The Official Preston North End v Bristol City Match Day Thread

[havanatopia]

 

Good day everyone,

Will divine intervention be required in order for City to remain in the Championship? I am sure the vast majority of us know full well that no such mythical inspiration can save the club from such an ignominious end to a campaign that promised so much but has delivered absolutely nothing. In fact worse than that, the club has gone backwards and the owner spent millions in order to do so. Perhaps the only divine inspiration was the variety that went off in somebody's head when Steve Lansdown decided to give a job to a Championship virgin and then repeat the feat with Dean Holden. We know from Mr Lansdown himself that he had many reservations about the first of those decisions.

The name Preston means Priest Town so perhaps we can hope, on a wing and prayer, that the players will decide to turn on their undoubted talent juices this evening because no supposed inspirational team talk from the coaches is going to cut it. Of course God may have overlooked Preston in Lancashire and instead bestowed his good fortune on another settlement called Preston, now Prestonpans, in East Lothian. Legend has it that the settlement was founded by a Viking named Althamer who became shipwrecked on the Scottish lowland shores, survived with his crew, remained and created a settlement back in the 11th century. This painting of his viking ship with his oarsmen rowing into Scottish waters certainly does not convey an image of treachery or stormy waters that night. More one of a group of hapless footballers unknowingly walking into a cataclysmic disaster.

Monks arrived in later years and gave the settlement their own name, Prieststown or Prieston. Because of the salt manufacturing carried out by the monks using pans on the sea shore, the town’s name would later develop into Salt Prieststown and Salt Preston, and finally Prestonpans.

The image above shows Althamers ship passing Bass Rock, near Dunbar, as the sun sets over the River Forth, on the evening before their hard landing on Scotland’s shores.

The simile between this vessel and City seemingly sleep walking into Division One I thought was beautifully depicted; Tranquility before the impending doom. Titanic in miniature perhaps. Of course with Altamer he has no control over the weather less knowing when it is coming. In the case of BCFC it seems the vast majority around the club, such as us fans, probably a majority of people within the club and those looking in from afar, such as other clubs, can seemingly see what is slowly yet inexorably unravelling before our eyes. So perhaps this comparison is less of a simile and more a parable. Either way you get the point.

Deepdale is a rather nice stadium I always think; i visited in our title winning season where we garnered a reasonably satisfactory 1-1 draw. We played rather nervously that day I thought yet there was a warm glow about the club, about the players, fans and the manager; a glow that essentially told us all that we were heading for inevitable promotion. The glow may have, in part, been assisted by a pint of the excellent local brew in the Preston Working Mens club where we had been invited to enter by the jolly friendly locals. That day is clear in my mind and yet it may as well be a lifetime ago such is the change in fortunes of the club we have signed up to support for a similar duration.

I will keep my fingers crossed the magnificent travelling fans return from Lancashire with something to feel good about.

UTC

p.s. My thanks to pongo88 for asking me to include Prestonpans in this match day thread. I hope i have done so to a satisfactory fashion Pongo. 

And also my thanks to Andrew Hillhouse who is the clever fella who painted the viking ship. Go check him out for his work here:- www.andrewhillhouseprints.co.uk 

 

 

[blackthorn slice]

Promised herindoors a night away so just broke the news we off to temple meads to catch train to preston.

City win and i might treat her to a bargain bucket in all.

Oh well , everything crossed for a massive reaction from the players after that on saturday!!

You reds

 

[reddogkev]

Great work, Hava, fascinating historical look at Priestown with your usual sprinkle of informative detail.

As much as I'd kill for a win tonight, I can see a 1-1 draw as the most likely result.

COME ON YOU REDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[BigTone]

27 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

 

Good day everyone,

Will divine intervention be required in order for City to remain in the Championship? I am sure the vast majority of us know full well that no such mythical inspiration can save the club from such an ignominious end to a campaign that promised so much but has delivered absolutely nothing. In fact worse than that, the club has gone backwards and the owner spent millions in order to do so. Perhaps the only divine inspiration was the variety that went off in somebody's head when Steve Lansdown decided to give a job to a Championship virgin and then repeat the feat with Dean Holden. We know from Mr Lansdown himself that he had many reservations about the first of those decisions.

The name Preston means Priest Town so perhaps we can hope, on a wing and prayer, that the players will decide to turn on their undoubted talent juices this evening because no supposed inspirational team talk from the coaches is going to cut it. Of course God may have overlooked Preston in Lancashire and instead bestowed his good fortune on another settlement called Preston, now Prestonpans, in East Lothian. Legend has it that the settlement was founded by a Viking named Althamer who became shipwrecked on the Scottish lowland shores, survived with his crew, remained and created a settlement back in the 11th century. This painting of his viking ship with his oarsmen rowing into Scottish waters certainly does not convey an image of treachery or stormy waters that night. More one of a group of hapless footballers unknowingly walking into a cataclysmic disaster.

