Fordy62 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I’m not surprised people take breaks from this forum. Can’t say I blame them. Arguably our most consistent player and certainly should be in the running for POTS and he gets vilified the moment he makes a mistake and all I hear is shit like “Fielding flaps again” or a shitty Facebook poll about who should start - Fielding or Steele. That’s ignoring the fact that the chap on bbc live updates seeming to imply it was a foul on FF for their first goal. Frankie has had a brilliant season and should command some respect for how well he’s playing. Yet we all want to kiss his balls when he digs out a wonder save at the death. The continual shit Frankie gets is completely unwarranted and unfair. And it ***** me off. Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Incredible aint it. Can count his mistakes this season on one hand. Anyone who knows about keeping knows he is better than Steele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I didn't really feel it was Fieldings fault for the first goal, though it's undeniable that a bigger, more imposing keeper would probably have got a fist on that ball. He then made a couple of great saves in the 2nd half. Fielding has been good all season (at least when I've watched) but I always have the feeling we good do better. Not a criticism of FF, just a statement of opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkz 76 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Yet the wonder saves IE away to Sheffield united are forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 But we didn’t win, so it obviously has to be someone’s fault. Plus of course Woodrow wasn’t in the squad & Diony was only an unused sub, so even the most rabid on here couldn’t blame either of them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I’m not surprised people take breaks from this forum. Can’t say I blame them. Arguably our most consistent player and certainly should be in the running for POTS and he gets vilified the moment he makes a mistake and all I hear is shit like “Fielding flaps again” or a shitty Facebook poll about who should start - Fielding or Steele. That’s ignoring the fact that the chap on bbc live updates seeming to imply it was a foul on FF for their first goal. Frankie has had a brilliant season and should command some respect for how well he’s playing. Yet we all want to kiss his balls when he digs out a wonder save at the death. The continual shit Frankie gets is completely unwarranted and unfair. And it ***** me off. Rant over. The matchday threads are like that: one moment someone's a useless lady garden, the next they are Christ resurrected. Often according to the same poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, chipdawg said: I didn't really feel it was Fieldings fault for the first goal, though it's undeniable that a bigger, more imposing keeper would probably have got a fist on that ball. He then made a couple of great saves in the 2nd half. Fielding has been good all season (at least when I've watched) but I always have the feeling we good do better. Not a criticism of FF, just a statement of opinion And I think this is partly my problem. We think we can do better without any real justification. We could do better than Flint, Baker, Reid, Smith, Pack. We could do better than anyone. But we have to attract the players that are better. So can we? Fielding has been brilliant, yet for some reason - and this isn’t a dig at you directly Chip as many share your viewpoint- but people seem to think he needs replacing. We wouldn’t dream of suggestions to replace Reid, so why so with Frankie when he’s in the best form we’ve ever seen him have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I opened this thread out of sight of Mrs Isewater but vow that I'm a little disappointed with the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, Fordy62 said: And I think this is partly my problem. We think we can do better without any real justification. We could do better than Flint, Baker, Reid, Smith, Pack. We could do better than anyone. But we have to attract the players that are better. So can we? Fielding has been brilliant, yet for some reason - and this isn’t a dig at you directly Chip as many share your viewpoint- but people seem to think he needs replacing. We wouldn’t dream of suggestions to replace Reid, so why so with Frankie when he’s in the best form we’ve ever seen him have? I don't necessarily think he needs replacing, I think he's a good chanpionship keeper. But I also think there are guys who have Frankie's ability but are 6'4" and can compete physically with donkeys like Keiffer Moore. Now I wouldn't advocate for replacing him and he wouldn't be the first player I'd want to upgrade, but I do think we could find a better player in Europe or the Lower leagues if we really looked. But as I said, he's played well this season and deserves credit for the consistency of his performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 When you look at the Barnsley keeper waving our second into the net then you have to appreciate fielding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I’m not surprised people take breaks from this forum. Can’t say I blame them. Arguably our most consistent player and certainly should be in the running for POTS and he gets vilified the moment he makes a mistake and all I hear is shit like “Fielding flaps again” or a shitty Facebook poll about who should start - Fielding or Steele. That’s ignoring the fact that the chap on bbc live updates seeming to imply it was a foul on FF for their first goal. Frankie has had a brilliant season and should command some respect for how well he’s playing. Yet we all want to kiss his balls when he digs out a wonder save at the death. The continual shit Frankie gets is completely unwarranted and unfair. And it ***** me off. Rant over. Yeah mate agree time for a break myself I think...he has been