Clevedon Red Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: It did meltdown as well, went off just after the final whistle. Cleaners took out the wrong plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, MattRSp95 said: I'm being pretty optimistic here but I don't see us getting 50 points with the games we have left I think we've got the players to do it but we need the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Didn't realise LJ denying a fall out with LT !! Only witnessed by most of the team , the bench , backroom staff and numerous supporters !!! Laughable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Let's see what excuses the 'Johnson Believers At All Cost' come up with to excuse him this time ..., New Signings need time to settle ? Bad referee ? Pressure ? Bad Luck ? Still need another transfer window and '4 or 5 in ' ? Its all the players fault ? Lee Johnson way way out of his depth IMO - Totally clueless how to turn this around - Should have gone after Xmas If something doesn't change very very soon - we are clearly going down Complete Joke and if it happens , may rank as the most shameful relegation ( Considering players signed etc ) in living memory Never understood this, there was never any reason to ever 'believe' in LJ with his previous managerial record, so why would any fan have EVER done so? Absolute joke of an appointment from day 1, always 95% guaranteed to end in disaster. So depressingly predictable. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Obviously he needs to go. Needs to happen now so new guy get a free game in the cup to test things and prepare for the Sheff Wed game. Would have thought Rowett is the obvious option - knows the league and would have dreamt of having the kind of resources that LJ has enjoyed. As others have said - can't argue with SL on generosity and MA on business done - but pointless if it's not brought together effectively on the pitch. After more than a year we still lack consistency in formation and selection I.e he does not really know what he is doing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Listening to that (and I'll bow to anyone there if I'm wrong...) but we sounded poor and toothless. This was the Rubicon - If we'd managed to overcome Forest today, we'd have taken a first step away from trouble. But instead we are now in the thick of it, and with sides like Blackburn and Wigan picking up form, and with Cardiff and QPR pulling clear the rest of the season is a game-by-game fight to stay up. Johnson isn't the right man for us; we need a new head coach, I fail to see anything else we can do to escape relegation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said: I have been hoping for a while that things will turn around because I wanted LJ to succeed. Unfortunately I am now also moving into the LJ out camp I have moved into that camp. Today was his last chance. The worst run of form for 120 years is more than any manager should hope to survive. And I just can't see a win coming under him. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, willitonciderhead said: For me, being a patient and loyal person, the Sheff Weds match will be the clincher, lose that game and I'm afraid my patience and loyalty will be spent. Sad to say as I was really hopeful LJ would be right for the long term, but I feel that he has come up short! Why don't we just keep giving him 1 more game ffs... can't you see he's clueless, we look clueless... how has he turned a very talented side into this blithering mess??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Job for Cotts? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: That really made me laugh. It was the same after the game on Tuesday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willitonciderhead Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: If we wait that long, then (pardon the crudity), SL can go **** himself. I'm just not quite there yet to feel totally happy with LJ going, for me one more home match and that is it for me. I can then sleep at night knowing that he has been given the best chance to turn it around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, willitonciderhead said: For me, being a patient and loyal person, the Sheff Weds match will be the clincher, lose that game and I'm afraid my patience and loyalty will be spent. Sad to say as I was really hopeful LJ would be right for the long term, but I feel that he has come up short! nice play on words there come up short I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Didn't realise LJ denying a fall out with LT !! Only witnessed by most of the team , the bench , backroom staff and numerous supporters !!! Laughable And the Wolves bench. But it didnt happen. No siree. Johnson said so. He's full of BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said: I think we've got the players to do it but we need the plan. Agreed squad should be capable but not currently doing the job... scanning over the fixtures and saying we can beat Rotherham, Beat Burton is how I got to the 48 mark but that's a stretch. Worrying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, willitonciderhead said: I'm just not quite there yet to feel totally happy with LJ going, for me one more home match and that is it for me. I can then sleep at night knowing that he has been given the best chance to turn it around? This is not project make LJ a management career. This is about Bristol city making progress. We are a disaster in progress... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Why don't we just keep giving him 1 more game ffs... can't you see he's clueless, we look clueless... how has he turned a very talented side into this blithering mess??? What has changed from the start of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Today I expected at least a point: losing these sort of games is not acceptable, for a team that wants to keep its place in the Championship. Probably Johnson is making a lot of mistakes, and probably some players have lost confidence in him....so at this point, I think he should be sacked. That being said...I'm starting to believe that our team's problems are worse than we think: maybe too many players are not good enough to keep City in this league. Even without a manager on the bench, we should be able to gain points against sides like Cardiff,Ipswich,Forest, etc. Edited January 21, 2017 by Dan Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, cityloyal473 said: And the Wolves bench. But it didnt happen. No siree. Johnson said so. He's full of BS. Unless there was two occasions , which is highly likely , I'm on about Huddersfield !!! LJ is clueless and LT is a big mouth who was never a good fit at this club Get rid of both ASAP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, willitonciderhead said: I'm just not quite there yet to feel totally happy with LJ going, for me one more home match and that is it for me. I can then sleep at night knowing that he has been given the best chance to turn it around? We are running out of matches. This is urgent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said: I have moved into that camp. Today was his last chance. The worst run of form for 120 years is more than any manager should hope to survive. And I just can't see a win coming under him. Yep, same here. I don't hate the bloke or anything like that and certainly can't be doing with the almost gleeful self righteous smugness that a few on here are demonstrating, but this is unacceptable and can't be allowed to continue. