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2 minutes ago, phantom said:

Sadly showing why we're rock bottom 

At least they're still 'giving it a go' I suppose. I do feel sorry for them, and I don't for one minute think they'll find it quite as easy next season back in the Championship as they did before. So well done all involved in 'investing' in our women's team. I don't really think it will be any different if the men's team ever get promoted.

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3 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

At least they're still 'giving it a go' I suppose. I do feel sorry for them, and I don't for one minute think they'll find it quite as easy next season back in the Championship as they did before. So well done all involved in 'investing' in our women's team. I don't really think it will be any different if the men's team ever get promoted.

They've given it a go all season, so admirable, but don't have the quality sadly. I live in hope they'll snatch an equaliser in this game.

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3 minutes ago, Eco said:

They've given it a go all season, so admirable, but don't have the quality sadly. I live in hope they'll snatch an equaliser in this game.

I know I'm a not a big spender, but I just put 22p on them at 7-1 for a draw.

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Oh dear! 4-2 down.
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8 minutes ago, phantom said:

Awful display, nowhere near good enough 

Not impressed with Smith sat on the bench as the last subs were being made 

She looks defeated and sending the completely wrong message to the team 

Why Lauren thinks Megan Connolly is a midfielder I have no idea. Depressing defeat, could have been worse. Hope we can pull out a result v Brighton 🤞

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5 minutes ago, Eco said:

Why Lauren thinks Megan Connolly is a midfielder I have no idea. Depressing defeat, could have been worse. Hope we can pull out a result v Brighton 🤞

Not a chance. The squad is poor and will struggle next season in the championship 

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2 hours ago, shahanshahan said:

Aspin & Struck return to starting XI. Evans & Syme dropped to bench

Bentley returns to matchday squad but only makes the bench. Harrison out with injury & Stratigakis out with illness

KO 3pm, live on FA Player 

 

 

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Any idea why we had two keepers (Bentley and Clark) on the bench?!

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22 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Does the P&R run for home matches? My daughter wants to go to the Spurs game. 

It seems to vary by game (and presumably expected attendance) is the simple answer.

Normally appears on the club website a couple of days before the game but maybe Jerry could answer in advance (I'd suggest Twitter/X). 

22 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Does the P&R run for home matches? My daughter wants to go to the Spurs game. 

It seems to vary by game (and presumably expected attendance) is the simple answer.

Normally appears on the club website a couple of days before the game but maybe Jerry could answer in advance (I'd suggest Twitter/X). 

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12 minutes ago, Full nelson said:

Not a chance. The squad is poor and will struggle next season in the championship 

Probably our best chance of a win is Brighton, they're almost as bad defensively as us. It would be nice to witness a W at home as can't see that happening in the other home games, maybe Everton. Hope today's result hasn't knocked the stuffing out of the squad.

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On 15/02/2024 at 19:08, shahanshahan said:

City Women Fans Forum finally announced. Lauren Smith & Gavin Marshall will be taking questions from supporters.
Monday 4th March, 6:30pm, in the Supporters Club & Trust Bar.

Sadly we can already write the script for this without having to go.

Season not gone as we had hoped

Plenty left to fight for.

Believe the squad is good enough

Right behind the team

We've invested in the squad and made some key signings

The support has been fantastic.

We'll fight until we have nothing left to fight for

If we do go down we are in a better place than last time we were in the championship

Keeping hold of our best players will be important but if big offers come in

We can't compete on the same level in terms of finance with the bigger clubs

If we go back down to the championship the drop in gates will mean home games will have to return to the HPC

 

You can tick these off as they go through them.

 

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1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said:

It seems to vary by game (and presumably expected attendance) is the simple answer.

Normally appears on the club website a couple of days before the game but maybe Jerry could answer in advance (I'd suggest Twitter/X). 

It seems to vary by game (and presumably expected attendance) is the simple answer.

Normally appears on the club website a couple of days before the game but maybe Jerry could answer in advance (I'd suggest Twitter/X). 

