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3 minutes ago, phantom said:

Is it these (after 70 minutes) 

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Nope it was our record in previous seasons v Arsenal plus the fact we'd lost xxx number of games after trailing at half time. Thanks for posting these though, scary enough.

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Every time I flick over there another goal down , it must be soul destroying playing for city ladies , they seem to get battered every week , even when the scores are only 2 or 3 they seem to spend nearly all game defending , it’s as if anything below 3 is a victory , 

if the funding isn’t there by city ( which it obviously isn’t )  no point in being in the prem league of ladies football far to big a gap for them , they really can’t enjoy it 

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28 minutes ago, Spoons said:

This is hard to watch ….. 

I must admit I don’t watch a lot of women’s football, not because of any sort of sexism or misogyny, but it just doesn’t interest me in the same way as watching snooker or tennis doesn’t interest me.

But I am watching tonight and I would have to ask is this the way City have set up all season ?

Almost seems pointless playing, defending so deeply with no out ball.

Its just a training exercise for Arsenal

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Just now, Back of the Dolman said:

I must admit I don’t watch a lot of women’s football, not because of any sort of sexism or misogyny, but it just doesn’t interest in the same way as watching snooker or tennis doesn’t interest me.

But I am watching tonight and I would have to ask is this the way City have set up all season ?

Almost seems pointless playing, defending so deeply with no out all.

Its just a training exercise for Arsenal

The games I’ve watched we defend as 3 units, and each unit is disconnected and easy to play through.  We knacker ourselves by not having any compactness, and are constantly doing doggies to close the ball down.

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

The games I’ve watched we defend as 3 units, and each unit is disconnected and easy to play through.  We knacker ourselves by not having any compactness, and are constantly doing doggies to close the ball down.

It does seem very poor defensively for a team who are clearly set up defensively.

No point being so defensive if you can’t defend as a team.

May as well try and play higher and put the opposition under pressure a bit 

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3 minutes ago, redkev said:

Every time I flick over there another goal down , it must be soul destroying playing for city ladies , they seem to get battered every week , even when the scores are only 2 or 3 they seem to spend nearly all game defending , it’s as if anything below 3 is a victory , 

if the funding isn’t there by city ( which it obviously isn’t )  no point in being in the prem league of ladies football far to big a gap for them , they really can’t enjoy it 

City chose not to fund it properly, which is absolutely pathetic if you ask me.

I do genuinely feel sorry for our girls, most of whom are being asked to do a job beyond them.

If we ever get to the Prem, don't be too shocked if a similar investment strategy is implemented.

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It's very different to how we played in the Championship. We tried to keep playing that way but got hammered by Man City and changed to a much more defensive set up. It almost immediately worked and results picked up but dropped off and January signings at West Ham vs the ones we made have made quite a difference.

Plus, in fairness, injuries to Furness, Layzell and others haven't helped.

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13 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

The games I’ve watched we defend as 3 units, and each unit is disconnected and easy to play through.  We knacker ourselves by not having any compactness, and are constantly doing doggies to close the ball down.

Exactly that, and to compound the problem we never pick up anyone, it's like they're fixed to a position somewhere on the pitch and have to stay there 

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14 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

The games I’ve watched we defend as 3 units, and each unit is disconnected and easy to play through.  We knacker ourselves by not having any compactness, and are constantly doing doggies to close the ball down.

Sadly, it's down to 3 things. The coaching and tactics have made it very hard to get results. I can't see LS learning a great deal from this and rebuilding next season. I would get a new coach. The players are simply not good enough for WPL. When you come up against seasoned internationals every week then it's tough. This leads on to the final point. Investment, recruitment and development. If Bristol Sport is serious about a WPL team then it will cost. 

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Finally the final whistle. An end to that game and one which we realistically didn't have a chance with. Still a hard pill to swallow, but not unexpected, sadly. Amongst other stats to ponder over, the attendance was 3,500 (perhaps a late Sunday game has had some effect, but I suspect a lowly turnout by Gunner's standards. With West Ham picking up another point the gap is widening still further.

