Popular Post havanatopia Posted September 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Remember the film 'Never Let Me Go' ? I always wanted to see it simply because it had a scene on Clevedon beach and the Pier. The rest of it, while well acted and starring Keira Knightly and Charlotte Rampling, I found dark and disturbing. Norwich has long been a creative centre where such productions began their life. What makes a city a literary giant? According to Unesco, it takes a rare and rarified combination of editorial initiatives and educational programmes, lashings of libraries, bookstores and cultural centres, plus a vibrant literary event scene. In short, it’s the extent to which literature plays an integral role in the urban environment and the only two cities in England to have earned the status so far are Norwich in 2012 and Nottingham in 2015. There are 20 currently around the world. Why is it that we seem to have a plethora of 'best city for this', 'world cultural capital for that', 'city with the best theatres' etc? The more 'lists' there are the more diluted the reading experience. I find it all rather tedious and a sort of 'dumming down' of things to read about. Is it partly because lists are easier to digest when there is an inxorable move toward on line reading over print? I think so. I am completely and utterly bored and I am sure, also, are most of you. Real authors like Malcolm Bradbury do interest me though and he started a degree course at the University of East Anglia at Norwich called an MA in Creative Writing. From that course some of the best modern day writings have emerged in print and on our screens. Ian McEwan and Kazuo Ishiguro took that course and became superb writers and novelists in their own right. Among many well known novels Ishiguro wrote such as 'The Remains of the Day' , in 1989, which went on to become award winning films with an all star cast including Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson with screenplay by Harold Pinter. Ishiguro, born in Japan but raised in the UK also wrote that disturbing novel 'Never Let Me Go' . It was positively received and a master of writing. McEwan is well known for writing 'Atonement', also adapted for the big screen and again starring Kinghtly, as well as Enduring Love with Daniel Craig and Bill Nighy. Both authors have been highly decorated in their careers to date. Malcolm Bradbury, who passed away in Norwich in 2000 at the tender age of 68 was not a prolific novelist but he left an indelible mark on the literary world not least because of his course at the UEA in Norwich. He published Possibilities: Essays on the State of the Novel in 1973, The History Man in 1975, Who Do You Think You Are? in 1976, Rates of Exchange in 1983 and Cuts: A Very Short Novel in 1987. Some of his works made it to the big screen as well as adaptations for TV the most famous of which was The History Man which was broadcast by the BBC as a four-part serial in 1981. It starred Antony Sher as Howard Kirk and Geraldine James as his wife Barbara; Isla Blair played Flora Beniform. Exteriors for the series were shot at the University of Lancaster and in Bristol. This was the cover for his book 'The History Man'. It shows a dog buried up to its neck in an unidentifiable mass. It was painted by Francisco Goya between 1820 and 1823 directly on to the wall of his house. The dog is gazing upward perhaps in awe, waiting for the right moment, or wishing he could scale the height but can't. Sometimes City fans must feel that way; usually being thwarted, time and again, in our desire to reach greater success. The painting, part of Goya's 'dark period' after suffering two life threatening illnesses, was never meant for public display but today sits in The Prado Museum in Madrid as one of 14 he originally painted on the walls of Quinta del Sordo, his last home. Manuel Mena, Curator at the Prado, claimed: "There is not a single contemporary painter in the world that does not pray in front of The Dog" so named was the painting by the museum. It was revered by the likes of Picasso and Miró and Rafael Canogar referred to it as a "visual poem" and cited it as the first Symbolist painting of the Western world. Spanish painter Antonio Saura thought The Dog "the world's most beautiful picture". Nobody appreciates something that comes easy as much as something achieved through toil and sweat. I too appreciate that 'image' of this dog, of 'the dog'. It seems to encapsulate life in general. At times the 'unidentifiable mass' that the dog is engulfed in might seem like quick sand where one feels the sensation of drowning and helplessness and, at others, perhaps water that one can wade through with relative ease. Either way one should never expect life to be impossible or easy. But the dog seems transfixed and determined. I think that is what is so compelling with this painting and I like to think this is how City are this season. Nothing is going to stop them looking forward, working hard, taking the plaudits, enjoying it and just repeating it week in and week out. Have a closer look. Bit like Noble after he scored that goal against Palace in the semi final of the play offs; I remember an image of him looking up. Whoever goes to Norwich today deserves a medal. 480 miles round trip. That is some commitment and some cost. Well done all of you and have a great day. Bring back the 3 points. 