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Reluctantly today I have moved from in to out. It just can`t be allowed to continue like this. I wanted him to succeed, I really did but it clearly isn`t working. Kenny Jackett for me - might not be pretty to watch but it will get us what we want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, MattRSp95 said: What has changed from the start of the season? Ummmm... ?!? Are you sure!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 How did Fabian Giefer perform seeing as he was thrown it aty the deep end for his first game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: Unless there was two occasions , which is highly likely , I'm on about Huddersfield !!! LJ is clueless and LT is a big mouth who was never a good fit at this club Get rid of both ASAP Thought it was Wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, MattRSp95 said: What has changed from the start of the season? The players don't want to play for him, I have said this for weeks now. They want him out and the only way they know how to do this is to lose. I don't agree that players should do this, but I am sure this is what is happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I have moved into that camp. Today was his last chance. The worst run of form for 120 years is more than any manager should hope to survive. And I just can't see a win coming under him. Dead manager walking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willitonciderhead Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Why don't we just keep giving him 1 more game ffs... can't you see he's clueless, we look clueless... how has he turned a very talented side into this blithering mess??? Yep, I understand where you are coming from. With the new signings I was hoping it would give a lift to the team???? I think what I am saying is I would just love things to work out for LJ, not just for him but for the club, supporters and long term stability. Just gutted really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willitonciderhead Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, pillred said: nice play on words there come up short I like it I wondered who would pick up my little quip, :laugh:. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, cityloyal473 said: Thought it was Wolves. I remember people quoting Lambert being astonished by something said at Wolves but LTs behaviour at Huddersfield would see him sacked in any other job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, Northern Red said: Yep, same here. I don't hate the bloke or anything like that and certainly can't be doing with the almost gleeful self righteous smugness that a few on here are demonstrating, but this is unacceptable and can't be allowed to continue. That's exactly my feelings, NE. We have to conclude that very sadly, Lee cannot get the best from his players. When things started going wrong, he panicked and I think that's rubbed off on the team. What we need now is a "Mr Motivator". 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I have moved into that camp. Today was his last chance. The worst run of form for 120 years is more than any manager should hope to survive. And I just can't see a win coming under him. Agreed. The situation we are now in, we now MUST beat Rotherham on Feb 4th, and see that kick start a run which will have to involve winning nearly half our games to stay up. And right now; I honestly don't think we will get anything from any game, and that is due to LJ. Get someone in now, then they have two games to run the rule over the (decent looking) squad, before that crunch game and beyond. I wish it had worked out, but it hasn't; Johnson out. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, 'keepuplino' said: Ummmm... ?!? Are you sure!!! I'm curious as I haven't been in a while.. I'm a student and I came a lot in the early season last game I watched was end of November. (Slate me all you want) I can't work out what's gone wrong from then till now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: The players don't want to play for him, I have said this for weeks now. They want him out and the only way they know how to do this is to lose. I don't agree that players should do this, but I am sure this is what is happening. I don't believe that is the case, at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said: That's exactly my feelings, NE. We have to conclude that very sadly, Lee cannot get the best from his players. When things started going wrong, he panicked and I think that's rubbed off on the team. What we need now is a "Mr Motivator". Sadly, and I mean sadly, for the first time I think I've drifted into this camp. Last thing I wanted, but I fear the end is nigh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: The players don't want to play for him, I have said this for weeks now. They want him out and the only way they know how to do this is to lose. I don't agree that players should do this, but I am sure this is what is happening. Seems plausible! Difficult for me to judge as I can't see reactions and body language of players without going to games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Yep, same here. I don't hate the bloke or anything like that and certainly can't be doing with the almost gleeful self righteous smugness that a few on here are demonstrating, but this is unacceptable and can't be allowed to continue. Spot on. Can't be doing with the silly and petty insults, but that doesn't mean I can't see that we need someone else in as head coach. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, ontariored said: How did Fabian Giefer perform seeing as he was thrown it aty the deep end for his first game? did you not see the free kick going in ? He was not in position as he was checking his boots.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, MattRSp95 said: I'm curious as I haven't been in a while.. I'm a student and I came a lot in the early season last game I watched was end of November. (Slate me all you want) I can't work out what's gone wrong from then till now How about bizarre coaching methods and PowerPoint presentations to footballers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Fiale said: did you not see the free kick going in ? He was not in position as he was checking his boots.... I know he's tall, but I don't think he'd have saved that shot anyway. That said, you should be at least ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said: How about bizarre coaching methods and PowerPoint presentations to footballers? Again im unaware of this but seems to be a way to lose the dressing room or something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I don't believe that is the case, at all! So what is your opinion then? Why is it that a team that was performing well, not brilliantly I must admit, but steady and in a good position in the League, suddenly start to lose and continue to lose. They seem to have no passion or confidence and all that is down to the management. Players don't just start to play badly overnight or all of them lose form at the same time. You tell me what other reason there is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, samo II said: Spot on. Can't be doing with the silly and petty insults, but that doesn't mean I can't see that we need someone else in as head coach. Aye. It's time for a change, but let's have a bit of class. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: The players don't want to play for him, I have said this for weeks now. They want him out and the only way they know how to do this is to lose. I don't agree that players should do this, but I am sure this is what is happening. I don't think that is the case at all. The quality wasn't there today and nor was the strategy but the players could not have tried harder in the last ten minutes. I'd question whether the belief is there but the desire certainly is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, Full nelson said: Tool Tools are useful. This troll is a ****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I don't think that is the case at all. The quality wasn't there today and nor was the strategy but the players could not have tried harder in the last ten minutes. I'd question whether the belief is there but the desire certainly is. Belief is what it's all about and they don't believe in LJ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, EstoniaTallinnRed said: So what is your opinion then? Why is it that a team that was performing well, not brilliantly I must admit, but steady and in a good position in the League, suddenly start to lose and continue to lose. They seem to have no passion or confidence and all that is down to the management. Players don't just start to play badly overnight or all of them lose form at the same time. You tell me what other reason there is? The look of despair on the players' faces after the Cardiff game didn't reveal a lack of effort, Flinty had his head in his hands. I think the lack of form is basically down to the tactics, constant changes, possible fallouts and a lack of confidence, which is obviously getting worse as the bad run continues. They certainly aren't losing on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: The look of despair on the players' faces after the Cardiff game didn't reveal a lack of effort, Flinty had his head in his hands. I think the lack of form is basically down to the tactics, constant changes, possible fallouts and a lack of confidence, which is obviously getting worse as the bad run continues. They certainly aren't losing on purpose. Agree with this. The players are giving their all. But the tactics, team selection, preparation, constant tinkering is all wrong. And thats down to one person. He must carry the can and be gone tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I don't believe the players aren't playing for Johnson, I do believe he's hasn't a clue as to what system suits, players to put out or how to get the best out of any of them. @MattRSp95 I think more than a few pointed out that our results papered over the cracks of our early season form. A few of those results were gained from goals downand just throwing the kitchen sink at teams. Very few good performances but some decent spells. The team has become so fragile that only a change will have a hope of turning things around, as the run and season has gone on, we have gone from having large chunks of possession and a number of shots to where we are today. 1 shot against what should have been the ideal opposition to get a win. No manager, injuries, best player out and dissent in the ranks and we come a poor 2nd. For those (are there any left) who think he can turn it around, really I would love to know, how long and what in the last 8 (straight defeats) has shown that he can turn it around. 3 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: The look of despair on the players' faces after the Cardiff game didn't reveal a lack of effort, Flinty had his head in his hands. I think the lack of form is basically down to the tactics, constant changes, possible fallouts and a lack of confidence, which is obviously getting worse as the bad run continues. They certainly aren't losing on purpose. Totally agree , all the blame must lie with Johnson. I still think we have a good squad with some very good players, but we need a change of coach he has proved himself inept so many times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Thanks for the input people does help having some clarification even if people's opinions differ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: The look of despair on the players' faces after the Cardiff game didn't reveal a lack of effort, Flinty had his head in his hands. I think the lack of form is basically down to the tactics, constant changes, possible fallouts and a lack of confidence, which is obviously getting worse as the bad run continues. They certainly aren't losing on purpose. OK, but if the players are not content about all these things you have stated, then it's bound to affect their game and in a way it's the same as not wanting to play for him. LJ does not fire any passion in our players and therefore there is a severe lack of confidence in his lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, EstoniaTallinnRed said: OK, but if the players are not content about all these things you have stated, then it's bound to affect their game and in a way it's the same as not wanting to play for him. LJ does not fire any passion in our players and therefore there is a severe lack of confidence in his lead. Yes but there's is a massive difference between that and deliberately trying to get him out by playing badly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willitonciderhead Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Good managers motivate, bad managers demotivate. Motivation = performance. Draw conclusions from that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Looked at the clip pf the goal. I thought that way of flipping the ball up at a free kick for a volley had been banned years ago?? Edited January 21, 2017 by southvillekiddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full nelson Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Tools are useful. This troll is a ****. I'll rephrase, TUBE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I think more than a few pointed out that our results papered over the cracks of our early season form. A few of those results were gained from goals downand just throwing the kitchen sink at teams. Very few good performances but some decent spells. I keep seeing this comment but is it true? We got 17 points from our first 10 games, plus won tricky cup ties away at Scunthorpe and Fulham. That's not fluke. We were a good side up until October! Then something happened... EDIT: We were a good side from February to end of September! Edited January 21, 2017 by mozo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, mozo said: I keep seeing this comment but is it true? We got 17 points from our first 10 games, plus won tricky cup ties away at Scunthorpe and Fulham. That's not fluke. We were a good side up until October! Then something happened... Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Bristolian Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: Looked at the clip pf the goal. I thought that way of flipping the ball up at a free kick for a volley had been banned years ago?? ball had been touched back to him first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyhutchscurlymullet Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: Looked at the clip pf the goal. I thought that way of flipping the ball up at a free kick for a volley had been banned years ago?? Or at least the ball has to travel its circumference,which clearly it hadnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Reluctantly today I have moved from in to out. It just can`t be allowed. Are you Rudolph Hucker in disguise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, mozo said: I keep seeing this comment but is it true? We got 17 points from our first 10 games, plus won tricky cup ties away at Scunthorpe and Fulham. That's not fluke. We were a good side up until October! Then something happened... EDIT: We were a good side from February to end of September! We were a lucky side until the end of September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, mozo said: I keep seeing this comment but is it true? We got 17 points from our first 10 games, plus won tricky cup ties away at Scunthorpe and Fulham. That's not fluke. We were a good side up until October! Then something happened... EDIT: We were a good side from February to end of September! That is the something I can't work out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, WhistleHappy said: Are you Rudolph Hucker in disguise? Rudolph would have been in, out, in , out etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Enough. No more excuses. Go please, Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: We were a lucky side until the end of September. Lucky? For four months of last season and two months of this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, mozo said: Lucky? For four months of last season and two months of this? I was talking about this season. Something seemed to fry Lee's brain over the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Torbay_Red Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 We have a good enough first XI to be doing better than this. It's clear that LJ doesn't motivate the team and once that starts to happen, you have to consider replacing your manager. Whoever comes in now needs to be a motivator because the window will be shut before a replacement is made. For me, we have to go balls out for Gary Rowett. He can do better for himself but we have to show the ambition is there to be a top half team and hope that he's getting bored being a pundit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: I was talking about this season. Something seemed to fry Lee's brain over the summer. I can't agree with LJ being lucky. I mean had we not had a bizarre turnaround away at Wednesday, we'd have been completely flying! Then we got 10 points from 4 tricky games including wins against Leeds at home, and a 4-0 at Fulham. Lucky? It was surreal bad luck to lose the game at Hillsborough and we were fantastic all season despite that...until the international break. Then somehow he lost the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, mozo said: I can't agree with LJ being lucky. I mean had we not had a bizarre turnaround away at Wednesday, we'd have been completely flying! Then we got 10 points from 4 tricky games including wins against Leeds at home, and a 4-0 at Fulham. Lucky? It was surreal bad luck to lose the game at Hillsborough and we were fantastic all season despite that...until the international break. Then somehow he lost the players. This is what I keep coming back to that Cardiff game we looked sullen and not up for it and got bullied to be honest. The infuriating part for me is trying to work out what the hell has been going on. I agree, I don't think you can call it luck when it's sustained periods maybe a game or so yes. Edited January 21, 2017 by MattRSp95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: That's exactly my feelings, NE. We have to conclude that very sadly, Lee cannot get the best from his players. When things started going wrong, he panicked and I think that's rubbed off on the team. What we need now is a "Mr Motivator". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Is it time to change that old time favourite "One for the Bristol City" to "One for the Effin Future" Stay sane by making light of our plight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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