too.

It allowed us to grind out a win against a mediocre side, so well done to LJ for changing things early enough to turn the game.

Brownhill did well at right back but I was surprised we didn't bring Matthews on to be honest, he's a specialist in that role and if he can't play 45 minutes he shouldn't be on the bench.

Paterson again did well and the interplay with Abraham for the goal was lovely.  

Overall a better result than performance for me, but another 3 points and flying higher than anybody had any right to expect this season.  Well done City.

The referee and linesmen were notably bad, missing blatant fouls and giving several incorrect offsides and Forest were as bad as I've ever seen them.

 

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3 hours ago, havanatopia said:

Interesting OK thanks

18,900 ... wow.. poor, very poor. That takes us below Forest on average attendances then and below the 20k mark.

How's it very poor ? Leeds had 600 more than forest of which the crowd was 19,500 , was that poor too ?

We are increasing the crowds well, will take a while.

Lot of people who didn't go saying it was poor , get a ticket 

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BTW towards the end of the game, what did I miss

 

O'Dowda had the ball, he was running width wise across the pitch about 15 ft from the half way line, Reid made a sudden run and suddenly you think the easiest thing in the world is for O'Dowda to put the ball just about anywhere in the oppositions half and Reid is 1v1 with their keeper.. he totally wrong footed the whole Forest Defence - instead O'Dowda continues his run, turning into our half and half a dozen players, half pass/tackle later and Flint has to save his ass as Forest look to break.

 

Did I misread what happened, it just looked so perfect, but looked like 

O'Dowda:  Nah sorry Reid...... 

 

BTW if Reid want's the central/Forward AM role he needs to stop other players pushing him out of it by them not playing their positions and trying to do his job,,, Tomlin would not have let Patterson / O'Dowda / Brownhill get away with some of the positioning today... ok they had good games, but the congestion and number of players trying to do that role was stupid at times.

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35 minutes ago, Cov 77 said:

How's it very poor ? Leeds had 600 more than forest of which the crowd was 19,500 , was that poor too ?

We are increasing the crowds well, will take a while.

Lot of people who didn't go saying it was poor , get a ticket 

Get me an airline ticket and I will .

I think both were poor yes but i blame the club for charging too much for pay on the day.

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2 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

So today I got off the train at Parson Street Station and walked to the ground, on the way I looked up and saw Pattersons (the catering equipment supplier) in Winterstoke Road, at this exact moment I had a remarkable premonition. I had already sensed we would win 2-1 then, for some reason, at that very moment, I knew Pato would get the winner!

I must admit I did not know that there was a train from Jersey to Parson Street :)

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46 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

Get me an airline ticket and I will .

I think both were poor yes but i blame the club for charging too much for pay on the day.

How is it poor?

When was the last time we averaged 20k crowds?

If, as I expect we end up with an 18k average, that is progress and a decent rate. 

Stay in the top 6 and the average will be higher than that. 

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2 hours ago, WhistleHappy said:

Hmm, this ain't lookin 'grate' mate, who said there's no smoke without fire?

My girlfriend said the first thing I said to her when she came home from work was that City was winning 2-1 rather then the reason 8 firefighters was outside our house and I almost set it on fire haha 

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7 hours ago, havanatopia said:

Blimey 2 on one thread and when i were a lad it were top of my career desires; i then found out the salary scale and decided the Ordnance Survey was not for me.

It seems to work in reverse this close to the equator; the Philippines are small and perhaps that is why the place feels and is hugely over-crowded.

I think the justification is the loss of Tomlin; perhaps Brownhill will be more creative than O'Neill. I applaud Lee's boldness. GON can always come on if it needs greater solidity.

Oh god I wouldn't go near the OS Hav! I work in civil engineering. 

Maps rule. 

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Best quotes from forest forum!

 

Cure Boy "we need a paterson type player...."

Siforest65 "I expected us to lose today. Midweek against Fulham was more damaging."

and captain sinister replying to some else "

Devils advocate - would you rather have Paterson on the wing or one of Dumitru/Carayol/Lica/Osborn?

Paterson every time.
Knows how to beat his man, knows how to lay off a killer pass, knows how to finish.

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5 hours ago, Acton Red said:

Are you really a cartographer? Excellent trade I would say and I am sure we are a better club with a cartographer in the support.

Thank you! :-)

Yep within civil engineering. Mon-Fri Railways & Roads, Sat Coopers & Atyeo 

Think I started dreaming about the play-offs today... 

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2 hours ago, havanatopia said:

Get me an airline ticket and I will .

I think both were poor yes but i blame the club for charging too much for pay on the day.

Your joking. We haven't had such good attendanceas for years.

I agree the club should of made season ticket prices slightly lower but they are still good.

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22 minutes ago, milo1111 said:

Your joking. We haven't had such good attendanceas for years.

I agree the club should of made season ticket prices slightly lower but they are still good.

Season tickets don't need to be any cheaper. POTD could be less. Or at least not classing Forest as a "Gold category" game. That is poor. 

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9 hours ago, milo1111 said:

Your joking. We haven't had such good attendanceas for years.

I agree the club should of made season ticket prices slightly lower but they are still good.

Correct.

I was not advocating cheaper season tickets; only cheaper pay on the day.

8 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

Season tickets don't need to be any cheaper. POTD could be less. Or at least not classing Forest as a "Gold category" game. That is poor. 

This + should

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Have to agree that pricing for POTD is probably about £5 over the top, and I do think the club has missed a trick. However we still are getting good crowds and that's something to be proud of, as long as we do well then the crowds will maintain.

As for the game I thought that was the worst Forest side I've seen at AG in 20 years, even their L1 side had more potency than they did!

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