very solid this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 So we just need to find a good shot stopper who is commanding of his area and catches every cross. Is De Gea available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: But we didn’t win, so it obviously has to be someone’s fault. Plus of course Woodrow wasn’t in the squad & Diony was only an unused sub, so even the most rabid on here couldn’t blame either of them.. It's Bailey Wright's turn today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedDave said: So we just need to find a good shot stopper who is commanding of his area and catches every cross. Is De Gea available? Maybe not. Decide how you want to play and what attributes the Keepers will need. Elements can outweigh others. Passing teams like Fulham place emphasis on Keepers ball skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Sparkz 76 said: Yet the wonder saves IE away to Sheffield united are forgotten Agreed. he gets a very rough ride on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, MarcusX said: Agreed. he gets a very rough ride on this forum He always has, ever since he arrived. Yet he's seen off every bit of competition for his place from keepers who were supposedly much better than him, so he must be doing something right. He has his flaws and of course we could improve on him, but any keeper we signed would have to be a significant upgrade to justify the sizeable fee that we'd probably have to pay. And I suspect a new keeper is probably some way down the list of priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Some terrific saves by frankie today. Probably one of our better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: I’m not surprised people take breaks from this forum. Can’t say I blame them. Arguably our most consistent player and certainly should be in the running for POTS and he gets vilified the moment he makes a mistake and all I hear is shit like “Fielding flaps again” or a shitty Facebook poll about who should start - Fielding or Steele. That’s ignoring the fact that the chap on bbc live updates seeming to imply it was a foul on FF for their first goal. Frankie has had a brilliant season and should command some respect for how well he’s playing. Yet we all want to kiss his balls when he digs out a wonder save at the death. The continual shit Frankie gets is completely unwarranted and unfair. And it ***** me off. Rant over. Good post Fordy Anyone mention from those about whoever was meant to be marking Moore .... ..... No ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 A typical Frankie match , moments of madness equalled by world class saves . He makes up for his faults by these and his huge desire to win , We could get a technically better keeper but Frankie is hard to dislodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Frankie have saved many Points for us this season. his best season so far Kicking the ball is ok the last games, people talking that he cant kick the ball. For me he is a very good GK. Well done FF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Frankie's wonder saves are often glossed over and forgotten, the sky reporter said he made a very good save today as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, hodge said: Frankie's wonder saves are often glossed over and forgotten, the sky reporter said he made a very good save today as well. Think Johnny Phillips described it as ‘ an unbelievable save ‘ I’ve said before - One ofbthe reasons Flint is absolutely vital for us is he protects FF aerially which down to stature is his vulnerable area - great shot stopper and overall a very decent keeper for us IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: In my opinion we should be looking for an upgrade in the summer. Pulled off some good saves this season, but there's a few areas of his game that are not good enough imo like commanding his six yard box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, RobintheRed Red said: like cimmanding his six yard box You won’t find many such commanding keepers who due to stature are then as quick or agile as FF or in his league in terms of shot stopping And if you can identify one tell SL he may need to Mortgage the West Stand ! As an all round package FF is decent for us IMO and there are prob only one or two keepers in Championship that I’d swap him with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: You won’t find many such commanding keepers who due to stature are then as quick or agile as FF or in his league in terms of shot stopping And if you can identify one tell SL he may need to Mortgage the West Stand ! As an all round package FF is decent for us IMO and there are prob only one or two keepers in Championship that I’d swap him with all about opinions but most crosses he frightens the shit out of me good shot stopper granted but im sure the back four would love to see him come and take the ball todays first goal was headed in in his six yard box although Bailey wright took the blame the guy on sky sports said he made up after being at fault for the first goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: I’m not surprised people take breaks from this forum. Can’t say I blame them. Arguably our most consistent player and certainly should be in the running for POTS and he gets vilified the moment he makes a mistake and all I hear is shit like “Fielding flaps again” or a shitty Facebook poll about who should start - Fielding or Steele. That’s ignoring the fact that the chap on bbc live updates seeming to imply it was a foul on FF for their first goal. Frankie has had a brilliant season and should command some respect for how well he’s playing. Yet we all want to kiss his balls when he digs out a wonder save at the death. The continual shit Frankie gets is completely unwarranted and unfair. And it ***** me off. Rant over. He was our best player today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Maybe