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Good day everyone.

"It's historical, it's geographical, it's in the blood. Some places have it, some don't." Tony Francis, Daily Telegraph sports journalist, noted of football fans from Derby.

During the 2007–2008 Premiership season Derby County fans were repeatedly referred to as the best in the country due to their loyalty despite the club's disastrous campaign. We all remember that, well I do, and the mantle is well deserved especially when we remind ourselves how awful that season was for them:-

20 Derby County (R) 38 1 8 29 20 89 −69 11

For the size of the city, 249,000, Derby County is indeed one of the best supported football teams in the country garnering significantly more support than their east Midlands rivals, Nottingham Forest, 16 miles to the east. Back in the Baseball Ground days they occasionally recorded crowds of over 40,000 and at Pride Park they often sell out with over 32,000 crammed inside the stadium. Football is as passionate in the East Midlands as anywhere in the land but they were certainly made to suffer in that fateful season, of 2007-8, with Billy Davies relieved of his duties by November and Paul Jewel unable to turn the fortunes of the club. Apart from a draw and a win in the first two games of the season County remained rooted to the bottom of the table for the entire campaign and are the only club in Premier League history and only the second in the entire history of the top flight to be relegated by March. They are also the only club since Loughborough to win only once in a football league season and that was back in 1899-1900 season which also happened to be their last.

So why are Derby called County? Like many clubs they were formed from a cricket club and in this instance the rather illustrious Derbyshire County Cricket Club in 1884 with their nickname 'The Rams' adopted due to the wealth of history of the woollen trade. Derby County were one of the 12 founding members of the Football League in 1888.

I have written about other more celebrated times for Derby before such as the Clough/Taylor era including their 1971/2 title as well as the McKay title year of 1974/5 but it has been a rollercoaster since including a second dip into the third tier for two seasons in the mid 80's that followed seasons in the top flight unable to participate in Europe following the Heysel disaster. Derby were unlucky in that regard and almost went out of business as they slipped into Division 3.

City head to Derby today reflecting on what we all hope will be the chance to add momentum to the end of a dismal run and yet we have a very poor record against Derby and have not won at Pride Park since April 2011. In a total of 68 meetings between the clubs City have won only 17 times and currently Derby have the meanest defence in the Championship since McLaren took over in October so City will certainly have their work cut out today trying to break that defence down. Stranger things have happened like a Brian Tinnion wonder goal at Anfield for example so we can always pick up a back to back win; not done that in a while have we? And if you get chin wagging with a Derby County fan and he says "Dunna wittle, most a bin up all naight wee a badly rabbit" you know City might have a cat in hell's chance of winning. It means "don't worry, most have been on the beer and had a bad night" . Assuming he is talking about the players taking part that is.

And ask for a 'Cob' with your beer not a 'bread roll' as you might get a wee smile with your service.

Enjoy the long haul to the East Midlands folks; I hope a 1,000+ contingent make it . That would be a truly marvellous effort; 135 miles each way.

And I just hope it is not this rammed for ya'll today.. The good ole' Baseball Ground with that sand covered pitch.

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6 hours ago, havanatopia said:

Good day everyone.

"It's historical, it's geographical, it's in the blood. Some places have it, some don't." Tony Francis, Daily Telegraph sports journalist, noted of football fans from Derby.

During the 2007–2008 Premiership season Derby County fans were repeatedly referred to as the best in the country due to their loyalty despite the club's disastrous campaign. We all remember that, well I do, and the mantle is well deserved especially when we remind ourselves how awful that season was for them:-

20 Derby County (R) 38 1 8 29 20 89 −69 11

For the size of the city, 249,000, Derby County is indeed one of the best supported football teams in the country garnering significantly more support than their east Midlands rivals, Nottingham Forest, 16 miles to the east. Back in the Baseball Ground days they occasionally recorded crowds of over 40,000 and at Pride Park they often sell out with over 32,000 crammed inside the stadium. Football is as passionate in the East Midlands as anywhere in the land but they were certainly made to suffer in that fateful season, of 2007-8, with Billy Davies relieved of his duties by November and Paul Jewel unable to turn the fortunes of the club. Apart from a draw and a win in the first two games of the season County remained rooted to the bottom of the table for the entire campaign and are the only club in Premier League history and only the second in the entire history of the top flight to be relegated by March. They are also the only club since Loughborough to win only once in a football league season and that was back in 1899-1900 season which also happened to be their last.

So why are Derby called County? Like many clubs they were formed from a cricket club and in this instance the rather illustrious Derbyshire County Cricket Club in 1884 with their nickname 'The Rams' adopted due to the wealth of history of the woollen trade. Derby County were one of the 12 founding members of the Football League in 1888.

I have written about other more celebrated times for Derby before such as the Clough/Taylor era including their 1971/2 title as well as the McKay title year of 1974/5 but it has been a rollercoaster since including a second dip into the third tier for two seasons in the mid 80's that followed seasons in the top flight unable to participate in Europe following the Heysel disaster. Derby were unlucky in that regard and almost went out of business as they slipped into Division 3.

