Desso Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Waste of time passing to him. Might as well give it the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Desso said: Waste of time passing to him. Might as well give it the opposition. Complete crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 We need to buy a finisher in the summer thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonboy Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: Complete crap. The post or Fammy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 The post. 1 minute ago, Alan Dicks said: We need to buy a finisher in the summer thats for sure We do - someone to partner him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Desso said: Waste of time passing to him. Might as well give it the opposition. Hahaha, the state of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 @Desso you wind up merchant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Woeful, however, it is out of our hands and looking like the season is over whatever the final result. Well LJ, you were right, Ipswich was the most important point of the season as it looks like it has cost us a play off spot. One up top against the bottom of the league at home was a barmy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Here we go . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Really really should have put the header in, seemed harder to miss. Love his effort and commitment, struggling with the ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 4yrds out then 3rds out and not for the 1st time his touch and finishing is abysmal. Serious money needs to be spent in the summer just to compete for a top 6 next year or we'll be miles off. Progression Yes. Missed chances x 2 Massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Said months ago that Diédhiou wasn’t good enough and I stand by that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lez said: Sorry but it's a mix of things. Wigan last minute goal, derby luck against QPR and us......unable to break teams down at home....Ipswich reading Birmingham etc Im Mr Fickle, but what's the point of crying over spilt milk? I'm at the game today, and our support is terrific, Palmer has been great and we can win this game and go into next season on a real high. #WatchOutForTheRobinsIn2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffleflap Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 He just isn't good enough. He battles and shows willing but got a head like a 50 pence piece. Never know where that ball will end up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lez said: Sorry but it's a mix of things. Wigan last minute goal, derby luck against QPR and us......unable to break teams down at home....Ipswich reading Birmingham etc I understand that Lez. It’s just those words after that game that grate for me. I remember at the time wondering wtf he was going on about. Over cautious tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 He's scored roughly 1 in 3 in the league for us over the past two seasons. I think it's 26 in 73 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 It’s over 46 games, we had some breaks, some great wins and some disappointments. We are really lucky playing in a League where you can take nothing for granted and it’s competitive. I think it’s been a great season, we have really over-achieved. All too easy to dwell on the negatives and find scapegoats, but it’s been a fantastic team effort for a side with no real super-stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Waffleflap said: He just isn't good enough. He battles and shows willing but got a head like a 50 pence piece. Never know where that ball will end up He most certainly isn't..... he's scored 13 this year and bet he's missed 13 or more in the 6yrd box but the two today are truly shocking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 So many forgotten how many winning goals he scored for us. Really short memories. Got an Ok goals record too overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Has anyone kept track of how many goals he's prevented at the other end with his defensive efforts? Go and watch Weimann's hattrick again. Check who assists or plays a key role in the build up to each one. Sell Taylor, keep Fam, and bring in a striker to support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 He's our 5million main striker so you'd exspect a return but certainly is not good enough to be our main striker next year and he's proved that today 2 sitters now 1nil down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: Complete crap. Pleased you agree. He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Desso said: Pleased you agree. He is. You know I don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, Ashtonboy said: The post or Fammy? Fammy, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 45 minutes ago, Clevedon Red said: @Desso you wind up merchant. It's Fammy who wants winding up. I think theyve lost the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: So many forgotten how many winning goals he scored for us. Really short memories. Got an Ok goals record too overall. Are you related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I've said before Fammy is a Terry Bush when we desperately need a John Atyeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 To be in those play offs next year we now no we need 74+ points so at a guess will need to spend massively in the summer on key positions as we should of done previously but haven't. This summer is pivotal to show our ambition and bring in the correct players to see us through and ditch the dead wood / fringe players we seem to be accumulating at a rapid pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Allwaysred said: To be in those play offs next year we now no we need 74+ points so at a guess will need to spend massively in the summer on key positions as we should of done previously but haven't. This summer is pivotal to show our ambition and bring in the correct players to see us through and ditch the dead wood / fringe players we seem to be accumulating at a rapid pace. Any names? Watkins and eisa is all I can think of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: He's scored roughly 1 in 3 in the league for us over the past two seasons. I think it's 26 in 73 games. And that's a £5.3m striker, Yeh right, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lympsham Red Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 In fairness, both sides of the argument here are somewhat correct - yes, Fammy can be a donkey, but yes, he does also score the majority of our goals. Hence we need to keep him and buy someone quality to complement him. Ying and yang and all that. Play it right, and we'll have the most formidable strike partnership in the league next season. You heard it here first. Big up the Senegalese Emile Heskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: And that's a £5.3m striker, Yeh right, Whatever we may think about his ability we can't blame him for his valuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I love Famara; he stole a place in my heart with his passion for City in his first season and I will never forget his performance in the 4-1 win over Derby. But oh my days, I will die without knowing how he missed that