we should get Parish back from....Dundee......he was better than him according to most on here... Or maybe Hamer from being Leicester 4th choice....? Or RO’D? He was better than him too. Ah wait he shipped 4 today and is on course to be a League Two keeper next year. What about Geifer? I miss seeing him not being able to kick the ball further than 25 yards. Or we could just actually accept Frank is a ******* good keeper? Loves the club and city to death too. No idea what the vendetta against him is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, hodge said: Frankie's wonder saves are often glossed over and forgotten, the sky reporter said he made a very good save today as well. I can't forget that if it wasn't for Frankie's save in the last 5 mins we would have lost to Sunderland it was nearly a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, RobintheRed Red said: all about opinions but most crosses he frightens the shit out of me good shot stopper granted but im sure the back four would love to see him come and take the ball todays first goal was headed in in his six yard box although Bailey wright took the blame the guy on sky sports said he made up after being at fault for the first goal If you panic now - wait till we sell Flint to the highest bidder !!!! ( I have previously said that at that point we may have to rethink FF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, petehinton said: Maybe we should get Parish back from....Dundee......he was better than him according to most on here... Or maybe Hamer from being Leicester 4th choice....? Or RO’D? He was better than him too. Ah wait he shipped 4 today and is on course to be a League Two keeper next year. What about Geifer? I miss seeing him not being able to kick the ball further than 25 yards. Or we could just actually accept Frank is a ******* good keeper? Loves the club and city to death too. No idea what the vendetta against him is all about. A common theme is Frankie Fieldings distribution and positional play. Ball skill is 66% of a Keepers game - source the FA . Frankie Fielding's distribution is not of a high standard. That is the majority of a Keepers contact with the football. Fielding's positioning. He does not play outside of his box offensively or defensively. Modern Keepers are now frequently intervening, playing high and joining in e.g. 4-4-2 is 1-4-4-2. allowing full backs to play high creating over loads in midfield as the Keeper sweeps. A Keeper who can play high and joins in adeptly adds a entire new dimension to any team. Bristol City as supposedly a team playing through the thirds, retention and cohesive possession should be areas where the team can be progressed. With Frank Fielding his lack of technical ability means that the team will always lack tactical flexibility while he is in goal. Its tactical observation, hardly vendetta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Magnússon then Fielding then Wright then Famara I think that’s how the blame game goes. Maybe swap Wright and Famara. People are never happy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cowshed said: A common theme is Frankie Fieldings distribution and positional play. Ball skill is 66% of a Keepers game - source the FA . Frankie Fielding's distribution is not of a high standard. That is the majority of a Keepers contact with the football. Fielding's positioning. He does not play outside of his box offensively or defensively. Modern Keepers are now frequently intervening, playing high and joining in e.g. 4-4-2 is 1-4-4-2. allowing full backs to play high creating over loads in midfield as the Keeper sweeps. A Keeper who can play high and joins in adeptly adds a entire new dimension to any team. Bristol City as supposedly a team playing through the thirds, retention and cohesive possession should be areas where the team can be progressed. With Frank Fielding his lack of technical ability means that the team will always lack tactical flexibility while he is in goal. Its tactical observation, hardly vendetta. Name a single goalkeeper in the championship who is a sweeper keeper? This whole ‘keeper needs to be like another midfielder’ outlook only came to England since Pep came in and brought in Bravo so isn’t exactly crucial. Ruddy isn’t that type of keeper at all and Wolves are doing just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Not saying Frankie was at fault for the goal, Baker or Wright or Pisano could've and should've provided the aerial muscle in Flint's absence, but i felt he could've come through the crowd of players to make the ball his, it was 'neither here nor there' sort of attempt. In fairness, there were 2 attempts in the 2nd half where Barnsley looked odds on to score, one i'm still not sure how they missed, and a one on one where the striker will feel they should've done better but Frankie made a brilliant save. Thus he redeemed himself. The defence looked all over the place today, Flint a massive miss. No one taking control or commanding the ball, the space, the threat (in truth what little there was offered by Barnsley), and their 2nd is an absolute shocker in terms of awareness, positioning, watching the space. Awful. But nowt Frankie could do about that. He got bugger all protection from 3 players that couldn't mark one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, petehinton said: Name a single goalkeeper in the championship who is a sweeper keeper? This whole ‘keeper needs to be like another midfielder’ outlook only came to England since Pep came in and brought in Bravo so isn’t exactly crucial. Ruddy isn’t that type of keeper at all and Wolves are doing just fine. I will name you a team who attempt to play high lines and press high ... They are called Bristol City. The technical point I made would allow Bristol City to play even higher wouldn't it? It would add a further dimension? Ruddy does join in. Fielding is almost a bystander. A better parallel would be Bettellini at Fulham, He