Cheers. I’ll play it by ear. 

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That might be a question that will be cause the club's hand to be forced by economic constraints. Then again, it will be interesting to see the club's management of season ticket renewal: will they want to see how many will return in the case of relegation and wait on the demand?

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58 minutes ago, Nugget said:

Do you think there would be enough demand for games at the stadium to stay if they went down? Or is it just financially unviable to even open for the £'s in return etc. 

They will probably go back to playing at the HPC, playing some games at the Gate was necessary when they got promotion. If the crowds are still decent they may well carry on at the Gate.

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Will be an interesting decision, potentially the HPC could be too small and AG8 too big and not cost affective 

Like other WSL currently do, maybe a move to a local non league ground is the most sensible? 

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6 minutes ago, phantom said:

Will be an interesting decision, potentially the HPC could be too small and AG8 too big and not cost affective 

Like other WSL currently do, maybe a move to a local non league ground is the most sensible? 

The hard one is phantom, they can’t try to plug that we are all one big club if you then force them to play elsewhere. 
 

There’s many which include myself, and do watch the women’s games from time to time with my kids, that even though they are playing in a city kit, it isn’t city to me. 
 

I wish them all the luck but if they went down for example, it wouldn’t concern me at all where With the men’s it’s a different kettle of fish.

 

 

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5 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Any idea why we had two keepers (Bentley and Clark) on the bench?!

Bentley is coming back from a long injury, and hasn't played a game since the season opener. I think Clark is fit but Yanez seems to be preferred to start at the moment

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On 19/02/2024 at 12:12, shahanshahan said:

May be an injury replacement, but the top goalscorer for the team this season finally gets a call up to the Denmark squad

 

We'd already be down without Amalie's goals this season. Her goals per shots ratio must be excellent.

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On 18/02/2024 at 20:07, phantom said:

Will be an interesting decision, potentially the HPC could be too small and AG8 too big and not cost affective 

Like other WSL currently do, maybe a move to a local non league ground is the most sensible? 

Clevedon?

Train option available at Yate or WSM ?

Attendances seem to be tailing off.

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1 hour ago, Natchfever said:

Clevedon?

Train option available at Yate or WSM ?

Attendances seem to be tailing off.

Attendances are not tailing off. Have been pretty impressive for the WSL given our poor form. Women's football is growing. Will probably get relegated,  but we have a choice. Stay in the g.ame (play at Ashton Gate) or retreat into mediocrity by playing at the HPC or a local non league ground. Bath would be a pretty poor option and we haven't got any decent non league grounds in the area.

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23 minutes ago, miser said:

Attendances are not tailing off. Have been pretty impressive for the WSL given our poor form. Women's football is growing. Will probably get relegated,  but we have a choice. Stay in the g.ame (play at Ashton Gate) or retreat into mediocrity by playing at the HPC or a local non league ground. Bath would be a pretty poor option and we haven't got any decent non league grounds in the area.

I suspect there will be a strong lobby to stay at AG.

Respect your views but attendances seem way down on the early season games.

Club doesnt appear committed financially imo which seems at odds with the pr.

 

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22 minutes ago, Natchfever said:

I suspect there will be a strong lobby to stay at AG.

Respect your views but attendances seem way down on the early season games.

Club doesnt appear committed financially imo which seems at odds with the pr.

 

Attendances vary according to Lionesses appeal. Last match 6k compared favourably with Leicester  & Villa 4k earlier in season. 

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14 hours ago, miser said:

Bath would be a pretty poor option and we haven't got any decent non league grounds in the area.

That's a nonsense statement, Bath and Weston would be more than suitable 

Weston was good enough for the U21s not that long ago

13 hours ago, miser said:

Attendances vary according to Lionesses appeal. Last match 6k compared favourably with Leicester  & Villa 4k earlier in season. 