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2 minutes ago, Pippintogg said:

Sadly, it's down to 3 things. The coaching and tactics have made it very hard to get results. I can't see LS learning a great deal from this and rebuilding next season. I would get a new coach. The players are simply not good enough for WPL. When you come up against seasoned internationals every week then it's tough. This leads on to the final point. Investment, recruitment and development. If Bristol Sport is serious about a WPL team then it will cost. 

See my post below. 

Comms on Sky / FA Player have seemingly leaked information in the past 

To me it needs a clean sweep, if nothing else to change the losing mentally. It must be difficult to keep going every week knowing you are on a different level to the opposition, and with our remaining fixtures our goal difference is going to take a real hammering 

1 hour ago, phantom said:

Interesting on Sky comms they mentioned Lauren can relax as she knows whatever happens this season she'll be in charge next season 

 

1 hour ago, Eco said:

I do like the crowd singing. 

It got more like cub campfire songs from the early 1980s

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Just now, Erithacus said:

Finally the final whistle. An end to that game and one which we realistically didn't have a chance with. Still a hard pill to swallow, but not unexpected, sadly. Amongst other stats to ponder over, the attendance was 3,500 (perhaps a late Sunday game has had some effect, but I suspect a lowly turnout by Gunner's standards. With West Ham picking up another point the gap is widening still further.

I'd imagine the fact their first team played earlier may have had an impact, but that ground has a capacity of 4,500 so not much short 

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8 minutes ago, Pippintogg said:

Sadly, it's down to 3 things. The coaching and tactics have made it very hard to get results. I can't see LS learning a great deal from this and rebuilding next season. I would get a new coach. The players are simply not good enough for WPL. When you come up against seasoned internationals every week then it's tough. This leads on to the final point. Investment, recruitment and development. If Bristol Sport is serious about a WPL team then it will cost. 

The women's team are a subsidiary of the men's team, and you need look no further than Gavin Marshall/Jon Lansdown--> Steve Lansdown. Guaranteed they'll be spending as little as possible next season. But good news, they won't need to scuff up the Ashton Gate pitch 11 times.

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Did anyone else notice when the game went into injury time how behind Fran Bentleys goal loads of kids appeared with those begging signs for shirts? 

Next shot of that area showed the stewards moving them all along lol

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But good news, they won't need to scuff up the Ashton Gate pitch 11 times.

Don’t be so sure about this 🤫

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18 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Layzell comes on and sets up Arsenal for the 5th goal with a shocking pass🤦‍♂️

We've had hundreds of shocking passes this season tbh

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49 minutes ago, phantom said:

See my post below. 

Comms on Sky / FA Player have seemingly leaked information in the past 

To me it needs a clean sweep, if nothing else to change the losing mentally. It must be difficult to keep going every week knowing you are on a different level to the opposition, and with our remaining fixtures our goal difference is going to take a real hammering 

 

It got more like cub campfire songs from the early 1980s

I don't think Lauren being here next season was 'leaked info'. Didn't it come from an interview where it was mentioned that she had signed a new deal?

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55 minutes ago, Hamdon Mart said:

I don't think Lauren being here next season was 'leaked info'. Didn't it come from an interview where it was mentioned that she had signed a new deal?

If you mean this, it's from last October 

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/smith-signs-new-long-term-deal/

I'm amazed after this season that her position isn't under threat 

The way it was said in comms was like she'd received some recent update 

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Catching up on some posts now

On 14/04/2024 at 19:04, Eco said:

I do like the crowd singing. 

Yeah, the North Bank at Meadow Park was loud. Very vocal fanbase. Seemed even louder when I watched footage the game back 

On 14/04/2024 at 19:09, Lanterne Rouge said:

I particularly enjoyed the rousing rendition of `you`re shit ahhhhhh` from what sounded like a busload on a school trip!

I think Arsenal are the only fans I've heard to do that in women's football. I've tried to do it at games myself but am always conscious of kids being around. Although me & some others did try to do this for when Sabrina D'Angelo was in the goal in front of us during the first half, but she didn't take many big goal kicks

On 14/04/2024 at 19:42, Back of the Dolman said:

And renditions of ‘Bristol get battered everywhere they go’

I didn’t think that was part of the women’s games mantra.

