joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, swanker said: What, you think O’Dowda had a good game? You should have heard the comments from the people sat near me! he did nothing second half ! No O’dowda wasnt the best but you lumped Eli in your statement as well which is clearly nonsense,if you don’t get the balls to wingers then what’s the point .As for the people sat next to you then they were Pissed I expect Edited August 4, 2018 by joe jordans teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bri Stool City said: why cant we look like we are going to be a very good team like Forest...ask yourself...do you see a difference..between them and us? £25 million! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, REDOXO said: That’s the spirit! **** the spirit! It’s about time people were honest instead of saying how great Forest are etc etc... If only everyone said it as it is, we were shit today for 70 minutes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Under LJ we will never have a team who can impose themselves on others, all were interested in is playing a game to contain and get by!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just about deserved a draw poor second half. Forest are a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said: @Esmond Million's Bung were you at the game today? If so, was our midfield non-existent as normal? I watched on BCTV. Our midfield was great for most of the first half Pack was excellent all game apart from the first 15 minutes of the 2nd half, Brownhill was my MOM I thought he was our best player and probably the best player on the pitch, COD not really in the game maybe not fit, Eliasson started well but tired in the last 20 minutes he was on but his defensive work was much better. What was different with our midfield today was that after a really poor first 15 minutes in the 2nd half we managed to get back our composure and looked good again, normally I would have expected our midfield to have totally caved in, but we need Smith to start IMO. The minus for me was we still lack a player to unlock defences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williams' Penalty Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 There I am getting excited about the new season, pretty happy with a draw against a side who will almost definitely be up there come the end of the season, talk sport saying "two excellent sides who will both kick on from here," really a positive start to the season. Unfortunately according to a few posters on here we were "dogs**t" and "litter." The only thing I'm glad to see the back of when the season ends is some of the utter rubbish posters come out with if we don't win 50-0. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bri Stool City said: why cant we look like we are going to be a very good team like Forest...ask yourself...do you see a difference..between them and us? ...about £50m on new players? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: £25 million! Also in fairness we do have some key suspensions/injuries/niggles, along with some pretty late signings. Some great interplay between their midfielders that was easy on the eye, but often did not go anywhere. Bit of a nothing second half from us, but dug in for a point. To many players ok for 60-70 minutes but having a bad patch. Will happily take mid table end of October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: Just about deserved a draw poor second half. Forest are a good team. Disagree I thought we were well worth a point and Forest might become a good team but look too much like a lot of individuals to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bri Stool City said: why cant we look like we are going to be a very good team like Forest...ask yourself...do you see a difference..between them and us? They spent 15 million on one player and god knows how much on the rest of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, downendcity said: ...about £50m on new players? Which we could spend if we wanted to of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Not read this thread but my thoughts are as follows performance about par not great not shit as I thought we lacked bit in the middle and there goal was predictable but I’ve seen enough to think we’re going to finish around 10th 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, cityexile said: Also in fairness we do have some key suspensions/injuries/niggles, along with some pretty late signings. Some great interplay between their midfielders that was easy on the eye, but often did not go anywhere. Bit of a nothing second half from us, but dug in for a point. To many players ok for 60-70 minutes but having a bad patch. Will happily take mid table end of October. Mid table at best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Disagree I thought we were well worth a point and Forest might become a good team but look too much like a lot of individuals to me. That will come for forest when they have played a few games together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 A new OTIB personal best. Some fans have thrown in the towel after ONE game (which we did not even lose). So, to beat the record, someone is going to have to post “we are bound to get relegated” after a pre season friendly next year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Williams' Penalty said: There I am getting excited about the new season, pretty happy with a draw against a side who will almost definitely be up there come the end of the season, talk sport saying "two excellent sides who will both kick on from here," really a positive start to the season. Unfortunately according to a few posters on here we were "dogs**t" and "litter." The only thing I'm glad to see the back of when the season ends is some of the utter rubbish posters come out with if we don't win 50-0. Bless you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Missed Diedhiou today. Thought that was a huge difference. Pato still better as a wide option