header today. No doubt, he will feel the same way. He has to be aided by another forward of superior finishing power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: Whatever we may think about his ability we can't blame him for his valuation. Then who rated him at that value, and we must have agreed to it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Alongside a goalscoring striker he'd be class. He's not the 20 goal a striker we've been used to these past few years Just now, Redmycolour said: Then who rated him at that value, and we must have agreed to it, If we sold him now he'd be sold for more than he was bought for. Therefore it's a good signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Alongside a goalscoring striker he'd be class. He's not the 20 goal a striker we've been used to these past few years If we sold him now he'd be sold for more than he was bought for. Therefore it's a good signing A present form, that is rubbish, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Famara's place in the side will be dependent on what formation Johnson wants to play next season. If we stick with this 4-2-3-1/4-1-4-1 then we should look to sell FD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Redmycolour said: Then who rated him at that value, and we must have agreed to it, Well presumably the selling club, buying club and agent have to come to an agreement. But it's not the player who determines their value. Therefore it's not a fair critism to level at him. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Redmycolour said: A present form, that is rubbish, In the inflated market of today it really isn't. It's no wonder other fans regularly state how good he is. Yes he's not a 20 goal a season striker but the work he does for the team is pivotal. We'd be looking at 7-8 million for him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 He is good enough but not as the only striker, opposition teams hate playing against him especially at home (when we're away). If I was going to look at strikers that are not good enough I would start with the ones that are behind him and not even challenging him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I've not always been Fammy's biggest fan, only because i dont like lump it up football, and this maybe is going to sound odd as we scored without him today...but i thought when we went off we looked less like scoring as we had nothing to aim at. Also he saved us a few times defensively today and this season. I think it all depends on what style we want. I like two strikers working together who form an understanding, a partnership. We dont have that with Fammy. I dont think we are bringing out the best in other players, eg Wiemann either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Don’t understand the logic of people saying we should sell a striker who has had a double figure tally the last two seasons, surely buy another capable striker to the squad to increase the goals all around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, marcofisher said: Don’t understand the logic of people saying we should sell a striker who has had a double figure tally the last two seasons, surely buy another capable striker to the squad to increase the goals all around? Exactly. And a striker who has won us a lot of points with winning goals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 He couldn't trap a bag of cement. Can't read the flight of a ball either... But we ask that of him too much. We don't play to his strengths. Not bad if running at goal with the ball at his feet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I don't think we play to his strengths. He's really not a back to goal target man. He looks better when he drifts into the channels or wide and is running at goal. He needs someone along side him. We can't go another season with him leading the line on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 For a 6ft 2/3 inch bloke who must weigh 16 plus stone he is so lightweight its unbelievable. I couldnt give a shit if he misses chances, just that he does not and is not of doing the job he is in the team to do...HOLD THE ******* BALL UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dosser Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 he reminds me of a cross between wayne Allison and dele adabola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Hang on.. Isnt Fammy basically a much much much better Jon Stead? Similar facets one's revered the other 'loathed' Weird. Fwiw I love the guy incredibly difficult to play against, does lots of work, clearly not many notice and scores a fair few too. I'm not sure what people want more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Gazred said: I don't think we play to his strengths. He's really not a back to goal target man. He looks better when he drifts into the channels or wide and is running at goal. He needs someone along side him. We can't go another season with him leading the line on his own. Exactly my thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: 16 plus stone Not in a million years is Fam 16 stone. Maybe 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 He’s a good club in the bag but not sure he’s the answer long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenaldo Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Not in a million years is Fam 16 stone. Maybe 14. Nah I reckon more than 14 tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Famara is 12.5 stone. They all look bigger on the pitch for some reason. They are all built like long distance runners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Not in a million years is Fam 16 stone. Maybe 14. 27 minutes ago, joenaldo said: Nah I reckon more than 14 tbf 6 minutes ago, spudski said: Famara is 12.5 stone. They all look bigger on the pitch for some reason. They are all built like long distance runners. Maybe I am just a fat **** then but still the point stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 If we want to get the best out of him, we need to play differently. We don’t play to his strengths. It’s a tough one though, stick or twist. If Johnson genuinely wants to play a big guy up top on his own, recruit one who can play that role. Personally I don’t think we need a big guy up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: If we want to get the best out of him, we need to play differently. We don’t play to his strengths. It’s a tough one though, stick or twist. If Johnson genuinely wants to play a big guy up top on his own, recruit one who can play that role. Personally I don’t think we need a big guy up top. What do you think his strengths are Dave? I actually think he'd make a decent CB. I'd also prefer a more mobile 'footballer' up front. Famara on the high line lacks movement. It slows our game down and allows teams to organise defensively. Hence how often our midfield and defence have to check and turn back, as there is often no clean pass on. Two speedy forwards, who can read a game with plenty of movement would be my preferred way of playing. Plus an upgrade on Pack. Or someone of equal quality who can give him competition. The ball needs to be played so much quicker from midfield to moving forwards through the lines. As it is...it stops in the last third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, RalphMilnesLeftFoot