Monks arrived in later years and gave the settlement their own name, Prieststown or Prieston. Because of the salt manufacturing carried out by the monks using pans on the sea shore, the town’s name would later develop into Salt Prieststown and Salt Preston, and finally Prestonpans.

The image above shows Althamers ship passing Bass Rock, near Dunbar, as the sun sets over the River Forth, on the evening before their hard landing on Scotland’s shores.

The simile between this vessel and City seemingly sleep walking into Division One I thought was beautifully depicted; Tranquility before the impending doom. Titanic in miniature perhaps. Of course with Altamer he has no control over the weather less knowing when it is coming. In the case of BCFC it seems the vast majority around the club, such as us fans, probably a majority of people within the club and those looking in from afar, such as other clubs, can seemingly see what is slowly yet inexorably unravelling before our eyes. So perhaps this comparison is less of a simile and more a parable. Either way you get the point.

Deepdale is a rather nice stadium I always think; i visited in our title winning season where we garnered a reasonably satisfactory 1-1 draw. We played rather nervously that day I thought yet there was a warm glow about the club, about the players, fans and the manager; a glow that essentially told us all that we were heading for inevitable promotion. The glow may have, in part, been assisted by a pint of the excellent local brew in the Preston Working Mens club where we had been invited to enter by the jolly friendly locals. That day is clear in my mind and yet it may as well be a lifetime ago such is the change in fortunes of the club we have signed up to support for a similar duration.

I will keep my fingers crossed the magnificent travelling fans return from Lancashire with something to feel good about.

UTC will support us tonight.

 

p.s. My thanks to pongo88 for asking me to include Prestonpans in this match day thread. I hope i have done so to a satisfactory fashion Pongo. 

And also my thanks to Andrew Hillhouse who is the clever fella who painted the viking ship. Go check him out for his work here:- www.andrewhillhouseprints.co.uk 

 

 

Condensed Version

Preston

Abandoned by God who we hope will support us tonight.

Pic attached of new BCFC team transport for away games.

1-1

[Inactive user]

I'm expecting us to bounce back tonight. 2 nil to the Cider Reds.

[Septic Peg]

Gut feeling says 2-1 loss but hoping for 1-1 draw... oh and Greg will score for Preston...

[City_USA]

Looking forward to meeting up with some fellow Reds tonight. Wish I felt more enthusiastic about the actual game itself after watching that mess on Saturday. But that's what we need to do right? Dust ourselves off, still believe and hope that the thousands of miles travelled and the hundreds of $ spent to get here will be worth it......COYR!

[42nite]

Didn't take long to get nasty did it?

 

Anyway,  hoping for a 2-1 win for us tonight.

 

[daored]

53 minutes ago, Septic Peg said:

Gut feeling says 2-1 loss but hoping for 1-1 draw... oh and Greg will score for Preston...

Also Robinson who from what I've seen is also having a good season for Preston.

Home win , 2-0

[AshtonGreat]

3-1 Preston

[RedM]

Not a clue about the score, but I'm making the journey so I'll post a photo from inside the ground on here if you want?

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Predict another gutless defeat to add to the ever growing list of gutless defeats.

LJ will preach to his disciples with tales of turning water into wine post match and they will be verily satisfied and proclaim that he is the son of GJ and regail us with verses of excuses for I say LJ is not too blame, everybody else is, amen.

On a personal level on a break in sunny Devon, views overlooking Dartmoor, just witnessed a barn owl hatching, busy day ahead, in the words of the kaiser chiefs I predict a fry up.

Edited April 4, 2017 by Esmond Million's Bung

[havanatopia]

23 minutes ago, RedM said:

Not a clue about the score, but I'm making the journey so I'll post a photo from inside the ground on here if you want?

Yes please.

[reddogkev]

1 hour ago, Thatch35 said:

Will you start another told you so thread if City win? Your a joke of a City 'follower'.

Thatch35, you come across on here as a nasty piece of work, is that your intention?  Why the need for such angst, what's going on with you?

[reddogkev]

49 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Predict another gutless defeat to add to the ever growing list of gutless defeats.

LJ will preach to his disciples with tales of turning water into wine post match and they will be verily satisfied and proclaim that he is the son of GJ and regail us with verses of excuses for I say LJ is not too blame, everybody else is, amen.