imo. Bit deeper and easier for him to find space. Maybe start against lesser teams who look to get behind the ball and defend deep. COD didn’t look quite right but got some good minutes. Thought Pack and Brownhill were good but Watson and Guediora were better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I watched on BCTV. Our midfield was great for most of the first half Pack was excellent all game apart from the first 15 minutes of the 2nd half, Brownhill was my MOM I thought he was our best player and probably the best player on the pitch, COD not really in the game maybe not fit, Eliasson started well but tired in the last 20 minutes he was on but his defensive work was much better. What was different with our midfield today was that after a really poor first 15 minutes in the 2nd half we managed to get back our composure and looked good again, normally I would have expected our midfield to have totally caved in, but we need Smith to start IMO. The minus for me was we still lack a player to unlock defences. Sounds better. Indeed, still lacking a Paul Hartley type of midfielder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, KeepUpLino said: **** the spirit! It’s about time people were honest instead of saying how great Forest are etc etc... If only everyone said it as it is, we were shit today for 70 minutes... I’m disappointed too! **** Forest who knows/cares what they might do! As far as saying how it is...We got a point, our new striker scored and Eisa got on. We could have fallen apart after conceding but didn’t. Early doors, the window is till open this week could be interesting. Love the passion, chin up, we go again...! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: That will come for forest when they have played a few games together It might, but I am not so sure personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Red_Wizard said: Sounds better. Indeed, still lacking a Paul Hartley type of midfielder Yes we are, either that or maybe lacking the correct formation with what we have perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Southport Red said: A new OTIB personal best. Some fans have thrown in the towel after ONE game (which we did not even lose). So, to beat the record, someone is going to have to post “we are bound to get relegated” after a pre season friendly next year. What do you mean by “throwing in the towel”,I said earlier Rotherham Bolton and reading are doomed so we will be fine but I thought we were ment to progress season after season,are we going to ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Vast majority of those being extrenely negative are those who openly dislike LJ. Surely just a coincidence Or....we were just really poor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Unbeaten all season so far 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Missed Diedhiou today. Thought that was a huge difference. Pato still better as a wide option imo. Bit deeper and easier for him to find space. Maybe start against lesser teams who look to get behind the ball and defend deep. COD didn’t look quite right but got some good minutes. Thought Pack and Brownhill were good but Watson and Guediora were better. Everyone and his dog was claiming his poor form at the end of last season was because he wasn’t being played centrally Joe I think in theory he’s better drifting in that 10 role but he didn’t prove so today He had a chance to stake a claim today but didn’t do himself too many favours Talented , but The reality is , he’s inconsistent and goes missing in games and for periods of the season as he’s done thro his carer - He may miss out on a starting place when everyone’s fit 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) Vast majority of those being extrenely negative are those who openly dislike LJ. Surely just a coincidence Give it a rest James Edited August 4, 2018 by BobBobSuperBob 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: What do you mean by “throwing in the towel”,I said earlier Rotherham Bolton and reading are doomed so we will be fine but I thought we were ment to progress season after season,are we going to ? Wasn’t you I was referring to @joe jordans teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhamred Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 hours ago, chinapig said: Oi, Robbored is official tannoy correspondent around here! He is in the Dolman! We can’t hear it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I have to say I am sort of OK with what I saw today, after starting the 2nd half surrendering midfield and shipping the inevitable goal by the hour mark I feared the worst and expected our midfield to completely crumble but the introduction of Smith and Taylor strengthened our midfield assisted by the removal of Paterson. I hope that for the next game LJ starts with Taylor rather than Paterson, he offered nothing today apart from putting into trouble and Smith for COD. The keeper looks ok, I must say I quite like Hunt, he is robust and just keeps going, perhaps what people don't like about him is that he looks a little ungainly, Webster is quality, Baker is quality but sometimes is far too casual, Joe had a mixed game but mostly good, Eliasson tired towards the end but he has improved and will continue to improve, I hope that LJ shows him the same sort of patience that he shows Paterson. Brownhill was my MOM he played well throughout, Pack excellent in the first half, really poor for the first 15 minutes of the 2nd half and excellent from then to the end, ODowda does not look fit to me. Wiemann what an engine we might not miss Reid as much as people think. Smith one very loose pass but some great interceptions at very important times, we need him to start. Taylor as I said offers far more than Paterson and his link up play is far better. I don't know if Smith wasn't fully fit? Because if he wasn't, he should always be first on the teamsheet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brann-red Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Penalty shout? From where we were in the south stand genuinely thought it was a penalty .. would like to see it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Which we could spend if we wanted to of course We meaning SL presumably. Good of you to spend it for him though. Personally I prefer a club that plays by the rules, doesn't have a dubious owner and doesn't have a relationship with any shady so called super agent. But I appreciate some fans would welcome any passing oligarch or dictator if they were prepared to gamble with the club's future. Perhaps a Jordanian 'billionaire' is the answer? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Everyone and his dog was claiming his poor form at the end of last season was because he wasn’t being played centrally Joe I think in theory he’s better drifting in that 10 role but he didn’t prove so today He had a chance to stake a claim today but didn’t do himself too many favours Talented , but The reality is , he’s inconsistent and goes missing in games and for periods of the season as he’s done thro his carer - He may miss out on a starting place when everyone’s fit I expect him to drop to the bench and that is a good option off the bench. I like him as a player but he is just one of those types who wilo be up and down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Vast majority of those being extrenely negative are those who openly dislike LJ. Surely just a coincidence And the positive people are banging on about forest spent money as a excuse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Southport Red said: A new OTIB personal best. Some fans have thrown in the towel after ONE game (which we did not even lose). So, to beat the record, someone is going to have to post “we are bound to get relegated” after a pre season friendly next year. Terry Butcher left his job as Indonesia manager before they had even played a game. That's the sort of effort that would go down well on OTIB - rubbish and gone before playing a single game! Relative to that, condemning the team after 90 minutes is letting them off lightly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I enjoyed the game some good football played by both teams. a fair result and a steady start. I know I get stick on here but it's all about opinions. I know you can't by everybody but we do lack one real quality midfielder someone who can see a opening. pack did ok today but for a long time we have missed this sort of player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Liked the Centre Halves splitting and Pack dropping in between to receive the ball Not sure when Korey came on why he was then designated that role Pack is better at it and Koreys energy would have been far more useful higher 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: We meaning SL presumably. Good of you to spend it for him though. Personally I prefer a club that plays by the rules, doesn't have a dubious owner and doesn't have a relationship with any shady so called super agent. But I appreciate some fans would welcome any passing oligarch or dictator if they were prepared to gamble with the club's future. Perhaps a Jordanian 'billionaire' is the answer? Here we go,the it’s not your money nonsense is so boring now,all I said was if he wanted to he could if you got your knickers in a twist over that then have a kip or sumat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: And the positive people are banging on about forest spent money as a excuse Spending bucket loads on players well beyond our financial reach didn't make any difference to Wolves' season last year then? Not an excuse - a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) On bus home from the game. I would have taken point at the start of the game, so it too disappointed. What a difference Smith made when he came on though, not least from an organisational point of view. I think it's fair to say playing brownhlll,O'Dowda,Ellison, and Patterson was an experiment that didn't really work. Plus points- New keeper did ok. Hunt was an upgrade at rb. Eliasons deliveries in the first half were excellent. I also thought pack had a good game. Minuses- Bryan carrying on his form from the end of last season. He seemed not really with it today. Webster bringing the ball out of defence. Looked like an accident waiting to happen. Plus he ducked out of a few challenges today. Brownhill and pack in the centre just does work. Brownhill looked a lot better when shifted to the right. Patterson- not sure what was going on today with him. Have the ball away badly when they hit the post. O'Dowda/eliason - you can play one or the either, not both. Defensively hunt was massively exposed in the first half. By having Eliason playing in front of him. One thing is for sure. Although forest have invested in some interesting players; they are no way a Wolves for this season. Nervous at the back; and lacking a bit in the middle of the park. Edited August 4, 2018 by ncnsbcfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I am usually more positive but it was a dull match. Some positives and some negatives. Just felt like that will be our season. Not great but not awful and we will finish midtable. I am ok with that. Our biggest hope to bettering that is Diedhiou. If comes back into it fit and firing then we could be dangerous but don’t see enough options to be a promotion side. Not enough goals or creativity but a well organised side who can play up to opposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Vast majority of those being extrenely negative are those who openly dislike LJ. Surely just a coincidence I still remain unconvinced by LJ, mainly because I fear that consistency from his teams will always be a problem. However I did see several things today that were different and impressive and hopefully something that we can build on. But I hope that playing Paterson come what may is not going to be the norm again this season, he has started the season in the same form as he left the last 22 games of last season and could have cost us the game on 3 occasions in 15 minutes during the 1st half. I did not see the same beauty in Forest that some seem to have seen but maybe that is just another stick to hit LJ with. I am reasonably happy, just a few tweaks for me and of course a creative midfielder who can unlock defences because that is one thing we do not have anywhere on the books. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdc Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bri Stool City said: Say what you think rather than what you are supposed to think....not many do or will Absolute horseshit. Why do the grumpies, the eeyores, think that being down on everything is evidence that only they are being accurate or truthful, while EVERYBODY else cannot possibly believe what they say, but must be dupes of unspecified others? Here's news for you, being a misery doesn't necessarily make you credible, or brave, or Insightful, but if you do it with 70%, 80%, 90% of your posts, it does point you out as a habitual misery. Equally, it is perfectly possible to think that everything is turning to crud, and actually believe that fro mthe evidence of your own eyes, not because it's because what someone else has told you to think. Not saying you don't have the right to your analysis, but don't dress it up as bravery or moral strength. Rant over..... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, downendcity said: Spending bucket loads on players well beyond our financial reach didn't make any difference to Wolves' season last year then? Not an excuse - a reason. You have to sign the right players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Typical opening game. We looked good first half, tired and mentally fatigued second- not surprising given how we play. We looked match sharpness, a bit of playing time together and a Famara away from being a very good side to me. I'm optimistic after that, even though I could have napped for the last 30 minutes. Bryan, he looked like he was going through the motions throughout unfortunately. Paterson ought to have played his way on to the bench too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Good time to play each other. A handful of new signings for both teams and neither of us were fully at it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Spending boat loads wins you nothing. Ask Villa, Boro, QPR and 50 others we could all go through. Building might give you something that makes you competitive. We had a dreadful window last season that cost us but we go again. 45 games to go and we are still in this! :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: No they arent. Them spending money has been mentioned, but not as an excuse in any way. To look at Forests signings and suggest they will be around the top end come May is not an unreasonable thought process, so the reality is we got a draw against a good side. Our performance dropped off after a bit, Forest werent at it from the start- both sides showing that the new players and old havent completely settled into knowing each others game inside out yet, which is to be expected. It is a decent result all told, albeit a little disappointing given we were ahead. Then why is their spending even mentioned if it isn’t a excuse,apart from that I agree with your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Missed Diedhiou today. Thought that was a huge difference. Pato still better as a wide option imo. Bit deeper and easier for him to find space. Maybe start against lesser teams who look to get behind the ball and defend deep. COD didn’t look quite right but got some good minutes. Thought Pack and Brownhill were good but Watson and Guediora were better. I'm sorry mate I really cannot let that go. The woeful form of Paterson in the final 22 games of last season was blamed by his glee club as being because he is a 'number 10' and not and never will be a wide player which where he played those 22 games, today he played 'number 10' and you claim that he is better as a wide option????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, downendcity said: Terry Butcher left his job as Indonesia manager before they had even played a game. Philippines Edited August 4, 2018 by Phileas Fogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) Would have taken a point beforehand so no issues with the final score In fact I’d say we got away with one What concerned me was as soon as we conceded the momentum of the game completely changed and under pressure in terms of the game momentum , and their pressing , our method of play and gameplan went completely out the window a la January onwards , players kicking it long , and anywhere , and loing composure and bravery on the ball , not helped by a complete lack of movement from their teammates - We turned into a shambles second half but at least dug in for a point A really good side or Forest later in season would have put us away Edited August 4, 2018 by BobBobSuperBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 The forest number 5 is some player bossed the midfield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I still remain unconvinced by LJ, mainly because I fear that consistency from his teams will always be a problem. However I did see several things today that were different and impressive and hopefully something that we can build on. But I hope that playing Paterson come what may is not going to be the norm again this season, he has started the season in the same form as he left the last 22 games of last season and could have cost us the game on 3 occasions in 15 minutes during the 1st half. I did not see the same beauty in Forest that some seem to have seen but maybe that is just another stick to hit LJ with. I am reasonably happy, just a few tweaks for me and of course a creative midfielder who can unlock defences because that is one thing we do not have anywhere on the books. Consistency is always going to be an unsolvable problem for LJ's team&s when he plays pivotal players like Patterson