Undy English Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 In administration for a second time. Curious as to what the forum think of this demise, the rise of digital streaming and the death of physical purchases. Speaking personally, I still buy the odd DVD if something has been 'really good'. Always useful to have if your broadband goes down. That said, DVDs, now an outdated concept, have not stayed competitive - they are still a tenner a disc for new films. Is the answer not to make DVDs and CDs ridiculously cheap and, that way, compete with the likes of Netflix and Amazon? Example: new Jurassic World film. DVD is £10. It's not even 720p picture quality. That £10 could buy you a month's Netflix subscription where you have access to thousands of films at the touch of a button in 1080p/HD quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, Undy English said: In administration for a second time. Curious as to what the forum think of this demise, the rise of digital streaming and the death of physical purchases. Speaking personally, I still buy the odd DVD if something has been 'really good'. Always useful to have if your broadband goes down. That said, DVDs, now an outdated concept, have not stayed competitive - they are still a tenner a disc for new films. Is the answer not to make DVDs and CDs ridiculously cheap and, that way, compete with the likes of Netflix and Amazon? Example: new Jurassic World film. DVD is £10. It's not even 720p picture quality. That £10 could buy you a month's Netflix subscription where you have access to thousands of films at the touch of a button in 1080p/HD quality. Just do what millions are doing and just download a few apps and get yourself a vpn and watch Netflix shows and the like for nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Sad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 The only time I ever use HMV is when I’ve left Christmas/birthdays to the absolute last minute and rush there desperately trying to find a CD or DVD that’ll get me out of trouble. So yeah I use them quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 53 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: Why do you need a vpn? I was sent a few letters years ago when I didn’t use one as were a lot of my friends so thought what’s the point risking it again,don’t pay for a vpn either because it’s just a ripoff when their is a good free unlimited one out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ziderheadarmy said: Why do you need a vpn? Netflix and others like it put different shows/movies on in different countries at different times. Netflix UK won't get american tv shows often for a while after, they've just had Avengers Infinity War put on but will be a while before the UK version gets that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, hodge said: Netflix and others like it put different shows/movies on in different countries at different times. Netflix UK won't get american tv shows often for a while after, they've just had Avengers Infinity War put on but will be a while before the UK version gets that. Just get cinema apk and save your money on Netflix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: Just get cinema apk and save your money on Netflix It's only a tenner a month for four accounts, it's hardly expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, screech said: It's only a tenner a month for four accounts, it's hardly expensive. No it’s not but when you don’t have to pay for it you are saving yourself £120 over the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: No it’s not but when you don’t have to pay for it you are saving yourself £120 over the year why would you not pay for something that someone has spent hundreds of thousands or millions to produce? if everyone got it for free you would have nothing to watch as there would be no money to make the programs or films. You might as well be stealing money from neighbours or goods from a shop Never understood this mentality, if someone stole your TV, how happy would you be? PS any wonder thy HMV is going out of business when people are stealing movies and music easilly rather than purchasing it, not to mention music producers and artists. yes they earn millions ,but why does anyone think they have the right to steal from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, TRL said: why would you not pay for something that someone has spent hundreds of thousands or millions to produce? if everyone got it for free you would have nothing to watch as there would be no money to make the programs or films. You might as well be stealing money from neighbours or goods from a shop Never understood this mentality, if someone stole your TV, how happy would you be? PS any wonder thy HMV is going out of business when people are stealing movies and music easilly rather than purchasing it, not to mention music producers and artists. yes they earn millions ,but why does anyone think they have the right to steal from them? So you are seriously comparing it to me robbing my next door neighbours,I’m also stealing from the multi billion premier league,bet that doesn’t get you so upset,behave yourself lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: So you are seriously comparing it to me robbing my next door neighbours,I’m also stealing from the multi billion premier league,bet that doesn’t get you so upset,behave yourself lad nope its stealing. if you have a mother or sister or brother and I don't know them, i can happily steal from them, that's what you are saying, because stealing say music from an ud coming artist who doesn't have a pot to piss in through a sharing web site, is okay