On a personal level on a break in sunny Devon, views overlooking Dartmoor, just witnessed a barn owl hatching, busy day ahead, in the words of the kaiser chiefs I predict a fry up.

How do you define a gutless defeat?  If our well-worked chances had been taken, we could've drawn 2-2 on Saturday.  There seems to be a myth that the City players aren't trying to win games, aren't trying to compete.  This is nonsense, the truth is, as shown by the League Table - the City team just isn't that good compared to the rest of the Championship.  We are capable of the odd surprise result (4-0 to Huddersfield, decent away draw to Newcastle etc) but on the whole, we are a bottom 5 team. 

I've not seen evidence of gutless defeats, just a struggling team, who for 45 minutes on Saturday couldn't compete with an aggressive, quick, Brentford team who pressed us into mistakes and kept us pinned into our own half.  The second half performance was much better, and had Tammy and Taylor scored their inviting chances, we could be here on the back of an excellent point.

Edited April 4, 2017 by reddogkev

[Esmond Million's Bung]

17 minutes ago, reddogkev said:

How do you define a gutless defeat?  If our well-worked chances had been taken, we could've drawn 2-2 on Saturday.  There seems to be a myth that the City players aren't trying to win games, aren't trying to compete.  This is nonsense, the truth is, as shown by the League Table - the City team just isn't that good compared to the rest of the Championship.  We are capable of the odd surprise result (4-0 to Huddersfield, decent away draw to Newcastle etc) but on the whole, we are a bottom 5 team. 

I've not seen evidence of gutless defeats, just a struggling team, who for 45 minutes on Saturday couldn't compete with an aggressive, quick, Brentford team who pressed us into mistakes and kept us pinned into our own half.  The second half performance was much better, and had Tammy and Taylor scored their inviting chances, we could be here on the back of an excellent point.

Your comment about Brentford says everything that we are not and never will be consistently under LJ imo.

We are not unlucky 39 matches and counting we have mainly been second best, we have a midfield and full backs unfit for purpose and that has been the case for well over a year.

As for my definition of gutless watch Brentford's first goal and the part played by our left back and moments like that have defined our season.

The only myths are that LJ is a competent manager and that some fans have high expectations, my expectation and that of the vast majority of fans was mid table no relegation battle AGAIN, is that too much to ask?.

 

Edited April 4, 2017 by Esmond Million's Bung

[Kid in the Riot]

19 minutes ago, reddogkev said:

How do you define a gutless defeat?  If our well-worked chances had been taken, we could've drawn 2-2 on Saturday.  There seems to be a myth that the City players aren't trying to win games, aren't trying to compete.  This is nonsense, the truth is, as shown by the League Table - the City team just isn't that good compared to the rest of the Championship.  We are capable of the odd surprise result (4-0 to Huddersfield, decent away draw to Newcastle etc) but on the whole, we are a bottom 5 team. 

I've not seen evidence of gutless defeats, just a struggling team, who for 45 minutes on Saturday couldn't compete with an aggressive, quick, Brentford team who pressed us into mistakes and kept us pinned into our own half.  The second half performance was much better, and had Tammy and Taylor scored their inviting chances, we could be here on the back of an excellent point.

Reading home, Cardiff home, Forest away, Fulham home, Brentford away...just off the top of my head.

The players do not respect or trust their manager, they are not playing for him and haven't been for approx 6 months.

Brentford are not world beaters, they have a tiny budget at this level and an average home record. This was one of our most winnable games between now and the end of the season and we lost convincingly. Getting a point there would not have been 'excellent', we have 7 games left to save our skins and WINS are required, especially against average outfits.

[Tears in rain]

27 minutes ago, reddogkev said:

How do you define a gutless defeat?  If our well-worked chances had been taken, we could've drawn 2-2 on Saturday.  There seems to be a myth that the City players aren't trying to win games, aren't trying to compete.  This is nonsense, the truth is, as shown by the League Table - the City team just isn't that good compared to the rest of the Championship.  We are capable of the odd surprise result (4-0 to Huddersfield, decent away draw to Newcastle etc) but on the whole, we are a bottom 5 team. 

I've not seen evidence of gutless defeats, just a struggling team, who for 45 minutes on Saturday couldn't compete with an aggressive, quick, Brentford team who pressed us into mistakes and kept us pinned into our own half.  The second half performance was much better, and had Tammy and Taylor scored their inviting chances, we could be here on the back of an excellent point.

 

10 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Your comment about Brentford says everything that we are not and never will be consistently under LJ imo.