said: Hang on.. Isnt Fammy basically a much much much better Jon Stead? Similar facets one's revered the other 'loathed' Weird. Fwiw I love the guy incredibly difficult to play against, does lots of work, clearly not many notice and scores a fair few too. I'm not sure what people want more than that. Simple really. If we want to get promoted we can’t have him leading our attack. People get confused between effort and ability. Every time a player pulls our shirt on I expect 100% effort, that’s a given. Ability wise he’s not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Simple really. If we want to get promoted we can’t have him leading our attack. People get confused between effort and ability. Every time a player pulls our shirt on I expect 100% effort, that’s a given. Ability wise he’s not good enough. He has the ability though. Many single out mistakes as being the mark of him, but ignore everything else. He's an utter nightmare for defenders because you dont know what he's going to do and has a strong all around game. Given game times bans and injury happy to have him think crouch, heskey et al. It's why I mentioned Stead When we got in to play offs Byfield was highest scorer with 8 or summat daft Football is a team game, weve progressed and are better with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, spudski said: What do you think his strengths are Dave? I actually think he'd make a decent CB. I'd also prefer a more mobile 'footballer' up front. Famara on the high line lacks movement. It slows our game down and allows teams to organise defensively. Hence how often our midfield and defence have to check and turn back, as there is often no clean pass on. Two speedy forwards, who can read a game with plenty of movement would be my preferred way of playing. Plus an upgrade on Pack. Or someone of equal quality who can give him competition. The ball needs to be played so much quicker from midfield to moving forwards through the lines. As it is...it stops in the last third. Spud....exactly what I would do, if I could choose the way we play, which would probably mean moving Fam on. Pack, Same opinion too. We rarely turn our opponents back four around. We rarely spring a ball into the channel on transition. Look at how many times Pukki gets beyond their CBs, early in transition, and they all squeeze up quickly behind, making it hard to get out. Reid did that, Kodjia did that (as he got used to the Champ). We don’t have the technical players to play like Norwich....they’ve proved you can recruit them though, and cheaply. I want to play at a much higher tempo than we do currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 He’s not good enough to get us promoted. His first touch is awful and he cannot hold a ball up. He doesn’t put himself about enough. I heard that from an ex City forward who did get us up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Spud....exactly what I would do, if I could choose the way we play, which would probably mean moving Fam on. Pack, Same opinion too. We rarely turn our opponents back four around. We rarely spring a ball into the channel on transition. Look at how many times Pukki gets beyond their CBs, early in transition, and they all squeeze up quickly behind, making it hard to get out. Reid did that, Kodjia did that (as he got used to the Champ). We don’t have the technical players to play like Norwich....they’ve proved you can recruit them though, and cheaply. I want to play at a much higher tempo than we do currently. That's exactly my thoughts as well Dave. I think the signing of Famara has stiffled how we play offensively and certain players have had to adapt differently because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I don’t doubt or question his heart or effort and respect the role he had been asked to play. That said he is still a striker and strikers should score goals. Sadly his finishing is woeful and I would look for alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dosser Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 he will get better and I believe he will have a 20 goal plus next season keep the faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Technique was dreadful on that miss today. He sees there is nothing in front of him, why wouldn't you head it downwards? Schoolboy stuff. That said, i really like the guy, the character, and for all his flaws i'm not in the Fam's not up to it camp. (well, if we can find better for our budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 He's fantastic at some things and woeful at others. Him Semenyo Weimann and a new good striker will be a sound foursome though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: Spud....exactly what I would do, if I could choose the way we play, which would probably mean moving Fam on. Pack, Same opinion too. We rarely turn our opponents back four around. We rarely spring a ball into the channel on transition. Look at how many times Pukki gets beyond their CBs, early in transition, and they all squeeze up quickly behind, making it hard to get out. Reid did that, Kodjia did that (as he got used to the Champ). We don’t have the technical players to play like Norwich....they’ve proved you can recruit them though, and cheaply. I want to play at a much higher tempo than we do currently. I would say we do have the technical players such as Paterson, Weimann, and hopefully Palmer. But it all falls down when there is little movement or anticipation up front. Imo we need a striker with similar attributes to those three, good movement and anticipation. If Reid were still here with Weimann, Paterson, and Palmer, we'd be very much like Norwich imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 5 hours ago, 054123 said: I don’t doubt or question his heart or effort and respect the role he had been asked to play. That said he is still a striker and strikers should score goals. Sadly his finishing is woeful and I would look for alternatives. Funny thing is, the goal and how he took it at Millwall and some of his goals earlier in the season- think the Blackburn and West Brom games in September- were harder and further out than the chances he missed today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessels Chick Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I wonder what Birmingham fans were saying about their strikers last season .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Funny thing is, the goal and how he took it at Millwall and some of his goals earlier in the season- think the Blackburn and West Brom games in September- were harder and further out than the chances he missed today! The header against Reading from 6 yards out straight at the keeper. If he is our only striker then it is imperative he score more goals. There is a tendency in modern football to overthink the whole thing. Sometimes it’s quite straightforward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Fammy is really good at defending, works his socks off. But if we really have promotion aspirations we should be bringing him off the bench. He's no Kodjia for sure. That's the kind of striker we need upfront. Quick, strong, and gives defenders more to think about. I like fam but his finish and first touch are, at times, very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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