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SoliCyder Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 What a great read to start the day. Though I am suddenly disturbed that McEwan's 'Saturday', one of my favourite books, contains no match day reference. And as for Coventry's city of culture bid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Another tough game. Be happy with a point today. Ecstatic with 3 . COYR. Save journey to the fans traveling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Remember doing some work in Norwich 2009 the season when they were in league one and we were in the Championship, some great pi55 taking. However, since then they have been up to the Prem and back and we have only been down to league one and back . On to today, buoyed with fresh optimism from our last 3 league results, I fancy we might get a draw out of it, 2-2. Edited September 23, 2017 by old_eastender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Remember the film 'Never Let Me Go' ? I always wanted to see it simply because it had a scene on Clevedon beach and the Pier. The rest of it, while well acted and starring Keira Knightly and Charlotte Rampling, I found dark and disturbing. Norwich has long been a creative centre where such productions began their life. What makes a city a literary giant? According to Unesco, it takes a rare and rarified combination of editorial initiatives and educational programmes, lashings of libraries, bookstores and cultural centres, plus a vibrant literary event scene. In short, it’s the extent to which literature plays an integral role in the urban environment and the only two cities in England to have earned the status so far are Norwich in 2012 and Nottingham in 2015. There are 20 currently around the world. Why is it that we seem to have a plethora of 'best city for this', 'world cultural capital for that', 'city with the best theatres' etc? The more 'lists' there are the more diluted the reading experience. I find it all rather tedious and a sort of 'dumming down' of things to read about. Is it partly because lists are easier to digest when there is an inxorable move toward on line reading over print? I think so. I am completely and utterly bored and I am sure, also, are most of you. Real authors like Malcolm Bradbury do interest me though and he started a degree course at the University of East Anglia at Norwich called an MA in Creative Writing. From that course some of the best modern day writings have emerged in print and on our screens. Ian McEwan and Kazuo Ishiguro took that course and became superb writers and novelists in their own right. Among many well known novels Ishiguro wrote such as 'The Remains of the Day' , in 1989, which went on to become award winning films with an all star cast including Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson with screenplay by Harold Pinter. Ishiguro, born in Japan but raised in the UK also wrote that disturbing novel 'Never Let Me Go' . It was positively received and a master of writing. McEwan is well known for writing 'Atonement', also adapted for the big screen and again starring Kinghtly, as well as Enduring Love with Daniel Craig and Bill Nighy. Both authors have been highly decorated in their careers to date. Malcolm Bradbury, who passed away in Norwich in 2000 at the tender age of 68 was not a prolific novelist but he left an indelible mark on the literary world not least because of his course at the UEA in Norwich. He published Possibilities: Essays on the State of the Novel in 1973, The History Man in 1975, Who Do You Think You Are? in 1976, Rates of Exchange in 1983 and Cuts: A Very Short Novel in 1987. Some of his works made it to the big screen as well as adaptations for TV the most famous of which was The History Man which was broadcast by the BBC as a four-part serial in 1981. It starred Antony Sher as Howard Kirk and Geraldine James as his wife Barbara; Isla Blair played Flora Beniform. Exteriors for the series were shot at the University of Lancaster and in Bristol. This was the cover for his book 'The History Man'. It shows a dog buried up to its neck in an unidentifiable mass. It was painted by Francisco Goya between 1820 and 1823 directly on to the wall of his house. The dog is gazing upward perhaps in awe, waiting for the right moment, or wishing he could scale the height but can't. Sometimes City fans must feel that way; usually being thwarted, time and again, in our desire to reach greater success. The painting, part of Goya's 'dark period' after suffering two life threatening illnesses, was never meant for public display but today sits in The Prado Museum in Madrid as one of 14 he originally painted on the walls of Quinta del Sordo, his last home. Manuel Mena, Curator at the Prado, claimed: "There is not a single contemporary painter in the world that does not pray in front of The Dog" so named was the painting by the museum. It was revered by the likes of Picasso and Miró and Rafael Canogar referred to it as a "visual poem" and cited it as the first Symbolist painting of the Western world. Spanish painter Antonio Saura thought The Dog "the world's most beautiful picture". Nobody appreciates something that comes easy as much as something achieved through toil and sweat. I too appreciate that 'image' of this dog, of 'the dog'. It seems to encapsulate life in general. At times the 'unidentifiable mass' that the dog is engulfed in might seem like quick sand where one feels the sensation of drowning and helplessness and, at others, perhaps water that one can wade through with relative ease. Either way one should never expect life to be impossible or easy. But the dog seems transfixed and determined. I think that is what is so compelling with this painting and I like to think this is how City are this season. Nothing is going to stop them looking forward, working hard, taking the plaudits, enjoying it and just repeating it week in and week out. Have a closer look. Bit like Noble after he scored that goal against Palace in the semi final of the play offs; I remember an image of him looking up. Whoever goes to Norwich today deserves a medal. 480 miles round trip. That is some commitment and some cost. Well done all of you and have a great day. Bring back the 3 points. But did anyone from Norwich write a book about the CSF ? I rest my case , Second rate literary City . 