judging by your comments You son,are a thief if this is what you do ,it matters not who from, you are a dirty thief. no more no less. you try and wrap it up to appease yourself. But don;t moan and groan when a loved one has their property lifted from them. I bet you are the type who has a huge opinion on all the boxing you watch, but do not pay to watch, doing those you support out of the money they are supposed to earn by actually boxing, while you watch them for free swigging beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, TRL said: nope its stealing. if you have a mother or sister or brother and I don't know them, i can happily steal from them, that's what you are saying, because stealing say music from an ud coming artist who doesn't have a pot to piss in through a sharing web site, is okay judging by your comments You son,are a thief if this is what you do ,it matters not who from, you are a dirty thief. no more no less. you try and wrap it up to appease yourself. But don;t moan and groan when a loved one has their property lifted from them. I bet you are the type who has a huge opinion on all the boxing you watch, but do not pay to watch, doing those you support out of the money they are supposed to earn by actually boxing, while you watch them for free swigging beer. Tell you what I’ve heard some crap on here but that post takes the biscuit.A thief for a start steals the product and puts it online for people like me to watch,so I’m not the thief or some bloke in a boozer who is buying off some smackhead who as you say robbed mine or your family of their hard earned goods,as for the boxing point yes I am and if AJ when he earns his 50 million next fight wants to know why it wasn’t 50 million and 20 pounds then he can read this and know why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Tell you what I’ve heard some crap on here but that post takes the biscuit.A thief for a start steals the product and puts it online for people like me to watch,so I’m not the thief or some bloke in a boozer who is buying off some smackhead who as you say robbed mine or your family of their hard earned goods,as for the boxing point yes I am and if AJ when he earns his 50 million next fight wants to know why it wasn’t 50 million and 20 pounds then he can read this and know why yep say whatever you want to make yourself feel better about stealing. Its not necessarily all about the multi million pound earners, but the up and coming boxers, singers actors artists who are getting portion of the profits from what ever organisation you are stealing from that pay them. It doesn't matter if its 1p or 200 quid 2000 quid or 2 million quid, its still stealing. it doesn't matter it if it is from a a 5 year old's pocket or a multi million pound organisation, it is stealing. if you wouldn't want it done to you, why, and how the hell could you possibly think it i okay to do it from anyone? PS I presume you do not make or supply any product ,if you do it would make you opinion even more bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 HMV have been overpriced for years, people may say ‘sad times’ but other than people being made unemployed, I’m glad it’s going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: HMV have been overpriced for years, people may say ‘sad times’ but other than people being made unemployed, I’m glad it’s going. they have not nailed by a different format truth be told,they should have branched out into streaming rather than selling the media.. or cut down the amount of shops,enhanced their online presence in streaming of movies and music and specialised in vinyl in their high street shops Truth be told us consumers are killing all these stores, and there will be a time when we can no longer easily go and try something at a local store then buy cheaper online. we are unknowingly going to wreck our own purchasing strategy. when the high street shops go,the online shops prices will go up, products will be sourced from abroad and consumer rights will slowly be dissolved as the product will not be sourced in this highly regulated country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, TRL said: yep say whatever you want to make yourself feel better about stealing. Its not necessarily all about the multi million pound earners, but the up and coming boxers, singers actors artists who are getting portion of the profits from what ever organisation you are stealing from that pay them. It doesn't matter if its 1p or 200 quid 2000 quid or 2 million quid, its still stealing. it doesn't matter it if it is from a a 5 year old's pocket or a multi million pound organisation, it is stealing. if you wouldn't want it done to you, why, and how the hell could you possibly think it i okay to do it from anyone? PS I presume you do not make or supply any product ,if you do it would make you opinion even more bizarre. To answer your last question honestly I don’t I’m not clever enough to do all that. You seem to think this is a new thing trust me it’s not,it started in the 90s and if you think film stars,footballers or boxers are losing revenue since then I suggest you think again because their earnings will tell you different,I’m not short of money and neither are you but in these days when you have people that are really struggling should they be forced to pay a ten bob a month to watch something that is free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: To answer your last question honestly I don’t I’m not clever enough to do all that. You seem to think this is a new thing trust me it’s not,it started in the 90s and if you think film stars,footballers or boxers are losing revenue since then I suggest you think