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Good win- albeit away to a very poor side who seem to have badly regressed on last season.

However Weimann is doing great, very happy for Taylor getting a goal there, of course winning at a ground we haven't gone to and win at since 1970 odd has to be a bit alright?

Still much to do, much to improve on- but this will undoubtedly boost confidence.

The team and LJ did what was necessary, at a time like this especially. They made sure we found a way to win.

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17 minutes ago, Chris_Brown said:

Goals for 6 Goals Against 5.

Exactly the same as last season after 4 games.

And our top scorer is Weimann, on 4, the same as Reid was after 4 games. 

Who do you think you are?

Coming on here quoting facts!

 

:)

 

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1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Boro aren’t a ‘top, top side’ - we made them look good though....

Quite agree. We’ve competed with them for years when we’ve played them . One result and all of a sudden they’re world beaters and a heavyweight to suit the argument. Forest werent all that either despite the constant mantra that they are amazing all of a sudden due to their spending. Anyway. We won away. A good day.  

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5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Nothing to do with being smug Bob. But the reaction to 3 games (of which we lost 1, to one of the division's true heavyweights) has been so enormously over the top. 

I think it was the lack of presence in either box in all three games that was  worrying and against boro it was embarrassing. Having watched that tonight , I’m obviously very please with the win but let’s be honest. QPR are terrible but could of easily been 2 up early on. The lack of any plan from us was worrying. Lumping it up to two small strikers seemed a strange decision . 

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1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

And with that, the comedown... Korey Smith confirmed as being out for 5-6 months. Longer than I'd thought

Not a good age for Korey to pick up a bad injury - plenty of players struggle to get back to their combative best at his age after a long time away - let's hope he is not rushed back this season.

We all want the battling Korey to return

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QPR ARE A CRAP TEAM SO WE ARE STILL CRAP RARGHHH

WEINMAN WILL NEVER REPLACE THE GOALS OF BOBBY REID, A GOD LIKE PLAYER WHO 12 MONTH AGO I WOULDNT OF CROSSED THE STREET TO PISS ON RARGHHH

HOW WILL WE EVER COMPETE IN THIS LEAGUE WHEN WE ONLY SCORE THREE PAST A TEAM WHEN WEST BROM MANAGED SEVEN RARGHHHHHH

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Didn't think QPR were any worse than Bolton were last year - yet we beat QPR with key players missing for us tonight and remember we lost to Bolton when we had a strong team.

Grinding out these wins will make a hell of a difference to where we finish this year - great 3 points tonight.  COYR

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10 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

It’s about looking a bit deeper and looking ahead 

I think there’s been some excellent posts observations and discusssions but there’s some who if it isn’t all happy happy happy don’t seem to be able to cope

 

I fail to understand your need after a  3-0 win to start making your original comment

Too often

I’m far from ‘all happy clappy’ and am not hesitant about criticising players and manager. 

My comment was meant to actually make people think a bit about whether their knee jerk ‘everything’s awful’ reaction to one defeat in 3 was a tad OTT on reflection.

Hey ho. 

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11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

It’s about looking a bit deeper and looking ahead 

I think there’s been some excellent posts observations and discusssions but there’s some who if it isn’t all happy happy happy don’t seem to be able to cope

 

I fail to understand your need after a  3-0 win to start making your original comment

Too often

But of course if we had lost 3-0 you would be regurgitating all the negatives, loving this result, shame you can't join in but also loving to see you squirm. 

Oh! and you missed an Edit for once..discusssions ?

 

It's getting better...  

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6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What on earth do you expect? This is a new squad and we all know that when several new signings arrive it can take several games for the real style of play to develop.

We are just four games in and it’s way too early to be making assessments until we are at least 10 - 12 games in.

 To me it’s a case so far so good.

Like I said, I expect the selections to be sensible and I expect us to have a style of play and a game plan.  Over the course of the season I expect us to improve a bit on the last one results wise.

We keep hearing about how scientific our recruitment is and how we're selecting players from databases to fit the style we already want to play so no, I don't think it's ok for us to not be recognisable from last time and it is concerning that the style doesn't look like arriving of it's own accord after some magical mythical gelling time.  