We are not unlucky 39 matches and counting we have mainly been second best, we have a midfield and full backs unfit for purpose and that has been the case for well over a year.

As for my definition of gutless watch Brentford's first goal and the part played by our left back and moments like that have defined our season.

The only myths are that LJ is a competent manager and that some fans have high expectations, my expectation and that of the vast majority of fans was mid table no relegation battle AGAIN, is that too much to ask?.

 

Forgetting about us not taking our chances and being unlucky etc etc.

You have to look at it from the reverse side... Brentford should have been home and dry by half time! If Frank Fielding hadn't been in goal we would've been no way near even with Tammy, bobby, and mattys goals. 

So yeah gutless does make sense really.

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

I agree with the suggestion that we need four points from tonight and Saturday.  My worry is that I don't think we'll beat Wolves, so we need a good performance tonight.  The players need to step up to the plate.  We have got the ability to do it.

[Ska Junkie]

I hope we win but I expect a defeat. PNE are a good side, as their league position suggests.

3-1. It will be the floodlights fault tonight.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

4 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I agree with the suggestion that we need four points from tonight and Saturday.  My worry is that I don't think we'll beat Wolves, so we need a good performance tonight.  The players need to step up to the plate.  We have got the ability to do it.

And I agree with your view for a change, the ability is there but the organisation is not, tonight as usual we will get skinned on both flanks and the midfield will be surrendered like the vast majority of this season.

[Super]

14 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I agree with the suggestion that we need four points from tonight and Saturday.  My worry is that I don't think we'll beat Wolves, so we need a good performance tonight.  The players need to step up to the plate.  We have got the ability to do it.

Wolves and Helder Costa will rip us apart.

[BobBobSuperBob]

Noticed this - watched it and cheered me up

Also made me shake my head thinking how can we be staring relegation with this lad up,front 

Think the montage shows , give this lad any sort of decent service and he will deliver - a goal scorer for sure , has the skill of right place right time

Cmmmmmon boys feed Tammy tonight as I have  a feeling he will deliver at Deepdale 

Enjoy

 

 

[cityloyal473]

2 hours ago, AshtonGreat said:

3-1 Preston

My prediction too.  I think we'll take the lead early though. Then be behind by HT and the rest will be history.

[Fiale]

1 hour ago, reddogkev said:

How do you define a gutless defeat?  If our well-worked chances had been taken, we could've drawn 2-2 on Saturday.  There seems to be a myth that the City players aren't trying to win games, aren't trying to compete.  This is nonsense, the truth is, as shown by the League Table - the City team just isn't that good compared to the rest of the Championship.  We are capable of the odd surprise result (4-0 to Huddersfield, decent away draw to Newcastle etc) but on the whole, we are a bottom 5 team. 

I've not seen evidence of gutless defeats, just a struggling team, who for 45 minutes on Saturday couldn't compete with an aggressive, quick, Brentford team who pressed us into mistakes and kept us pinned into our own half.  The second half performance was much better, and had Tammy and Taylor scored their inviting chances, we could be here on the back of an excellent point.

 

In all fairness then we should also grant Brentford the same rose tinted glasses and say if they had converted their well worked chances they could have beaten us 4-0 , or 4-2 

 

[Inactive user]

2 hours ago, Thatch35 said:

Will you start another told you so thread if City win? Your a joke of a City 'follower'.

Thanks. Very kind.

[Mortis]

Cannot help but feel you will get at least a point tonight , my last day in work today for 2 weeks so a great start will be under the floodlights at Deepdale tonight , 1-1 has been my gut feeling all week but 2-1 either way would not surprise me in the slightest , anyway enjoy the game for those travelling and watching on the tele at your place and hopefully see you next season 

[The Nest Egg]

2-1 Preston

Hugill and Cunningham, with Cotterill getting a consolation

[reddogkev]

12 minutes ago, Fiale said:

 

In all fairness then we should also grant Brentford the same rose tinted glasses and say if they had converted their well worked chances they could have beaten us 4-0 , or 4-2 

 

In all fairness, you may well be right.  Truth be told, Brentford were good for the win, and we were absolute crap in the first half.

But going into that second period, having somehow kept them down to the 2 goals (mainly due to FF) a 2-2 draw was definitely there for us.

Still on to this evening; just hope the players start quicker and cut out the sloppy defending.

[Ska Junkie]

Just now, Mortis said:

Cannot help but feel you will get at least a point tonight , my last day in work today for 2 weeks so a great start will be under the floodlights at Deepdale tonight , 1-1 has been my gut feeling all week but 2-1 either way would not surprise me in the slightest , anyway enjoy the game for those travelling and watching on the tele at your place and hopefully see you next season 

Hi Mortis, CIU from your forum here.