makes more interventions outside of the box and plays to feet more successfully (far shorter), his team mates use him to control possession as you should expect in a team based on possession. With the greatest respect City players regularly ignore Frank Fielding as an option. Quick edit ... The sweeper Keeper origins could be Liverpool = Clemence and Grobbelaar. It is not new. Barthez did it sometimes poorly at Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 The poor man's Mike Gibson, i.e. On average more than one major error per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Fordy62 said: I’m not surprised people take breaks from this forum. Can’t say I blame them. Arguably our most consistent player and certainly should be in the running for POTS and he gets vilified the moment he makes a mistake and all I hear is shit like “Fielding flaps again” or a shitty Facebook poll about who should start - Fielding or Steele. That’s ignoring the fact that the chap on bbc live updates seeming to imply it was a foul on FF for their first goal. Frankie has had a brilliant season and should command some respect for how well he’s playing. Yet we all want to kiss his balls when he digs out a wonder save at the death. The continual shit Frankie gets is completely unwarranted and unfair. And it ***** me off. Rant over. Totally agree and he made an utterly amazing save to cover up some other players **** up in this game. The people criticising should be asking where the **** were the central defenders supposedly marking the goalscorer?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueredsupporter Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, petehinton said: This whole ‘keeper needs to be like another midfielder’ outlook only came to England since Pep came in and brought in Bravo so isn’t exactly crucial. Tommy Lawrence and Liverpool under Shankly was decades before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreet Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 hours ago, chipdawg said: I didn't really feel it was Fieldings fault for the first goal, though it's undeniable that a bigger, more imposing keeper would probably have got a fist on that ball. He then made a couple of great saves in the 2nd half. Fielding has been good all season (at least when I've watched) but I always have the feeling we good do better. Not a criticism of FF, just a statement of opinion Our MOM today . Saved two certainties from their big number 19 who had our defence ragged and left FF exposed. The efforts were close to FF but his reactions to stop both were immense and he kept us in the game . Not at fault for goal one IMO , defence nowhere near that big centre forward as they weren’t until he was substituted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 hours ago, chipdawg said: I don't necessarily think he needs replacing, I think he's a good chanpionship keeper. But I also think there are guys who have Frankie's ability but are 6'4" and can compete physically with donkeys like Keiffer Moore. Now I wouldn't advocate for replacing him and he wouldn't be the first player I'd want to upgrade, but I do think we could find a better player in Europe or the Lower leagues if we really looked. But as I said, he's played well this season and deserves credit for the consistency of his performances Frankie’s wiki page says he’s 6 ft 1” - does anyone actually believe this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Frankie as been fantastic this season. I could never understand the stick he have taken over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 27 minutes ago, bs3 said: Frankie as been fantastic this season. I could never understand the stick he have taken over the years. I’ve been unconvinced by him in the past and wanted us to upgrade last the summer but this season he has really impressed me. His distribution could be quicker and more accurate but he is a superb shot stopper and has kept us in several matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 20 hours ago, Sparkz 76 said: Yet the wonder saves IE away to Sheffield united are forgotten I'm afraid most people do only remember the mistakes, the thing is goalkeepers are supposed to stop goals going in that's their job and when they don't it's very costly and we all tend to just remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 20 hours ago, pillred said: I'm afraid most people do only remember the mistakes, the thing is goalkeepers are supposed to stop goals going in that's their job and when they don't it's very costly and we all tend to just remember that. Stopping shots should be a given. In an instant rule changes in 92 lead to the Keepers game being primarily played with the feet. What people do not tend to think about because the English game technically is catching up is what happens to the possession a Keeper loses, or what is lost via opportunity the team does not have due to the limitation the Keeper has. In another thread it was pointed out that the money spent on Forwards versus Keepers is disproportionate. It is. The Keeper affects massively the teams style. In some teams that is a bigger determinant of how the team will play than the forwards will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 We've tried to bring in a new keeper to dislodge Frankie a few times since we signed him, the fact he's still our number one says a lot. His distribution and command of his area isn't great but that's why he is a championship keeper, shot stopping wise he's one of the best in the league, he's gained us so many points this season which shows just how good a keeper he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, JBFC II said: We've tried to bring in a new keeper to dislodge Frankie a few times since we signed him, the fact he's still our number one says a lot. His distribution and command of his area isn't great but that's why he is a championship keeper, shot stopping wise he's one of the