I'm not jumping to any conclusions yet but anybody happy with the season so far isn't paying proper attention.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What on earth do you expect? This is a new squad and we all know that when several new signings arrive it can take several games for the real style of play to develop.

We are just four games in and it’s way too early to be making assessments until we are at least 10 - 12 games in.

To me it’s a case so far so good.

 

Not really a new squad is it...

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6 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Which ones are we talking about - because I can think of two really all game?

One in the first half when ?Washington? picked it up left side of the box, cut in and the Maaenpaa saved.

One in the second half when Maaenpaa had the rush of blood, forward probably took an unneeded extra touch and 2 defenders got back well to cover.

I'm surprised how many people expect us to go away from home, completely dominate the game and not concede chances in a game of football?

The bottom line is a '0' in the goals conceded column and I think we deserved that, just.  

In the first half we backed off far too much not tackling, that changed in the 2nd half and resulted in the one gift of a chance that you mention.

In the first because of our backing off tactic QPR had 4 shots on goal from inside the area and 4 from the edge of the area, our first goal could not have come at a better time, it literally killed the game.

It was a much needed win but up until our goal we rode our luck.

 

 

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Got to enjoy the win but long way to go. Let’s be honest we will probably get beaten Saturday and then the knives will be out again.

First goal was important - luckily they were a shambles at the back. And remember it should have been 2-1 but for them missing an open goal. Weimann looks good and Kelly looks better and better with each game.

Maenpaa looked assured with crosses but made a horrible error that we got away with. I’m still not sold on Hunt, Webster or Watkins. And clearly Pisano isn’t a centre back or left back. 

The good news is that once Bailey Fammy and Baker come back it should improve but Korey will be a big miss. 

Hoping for at least 2 loan signings. 

 

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4 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said:

But of course if we had lost 3-0 you would be regurgitating all the negatives, loving this result, shame you can't join in but also loving to see you squirm. 

Oh! and you missed an Edit for once..discusssions ?

 

It's getting better...  

You are priceless our lil Swindon Fan

Squirm ?.

Ha ha ha ha

You don’t know or get me at all grumpy

Im genuinely sat he3 laughing at you coming on and having your usual drunken rant and slowly combusting 

:)

Check out your post history

A pitiful twisted troll

:laughcont:

 

 

Goodnight 

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13 minutes ago, Fjmcity said:

QPR ARE A CRAP TEAM SO WE ARE STILL CRAP RARGHHH

WEINMAN WILL NEVER REPLACE THE GOALS OF BOBBY REID, A GOD LIKE PLAYER WHO 12 MONTH AGO I WOULDNT OF CROSSED THE STREET TO PISS ON RARGHHH

HOW WILL WE EVER COMPETE IN THIS LEAGUE WHEN WE ONLY SCORE THREE PAST A TEAM WHEN WEST BROM MANAGED SEVEN RARGHHHHHH

The Caps. And Mispelling...

 

 

 

My poor ****ing eyes!

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16 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

We’ll see after 46 games. I’d put money on then being very close to ‘top top’ ! 

Our last eight games against the ‘top, top side’ as you call Middlesbrough? We’ve won won five, drawn one and lost two...they probably thought we were ‘top, top’ when we sat in second place at the end of 2017....just after we beat them...

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Just now, BS4 on Tour... said:

Our last eight games against the ‘top, top side’ as you call Middlesbrough? We’ve won won five, drawn one and lost two...

I’m well aware of our recent results against Boro. I’m referring to the here and now. Impressive squad assembled on big wages under a very good manager. They will be there or thereabouts without a shadow of doubt. 

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1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I’m well aware of our recent results against Boro. I’m referring to the here and now. Impressive squad assembled on big wages under a very good manager. They will be there or thereabouts without a shadow of doubt. 

They had a big squad on big wages before. We still had a fantastic record against them. They were there or thereabouts last season. Taking one of the play off spots that we royally ballsed up! 

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28 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Really?! Reading this forum in recent days you'd think we were relegated already, reaction to one loss - against a top, top side - has been frankly ridiculous.

I think more worried we wouldn't be staying up due to our own quality but the situations of others.

