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2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Some people losing a sense of realism on here I think. We are a side that stayed up with a decent couple of months at the end of the season . Now delusions of grandeur with statements like we should be beating QPR and Cardiff teams that were in the prem a few years ago. 

We'll finish mid table and I'll be happy with that to be honest. We're Bristol Citymind not man city . 

Cardiff had won 1 in 8 until they met us and QPR had won once at home all season.

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2 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

Really could and should have won that, Yet somehow we lost. What is it with us? We only seem to start playing when we go behind. Tonight was another example of that. 

Think it was more a case of QPR sitting back after getting in front than us playing better after tbh... hopefully Korey will be fit soon as we could really do with him in the middle in games like tonight's and Cardiff. Also need Engval fit, as Wilbs (try as he might) does not offer us much nowadays.

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8 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Well he should have scored it - it's a discussion forum and people are discussing the game. The second anyone says anything realistic (not even that negative) about 10 people spring out the woodwork with this nonsense every time. People are allowed to point out things city have done badly / could have done better without thinking we're sh*t and being "negative *******" you know... Sounds like you need to get a grip to me.

Now take your pills and settle down love it'll look better in the morning . We play 46 games , if people don't think we'll have a blip then they're deluded. It's football it happens. 

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16 minutes ago, cynic said:

He was a friggin yard off the line against Cardiff and waited for the ball to hit him rather than attack it - that should have been slammed into the net.

 

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He ran into the box, the ball hits the ground bounces and as it's coming back down he readies to tap it in, instead Bamba gets a touch causing the ball to rise high and cannon of Reid's body - 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

Now take your pills and settle down love it'll look better in the morning . We play 46 games , if people don't think we'll have a blip then they're deluded. It's football it happens. 

And those people didn't say it wasn't a blip... You've just made that assumption. People are just commenting on the game on a discussion forum, no need to be so condescending it doesn't make you sound smart.

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It's the Championship. I never expect to win a game in the Championship, no matter who the opponent is.

Sounds like Tammy needs a rest, and Engvall needs to get fit. And a right back who can track his runner. So what we knew already, really.

I wouldn't automatically rush to 4-4-2, watching the Cardiff match it wasn't the formation that was the trouble, it was that we were trying to play everything through the middle, and the wide attacking midfielders didn't utilise the wings. 

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4 hours ago, havanatopia said:

Good day everyone,

This is without doubt the saddest match day thread I have ever written. I have no possibility to even begin to study and research our opposition this evening. Clearly you will all ask why that should be.

Yesterday at 0730 UK time my 95 year old father died. 

Dad was a Burma RAF veteran who served as a Corporal Radio operator directing the Bristol Beaufighters in to bomb the Japanese positions in what ultimately became the longest battle of the Second World War; The Imphal Kohima campaign. Relatively little was written about this long struggle yet the victory that ultimately followed turned the tide of the war in Asia. My father, although one might consider had a great innings, was taken a little before I wanted him to go. He also wanted that letter from the Queen and I wanted to write his memoirs.

He was a life long Bristol City fan. Let us win tonight and win promotion for him, for Gerry Gow for all those who will not see the promised land again.

God bless everyone and god bless my Dad. I miss him too much already; back to Blighty it is for me next week and I shall watch a City match as a result entirely in his honour.

Love to all.

Rich.

Rich, just logged on, sorry to hear of your Dad's passing, as an ex RAF guy myself , another one of our squadron has left us. Accept my condolences. May he find his peace in the great beyond and may you find peace in all your memories. I lost my dad who first took me to AG in 1957 ( and was Fleet Air Arm in the 39-45 War) in 1995 and miss him to this day. God Bless

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As it was being suggested. Can LJ do a Warnock and find a out of contract striker? Warnock managed to get 4 when the window was closed.

Must be somebody decent out there to link up with Tammy??

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3 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

And those people didn't say it wasn't a blip... You've just made that assumption. People are just commenting on the game on a discussion forum, no need to be so condescending it doesn't make you sound smart.