who are for want of another word; inconsistent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I still remain unconvinced by LJ, mainly because I fear that consistency from his teams will always be a problem. However I did see several things today that were different and impressive and hopefully something that we can build on. But I hope that playing Paterson come what may is not going to be the norm again this season, he has started the season in the same form as he left the last 22 games of last season and could have cost us the game on 3 occasions in 15 minutes during the 1st half. I did not see the same beauty in Forest that some seem to have seen but maybe that is just another stick to hit LJ with. I am reasonably happy, just a few tweaks for me and of course a creative midfielder who can unlock defences because that is one thing we do not have anywhere on the books. Well said EMB. I know that you are, and have been, a critic of LJs, but credit for finding positives in today's performance. It makes pleasant change from some of LJs critics, who see everything about the club, coach and team through jaundiced eyes and can only find negatives and criticism, no matter what or how we perform. 5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Philippines Close though! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, JamesBCFC said: Because one of the perenially suicidal asked the difference between us and Forest. Someone answered "about £25m in transfer fees" Thats literally the only mention of their money I saw during the post match wrist slitting. Wtf Sarcasm abound That makes a change eh Whilst you make comments on others opinions .... Did you watch the match out of interest James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I'm sorry mate I really cannot let that go. The woeful form of Paterson in the final 22 games of last season was blamed by his glee club as being because he is a 'number 10' and not and never will be a wide player which where he played those 22 games, today he played 'number 10' and you claim that he is better as a wide option????? Yes think he finds more space roaming from the left where it is harder to mark him. Of course he could roam from a central position but rarely did and barely touched the ball as a consequence. Even in his poor form he was getting on the ball but just didn’t look as sharp after a combination of burnout and virus. We saw him play centrally today and probably the worst I have seen him. Like he had no idea where to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Wanna know what out game plan is for this season. High press? Didn't see it Direct passing game? Didn't see it Wing back attacks? Didn't see it Long balls to short forwards ... loads of it ... and if that's the plan where the **** is duric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) Thought Weimann deserves some praise Thankless task , especially second half with s*** service and little support Never shirked a challenge despite getting a few npbattering challenges and worked hard and showed some good decision making and quality in moments Edited August 4, 2018 by BobBobSuperBob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I generally find your reports to reflect on the game a bit more negatively than my own, but that is simply a matter of opinions. However with your report on the game today you werent particularly negative and did say a few positives, but did highlight some concerns (not a criticism at all, but a good thing). So I actually took your thoughts on the game as a positive thing. I was more referring to the likes of Keepuplino and Wolf who have been open saying they still dont want LJ here (or words to that effect) being among the most critical today. I know you were, I wasn't trying to defend myself, I was actually trying to defend you because I believe that you are correct this time. Personally I don't care what people think about my reports, I try to be as honest as I can based on what I have just witnessed, I don't have an overriding need to be right either, because all I am interested in is seeing City progress but until we see consistency for me it will be the same old same old, I don't really have favourites within the team (I am a bit too old for that) and I know it might be difficult to believe but I don't dislike Paterson but I cannot see what over the now past 23 games he gives us I really don't, but I would love to see him tear up like some people believe that he did earlier last season, I am fed up about hearing about some of our players 'there is a good player in there', I can only judge in the here and now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I thought Paterson was really poor today. I guess it's typical of him to look very good when we are on top, like the first 20 minutes. But second half he went missing. He does work hard in that he runs around a lot, but he has no real fight in him. He can't head or tackle, and lacks that aggression that Taylor has. Doesn't really put himself about etc. He could do so much better than that. Agree with your post JD Exxept the highlighted bit If you watch gphim closely he’s what I call ‘cant quite make it’ player without the ball ie He will close down but not with any dynamism - he jogs generally and makes it look as if he’s working rather than full on - may align with your ‘No real fight in him comment’ Great skills on his day but needs to add much more Edited August 4, 2018 by BobBobSuperBob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Thought Weimann deserves some praise Thankless task , especially second half with s*** service and little support Never shirked a challenge despite getting a few npbattering challenges and worked hard and showed some good decision making and quality in moments Can’t argue that. Even did a job last 15 going out wide. Good debut and thought all the debutants were solid enough 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Yes think he finds more space roaming from the left where it is harder to mark