You are overestimating us mate, it should be a very comfortable home win. We won't spoil your holidays, at least I certainly don't expect us to.

 

[Esmond Million's Bung]

2 minutes ago, reddogkev said:

In all fairness, you may well be right.  Truth be told, Brentford were good for the win, and we were absolute crap in the first half.

But going into that second period, having somehow kept them down to the 2 goals (mainly due to FF) a 2-2 draw was definitely there for us.

Still on to this evening; just hope the players start quicker and cut out the sloppy defending.

I don't believe that we 'KEPT' them down to 2 goals, as I keep reminding people, we are an easy team to beat LJ has said teams don't have to do to much to beat us.

[Major Isewater]

4 hours ago, havanatopia said:

 

Good day everyone,

Will divine intervention be required in order for City to remain in the Championship? I am sure the vast majority of us know full well that no such mythical inspiration can save the club from such an ignominious end to a campaign that promised so much but has delivered absolutely nothing. In fact worse than that, the club has gone backwards and the owner spent millions in order to do so. Perhaps the only divine inspiration was the variety that went off in somebody's head when Steve Lansdown decided to give a job to a Championship virgin and then repeat the feat with Dean Holden. We know from Mr Lansdown himself that he had many reservations about the first of those decisions.

The name Preston means Priest Town so perhaps we can hope, on a wing and prayer, that the players will decide to turn on their undoubted talent juices this evening because no supposed inspirational team talk from the coaches is going to cut it. Of course God may have overlooked Preston in Lancashire and instead bestowed his good fortune on another settlement called Preston, now Prestonpans, in East Lothian. Legend has it that the settlement was founded by a Viking named Althamer who became shipwrecked on the Scottish lowland shores, survived with his crew, remained and created a settlement back in the 11th century. This painting of his viking ship with his oarsmen rowing into Scottish waters certainly does not convey an image of treachery or stormy waters that night. More one of a group of hapless footballers unknowingly walking into a cataclysmic disaster.

Monks arrived in later years and gave the settlement their own name, Prieststown or Prieston. Because of the salt manufacturing carried out by the monks using pans on the sea shore, the town’s name would later develop into Salt Prieststown and Salt Preston, and finally Prestonpans.

The image above shows Althamers ship passing Bass Rock, near Dunbar, as the sun sets over the River Forth, on the evening before their hard landing on Scotland’s shores.

The simile between this vessel and City seemingly sleep walking into Division One I thought was beautifully depicted; Tranquility before the impending doom. Titanic in miniature perhaps. Of course with Altamer he has no control over the weather less knowing when it is coming. In the case of BCFC it seems the vast majority around the club, such as us fans, probably a majority of people within the club and those looking in from afar, such as other clubs, can seemingly see what is slowly yet inexorably unravelling before our eyes. So perhaps this comparison is less of a simile and more a parable. Either way you get the point.

Deepdale is a rather nice stadium I always think; i visited in our title winning season where we garnered a reasonably satisfactory 1-1 draw. We played rather nervously that day I thought yet there was a warm glow about the club, about the players, fans and the manager; a glow that essentially told us all that we were heading for inevitable promotion. The glow may have, in part, been assisted by a pint of the excellent local brew in the Preston Working Mens club where we had been invited to enter by the jolly friendly locals. That day is clear in my mind and yet it may as well be a lifetime ago such is the change in fortunes of the club we have signed up to support for a similar duration.

I will keep my fingers crossed the magnificent travelling fans return from Lancashire with something to feel good about.

UTC

p.s. My thanks to pongo88 for asking me to include Prestonpans in this match day thread. I hope i have done so to a satisfactory fashion Pongo. 

And also my thanks to Andrew Hillhouse who is the clever fella who painted the viking ship. Go check him out for his work here:- www.andrewhillhouseprints.co.uk 

 

 

No wonder you didn't get the Brentford thread out on time you must have been working on this one , I haven't read it all as I have a doctor's appointment Friday evening. 

Bless you H .

Which City will turn up tonight ? 

The scintillating team who beat Huddersfield or the stinkers who embarrassed the club on Saturday ? 

Who knows or even cares anymore ? 

If the club don't why should we ? 

Anyhow a massive to the fans who are traveling up to Lancashire . You are Bristol City .

Sing songs of redemption and cider .

You are the passion and the heartbeat of this club not Bristol Spurt , nor Mark' eting Ashton , Lansdown or The three vestal virgins training our bewildered players.

Shout for us me babbers. 