There is the problem, the crowds are visibly lower than at the start of the season

There was the names of "Man Utd" - "Arsenal" etc that appealed to the armchair fan then we had the likes of Mary Earps, who lets be honest single handedly put a few thousand on the gate when she was in town

We will lose all that with relegation and will go back to the real hardcore support that the club have

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29 minutes ago, phantom said:

That's a nonsense statement, Bath and Weston would be more than suitable 

Weston was good enough for the U21s not that long ago

There is the problem, the crowds are visibly lower than at the start of the season

There was the names of "Man Utd" - "Arsenal" etc that appealed to the armchair fan then we had the likes of Mary Earps, who lets be honest single handedly put a few thousand on the gate when she was in town

We will lose all that with relegation and will go back to the real hardcore support that the club have

Not a nonsense statement. I wrote it in the context of attracting crowds. Women's football is primarily family focused. Twerton is poor spectator wise with limited parking. Weston was used for U21s watched by a handful of supporters. Retention of Ashton Gate would give us a chance of retaining some of the WSL support. Bath and Weston would not in my view.

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1 hour ago, miser said:

Not a nonsense statement. I wrote it in the context of attracting crowds. Women's football is primarily family focused. Twerton is poor spectator wise with limited parking. Weston was used for U21s watched by a handful of supporters. Retention of Ashton Gate would give us a chance of retaining some of the WSL support. Bath and Weston would not in my view.

Villa seem ok with the Bescot I think and I believe many other clubs avoid using the main stadium.

Probably a good financial and possibly surface resting reason for that.

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11 minutes ago, Natchfever said:

Villa seem ok with the Bescot I think and I believe many other clubs avoid using the main stadium.

Probably a good financial and possibly surface resting reason for that.

I don't know if clubs choose to "avoid" or not. With the exception of West Ham, all WSL clubs have had at least one game in the main stadium. Arsenal have made an effort to have more games at the Emirates, same for Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Of course, clubs have to consider costs, staffing etc when playing at stadiums

Quite a few clubs in the Championship also play in their main stadium too (Birmingham, Southampton, Sheffield United) & others have had some games in their main stadium (Blackburn, Crystal Palace, Watford, to name a few).

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1 hour ago, miser said:

Not a nonsense statement. I wrote it in the context of attracting crowds. Women's football is primarily family focused. Twerton is poor spectator wise with limited parking. Weston was used for U21s watched by a handful of supporters. Retention of Ashton Gate would give us a chance of retaining some of the WSL support. Bath and Weston would not in my view.

How would Bath and Weston not attract crowds?

Using AG8 will not only be financial suicide, but why would anyone want to be playing in a 27k capacity stadium to a few hundred people?

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Today the FSA are launching a survey which will document the attitudes and experiences of fans of women’s football across a wide range of issues throughout the women’s game.

You can complete the survey HERE

The survey, which builds on our survey first conducted in 2022, will capture a comprehensive picture on everything from your matchday experiences to thoughts on TV broadcasting; your views on how your club engages with its fanbase to on-the-pitch issues and competition structure, and everything in between.

The data will be used not only the FSA but shared in our meetings with the major stakeholders in the women’s game, and be made available to our member supporter groups to help their work at a local level.

The survey is open to anyone who supports a team in the women’s game, from the Super League to the National League and beyond, as well as those who are followers of the women’s game in general.

See the report of our 2022 survey HERE

It doesn’t matter if you’re a season-ticket holder, someone who just goes to the occasional game or watches on TV, or just someone who roots for the women’s equivalent your men’s team; we want the views of all types of fans from the women’s game to make this the most comprehensive set of data possible.

The survey should take no more than around 10-15 minutes to complete – and you can do so here.

The FSA’s head of women’s football Deborah Dilworth said: “We are excited to launch the second edition of the women’s game supporters survey to get a feel for what matters to fans at all levels of the game.

“We are keen for as many supporters up and down the pyramid as possible to complete it, to get the most comprehensive picture possible of supporters views on a whole range of topics.”

 

TAKEN FROM: Women's game supporters survey launched - Football Supporters' Association (thefsa.org.uk)

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15 minutes ago, phantom said:

How would Bath and Weston not attract crowds?