Of which QPR are a prime example.

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3 minutes ago, lenred said:

They had a big squad on big wages before. We still had a fantastic record against them. They were there or thereabouts last season. Taking one of the play off spots that we royally ballsed up! 

My point is that our record over the last few years against them means absolutely nothing in respect of the gulf - nay, chasm - of class between the respective playing squads. You’re talking about a team where pretty much every single first teamer walks into ours. A team who’s front two cost what we spend in 2 or 3 windows let alone on 2 or 3 players.

They are a very very strong side and have inflicted our only defeat of the season. 

I stand firmly behind my statement that the reaction to the opening 3 games has been ludicrously over the top. 

Am I saying we’re a great team? Absolutely not. I think we look every bit a mid table side. But as a mid table wage payer, with a mid table squad and a mid table manager that’s pretty much in line with my expectations!

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We were very poor first half, and that goal basically saved us.

After half time QPR looked panicked, and what was a tremendous move nailed them.  The third was the icing on the cake.

If we can play like that with a depleted team but somehow get a three goal win, then all is not lost.

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1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said:

My point is that our record over the last few years against them means absolutely nothing in respect of the gulf - nay, chasm - of class between the respective playing squads. You’re talking about a team where pretty much every single first teamer walks into ours. A team who’s front two cost what we spend in 2 or 3 windows let alone on 2 or 3 players.

They are a very very strong side and have inflicted our only defeat of the season. 

I stand firmly behind my statement that the reaction to the opening 3 games has been ludicrously over the top. 

My point is that it has always been thus. Boro have had far more better players than us for years now. Yet we competed. In fact we had a bloody good record against them. But it doesn’t suit the narrative to remember that. 

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9 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I’m well aware of our recent results against Boro. I’m referring to the here and now. Impressive squad assembled on big wages under a very good manager. They will be there or thereabouts without a shadow of doubt. 

“...a very good manager” .....are you sure you weren’t one of the many on here slagging off Pulis over the years?!

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1 minute ago, lenred said:

My point is that it has always been thus. Boro have had far more better players than us for years now. Yet we competed. In fact we had a bloody good record against them. But it doesn’t suit the narrative to remember that. 

The fact that it has bugger all to do with how well they may or may not do this season doesn’t fit the narrative either.

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2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

“...a very good manager” .....are you sure you weren’t one of the many on here slagging off Pulis over the years?!

I was 13 when he managed us so I’m a bit young for the hate that others have for him, I only have vague recollections of him managing us, I didn’t get my first season ticket til a couple of years later. 

He did a great job at Stoke and has made a flying start at Boro. I think he has all the nous required to swiftly get Boro back to where they think they belong. 

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Just now, lenred said:

My point is that it has always been thus. Boro have had far more better players than us for years now. Yet we competed. In fact we had a bloody good record against them. But it doesn’t suit the narrative to remember that. 

We competed but in the wrong areas until the last 10 mins and could easily have got back to 2-2 But for the width of a post/crossbar. Coaching team need to rev them up a bit more and shoe a bit more intent and aggression in the final third

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2 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said:

None of us know for sure. Plus going on one viewing isn’t enough to make a judgement. Granted going on how expensive a team is, isn’t a foolproof judgement either. 

Yep, but add in the fact that the vast majority of posters on here think Pulis is a crap manager makes me think that when some big up Boro as being a ‘top, top side’ they are totally disregarding their opinion of their manager...

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4 minutes ago, lenred said:

My point is that it has always been thus. Boro have had far more better players than us for years now. Yet we competed. In fact we had a bloody good record against them. But it doesn’t suit the narrative to remember that. 

I’m not disputing any of that. Simply saying that the reaction to losing one game this season, against one of the top few clubs in the league, was massively over the top, IMO. 

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1 minute ago, EmissionImpossible said:

The fact that it has bugger all to do with how well they may or may not do this season doesn’t fit the narrative either.

How does it have ‘bugger all’ to do with it? Think you need to re read what’s being said.   

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2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Yep, but add in the fact that the vast majority of posters on here think Pulis is a crap manager makes me think that when some big up Boro as being a ‘top, top side’ they are totally disregarding their opinion of their manager...