[Mortis]

15 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Hi Mortis, CIU from your forum here.

You are overestimating us mate, it should be a very comfortable home win. We won't spoil your holidays, at least I certainly don't expect us to.

 

Hi Ska , in fairness whilst we have had a superb season and Grayson is building a really good team with a blend of experience , youth and pace which we have missed , the areas of concern for me ahead of tonights game are we have three fullbacks out injured and have had for a period and playing Clarke at F/B whilst he is a club legend , the lack of pace and the gap exploited by Assombalonga is ready made for Abraham IMO , we also haven't found the right mix in recent matches to partner Pearson in midfield but the return of Gallagher is a huge plus for us and then other than McGeady ( and hes the key player for us and has been Premiership quality for months ) we don't have goals in us with Hugill looking very jaded , Robinson a little of the pace and still I keep seeing that 4-0 Huddersfield Town performance and knowing tonight we be a stern test regardless of your position / display at Brentford .... 

Edited April 4, 2017 by Mortis

[Ska Junkie]

Just now, Mortis said:

Hi Ska , in fairness whilst we have had a superb season and Grayson is building a really good team with a blend of experience , youth and pace which we have missed , the areas of concern for me ahead of tonights game is we have three fullbacks out injured and have had for a period and playing Clarke at F/B whilst he is a club legend , the lack of pace and the gap exploited by Assombalonga is ready made for Abraham IMO , we also haven't found the right mix in recent matches to partner Pearson in midfield but the return of Gallagher is a huge plus for us and then other than McGeady ( and hes the key player for us and has been Premiership quality for months ) we don't have goals in us with Hugill looking very jaded , Robinson a little of the pace and still I keep seeing that 4-0 Huddersfield Town performance and knowing tonight we be a stern test regardless of your position / display at Brentford .... 

That was our best / only display in months fella. I really wouldn't worry. Tammy is very, very good but we don't give him any type of service. As for fullbacks, what are they? We play midfielders in both fullback positions. McGeady, with his pace and movement, will have a field day up against Flinty and Bailey Wright.

You've really go nothing to worry about, we're a pale shadow of the team we were. Good players certainly but totally devoid of any leadership whatsoever. You will see lots of pointing and shrugging of shoulders from our lot as they don't seem to know what they are supposed to be doing.

It really IS that bad!

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, reddogkev said:

How do you define a gutless defeat?  If our well-worked chances had been taken, we could've drawn 2-2 on Saturday.  There seems to be a myth that the City players aren't trying to win games, aren't trying to compete.  This is nonsense, the truth is, as shown by the League Table - the City team just isn't that good compared to the rest of the Championship.  We are capable of the odd surprise result (4-0 to Huddersfield, decent away draw to Newcastle etc) but on the whole, we are a bottom 5 team. 

I've not seen evidence of gutless defeats, just a struggling team, who for 45 minutes on Saturday couldn't compete with an aggressive, quick, Brentford team who pressed us into mistakes and kept us pinned into our own half.  The second half performance was much better, and had Tammy and Taylor scored their inviting chances, we could be here on the back of an excellent point.

IF  , it doesn't wash anymore, we've had bad luck certainly but so have our opponents at times . I am fed up to the back teeth with excuses.

We don't  need excuses we need wins .

[Mortis]

3 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

That was our best / only display in months fella. I really wouldn't worry. Tammy is very, very good but we don't give him any type of service. As for fullbacks, what are they? We play midfielders in both fullback positions. McGeady, with his pace and movement, will have a field day up against Flinty and Bailey Wright.

You've really go nothing to worry about, we're a pale shadow of the team we were. Good players certainly but totally devoid of any leadership whatsoever. You will see lots of pointing and shrugging of shoulders from our lot as they don't seem to know what they are supposed to be doing.

It really IS that bad!

Regardless I hope you stay up and sort out the club in the summer as you clearly state on paper that squad looks I would suggest as good as ours and makes me realise just how fortunate we are to have Simon in charge of recruitment and it is simply staggering to see us sat in 8th with the lack of money spent in assembling this team , of course I hope your team don't turn up tonight and we have a comfortable home win but regardless will be hoping and still think you will stay up as it woudl e travesty with the money spent and your fan base / ground to see you back in League One ...not often Ive said this being a Preston fan but McGeady is worth the entrance money alone this season / same perhaps as Tammy for you ... all the best Mortis 

[WhistleHappy]

4 hours ago, BigTone said:

Condensed Version

Preston

Abandoned by God who we hope will support us tonight.

Pic attached of new BCFC team transport for away games.