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Remember the film 'Never Let Me Go' ? I always wanted to see it simply because it had a scene on Clevedon beach and the Pier. The rest of it, while well acted and starring Keira Knightly and Charlotte Rampling, I found dark and disturbing. Norwich has long been a creative centre where such productions began their life. What makes a city a literary giant? According to Unesco, it takes a rare and rarified combination of editorial initiatives and educational programmes, lashings of libraries, bookstores and cultural centres, plus a vibrant literary event scene. In short, it’s the extent to which literature plays an integral role in the urban environment and the only two cities in England to have earned the status so far are Norwich in 2012 and Nottingham in 2015. There are 20 currently around the world. Why is it that we seem to have a plethora of 'best city for this', 'world cultural capital for that', 'city with the best theatres' etc? The more 'lists' there are the more diluted the reading experience. I find it all rather tedious and a sort of 'dumming down' of things to read about. Is it partly because lists are easier to digest when there is an inxorable move toward on line reading over print? I think so. I am completely and utterly bored and I am sure, also, are most of you. Real authors like Malcolm Bradbury do interest me though and he started a degree course at the University of East Anglia at Norwich called an MA in Creative Writing. From that course some of the best modern day writings have emerged in print and on our screens. Ian McEwan and Kazuo Ishiguro took that course and became superb writers and novelists in their own right. Among many well known novels Ishiguro wrote such as 'The Remains of the Day' , in 1989, which went on to become award winning films with an all star cast including Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson with screenplay by Harold Pinter. Ishiguro, born in Japan but raised in the UK also wrote that disturbing novel 'Never Let Me Go' . It was positively received and a master of writing. McEwan is well known for writing 'Atonement', also adapted for the big screen and again starring Kinghtly, as well as Enduring Love with Daniel Craig and Bill Nighy. Both authors have been highly decorated in their careers to date. Malcolm Bradbury, who passed away in Norwich in 2000 at the tender age of 68 was not a prolific novelist but he left an indelible mark on the literary world not least because of his course at the UEA in Norwich. He published Possibilities: Essays on the State of the Novel in 1973, The History Man in 1975, Who Do You Think You Are? in 1976, Rates of Exchange in 1983 and Cuts: A Very Short Novel in 1987. Some of his works made it to the big screen as well as adaptations for TV the most famous of which was The History Man which was broadcast by the BBC as a four-part serial in 1981. It starred Antony Sher as Howard Kirk and Geraldine James as his wife Barbara; Isla Blair played Flora Beniform. Exteriors for the series were shot at the University of Lancaster and in Bristol. This was the cover for his book 'The History Man'. It shows a dog buried up to its neck in an unidentifiable mass. It was painted by Francisco Goya between 1820 and 1823 directly on to the wall of his house. The dog is gazing upward perhaps in awe, waiting for the right moment, or wishing he could scale the height but can't. Sometimes City fans must feel that way; usually being thwarted, time and again, in our desire to reach greater success. The painting, part of Goya's 'dark period' after suffering two life threatening illnesses, was never meant for public display but today sits in The Prado Museum in Madrid as one of 14 he originally painted on the walls of Quinta del Sordo, his last home. Manuel Mena, Curator at the Prado, claimed: "There is not a single contemporary painter in the world that does not pray in front of The Dog" so named was the painting by the museum. It was revered by the likes of Picasso and Miró and Rafael Canogar referred to it as a "visual poem" and cited it as the first Symbolist painting of the Western world. Spanish painter Antonio Saura thought The Dog "the world's most beautiful picture". Nobody appreciates something that comes easy as much as something achieved through toil and sweat. I too appreciate that 'image' of this dog, of 'the dog'. It seems to encapsulate life in general. At times the 'unidentifiable mass' that the dog is engulfed in might seem like quick sand where one feels the sensation of drowning and helplessness and, at others, perhaps water that one can wade through with relative ease. Either way one should never expect life to be impossible or easy. But the dog seems transfixed and determined. I think that is what is so compelling with this painting and I like to think this is how City are this season. Nothing is going to stop them looking forward, working hard, taking the plaudits, enjoying it and just repeating it week in and week out. Have a closer look. Bit like Noble after he scored that goal against Palace in the semi final of the play offs; I remember an image of him looking up. Whoever goes to Norwich today deserves a medal. 480 miles round trip. That is some commitment and some cost. Well done all of you and have a great day. Bring back the 3 points. Condensed version Norwich A dark and disturbing place brightened up by Keira Knightly. 1-0 City Edited September 23, 2017 by BigTone 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Normally this would be a game that we expect to lose but the current form has got us all a bit giddy. I guess we'll see just how potent our momentum is right now. You can guarantee that a win would get us all talking about the Premiership etc etc. Perhaps a drab 1-0 defeat is more likely and would put our hopes in check? I really don't know... I'll sit on the fence and predict 1-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: But did anyone from Norwich write a book about the CSF ? I rest my case , Second rate literary City . Beat me to it Major Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) CovCyder, don't get me started on those 'city of culture' lists.. drives me bonkers. Total nutty idea. Thanks for the compliment. Btw, I think Perowne is too busy chopping up carrots and peeling potatoes for his evening dinner soirée to worry about football. Edited September 23, 2017 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Don't get me started on those 'city of culture' lists.. drives me bonkers. Total nutty idea. Thanks for the compliment. Btw, I think Perowne is too busy chopping up carrots and peeling potatoes for his evening dinner soirée to worry about football. No mate-thats Delia.