I haven't made that assumption at all , there's always a massive overreaction on here to a defeat especially two on the bounce and it's pathetic imo . If we lose 5 or 6 on the spin fine but we haven't have we. 

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6 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

We are what we are, a mediocre mid table championship side.

Ah well, up at 5 for work so off to bed.

I have to say  I will be very happy to be mid table particularly  if Tammy has some injury problems.

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1 minute ago, BCFC in my DNA 1957 said:

As it was being suggested. Can LJ do a Warnock and find a out of contract striker? Warnock managed to get 4 when the window was closed.

Must be somebody decent out there to link up with Tammy??

Odemwinghe surely could do a job for us. He apparently is willing to play in league 1.

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Well, that's disappointing. I know he's a young lad but Tammy HAS to do better there, pretty piss poor giving the ball away that easily in our half. 

But on the whole, that's probably a fair result. Looked like we carried on from Friday night!

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I think Tammy Abraham has masked how distinctly average a team we really are. Of course we weren't going to win most games but the disappointing thing for me is that our two losses have come from teams 14th or worse with I think two home wins combined this year so far. They aren't good teams but they've gotten the better of us. We are way too quick to go to the long ball. We have all sorts of issues and now that TA(inevitably) has been slowed down we truly see the team we are. 

So if I'm being honest, Tomlin hasn't done enough so far this year. For his fee and wage, we should be getting much more. Bryan and Magnusson have slowly regressed these past 4-5 games. GON needs to be off our free kicks and since the red card I haven't seen him at his best. We have had a fair few players lose form the past few matches and it's a bit worrying. It's not inconceivable we fall back into a relegation fight if this continues another 3-4 games. Harsh but it's the reality of the championship. We were 9 points clear at the start of the night with teams like Blackburn and Villa getting 3. 

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 Today was a tough game  it Sounds like our luck has ran out  , going from the radio it seems it was  Qpr were the better team especially the 2nd half .

I don't think we are playing any worse then when we won previous games but  Tammy can't do it all on the scoring front. We also haven't scored many goals from free kicks or corners this season. I also think it is time LJ stuck with a consistent midfield and stuck with it. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

I haven't made that assumption at all , there's always a massive overreaction on here to a defeat especially two on the bounce and it's pathetic imo . If we lose 5 or 6 on the spin fine but we haven't have we. 

How is it an overreaction to say the last 2 games were against teams we could have expected something from?.

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I wasn't at the game, didn't listen on the radio, but saw a few highlights on Sky. Usually I blame Bobby Reid, but today I'm blaming Callum O'Dowda, Didn't have a touch in the 45 seconds I saw. Just pointless, don't think he was up for it.

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28 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

You got to love our lot, a couple of below par performances and look at all the negative ******* on here . Oh he should bury that or that's not good enough blah blah most on here probably couldn't trap a bag of cement mind. Get a grip for **** sake. 

Thats football fans in general , not just our lot . Get carried away when we're winning and over-react at defeats . Man City's forum is no different .

Thats why we love football ! 

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3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Well you panic or flap about it if you want and it makes you feel better but after 40 odd years of following City I won't be. 

Mate as Nick is trying to tell you, you seem to be inventing stuff, please show me where in any of my replies to you I have panicked or flapped, I am merely pointing out that the last 2 games are games we could have expected something from and your best shot is we never beat QPR.

By the way try 50 odd years.

 

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I think it's easy to be negative after a loss but the truth is we just didn't have our flow tonight. QPR made a few changes and I wonder if we were prepared for a different match to the one we got.

I also think a lack of support/relief for Tammy is starting to show and, whilst it is the last thing I expected to say at the start of the season, I think we're missing Little and the width he gives us at right-back.

 

It's not a disaster but we need to improve. QPR's sub left back looked poor in particular and we didn't capitalise.

 

On the positive side, I thought Bryan showed a lot of commitment and desire late on but overall we didn't do well enough. But we can and have done much better and will do so again.

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1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

How is it an overreaction to say the last 2 games were against teams we could have expected something from?.

Because you shouldn't expect anything against any team especially in this league . If you're 5 or 10%off the pace in this league you'll get beat simple as that . Who do you think we are saying you expect certain results. Like I said delusions of grandeur with some on here. 