Most people who slag off Pulis, me included is not because he’s a shit manager but for many many other reasons, which I think you are probably aware of. His record shows he is a good manager.

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2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Yep, but add in the fact that the vast majority of posters on here think Pulis is a crap manager makes me think that when some big up Boro as being a ‘top, top side’ they are totally disregarding their opinion of their manager...

People may loathe him but anyone who thinks Pulis is a crap manager is deluding themselves! 

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1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I’m not disputing any of that. Simply saying that the reaction to losing one game this season, against one of the top few clubs in the league, was massively over the top, IMO. 

Fair enough. I don’t think personally the reaction (the sensible ones anyway) has been down to that one game, more the run we’ve been on since the start of 2018 as a whole. But we won tonight, a great 3 points whichever way you want to look at it, and let’s hope it kick starts a good run now. 

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1 minute ago, lenred said:

Fair enough. I don’t think personally the reaction (the sensible ones anyway) has been down to that one game, more the run we’ve been on since the start of 2018 as a whole. But we won tonight, a great 3 points whichever way you want to look at it, and let’s hope it kick starts a good run now. 

I definitley get that. But I think people need to get over it and judge this season on it’s own merits. If after 10-15 games we’re really struggling questions rightfully need to be asked but a bit premature to be all doom and gloom after 3 games.

Fingers crossed this gives us some confidence going into what will be a very tough game on Saturday. 

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43 minutes ago, cityexile said:

It’s odd that in some ways football wise I think that was our worst effort so far today. We seemed to change our style entirely and up to the first goal the game was tragic. If Fammy is out at all, we have to have a Plan B up front.

QPR created more chances than a clean sheet warrants, but the mood would have been toxic if we had lost. Buys us a bit of time, which we certainly need!

I agree, while being delighted that we registered a 3-0 away win, it was a shocking game of football. Both teams were poor and if QPR had anything about them they would have scored at least once and probably more. 

We lacked any style or composure, too often lofting a hopeful ball into the air rather than playing much football on the  ground. Suspect any neutral would likely have given up watching long before the final whistle!

A night when the result was far better than the performance.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

I agree, while being delighted that we registered a 3-0 away win, it was a shocking game of football. Both teams were poor and if QPR had anything about them they would have scored at least once and probably more. 

We lacked any style or composure, too often lofting a hopeful ball into the air rather than playing much football on the  ground. Suspect any neutral would likely have given up watching long before the final whistle!

A night when the result was far better than the performance.

 

 

It was Plan B - knock it into the wide channels instead of heavy possession percentage.

Ugly but ultimately it worked.

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1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

A night when the result was far better than the performance.

In case I've missed something these past 50 odd years the first question a fan asks is how did we get on, not how did we play?

We won.

We kept a clean sheet.

We had a few brighter performances, Kelly for the second game running.

We've still major problems but tonight, when it mattered, WeeLee reverted to tactics suited to the limited ability players at our disposal. Long may he continue to do so if it brings results.

Cardiff finished bottom of the Championship ratings on every single positive passing and possession stat last year. Didn't see their fans complaining too much about their performances though.

 

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when we were 2 nil up, should of brought on Eisa and Dasilva, give them a chance to show what they can do., but as per normal johnson dont make changes till last 10 minutes,, brings on Eisa  on 90th minute, could of rested  couple of  players,   can never  understand  johnson,  he needs to try these players out. i did not think we played that well. QPR were  really weak

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13 minutes ago, oggysouthwest said:

when we were 2 nil up, should of brought on Eisa and Dasilva, give them a chance to show what they can do., but as per normal johnson dont make changes till last 10 minutes,, brings on Eisa  on 90th minute, could of rested  couple of  players,   can never  understand  johnson,  he needs to try these players out. i did not think we played that well. QPR were  really weak

2-0 in a dangerous score line  and with a new and unfamiliar back line I’m sure LJ didn’t want to risk conceding. 

QPR were piss poor, as they were last season at AG under Holloway but you can only beat what’s in front of you.

Swansea will be a much tougher challenge on Saturday.

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