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: No mate-thats Delia.. Maybe thats his wife! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Normally we got beat there but todays City i think we gonna take a point or 3. Been there once, we lost 3-1 I think, Albert our scorer. Rent a car at Stanstead, white Peugeot, he he. It was a nice trip despite the loss. Remember the Norwichfans was friendly.Tommy was the driver by the way. One point ok. Always believe, COYR!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, BigTone said: Condensed versionot Norwich A dark and disturbing place brightened up by Keira Knightly. 1-0 City Havanatopia having surpassed himself I was about to post 'let's see Big Tone summarise that'. You've only been and gone and done it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Havanatopia, you have set the bar higher than ever with this week's effort. Bloody brilliant. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Just in passing, they used my then block of flats in Royal Park Clifton for some of the filming of The History Man, which was bloody inconvenient at the time, but gave us a bit of notoriety when the serial became so popular. It was from there that I walked down to Ashton Gate for many a top tier match between 1976 and 1980, memorably being locked out by my flatmate (who was from Liverpool) after we beat said League Champions in 1977... Looking forward to picking up some points today! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Genuinely think we'll win today. Huge kudos to anyone who makes the journey today. Was there for work last week, and can only be described as a '******* long way away' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoliCyder Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Btw, I think Perowne is too busy chopping up carrots and peeling potatoes for his evening dinner soirée to worry about football. 32 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: No mate-thats Delia.. Though from memory the seafood stew contained no mustard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Think we might see our 2nd defeat of the season today. A very tough game but I’m not sure if I’m remembering this correctly but when we lost 1-0 to them last season Johnson said something along the lines about “HIS team not being quite enough ready to take anything at these sort of grounds but in 12 months they will be” I’m sure someone can find the proper quote but it will be amazing to see if we can get something here today! Come on you reds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Morning all! Wonderful post Hav. I've never read any of those books but I may well have a little look now. I'm going for 1-1. Can't see a win somehow for us as Norwich will have more of an edge I feel... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, CovCyder said: Though from memory the seafood stew contained no mustard People from Fitzrovia usually have Dijon no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouslastword Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I see goals in this. I'm going 2-4 city win. Deidhou opener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 More than happy with a draw but it will be very difficult. That'll mean 8 from 4 tough games which is promotion form . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, havanatopia said: Remember the film 'Never Let Me Go' ? I always wanted to see it simply because it had a scene on Clevedon beach and the Pier. The rest of it, while well acted and starring Keira Knightly and Charlotte Rampling, I found dark and disturbing. Norwich has long been a creative centre where such productions began their life. What makes a city a literary giant? According to Unesco, it takes a rare and rarified combination of editorial initiatives and educational programmes, lashings of libraries, bookstores and cultural centres, plus a vibrant literary event scene. In short, it’s the extent to which literature plays an integral role in the urban environment and the only two cities in England to have earned the status so far are Norwich in 2012 and Nottingham in 2015. There are 20 currently around the world. Why is it that we seem to have a plethora of 'best city for this', 'world cultural capital for that', 'city with the best theatres' etc? The more 'lists' there are the more diluted the reading experience. I find it all rather tedious and a sort of 'dumming down' of things to read about. Is it partly because lists are easier to digest when there is an inxorable move toward on line reading over print? I think so. I am completely and utterly bored and I am sure, also, are most of you. Real authors like Malcolm Bradbury do interest me though and he started a degree course at the University of East Anglia at Norwich called an MA in Creative Writing. From that course some of the best modern day writings have emerged in print and on our screens. Ian McEwan and Kazuo Ishiguro took that course and became superb writers and novelists in their own right. Among many well known novels Ishiguro wrote such as 'The Remains of the Day' , in 1989, which went on to become award winning films with an all star cast including Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson with screenplay by Harold Pinter. Ishiguro, born in Japan but raised in the UK also wrote that disturbing novel 'Never Let Me Go' . It was positively received and a master of writing. McEwan is well known for writing 'Atonement', also adapted for the big screen and again starring Kinghtly, as well as Enduring Love with Daniel Craig and Bill Nighy. Both authors have been highly decorated in their careers to date. Malcolm Bradbury, who passed away in Norwich in 2000 at the tender age of 68 was not a prolific novelist but he left an indelible mark on the literary