1-1

Think the pic is actually a search and rescue vessel Tone  ... out looking for the Lansdown Babes who are currently up a creek somewhere without a paddle, capt Johnson still hasn't worked out how to work the rudder, they're going helplessly round in circles, slowly heading towards whitewater rapids and precarious waterfalls....

If they're not miraculously rescued sometime soon, or someone needs to get a grip on board the good ship Robin (I'm sure there's a couple of short planks on board  )... then the Lansdown Babes are doomed.  

 

 

[Redmycolour]

3 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Predict another gutless defeat to add to the ever growing list of gutless defeats.

LJ will preach to his disciples with tales of turning water into wine post match and they will be verily satisfied and proclaim that he is the son of GJ and regail us with verses of excuses for I say LJ is not too blame, everybody else is, amen.

On a personal level on a break in sunny Devon, views overlooking Dartmoor, just witnessed a barn owl hatching, busy day ahead, in the words of the kaiser chiefs I predict a fry up.

And me but Im in Dawlish warren

 

[Sweeneys Penalties]

I predict another defeat BUT I had a look at the remaining fixtures last night, and I honestly can't see Blackburn doing any better than City in those remaining fixtures. The game at Ewood Park is soooo important though

[...]

Preston are a strong side at home, and our away record is piss poor.

If anything, it is our shocking away form that has stopped us being mid-table this season - apart from having 'dog's breath' as manager (obviously).

So: good home team; we are shit.

Knowing City, this can ONLY mean an away win!!

2-1 to City!

 

 

tfj  regardless of result 

Edited April 4, 2017 by Taxi for Johnson

[B block]

4 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said:

I predict another defeat BUT I had a look at the remaining fixtures last night, and I honestly can't see Blackburn doing any better than City in those remaining fixtures. The game at Ewood Park is soooo important though

Bad start tonight, 1-0 Preston half time 

better second half but hit on counter 2-0

late counter to limit to 2-1 followed by hitting the bar in injury time

lj to say, I know whose trying we go again, there's still games left we will stay up blah blah blah 

hope in wrong but the Blackburn games massive and can't see us winning up there

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5 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said:

I'm expecting us to bounce back tonight. 2 nil to the Cider Reds.

Bollocks, it will be 2-1 to City.

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Just now, B block said:

Bad start tonight, 1-0 Preston half time 

better second half but hit on counter 2-0

late counter to limit to 2-1 followed by hitting the bar in injury time

lj to say, I know whose trying we go again, there's still games left we will stay up blah blah blah 

hope in wrong but the Blackburn games massive and can't see us winning up there

If you put £50 on all that happening, exactly as you say, you can pay your mortgage off in the morning.

Well done.

[B block]

1 minute ago, Taxi for Johnson said:

Bollocks, it will be 2-1 to City.

I'd bite your hand off for a 2-1 win

[Major Isewater]

5 minutes ago, B block said:

I'd bite your hand off for a 2-1 win

I'd take even a point . 

[CotswoldRed]

3 hours ago, reddogkev said:

How do you define a gutless defeat?  If our well-worked chances had been taken, we could've drawn 2-2 on Saturday.  There seems to be a myth that the City players aren't trying to win games, aren't trying to compete.  This is nonsense, the truth is, as shown by the League Table - the City team just isn't that good compared to the rest of the Championship.  We are capable of the odd surprise result (4-0 to Huddersfield, decent away draw to Newcastle etc) but on the whole, we are a bottom 5 team. 

I've not seen evidence of gutless defeats, just a struggling team, who for 45 minutes on Saturday couldn't compete with an aggressive, quick, Brentford team who pressed us into mistakes and kept us pinned into our own half.  The second half performance was much better, and had Tammy and Taylor scored their inviting chances, we could be here on the back of an excellent point.

If Brentford had scored their well worked chances too it wouldn't have been 2-2

[RedM]

Barely crawling along in traffic just north of Birmingham. Lots of 40 ph restrictions but we aren't moving

[Offside]

I'm finding it difficult to feel any optimism about tonight's game. Our away form has been so dreadful. 

[Garland-sweden]

8 hours ago, City_USA said:

Looking forward to meeting up with some fellow Reds tonight. Wish I felt more enthusiastic about the actual game itself after watching that mess on Saturday. But that's what we need to do right? Dust ourselves off, still believe and hope that the thousands of miles travelled and the hundreds of $ spent to get here will be worth it......COYR!

Really hope we get a good result tonight. You travelled a long way, 3 points would be more than great. Always believe, Coyr!

[Major Isewater]

43 minutes ago, RedM said:

Barely crawling along in traffic just north of Birmingham. Lots of 40 ph restrictions but we aren't moving

It sounds ominously like a match report ! 