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1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Translation please.

Meaning I'm more confident of beating a struggling Blackburn side that have won tonight, than I was of beating Cardiff or QPR with both teams being due a win.

Cardiff for reasons we all know was going to be difficult.

QPR not won at home since the first game of the season meant sooner rather than later they were going to beat somebody (us)

Blackburn have been shit all season, so them coming to us Saturday and not as desperate as they were will somehow hopefully work in our favour.

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2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Because you shouldn't expect anything against any team especially in this league . If you're 5 or 10%off the pace in this league you'll get beat simple as that . Who do you think we are saying you expect certain results. Like I said delusions of grandeur with some on here. 

Well said.

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3 minutes ago, Luxo Jr. said:

Really? I've not seen many of the recent games, but Magnusson still looked assured to me in the Cardiff match, one mistimed hoof aside.

For me, yes and Magnusson has been one of my favourites. He just hasn't looked as calm to me and I didn't watch tonight I did sound like he was a little nervous on the broadcast. Joe hasn't looked the same since Leeds when he was up against Sacko for 90 minutes. My personal opinion anyway. We won a few of those last games but we haven't looked  the better side in awhile now. Loads of good teams in the division but with the money spent and how everyone talks you expect better a bit more often. I do anyway. I expect better performances against teams like Cardiff and QPR. Every situation is different and I appreciate that but seems like our philosophy has changed a bit to be better defensively which is fine but hasn't quite worked. 

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4 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Whats his others then?

Mate I'm not even answering that . You can't have watched any games this season if you think Luke freeman is only good for taking set pieces. 

You aren't the city fan who rings up radio bristol after the game slags all the players off then says I didn't go to the game , are you??

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Gutted to lose. But really! They are all tough games and we lost by the odd goal in the last two away match's and we are papering cracks, wheels are off etc etc.

You go again. 45 years (Edit 49) of this doesnt make me hurt less but does make me shake it off faster....We should have scored at least one of three good chances.

LJ not happy with Tomlin offside those are the breaks, we will get our reward in the coming weeks....I'm off for a pint for @havanatopia s dad and look forwad to Satdee!

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Last season we were at the bottom of the table but look how we pulled ourselves out. So where we are now nearer the top the lower teams are where we were and are doing exactly the same as we did, pulling out all the stops and taking as many scalps as they can. So the games are harder for us defending our position from the bottom teams, as they have nothing to lose but we do.

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2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Mate as Nick is trying to tell you, you seem to be inventing stuff, please show me where in any of my replies to you I have panicked or flapped, I am merely pointing out that the last 2 games are games we could have expected something from and your best shot is we never beat QPR.

By the way try 50 odd years.

 

I'm not pointing at you directly about flapping sorry if it came across like that but a culmination of posts really. It's especially the comments saying we should expect to get results , it baffles me. 

If you been watching us ten years more than me then you should know better as well :disapointed2se:

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4 hours ago, havanatopia said:

Good day everyone,

This is without doubt the saddest match day thread I have ever written. I have no possibility to even begin to study and research our opposition this evening. Clearly you will all ask why that should be.

Yesterday at 0730 UK time my 95 year old father died. 

Dad was a Burma RAF veteran who served as a Corporal Radio operator directing the Bristol Beaufighters in to bomb the Japanese positions in what ultimately became the longest battle of the Second World War; The Imphal Kohima campaign. Relatively little was written about this long struggle yet the victory that ultimately followed turned the tide of the war in Asia. My father, although one might consider had a great innings, was taken a little before I wanted him to go. He also wanted that letter from the Queen and I wanted to write his memoirs.

He was a life long Bristol City fan. Let us win tonight and win promotion for him, for Gerry Gow for all those who will not see the promised land again.

God bless everyone and god bless my Dad. I miss him too much already; back to Blighty it is for me next week and I shall watch a City match as a result entirely in his honour.

Love to all.

Rich.

I've been half working, half following the match tonight, so I didn't see this until now.

My condolences to you and your family, mate. No matter what their age, you never want them to go.