world not least because of his course at the UEA in Norwich. He published Possibilities: Essays on the State of the Novel in 1973, The History Man in 1975, Who Do You Think You Are? in 1976, Rates of Exchange in 1983 and Cuts: A Very Short Novel in 1987. Some of his works made it to the big screen as well as adaptations for TV the most famous of which was The History Man which was broadcast by the BBC as a four-part serial in 1981. It starred Antony Sher as Howard Kirk and Geraldine James as his wife Barbara; Isla Blair played Flora Beniform. Exteriors for the series were shot at the University of Lancaster and in Bristol. This was the cover for his book 'The History Man'. It shows a dog buried up to its neck in an unidentifiable mass. It was painted by Francisco Goya between 1820 and 1823 directly on to the wall of his house. The dog is gazing upward perhaps in awe, waiting for the right moment, or wishing he could scale the height but can't. Sometimes City fans must feel that way; usually being thwarted, time and again, in our desire to reach greater success. The painting, part of Goya's 'dark period' after suffering two life threatening illnesses, was never meant for public display but today sits in The Prado Museum in Madrid as one of 14 he originally painted on the walls of Quinta del Sordo, his last home. Manuel Mena, Curator at the Prado, claimed: "There is not a single contemporary painter in the world that does not pray in front of The Dog" so named was the painting by the museum. It was revered by the likes of Picasso and Miró and Rafael Canogar referred to it as a "visual poem" and cited it as the first Symbolist painting of the Western world. Spanish painter Antonio Saura thought The Dog "the world's most beautiful picture". Nobody appreciates something that comes easy as much as something achieved through toil and sweat. I too appreciate that 'image' of this dog, of 'the dog'. It seems to encapsulate life in general. At times the 'unidentifiable mass' that the dog is engulfed in might seem like quick sand where one feels the sensation of drowning and helplessness and, at others, perhaps water that one can wade through with relative ease. Either way one should never expect life to be impossible or easy. But the dog seems transfixed and determined. I think that is what is so compelling with this painting and I like to think this is how City are this season. Nothing is going to stop them looking forward, working hard, taking the plaudits, enjoying it and just repeating it week in and week out. Have a closer look. Bit like Noble after he scored that goal against Palace in the semi final of the play offs; I remember an image of him looking up. Whoever goes to Norwich today deserves a medal. 480 miles round trip. That is some commitment and some cost. Well done all of you and have a great day. Bring back the 3 points. Wow, what a wonderful read for a Saturday morning, and such an interesting take on the MDT. So poignant for me personally, as I struggle to save for uni fees etc and feel so stuck in a job I am beginning to despise. I might have to buy a print of this painting or just go to Madrid, and buy some more books… Hope everyone travelling to Norwich have a good day and safe travels…and City collect 3 points! Great film "Remains of the Day", filmed locally in Bath, Clevedon, Weston Super Mare, and that pub in that village that I can't remember he name of… Edited September 23, 2017 by exAtyeoMax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Match day thread of the season (so far). Brilliant read @havanatopia. As for today. It's going to be a tough one. I'd be over the moon with a win but think a point would be a good day at the office. COYR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Morning all. Great thread as usual @havanatopia. Safe journey to all travelling. COYR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Our recent form is giving me cause for optimism, which in turn worries me because every time I feel optimistic about a game we lose. I reckon a draw. Safe journey to all those travelling. COYR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, chinapig said: Havanatopia, you have set the bar higher than ever with this week's effort. Bloody brilliant. I don't know about Norwich's claim to being a city of culture and literary excellence, but to the list of Bristol's notable contributors to the arts - , Banksy, Massive Attack, Adge Cutler, JK Rowling ( Yate counts?), Cary Grant, John Cleese ( for W-S-M see Yate) and Damian Hirst perhaps we should be adding Havana's name? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Offside said: Our recent form is giving me cause for optimism, which in turn worries me because every time I feel optimistic about a game we lose. I reckon a draw. Safe journey to all those travelling. COYR Simple solution. Read some of Thatch35's posts and you will her bathed in a glow of healthy pessimism, which should counteract the effects of optimism. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, downendcity said: I don't know about Norwich's claim to being a city of culture and literary excellence, but to the list of Bristol's notable contributors to the arts - , Banksy, Massive Attack, Adge Cutler, JK Rowling ( Yate counts?), Cary Grant, John Cleese ( for W-S-M see Yate) and Damian Hirst perhaps we should be adding Havana's name? Plus Stoney Garnet Well done @havanatopia, you managed to write an enthralling into without mentioning Delia Smith CH CBE, to give her her full title. However I've been thinking about this and come to the conclusion Delia Smith = cooking = food for thought = I've thought about it and it's 3-1 to City. Get your bets on now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Plus Stoney Garnet Well done @havanatopia, you managed to write an enthralling into without mentioning Delia Smith CH CBE, to give her her full title. However I've been thinking about this and come to the conclusion Delia Smith = cooking = food for thought = I've thought about it and it's 3-1 to City. Get your bets on now Your right Pongo - he did. Let's be havin' you Havana!