best in the league, he's gained us so many points this season which shows just how good a keeper he is It highlights how little has been spent on the position. What would fans feel if the same sums were spent on forwards? Is he really one of the best shot stoppers in the league, or just good? His distribution and command of his area isn't great but ... Its an odd balance. How many point does that distribution lose? It cannot be quantified but Fielding's distribution means Bristol City have to defend lost possession more. Masses more. It is risk and reward. I make little reference to his shot stopping. The risk is his good does not outweigh what is lost. His distribution is division one standard in a team with aspirations to go higher?? If the teams future is to play like Cardiff it does not matter, but it is a footballing, pressing, high lines etc team it matters every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 30/03/2018 at 17:41, JonDolman said: In my opinion we should be looking for an upgrade in the summer. Pulled off some good saves this season, but there's a few areas of his game that are not good enough imo I think we should be looking for an upgrade, that would mean getting a top, top keeper. Frankie is decent at this level (Steele a more than capable, experienced no one and a half), but a top keeper would be an asset. On 30/03/2018 at 17:46, Fordy62 said: And I think this is partly my problem. We think we can do better without any real justification. We could do better than Flint, Baker, Reid, Smith, Pack. We could do better than anyone. But we have to attract the players that are better. So can we? Fielding has been brilliant, yet for some reason - and this isn’t a dig at you directly Chip as many share your viewpoint- but people seem to think he needs replacing. We wouldn’t dream of suggestions to replace Reid, so why so with Frankie when he’s in the best form we’ve ever seen him have? I think we can do better. But as above that doesn’t mean I think Frank isn’t any good. I wouldn’t mind a Sam Johnstone, but to get a very good keeper, we are going to have to spend several million, unless we can find a jewel to polish. On 30/03/2018 at 19:03, BobBobSuperBob said: Think Johnny Phillips described it as ‘ an unbelievable save ‘ I’ve said before - One ofbthe reasons Flint is absolutely vital for us is he protects FF aerially which down to stature is his vulnerable area - great shot stopper and overall a very decent keeper for us IMO Yep, and we missed Flint big time on Friday. On 30/03/2018 at 23:36, BS4 on Tour... said: Frankie’s wiki page says he’s 6 ft 1” - does anyone actually believe this?! Yes, he’s a smidge taller than me, and i’m 6’1". I used to be 6’2", but i’m At that shrinking age! In the team photo he looks much shorter, but I think it’s a posture thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 30/03/2018 at 20:07, Cowshed said: I will name you a team who attempt to play high lines and press high ... They are called Bristol City. The technical point I made would allow Bristol City to play even higher wouldn't it? It would add a further dimension? Ruddy does join in. Fielding is almost a bystander. A better parallel would be Bettellini at Fulham, He makes more interventions outside of the box and plays to feet more successfully (far shorter), his team mates use him to control possession as you should expect in a team based on possession. With the greatest respect City players regularly ignore Frank Fielding as an option. Interesting because rumour has it Bettelini was someone we were very interested in last summer, Fulham wanted £5m (!) and yet up until recently he couldn’t get a game for them. When he did (at our place) he spent the entire game moaning to the ref about every single challenge on him, he was absolutely pathetic. I’m not sure we couldn’t get better than Frankie, (though as @Fordy62 rightly points out that could apply to every player) and also have a sneaking feeling that we might not take up Steele’s contract extension in order to bring someone new in, but I certainly don’t think Bettelini is £5m better than FF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I'll cross the Chelsea keeper off our list then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 17 hours ago, GrahamC said: Interesting because rumour has it Bettelini was someone we were very interested in last summer, Fulham wanted £5m (!) and yet up until recently he couldn’t get a game for them. When he did (at our place) he spent the entire game moaning to the ref about every single challenge on him, he was absolutely pathetic. I’m not sure we couldn’t get better than Frankie, (though as @Fordy62 rightly points out that could apply to every player) and also have a sneaking feeling that we might not take up Steele’s contract extension in order to bring someone new in, but I certainly don’t think Bettelini is £5m better than FF. The team needs should apply to every player. Bettelini is statistically a lot better at shot stopping and distribution than Frank Fielding. So is Button but not as good as Bettelini. That distribution fits a team need. If Fulhams Keepers do not fit the style the whole team suffers ... They are in that style worth millions. On Otib the is frequent reflection on Citys passing style. There is also reference to Citys high press. Both are affected by the Keeper. The team need surely must be a Keeper who fits this need not detracts from it, if playing through the thirds is Bristol Citys future . I am not sure Bristol City would get better than Frank Fielding either by spending nothing, but if building from the back is the future, if possession is the future I am 100% sure Bristol City can make an improvement by spending similar sums to what is invested in forwards. If a direct approach is the future Fieldings distribution compares with many. That team need is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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