Using AG8 will not only be financial suicide, but why would anyone want to be playing in a 27k capacity stadium to a few hundred people?

Might be an idea to spread some of the home games around to Weston and Bath, although maybe it would be unfair to the hard-core support who would expect to play at the HPC week in week out.

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On 18/02/2024 at 20:15, Wedontplayinblue said:

The hard one is phantom, they can’t try to plug that we are all one big club if you then force them to play elsewhere. 
All the WSL teams play away from the main Stadium and all gates fluctuate . Arsenal have just sold out the Emirates for a game, but they are due to play City at Meadow Park ( Borehamwood ) . It just makes sense, specially with the Rugby using the Stadium too.

There’s many which include myself, and do watch the women’s games from time to time with my kids, that even though they are playing in a city kit, it isn’t city to me. 
 

I wish them all the luck but if they went down for example, it wouldn’t concern me at all where With the men’s it’s a different kettle of fish.

I think that's normal for many , myself included. But then it's similar for our U21's . We all want them to win , but it doesn't hurt so much. If we were watching them week in week out then it may change, but with the exception of the hard core , most are at best part time. I think it would take a continued run in the WSL for that to change.

 

 

38 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Might be an idea to spread some of the home games around to Weston and Bath, although maybe it would be unfair to the hard-core support who would expect to play at the HPC week in week out.

I think that could be a great idea, it would give some young fans a chance to see BCWFC that they may not normally get . Then on the games they do play at the Gate , it may be more tempting. Getting out to a wider audience is never a bad thing .

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2 hours ago, shahanshahan said:

I don't know if clubs choose to "avoid" or not. With the exception of West Ham, all WSL clubs have had at least one game in the main stadium. Arsenal have made an effort to have more games at the Emirates, same for Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Of course, clubs have to consider costs, staffing etc when playing at stadiums

Quite a few clubs in the Championship also play in their main stadium too (Birmingham, Southampton, Sheffield United) & others have had some games in their main stadium (Blackburn, Crystal Palace, Watford, to name a few).

Those clubs dont have rugby played on it regularly though.

Your point about tbe cost of a matchday at a "proper" stadium is very pertinent, particularly for City who seem to be austere at present.

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5 hours ago, shahanshahan said:

England senior squad & U23 squad are both out in Spain right now. Naomi Layzell joined with the senior squad in training. Don't know if she'll get a senior call up with the friendlies that England have in the next few days...

 

Congrats to Naomi, I think she's been fab this season. Hope she'll stay with us regardless of the outcome at end of season but destined for better things no doubt

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20 minutes ago, Eco said:

Congrats to Naomi, I think she's been fab this season. Hope she'll stay with us regardless of the outcome at end of season but destined for better things no doubt

Sadly if she has any international inspirations she won't be 

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5 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

 

 

I think that could be a great idea, it would give some young fans a chance to see BCWFC that they may not normally get . Then on the games they do play at the Gate , it may be more tempting. Getting out to a wider audience is never a bad thing .

I agree with what you are saying about week in week out, but a lot of us support the men’s ever other Saturday (in theory) plus the odd away game, that’s a lot of time taken up, to then take up womens football too is too much of an ask for many people.

There was a post on here before saying how womens football needs to grow its own support, and not assume people who go to the men’s game will want to watch the women’s game (for a number of reasons, much like a low uptake or under 21 spectators) which I think in the main it is starting to do.

I remember going with my dad to mangotsfield to watch city’s women play Liverpool in the fa cup semi final, I think it must of been about 1995, it’s the only FA Cup semi final I’m probably going to see city play in. 

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4 hours ago, Natchfever said:

Those clubs dont have rugby played on it regularly though.

Your point about tbe cost of a matchday at a "proper" stadium is very pertinent, particularly for City who seem to be austere at present.

Im pretty sure that the women’s club isn’t connected to the men’s club, financially at least according to the charts.  