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: Match day thread of the season (so far). Brilliant read @havanatopia. As for today. It's going to be a tough one. I'd be over the moon with a win but think a point would be a good day at the office. COYR 33 minutes ago, Super said: Morning all. Great thread as usual @havanatopia. Safe journey to all travelling. COYR. 19 minutes ago, downendcity said: I don't know about Norwich's claim to being a city of culture and literary excellence, but to the list of Bristol's notable contributors to the arts - , Banksy, Massive Attack, Adge Cutler, JK Rowling ( Yate counts?), Cary Grant, John Cleese ( for W-S-M see Yate) and Damian Hirst perhaps we should be adding Havana's name? 4 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Plus Stoney Garnet Well done @havanatopia, you managed to write an enthralling into without mentioning Delia Smith CH CBE, to give her her full title. However I've been thinking about this and come to the conclusion Delia Smith = cooking = food for thought = I've thought about it and it's 3-1 to City. Get your bets on now Thanks to you guys. Thanks to everyone. Really appreciate the comments. Makes it all the more worthwhile each time I try and think up something interesting; not always relevant but always try to make a connection with the City and the the team we are playing even if tenuous not least because I do not want to repeat what I wrote in the previous encounter between the same two clubs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoliCyder Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Was going to go for 1-1 but can't help optimism at the moment so 2-1 to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CovCyder said: Was going to go for 1-1 but can't help optimism at the moment so 2-1 to us Kneel down but look up to the skies and prey... here... and you will be rewarded !! .. And perhaps Hegeler will score after coming on as a 2nd half substitute. Edited September 23, 2017 by havanatopia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Thanks to you guys. Thanks to everyone. Really appreciate the comments. Makes it all the more worthwhile each time I try and think up something interesting; not always relevant but always try to make a connection with the City and the the team we are playing even if tenuous not least because I do not want to repeat what I wrote in the previous encounter between the same two clubs. Great read as always, thank you H. My knowledge of my homeland grows with each of your posts. I know little about Norwich other than the Delia connection and it's the home of Colman's. https://www.colmans.co.uk/colmans-story As for today I have it as ending 1-1 which would be a decent away point. COYR. Edited September 23, 2017 by Jerseybean Typo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 points from next 2 matches would be great, 3 points from next 2 matches would be OK, but 6 points from next 2 matches would be absolutely unbelievable (pinch yourself time). COYR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 City to go 1 up, norwich to score 2, city to score a last gasp equaliser. 2-2. COYR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packman Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, DaveInSA said: City to go 1 up, norwich to score 2, city to score a last gasp equaliser. 2-2. COYR Just like Brentford then!! What a day that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 If we get the three points today it will definitely be time for dancing in my living room to MacArthur Park. I save that for special occasions only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webzcas Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Stayed overnight with relatives just outside Yarmouth. Ticket bought, now for wetherspoons! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, RumRed said: If we get the three points today it will definitely be time for dancing in my living room to MacArthur Park. I save that for special occasions only. In your pants? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: In your pants? With a schooner of Cherry B, there are other ways? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, RumRed said: With a schooner of Cherry B, there are other ways? And I`m guessing it would be the Donna Summer version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, RumRed said: If we get the three points today it will definitely be time for dancing in my living room to MacArthur Park. I save that for special occasions only. On of the most surreal experiences of 2016 was seeing John Cooper Clarke singing Macarthur Park with Hugh Cornwell at The Forum, Kentish Town. Truly astonishing 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: And I`m guessing it would be the Donna Summer version? Do you take me for a heathen? Dicky all the way for me. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5-0 to City. Manager of the month confirmed. Shit. tfj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, RumRed said: Do you take me for a heathen? Dicky all the way for me. Wow, that would be a sight to behold… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 it would be an interesting and rewarding experience for English literature students as part of their degree to do a compare and contrast question between the opening post and some of NTTDS more esoteric posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: On of the most surreal experiences of 2016 was seeing John Cooper Clarke singing Macarthur Park with Hugh Cornwell at The Forum, Kentish Town. Truly astonishing I`m going to see the legend that is JCC tonight! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Abraham Romanovich said: it would be an interesting and rewarding experience for English literature students as part of their degree to do a compare and contrast question between the opening post and some of NTTDS more esoteric posts. and even the abstract added by Big Tone… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: I`m going to see the legend that is JCC tonight! Oh, I love him. Wuz ee too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Oh, I love him. Wuz ee too? The Plough in Torrington. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: The Plough in Torrington. I bet it'll be brilliant. Sounds like a great venue/location for a JCC gig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Against all logic atm ! but down to the unpredictably of this league , our record at Carrow Road , have a bad vibe for a narrow defeat today Hope I'm wrong and current form tells A free hit and a good test of our progress COYR Edited September 23, 2017 by BobBobSuperBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I bet it'll be brilliant. Sounds like a great venue/location for a JCC gig! Oh it is. it will be just up his street, a medium sized arts centre with a fairly small audience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Against all logic atm ! but down to the unpredictably of this league , our record at Carrow Road , have a bad vibe for a narrow defeat today Hope I'm wrong and current form tells A free hit and a good test of our progress COYR Lets just hope we don`t go into meltdown on here if we do get beaten badly. Norwich as far as I can see are the sort of side that we`ll either beat narrowly or lose by a few to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbsoldun Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Oh it is. it will be just up his street, a medium sized arts centre with a fairly small audience. Been a while since I last saw the Legend That Is JCC!! Regards to Motorcycle Michael!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Oh, I love him. Wuz ee too? Are you an ealth fanatic ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 The way we are playing with a pretty settled team means anything can happen. We need to convert those scoring chances we are missing though. Not saying we have not been scoring enough, but we are missing a lot too. I think we can come home with 3 points today and the Canaries are not looking that great with a goal difference of-4 this season. Also Oliviera is out for them as well, so hard to see where they will be getting their goals from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Oh, I love him. Wuz ee too? Yes, amazing stuff especially the 1st couple of albums. Went off the rails for a while and I am not sure how he survived. I remember seeing an interview with him where they asked him about his tour of Australia, he looked shocked and claimed he no recollection of ever going there! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Before the away games at Reading, Wolves and Norwich I suspect most fans were pretty pessimistic and would have been delighted if we came away with 2/3 points from all 3 games. The fact that we gained 4 points from the first 2 means that even if we lose today we have already done far better than most expected. Perhaps it is a sign of the teams growing confidence and level of performance and fans optimism and expectation that most will now be disappointed if we draw, let alone lose, today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAZ MICHAELS Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 No idea on today's result, anything could happen. We are definitely capable of winning, but so are Norwich. Probably be tight game with one goal either way, hopefully in our favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, downendcity said: Before the away games at Reading, Wolves and Norwich I suspect most fans were pretty pessimistic and would have been delighted if we came away with 2/3 points from all 3 games. The fact that we gained 4 points from the first 2 means that even if we lose today we have already done far better than most expected. Perhaps it is a sign of the teams growing confidence and level of performance and fans optimism and expectation that most will now be disappointed if we draw, let alone lose, today Normally I would say our worst enemy would be ourselves, but I think having players waiting to drop into any position will stop complacency setting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 We are certainly getting the rub of the green right now. Fancy us with a 2-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: The way we are playing with a pretty settled team means anything can happen. We need to convert those scoring chances we are missing though. Not saying we have not been scoring enough, but we are missing a lot too. I think we can come home with 3 points today and the Canaries are not looking that great with a goal difference of-4 this season. Also Oliviera is out for them as well, so hard to see where they will be getting their goals from. They`ve got a few out looking at their forum, Martin & Naismith definitely, Maddison possibly and it appears touch and go if Hoolahan will be fit. They say some nice things about Korey on there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Another extremely tough away game today - have predicted losses on last 2 league games, today predicted a draw. Blame me if we lose. COYR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: Wow, what a wonderful read for a Saturday morning, and such an interesting take on the MDT. So poignant for me personally, as I struggle to save for uni fees etc and feel so stuck in a job I am beginning to despise. I might have to buy a print of this painting or just go to Madrid, and buy some more books… Hope everyone travelling to Norwich have a good day and safe travels…and City collect 3 points! Great film "Remains of the Day", filmed locally in Bath, Clevedon, Weston Super Mare, and that pub in that village that I can't remember he name of… The Hop Pole, Limpley Stoke, or was that a different film? Scenes for The Remains of the Day were filmed at Corsham Court and Dyrham Park, so maybe the pub in question was closer to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 hours ago, havanatopia said: Remember the film 'Never Let Me Go' ? I always wanted to see it simply because it had a scene on