City head to Derby today reflecting on what we all hope will be the chance to add momentum to the end of a dismal run and yet we have a very poor record against Derby and have not won at Pride Park since April 2011. In a total of 68 meetings between the clubs City have won only 17 times and currently Derby have the meanest defence in the Championship since McLaren took over in October so City will certainly have their work cut out today trying to break that defence down. Stranger things have happened like a Brian Tinnion wonder goal at Anfield for example so we can always pick up a back to back win; not done that in a while have we? And if you get chin wagging with a Derby County fan and he says "Dunna wittle, most a bin up all naight wee a badly rabbit" you know City might have a cat in hell's chance of winning. It means "don't worry, most have been on the beer and had a bad night" . Assuming he is talking about the players taking part that is.

And ask for a 'Cob' with your beer not a 'bread roll' as you might get a wee smile with your service.

Enjoy the long haul to the East Midlands folks; I hope a 1,000+ contingent make it . That would be a truly marvellous effort; 135 miles each way.

And I just hope it is not this rammed for ya'll today.. The good ole' Baseball Ground with that sand covered pitch.

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Derby County (R):

Were crap in 2007 - 2008.

Formed by some lads from the local cricket club.

Ask for a "cob" with your beer in order to get a smile from a local who will think you are a knob.

1-1

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In 1779 new horse race was planned, and it was decided that it should be named after either the 12th Earl of Derby, or one of his guests, Sir Charles Bunbury. According to legend the decision was made by the toss of a coin, but it is probable that Bunbury, the Steward of the Jockey Club, deferred to his host. The race has been known as The Derby ever since. What is the link to Derby County FC? 

None, but the Bunburies is a better name for their supporters 

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In 1779 new horse race was planned, and it was decided that it should be named after either the 12th Earl of Derby, or one of his guests, Sir Charles Bunbury. According to legend the decision was made by the toss of a coin, but it is probable that Bunbury, the Steward of the Jockey Club, deferred to his host. The race has been known as The Derby ever since. What is the link to Derby County FC? 

None, but the Bunburies is a better name for their supporters 

Pongo?

Can I pair up with you today - for when the online bullying starts?

Cheers.

 

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1 hour ago, BigTone said:

Condensed Version

Derby County (R):

Were crap in 2007 - 2008.

Formed by some lads from the local cricket club.

Ask for a "cob" with your beer in order to get a smile from a local who will think you are a knob.

1-1

Surely a cob is a hard roll and a bap is soft? I asked the lass in the bakery whether she had big baps and she threw me out :(

3-0 Derby

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21 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

In 1779 new horse race was planned, and it was decided that it should be named after either the 12th Earl of Derby, or one of his guests, Sir Charles Bunbury. According to legend the decision was made by the toss of a coin, but it is probable that Bunbury, the Steward of the Jockey Club, deferred to his host. The race has been known as The Derby ever since. What is the link to Derby County FC? 

None, but the Bunburies is a better name for their supporters 

But the town in WA is called Bunbury, not Derby, so there you go...

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Thanks Hav great opener, as you point out we haven't a great record against Derby: http://www.11v11.com/teams/derby-county/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Bristol City/

Have a horrible feeling that we will suffer from a defeat by more than one goal today, so we won't any longer be able to say 'Other than in one game we've only lost by a single goal this season'.......which probably means City will nick it 2-1!

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1 minute ago, Cheesleysmate said:

We will lose 3-1. Matty Taylor will grab the consolation near the end. Another display of rabbits in headlights trying desperately not to lose and playing far too deep. Panicking with numerous errors contributing to Derby's goals.

A bit harsh considering the manager said after the Rotherham game that "we are on a good run".

Don't forget a return of 4 points from the last 6, including the win against Rotherham, inspite of being outplayed in the first half.

We won't be on a bad run for weeks and weeks yet.

Anyway, we are not relegated yet, so cut Lee some slack for once!

"Jeeez".

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Another interesting and thought provoking pre match thread. Well done Havanatopia.

 

Lived in Derby for 3 years in the 70's and still visit family in the area. As Hav' says it's a football town through and through . Even old ladies in the street know the team and could name most of the players.. The local paper is full of football and I believe they still produce a football special  similar to the old Green Un and Pink Un which sadly disappeared from Bristol many years ago. The East Midlands people  love their football and even named the A52 between Derby and Nottingham the "Brian Clough Way"

 

.Love to see a couple of major Roads names after our best players . Changing the Portway to "The Atyeo Way" would be a good start!

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I have written about other more celebrated times for Derby before such as the Clough/Taylor era including their 1971/2 title as well as the McKay title year of 1974/5 

 

 

 

 

And boy do they still go on about it! But then again, so wuld we if roles were reversed.