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12 hours ago, Wedontplayinblue said:

I remember going with my dad to mangotsfield to watch city’s women play Liverpool in the fa cup semi final, I think it must of been about 1995, it’s the only FA Cup semi final I’m probably going to see city play in. 

Blimey, I remember that game

There was great excitement that a team connected to Liverpool were playing against a City side

12 hours ago, Wedontplayinblue said:

Im pretty sure that the women’s club isn’t connected to the men’s club, financially at least according to the charts.  

Wrong - They both get financed from the same pot of money

12 hours ago, Natchfever said:

Still costs the club to open AG

Correct - rent etc has to be paid

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It's a bit of a dilemma IMO re the stadium capacity. The two venues they can use are obviously hugely different in size; it's either AG with 25k seats or the HPC with 500+ seats plus, what, another 1k of standing. 

Ideal venue would be 3-4k with the ability to make some profit on the day in a decent stadium with good facilities. 

Would hope that BS would take a long term view and maybe take a small hit on the finances to offer them AG at reduced rates in order to re-grow the club again next season. 

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22 hours ago, shahanshahan said:

Naomi Layzell started in the friendly between England U23s & Spain U23s this morning. Unfortunately, it was a 3-1 loss, but at some point this week did give this interview Sky Sports
 

 

Also a good piece on the BBC website headed 'Naomi Layzell: The England teenager on Sarina Wiegman's radar'  

 

Naomi Layzell was playing in the Women's Championship and for England's youth teams two years ago - but on Wednesday she was training with the European champions.

The opportunity took Layzell by surprise as the 19-year-old became the latest youngster to reap benefits from Sarina Wiegman's interest in England's next generation.

Emma Coates' under-23 squad are on a warm-weather training camp in Spain alongside England's senior players for the first time and it has given the youngsters a taste of what could come their way in the future.

They will hope to follow in the footsteps of recent senior call-ups Grace Clinton, Khiara Keating and Jess Park.

Bristol City centre-back Layzell was told by Coates she would be training with Wiegman's senior team on the evening they arrived in Marbella - and the former under-18 international jumped at the chance.

"It was really exciting. Nerve-racking obviously, but I was really happy with the opportunity," said Layzell.

"It doesn't come around every day and to play and train with some of the best players in the world, you're going to snatch at that chance if you can get it."

Layzell was straight on the phone to her parents to tell them the news.

"I was told after dinner and just thought 'OK, make sure you get a good night's sleep, you've got training tomorrow, try not to be too nervous'. I was trying not to shake.

"Sarina had a quick chat with me and then spoke to me after training as well. I called my parents [but] because I hadn't spoken to them since arriving, they were just trying to get all the details of the flight and everything.

"I was like: 'I've got something to tell you.' They said they knew some people would get the opportunity and they're so proud of me and all the work I've done."

The future Lionesses - why England's under-23s are thriving

'You never know where we could be'

Layzell started as the England Under-23s fell to a 3-1 defeat by Spain at the Marbella Football Centre on Thursday but has already used the camp to demonstrate her skills to Wiegman.

A major review of England's youth teams took place in 2018 and the FA, with Wiegman's support, have worked to make the under-23s more closely aligned to the first team.

It means Coates regularly communicates with Wiegman as the under-23s' style, tactics and philosophy look to mirror those of the senior squad.

"They work a lot together and they definitely talk about styles of play and trying to get us to play in similar ways," said Layzell.

"The under-23s' players are so talented and we definitely know a lot of the people could train up and just fit in that [senior] environment.

"I came away thinking I gave a good account of myself. I probably wasn't the best player on the pitch, naturally, but I came away thinking 'they're not going to think I'm rubbish'. That was the main thing.

"There were times when I was tackled, there were probably times when I got beaten, but it's just about being up against these players. It's the only way you're going to learn and get better - by challenging yourself.

"All of those players have probably been in a similar position to me. It's testament to them how far they've gone.

"It just shows that, people like me in the under-23s, if we keep working at it, we're persistent and keep taking these opportunities, then you never know where we could be in a few years' time."