I think they only sang that once towards the end of the first half. They mostly sang "Arsenal are massive, everywhere we go". Which makes more sense if they were at an away game, but each to their own.

Because there was a comparably smaller amount of away fans (in the opposite South Stand), I don't think most Arsenal fans in the North Bank saw or heard us. We kept singing as much as we could, and we were noisier than most Arsenal fans surrounding us in the South Stand terrace

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In true NTTDS style, here are most of my away day photos!
Meadow Park in Borehamwood is a nice little ground. Not sure how long Arsenal will play there as they continue to have more games at the Emirates.
I'm definitely in no rush to go again but at least I can say I have now been!
 

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17 minutes ago, shahanshahan said:

In true NTTDS style, here are most of my away day photos!
Meadow Park in Borehamwood is a nice little ground. Not sure how long Arsenal will play there as they continue to have more games at the Emirates.
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Are there no bins at Meadow Park then?

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44 minutes ago, shahanshahan said:

In true NTTDS style, here are most of my away day photos!
Meadow Park in Borehamwood is a nice little ground. Not sure how long Arsenal will play there as they continue to have more games at the Emirates.
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Great stuff. Good to see a large contingent of Reds made the trip. 

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43 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Are there no bins at Meadow Park then?

I get the joke, but I'll leave that purely for NTTDS.

I didn't get to see much of the concourse/burger van. Or Gunnersaurus (if he was actually there, but probably in the home end)

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18 minutes ago, Eco said:

Great stuff. Good to see a large contingent of Reds made the trip. 

Definitely! The supporters coach was a near sell-out. And I know more people would have gone but couldn't make the re-arranged date. Did see a few City supporters that made their own way up, and saw a few of those that are London-based (hi @SinéadB!)

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2 hours ago, shahanshahan said:

Fair point. Removed 😄

(For those that missed it, it was a picture of the scoreboard (when it was eventually working)

I admire your dedication Shahan.It must be a tough season for all of you dedicated supporters in what feels like a season of wasted opportunity. I was at the game at Ashton Gate when they won promotion and it is pretty sad to see how this season has unfolded.

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18 hours ago, Slacker said:

I admire your dedication Shahan.It must be a tough season for all of you dedicated supporters in what feels like a season of wasted opportunity. I was at the game at Ashton Gate when they won promotion and it is pretty sad to see how this season has unfolded.

Thank you! And I did say to say myself that I wanted to do every WSL away game if possible (which looks like I will), especially if there'll be no opportunity to do so next season.

And yes, it's coming up to the one year anniversary of that promotion game. If we don't win at home against Liverpool on Saturday, it will be a full calendar year without a win at home in all competitions 

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10 minutes ago, shahanshahan said:

Thank you! And I did say to say myself that I wanted to do every WSL away game if possible (which looks like I will), especially if there'll be no opportunity to do so next season.

And yes, it's coming up to the one year anniversary of that promotion game. If we don't win at home against Liverpool on Saturday, it will be a full calendar year without a win at home in all competitions 

Such a shame, especially when you consider the fantastic home support the team has had this year. 

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1 hour ago, Slacker said:

Such a shame, especially when you consider the fantastic home support the team has had this year. 

I would be surprised if we keep similar numbers the "Lioness" impact and "named" opposition clearly added thousands to crowds

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

I would be surprised if we keep similar numbers the "Lioness" impact and "named" opposition clearly added thousands to crowds

I think you are right. I imagine attendances will fall off a cliff next season. 

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If relegation is confirmed, I wonder if the club will remain at the Gate next season. (Incidentally, what are the regulations for grounds in the Championship?) I reckon sustained attendances at home this season levels out around 4,000. Attendances at the HPC are significantly smaller due to its restricted size so perhaps there is a feeling that the women could retain a good number of supporters if they stayed. It would be nice to hear what the club is planning on. I dare say there won't be the large turn-outs without the Lioness factor, but that last promotion game did bring out a big crowd.