him. Of course he could roam from a central position but rarely did and barely touched the ball as a consequence. Even in his poor form he was getting on the ball but just didn’t look as sharp after a combination of burnout and virus. We saw him play centrally today and probably the worst I have seen him. Like he had no idea where to be Well I can think of quite a few worse performances and boy there is a lot to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Because one of the perenially suicidal asked the difference between us and Forest. Someone answered "about £25m in transfer fees" Thats literally the only mention of their money I saw during the post match wrist slitting. Just imagine if we had a manager SL trusted with his money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Not sarcasm. Exaggeration to make a point. Unless we win 5-0 and dominate from start to finish then the usual suspects are on here saying "we're doomed" Again, a slight exaggeration, but not much. Commenting on others opinions, where? I said I find EMBs reports are generally of a more negative tone than how I see them. That's not a criticism of EMB, but an acknowledgement of how he and I see things differently. I then went on to say how his report of today gave me positives to take away. Was I there today, unfortunately not, I had work, and am back there again later so couldnt make it work timewise, but I been commenting on the result, not the performance, and amazingly (sarcasm) I was able to know the result without being there. I did however hear from the radio as I was walking home from my first shift (during the second half until the end of the game) that we were good value for the goal when we were ahead and a while after, but that Forest then became the better side and perhaps shaded the match. I will watch the game once it is on BCTV, and give my thoughts on the performance of individuals at that point. So you heard the warliss from the second half and feel you know better than people who watched it,what a belter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Not sarcasm. Exaggeration to make a point. Unless we win 5-0 and dominate from start to finish then the usual suspects are on here saying "we're doomed" Again, a slight exaggeration, but not much. Commenting on others opinions, where? I said I find EMBs reports are generally of a more negative tone than how I see them. That's not a criticism of EMB, but an acknowledgement of how he and I see things differently. I then went on to say how his report of today gave me positives to take away. Was I there today, unfortunately not, I had work, and am back there again later so couldnt make it work timewise, but I been commenting on the result, not the performance, and amazingly (sarcasm) I was able to know the result without being there. I did however hear from the radio as I was walking home from my first shift (during the second half until the end of the game) that we were good value for the goal when we were ahead and a while after, but that Forest then became the better side and perhaps shaded the match. I will watch the game once it is on BCTV, and give my thoughts on the performance of individuals at that point. Sarcasm abound James More ‘drama’ Straight on anyone who doesn’t wave the red flag vigorously Your immediate response to the criticisms was that it was people who want Johnson away from here with the inference ‘ignore them’ Whether you agree with those who have praised or criticised to constantly stoke the fire with your sarcasm (Getting a bit wearing post after post , every day tbh) is a bit crass when you havnt seen the game or performance theyre commenting on ( albeit fwiw I don’t personally agree with some of the extreme comments about the performance) Edited August 4, 2018 by BobBobSuperBob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 36 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: And the positive people are banging on about forest spent money as a excuse On the nose that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 You could see Forest have a decent team this season and expectedly so, with the money they have spent. Their passing was better than ours. I thought City played well for the first 20 mins and didn't let Forest settle, but it was always going to be difficult to keep that tempo going in the heat. I think Forest will be challenging this season and City will not be in trouble Johnson needs to work out what his best starting 11 is quickly, because I thought our midfield went missing until Korey Smith came on and Patterson looked ineffective today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Liked the Centre Halves splitting and Pack dropping in between to receive the ball Not sure when Korey came on why he was then designated that role Pack is better at it and Koreys energy would have been far more useful higher I liked Pack dropping back to form the three and you are right - Korey should have been used further up. It’s clearly something they have worked on and I want to see more. If the full backs push up to support the midfield it might work well Energy levels were dropping to be fair on a hot day. Weimann ran and ran. Some good bits, some bad bits ill take a draw all day long Edited August 4, 2018 by TonyTonyTony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 48 minutes ago, Southport Red said: A new OTIB personal best. Some fans have thrown in the towel after ONE game (which we did not even lose). So, to beat the record, someone is going to have to post “we are bound to get relegated” after a pre season friendly next year. It's acceptable to criticise a poor performance, first game or last. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, JamesBCFC said: No. You've read what you wanted to there. Have a look at the last bit again I havent said I know better than anyone at any point either, so dont start making up lies. I only read what you posted mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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