again because their earnings will tell you different,I’m not short of money and neither are you but in these days when you have people that are really struggling should they be forced to pay a ten bob a month to watch something that is free it certainly is not a new thing. but personally, if I can't afford something then I don't watch it or don't buy it. or if i am lucky i can go around to a mates house who can afford it and provide some food or drink to the host or go to the pub and watch it and buy a couple of pints for the duration of the match. but that is me. A word of warning,if you are using a free VPN, then don't be surprised if your details are getting logged, it is in this instance that you definitely want to pay for a good VPN provider that is based in a country that is not willing to supply the logged data to an interested parties... You may want to take a look at that rather than using a free one if you are using it for streaming or illegal downloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, TRL said: they have not nailed by a different format truth be told,they should have branched out into streaming rather than selling the media.. or cut down the amount of shops,enhanced their online presence in streaming of movies and music and specialised in vinyl in their high street shops Truth be told us consumers are killing all these stores, and there will be a time when we can no longer easily go and try something at a local store then buy cheaper online. we are unknowingly going to wreck our own purchasing strategy. when the high street shops go,the online shops prices will go up, products will be sourced from abroad and consumer rights will slowly be dissolved as the product will not be sourced in this highly regulated country. I agree with a lot of what you say but it’s not us consumers who are killing stores, it’s marketing and themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, TRL said: it certainly is not a new thing. but personally, if I can't afford something then I don't watch it or don't buy it. or if i am lucky i can go around to a mates house who can afford it and provide some food or drink to the host or go to the pub and watch it and buy a couple of pints for the duration of the match. but that is me. A word of warning,if you are using a free VPN, then don't be surprised if your details are getting logged, it is in this instance that you definitely want to pay for a good VPN provider that is based in a country that is not willing to supply the logged data to an interested parties... You may want to take a look at that rather than using a free one if you are using it for streaming or illegal downloading. Christ we are going to have to agree with certain free VPN’s,just do a dns leak test and that will tell you if they are any cop and then if they are check the small print about logs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Proton vpn based in Switzerland is certainly a safe country as @TRL said tbf,free option only gives you 3 servers but they keep no logs and depending on your own internet speed is well fast enough to stream whatever you want,and before @TRL asks I’m not involved with that either just giving advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Proton vpn based in Switzerland is certainly a safe country as @TRL said tbf,free option only gives you 3 servers but they keep no logs and depending on your own internet speed is well fast enough to stream whatever you want,and before @TRL asks I’m not involved with that either just giving advice no problem with you giving advice on VPNs highly recommend anyone use them for any internet traffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: Christ this escalated quick :laugh:. The reasons concerts are so expensive these days is it’s the only way a recording artist / band can make any money as the majority of people download / rip / copy music. Same goes for films hence why Cinemas are a rip off. Football and Boxing don’t help themselves either. For music artists I think you can blame stuff like Spotify and YouTube rather than “illegal“ stuff to be honest,and here’s a thought how about making going to the movies cheap and try to combat “stealing”.On a lighter note I could watch city sat at home on tv tomorrow but I’m still going down there tomorrow to watch a few steal a living and the prices still go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: Any recommendations on VPN’s and how do you use them via say Kodi? What do you have kodi on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: See I have the choice as follows - Rush about, travel to the ground, pre match pints, food, ticket, get home etc so probably gone for 8 hours, spend circa £80 easy or I can do other things I enjoy and then at 2:55pm stick the game on and watch at home. When the football is as crap as it’s been at home this season making the effort and spending the money at this time of year v watching at home isn’t a big decision sadly at present. MXQ box To true sadly,regarding VPN’s on a Android box it’s easy go to play store and just download if you got a account(as above don’t download any ropey crap)if you haven’t got a account then just type in aptoide tv on google or any other search engine and follow the instructions and once you have the vpn downloaded(I suggest protonvpn if you don’t want to fork out cash)then just connect and then go to kodi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 9 hours ago, ziderheadarmy said: Christ this escalated quick :laugh:. Would you steal a car? No, but I’d damn well download one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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