By coincidence my father-in-law also passed away yesterday. About the same time.

Somerset Light Infantry in his case. Saw active service in the Malayan emergency. His photo album from out there makes for gruesome viewing. The old feller was always very critical of the noisiness of actors pretending to be US soldiers in various Vietnam films. "If we'd bin shoutin' and hollerin' like that on jungle patrol we'd 'ave been dead in five minutes," he told me. Three days of total silence was what they did - and no smokes!

Anyway, shame City didn't rise to the occasion to honour the two grand old servicemen, but while their life's battle is over, City will continue to march on and on, and hopefully get a home win for thee and I!

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3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

I'm not pointing at you directly about flapping sorry if it came across like that but a culmination of posts really. It's especially the comments saying we should expect to get results , it baffles me. 

If you been watching us ten years more than me then you should know better as well :disapointed2se:

What I do know is we haven't beaten Blackburn since 1991 I believe, so we must be doomed.

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Feel a little sorry for Tammy, yes he lost the ball (happens) but the space they exploited was because we bombed down the touchline when there was no pass on - another day Tammy lays of the ball, and the player hits a long ball down the touchline and we are free and way... today, means we had no-one in LB position when he lost the ball

 

 

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although if he had passed it to the players free, they could have made that pass down the line....

 

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1 hour ago, Ivorguy said:

Tomlin is an embarrassment.  This is NOT the City way.  If he refuses to learn I for one would like to see him offloaded in January, but I would sooner he grew up

Think you need to take that sh1t back......just saw highlights, shocking decision by ref.

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3 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

What I do know is we haven't beaten Blackburn since 1991 I believe, so we must be doomed.

So waz reckon a win is due?

Unreal that were still in the top six after two straight defeats. So a win Saturday will have us looking at the table.

A defeat mind, well 3 in a row will mean meltdown on here!!!

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Two sub par performances but far from anything to get too worried about. Watching tonight I did feel we got pretty much outmuscled all over the pitch and when we don't move the ball fast enough it gets scrappy and we didn't compete as hard as they did in the 50-50s....we didn't match up well at the start really. They were the better side in my opinion and deserved the win but a good reaction on Saturday and we will be back on track. 

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We still haven't lost a league match this season by more than one goal, thats how close games can be in this league.  I am happy with our season so far, and feel it will get better once we don't just rely upon  aa 19 year old to score all our goals. Players are settling in and LJ is doing a great job.  As for the someone who suggested that Tomlin should be offloaded in January?………….If you message me, I can recommend a pretty reasonably priced psychiatrist.

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21 minutes ago, Out of his pie crust said:

Watching it live I thought he chose the jump option above the broken ankle option. Could be wrong though, haven't seen a replay!

Not seen a replay either. I absolutely abhor diving and will criticise any of our players who do it but, at the time, I was absolutely convinced the QPR lad lunged at him and he went down as a result of that (be it jumping out the way or being hit).

I really felt he was hard done by.

More generally, I thought Tomlin was a victim of his own standards tonight. He showed some great skill and looked our more threatening player but none of his passes quite had their intended result. I'm loathe to overly criticise him though - I thought it was just one of those nights.

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2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

Not seen a replay either. I absolutely abhor diving and will criticise any of our players who do it but, at the time, I was absolutely convinced the QPR lad lunged at him and he went down as a result of that (be it jumping out the way or being hit).

I really felt he was hard done by.

More generally, I thought Tomlin was a victim of his own standards tonight. He showed some great skill and looked our more threatening player but none of his passes quite had their intended result. I'm loathe to overly criticise him though - I thought it was just one of those nights.

Tomlin certainly wasn't our weakest player 

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I'd like to say again many thanks to all of the wonderful comments about my Father. All very much appreciated. I do also wish to apologise for not replying individually especially the poster who I believe lost a father in law (step forward again sir if you may) and so my equal condolences go to you.

I hope I can catch a match as I head back early next week for the funeral on Thursday.

Normal service should be resumed tomorrow and I hope for City also.. we need to get back to winning ways.

All the best everyone.

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