 

German lessons and volunteering at a school

Layzell was playing for England at under-18 and under-19 level when the Lionesses won the Euros in 2022.

She was a regular for Bristol City in the Women's Championship, helping them earn promotion to the Women's Super League for the 2023-24 season, which has helped propel her on to Wiegman's radar.

"If you asked me [in 2022], if I could see where I was now, I would never say that I could have had this opportunity," said Layzell.

"Being in the WSL with Bristol City and getting promoted has really given me a chance to show myself and challenge myself. The under-23s is a stepping stone and you just have to rise to the challenge.

"You always aspire to get to the top and to be involved with the senior team, but it's hard to put a timeline on it because everyone grows at different rates."

Mature beyond her years, Layzell spoke impressively to media on Wednesday, showed leadership on the pitch on Thursday and spends her free time in Bristol regularly volunteering at a local school.

She gave an insight into her personality by explaining how she chooses to spend her time.

"I'm learning a new language - German. I did it at GCSE so it keeps me interested," said Layzell.

"I go on walks a lot. I try and do volunteering here and there as well. I help with reading with children at a local school near where I live in Bristol. The chaplain at Bristol City pointed me towards it because she knew I wanted to do something.

"None of the kids know that I play football, and I quite like that, because it means you can get to know them on a level. It's nice to know you're helping out and making an impact."

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Press conference came out earlier than I thought. Main takeaway is that Abi Harrison is expected to be out until the end of March. No other new updates regarding the other injuries (Fran Bentley, Rachel Furness, Satara Murray, Chloe Mustaki)
 

 

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On 26/02/2024 at 19:38, Eco said:

Naomi was pulled out of the U23 game v Netherlands due to tight hamstring in the warm up. Slightly worrying.

According to when Girls on the Ball asked the U23s coach, this was apparently a precaution. I can assume she'll be fine for Sunday. Lauren didn't say anything in today's press conference to suggest otherwise
 

 

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On 22/02/2024 at 13:53, Hamdon Mart said:

It's a bit of a dilemma IMO re the stadium capacity. The two venues they can use are obviously hugely different in size; it's either AG with 25k seats or the HPC with 500+ seats plus, what, another 1k of standing. 

Ideal venue would be 3-4k with the ability to make some profit on the day in a decent stadium with good facilities. 

Would hope that BS would take a long term view and maybe take a small hit on the finances to offer them AG at reduced rates in order to re-grow the club again next season. 

It would make sense to maybe put terracing down the TV gantry side of the pitch, and behind the goals, that's three or four steps deep.

 

I suppose the bigger issue would be other things like, having turn-styles, crowd control barriers\gates, planning permission, and suitable travel arrangements

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1 hour ago, shahanshahan said:

According to when Girls on the Ball asked the U23s coach, this was apparently a precaution. I can assume she'll be fine for Sunday. Lauren didn't say anything in today's press conference to suggest otherwise
 

 

Cheers, hope so. Hope Connolly is back in defence for Brighton. Just listening to Lauren's press conference, she said the defence performed poorly v Leicester, possibly due to Megan not there to organise?

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3 hours ago, beaverface said:

It would make sense to maybe put terracing down the TV gantry side of the pitch, and behind the goals, that's three or four steps deep.

 

I suppose the bigger issue would be other things like, having turn-styles, crowd control barriers\gates, planning permission, and suitable travel arrangements

As with all levels of the men's football pyramid, I'd be surprised if there weren't ground regulations that need to be met 

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Congratulations to ex City loanee Aggie Beever-Jones for being awarded the Women’s Young Player of the Year at the London Football Awards 🏆🏆

Pictured with Cole Palmer who picked up the mens award 

 

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13 hours ago, phantom said:

Congratulations to ex City loanee Aggie Beever-Jones for being awarded the Women’s Young Player of the Year at the London Football Awards 🏆🏆

Pictured with Cole Palmer who picked up the mens award 

That was some quick turnaround from being in Spain with the England U23s to back in London...

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