Having lived in Derby for nearly 30 years I'm getting pretty tired of our record against them and having to put up with the mickey taking at work / pub after yeat anothter defeat to them. I really really hope that we can get the occasional win against them (just for personal reasons) and this season we need it more than usual.

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I wasn't aware there was a game today, what with all the 'hilarious' threads about Johnson being placed on gardening leave only to open said thread and find a picture of a gnome. Jesus! I can see a proper dicking today. Zero confidence in the team as a whole and getting more and more detached from them week by week. Easy for people to say get behind the team but when they give you nothing to get behind them for, kind of hard to do. 4-0 Derby. Put me out of this misery of a season already please and roll on Fleetwood on a shitty Tuesday night...yay.

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1 hour ago, LocoPal said:

Grasping for any thin hope, but the Derby players were suffering cramps on Wednesday, during extra time at Leicester. Might prove to be a factor in our favour, perhaps? 

Unfortunately most of the ones playing today weren't playing at Leicester, so will be fully rested, fit and raring to go for the "big game" against BCFC.

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My hope today is we put in an energetic performance, in part thanks to getting the 'no wins in ages' monkey off our backs, and also because we are underdogs today.

Personally would like the new strikers to get some goals; would be great for their confidence going into this tough run.

But don't expect we'll have quite enough to get anything today; would take a decent showing but a defeat to build us up for another hard trip to Leeds on Valentines.

I live in hope that I'm proved completely wrong to the tune of three points for City!

COYR!

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Would just like us to look like a half decent football team.

Suspect we will play so like a Div 2 team away at a much bigger club in the cup, and hope to sneak one somewhere. We are also really poor at doing that. Even Rotherham were running through our midfield first half. 

It is football, there is always hope, they had a hard mid week game, so going to say 1-1. Fear a tonking however. 

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10 hours ago, havanatopia said:

Good day everyone.

"It's historical, it's geographical, it's in the blood. Some places have it, some don't." Tony Francis, Daily Telegraph sports journalist, noted of football fans from Derby.

During the 2007–2008 Premiership season Derby County fans were repeatedly referred to as the best in the country due to their loyalty despite the club's disastrous campaign. We all remember that, well I do, and the mantle is well deserved especially when we remind ourselves how awful that season was for them:-

20 Derby County (R) 38 1 8 29 20 89 −69 11

For the size of the city, 249,000, Derby County is indeed one of the best supported football teams in the country garnering significantly more support than their east Midlands rivals, Nottingham Forest, 16 miles to the east. Back in the Baseball Ground days they occasionally recorded crowds of over 40,000 and at Pride Park they often sell out with over 32,000 crammed inside the stadium. Football is as passionate in the East Midlands as anywhere in the land but they were certainly made to suffer in that fateful season, of 2007-8, with Billy Davies relieved of his duties by November and Paul Jewel unable to turn the fortunes of the club. Apart from a draw and a win in the first two games of the season County remained rooted to the bottom of the table for the entire campaign and are the only club in Premier League history and only the second in the entire history of the top flight to be relegated by March. They are also the only club since Loughborough to win only once in a football league season and that was back in 1899-1900 season which also happened to be their last.

So why are Derby called County? Like many clubs they were formed from a cricket club and in this instance the rather illustrious Derbyshire County Cricket Club in 1884 with their nickname 'The Rams' adopted due to the wealth of history of the woollen trade. Derby County were one of the 12 founding members of the Football League in 1888.

I have written about other more celebrated times for Derby before such as the Clough/Taylor era including their 1971/2 title as well as the McKay title year of 1974/5 but it has been a rollercoaster since including a second dip into the third tier for two seasons in the mid 80's that followed seasons in the top flight unable to participate in Europe following the Heysel disaster. Derby were unlucky in that regard and almost went out of business as they slipped into Division 3.

City head to Derby today reflecting on what we all hope will be the chance to add momentum to the end of a dismal run and yet we have a very poor record against Derby and have not won at Pride Park since April 2011. In a total of 68 meetings between the clubs City have won only 17 times and currently Derby have the meanest defence in the Championship since McLaren took over in October so City will certainly have their work cut out today trying to break that defence down. Stranger things have happened like a Brian Tinnion wonder goal at Anfield for example so we can always pick up a back to back win; not done that in a while have we? And if you get chin wagging with a Derby County fan and he says "Dunna wittle, most a bin up all naight wee a badly rabbit" you know City might have a cat in hell's chance of winning. It means "don't worry, most have been on the beer and had a bad night" . Assuming he is talking about the players taking part that is.

And ask for a 'Cob' with your beer not a 'bread roll' as you might get a wee smile with your service.

Enjoy the long haul to the East Midlands folks; I hope a 1,000+ contingent make it . That would be a truly marvellous effort; 135 miles each way.

And I just hope it is not this rammed for ya'll today.. The good ole' Baseball Ground with that sand covered pitch.

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I know Derby will put out a better team than they did against Leicester, but we can still beat them today. Come on you Reds!!!!! Still luv ya!!!

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