Clevedon beach and the Pier. The rest of it, while well acted and starring Keira Knightly and Charlotte Rampling, I found dark and disturbing. Norwich has long been a creative centre where such productions began their life. What makes a city a literary giant? According to Unesco, it takes a rare and rarified combination of editorial initiatives and educational programmes, lashings of libraries, bookstores and cultural centres, plus a vibrant literary event scene. In short, it’s the extent to which literature plays an integral role in the urban environment and the only two cities in England to have earned the status so far are Norwich in 2012 and Nottingham in 2015. There are 20 currently around the world. Why is it that we seem to have a plethora of 'best city for this', 'world cultural capital for that', 'city with the best theatres' etc? The more 'lists' there are the more diluted the reading experience. I find it all rather tedious and a sort of 'dumming down' of things to read about. Is it partly because lists are easier to digest when there is an inxorable move toward on line reading over print? I think so. I am completely and utterly bored and I am sure, also, are most of you. Real authors like Malcolm Bradbury do interest me though and he started a degree course at the University of East Anglia at Norwich called an MA in Creative Writing. From that course some of the best modern day writings have emerged in print and on our screens. Ian McEwan and Kazuo Ishiguro took that course and became superb writers and novelists in their own right. Among many well known novels Ishiguro wrote such as 'The Remains of the Day' , in 1989, which went on to become award winning films with an all star cast including Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson with screenplay by Harold Pinter. Ishiguro, born in Japan but raised in the UK also wrote that disturbing novel 'Never Let Me Go' . It was positively received and a master of writing. McEwan is well known for writing 'Atonement', also adapted for the big screen and again starring Kinghtly, as well as Enduring Love with Daniel Craig and Bill Nighy. Both authors have been highly decorated in their careers to date. Malcolm Bradbury, who passed away in Norwich in 2000 at the tender age of 68 was not a prolific novelist but he left an indelible mark on the literary world not least because of his course at the UEA in Norwich. He published Possibilities: Essays on the State of the Novel in 1973, The History Man in 1975, Who Do You Think You Are? in 1976, Rates of Exchange in 1983 and Cuts: A Very Short Novel in 1987. Some of his works made it to the big screen as well as adaptations for TV the most famous of which was The History Man which was broadcast by the BBC as a four-part serial in 1981. It starred Antony Sher as Howard Kirk and Geraldine James as his wife Barbara; Isla Blair played Flora Beniform. Exteriors for the series were shot at the University of Lancaster and in Bristol. This was the cover for his book 'The History Man'. It shows a dog buried up to its neck in an unidentifiable mass. It was painted by Francisco Goya between 1820 and 1823 directly on to the wall of his house. The dog is gazing upward perhaps in awe, waiting for the right moment, or wishing he could scale the height but can't. Sometimes City fans must feel that way; usually being thwarted, time and again, in our desire to reach greater success. The painting, part of Goya's 'dark period' after suffering two life threatening illnesses, was never meant for public display but today sits in The Prado Museum in Madrid as one of 14 he originally painted on the walls of Quinta del Sordo, his last home. Manuel Mena, Curator at the Prado, claimed: "There is not a single contemporary painter in the world that does not pray in front of The Dog" so named was the painting by the museum. It was revered by the likes of Picasso and Miró and Rafael Canogar referred to it as a "visual poem" and cited it as the first Symbolist painting of the Western world. Spanish painter Antonio Saura thought The Dog "the world's most beautiful picture". Nobody appreciates something that comes easy as much as something achieved through toil and sweat. I too appreciate that 'image' of this dog, of 'the dog'. It seems to encapsulate life in general. At times the 'unidentifiable mass' that the dog is engulfed in might seem like quick sand where one feels the sensation of drowning and helplessness and, at others, perhaps water that one can wade through with relative ease. Either way one should never expect life to be impossible or easy. But the dog seems transfixed and determined. I think that is what is so compelling with this painting and I like to think this is how City are this season. Nothing is going to stop them looking forward, working hard, taking the plaudits, enjoying it and just repeating it week in and week out. Have a closer look. Bit like Noble after he scored that goal against Palace in the semi final of the play offs; I remember an image of him looking up. Whoever goes to Norwich today deserves a medal. 480 miles round trip. That is some commitment and some cost. Well done all of you and have a great day. Bring back the 3 points. No mention of Nicholas Parsons, Peter Fenn, or The Quiz of The Week. What a let down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: The Hop Pole, Limpley Stoke, or was that a different film? Scenes for The Remains of the Day were filmed at Corsham Court and Dyrham Park, so maybe the pub in question was closer to them. Decent pub, that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Back in the day, I remember meeting the lads on a London-bound train, on their way to Norwich. Things have changed a bit since then, but it's still a hell of a schlep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man in the middle Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 This will be a very tough game, Norwich have a very good home record. I'm hoping for a 0-0 Draw today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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