[havanatopia]

4 hours ago, Mortis said:

the lack of pace and the gap exploited by Assombalonga is ready made for Abraham IMO

Knowing our incompetent general he will put Tammy in the centre of defence tonight so you'll be fine.

2 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

I'd take even a point . 

I'd be mildly satisfied with a narrow defeat because the hilarity of listening to Johnson Jr saying this narrow hard fought defeat will boost our confidence for Saturday will be almost as satisfying; that is how bad it has becone.

[City_USA]

21 minutes ago, Garland-sweden said:

Really hope we get a good result tonight. You travelled a long way, 3 points would be more than great. Always believe, Coyr!

I sure did Garland-sweden. 3 points shouldn't be too much to ask should it?

[RedM]

About an hour away now, after moving better we still not getting out of 2nd gear...I'll let you decide if that's a motorway update or a traffic report!

[daored]

Just now, RedM said:

About an hour away now, after moving better we still not getting out of 2nd gear...I'll let you decide if that's a motorway update or a traffic report!

Or a description of the team's approach to the game. Preston is lovely this evening by the way 

[miser]

On the bright side, it's a sunny day in Preston with a nice northern wind chill. Energetic first half required to keep warm !

[Major Isewater]

1 minute ago, RedM said:

About an hour away now, after moving better we still not getting out of 2nd gear...I'll let you decide if that's a motorway update or a traffic report!

How's Tomlin doing ? 

[Garland-sweden]

49 minutes ago, City_USA said:

I sure did Garland-sweden. 3 points shouldn't be too much to ask should it?

No, dont think so. Gotta feeling we win, 2-1.

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1 hour ago, RedM said:

Barely crawling along in traffic just north of Birmingham. Lots of 40 ph restrictions but we aren't moving

That would be God punishing you for doing NOTHING about the disgraceful swearing on the forum on Saturday.

 

 

tfj  

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27 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

How's Tomlin doing ? 

Finishing his second kebab, and already eying the trifle.

Why the question??

 

tfj

[...]

If we win all our remaining games this season, I have decided to allow Lee to keep his job, until someone better can take over, on the strict condition this will be before July 1st.

It's my final offer.

Take it or leave it Johnson.

[pongo88]

31 minutes ago, miser said:

On the bright side, it's a sunny day in Preston with a nice northern wind chill. Energetic first half required to keep warm !

Any good pies? There must be some reason for travelling that distance. 

[OldlandReddies]

Absolutely no chance tonight. Preston in top form at home, lost just 2 in 20 and we are abysmal away from home. Safe journey and well done for all travelling fans and enjoy the beer.

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2 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Any good pies? There must be some reason for travelling that distance. 

Whippet rustling.

Someone should tell the RSPCA, but the moderators on here don't give a shit about animal welfare.

 

tfj

[AppyDAZE]

Just now, OldlandReddies said:

Absolutely no chance tonight. Preston in top form at home, lost just 2 in 20 and we are abysmal away from home. Safe journey and well done for all travelling fans and enjoy the beer.

.. but ain't it just like football?

[Esmond Million's Bung]

43 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

I reckon we might see Tomlin on the left tonight. I think our biggest weakness was having him in behind Tammy against Brentford. It has only really worked twice all season. I would personally drop Tomlin for this game.

And Joe Bryan left back?.

in the dressing room.

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Just now, Esmond Million's Bung said:

And Joe Bryan left back?.

in the dressing room.

You've lowered the mood already - what is it with you this year?

FFS.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

7 minutes ago, Taxi for Johnson said:

You've lowered the mood already - what is it with you this year?

FFS.

Difficult day (where do you want me to start?) and now having to think about a LJ, JB and BCFC midfield master class, give me a break uncle.

 

Edited April 4, 2017 by Esmond Million's Bung

[And Its Smith]

11 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said:

Absolutely no chance tonight. Preston in top form at home, lost just 2 in 20 and we are abysmal away from home. Safe journey and well done for all travelling fans and enjoy the beer.

Always amazing me when people say this.   Countiess examples where the team with 'no chance' has won.

[cityexile]

Preston good home form, v our poor away form.

Hoping rather than expecting our usual away draw at Preston following them beating us at AG.

[AppyDAZE]

16 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

 

1 minute ago, cityexile said:

Preston good home form, v our poor away form.

Hoping rather than expecting our usual away draw at Preston following them beating us at AG.

Add to Manager that has been there / done it Vs a bloke that's hitching a ride

Edited April 4, 2017 by AppyDAZE