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8 minutes ago, Erithacus said:

If relegation is confirmed, I wonder if the club will remain at the Gate next season. (Incidentally, what are the regulations for grounds in the Championship?) I reckon sustained attendances at home this season levels out around 4,000. Attendances at the HPC are significantly smaller due to its restricted size so perhaps there is a feeling that the women could retain a good number of supporters if they stayed. It would be nice to hear what the club is planning on. I dare say there won't be the large turn-outs without the Lioness factor, but that last promotion game did bring out a big crowd.

There are discussions already taking place about this within in the club and during one of the recent SC&T weekly meetings with the club about improving the atmosphere this topic was discussed. Obviously there were confidential financial and logistical details discussed and it is going to be a difficult outcome either way.

 

Personally speaking it is hard a very tricky decision as ultimately it is not only about the supporter experience but where the women's side would prefer to play. If we dropped to crowds of 1000 would the preference be to play in front of those 1000 people crammed into the HPC, or would it be better having 1000 completely lost in an empty AG8?

Clearly it is down to numbers expected as the HPC only has 400 seats and three of the sides of the ground don't even have cover or basic facilities.

 

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The Championship is looking really interesting to see who will be taking our place 

This Sunday (21/04) is:

Lewes (11th) Vs Crystal Palace (1st)

Sunderland (2nd) Vs Charlton (3rd) 

Sunday 28/04 is:

Charlton (3rd) Vs Southampton (4th)

Crystal Palace (1st) Vs Sunderland (2nd)

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

The Championship is looking really interesting to see who will be taking our place 

This Sunday (21/04) is:

Lewes (11th) Vs Crystal Palace (1st)

Sunderland (2nd) Vs Charlton (3rd) 

Sunday 28/04 is:

Charlton (3rd) Vs Southampton (4th)

Crystal Palace (1st) Vs Sunderland (2nd)

Also, this is the first season where the bottom two are relegated.
Last weekend, both Newcastle United & Portsmouth won promotion to the Championship after winning the National League North & South respectively.
(Pompey having their men's & women's teams promoted to both Championships at the same time? Crazy)

The Championship has been mad this season as there has been no clear frontrunner, and one reason why I am worried if City do indeed relegated, it would be a struggle to get promoted back up right away

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28 minutes ago, shahanshahan said:

Also, this is the first season where the bottom two are relegated.
Last weekend, both Newcastle United & Portsmouth won promotion to the Championship after winning the National League North & South respectively.
(Pompey having their men's & women's teams promoted to both Championships at the same time? Crazy)

The Championship has been mad this season as there has been no clear frontrunner, and one reason why I am worried if City do indeed relegated, it would be a struggle to get promoted back up right away

Yep, gonna be mega competitive to get back up.

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Some key points from the press conference:
- Abi Harrison back in contention for the squad this weekend
- Carrie Jones will be in the squad this weekend but Lauren Smith doesn't know yet if she'll play or not
- Smith still doesn't think there's any major reason why the team hasn't won at home
- A journalist in attendance said "Good luck for Sunday" not realising the game is on Saturday

 

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8 hours ago, phantom said:

The Championship is looking really interesting to see who will be taking our place 

This Sunday (21/04) is:

Lewes (11th) Vs Crystal Palace (1st)

Sunderland (2nd) Vs Charlton (3rd) 

Sunday 28/04 is:

Charlton (3rd) Vs Southampton (4th)

Crystal Palace (1st) Vs Sunderland (2nd)

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I hope Lewes stay up, they have a unique stadium and sound a proper club.

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4 hours ago, shahanshahan said:

Some key points from the press conference:
- Abi Harrison back in contention for the squad this weekend
- Carrie Jones will be in the squad this weekend but Lauren Smith doesn't know yet if she'll play or not
- Smith still doesn't think there's any major reason why the team hasn't won at home
- A journalist in attendance said "Good luck for Sunday" not realising the game is on Saturday

 

Could this be our first W? Liverpool have nothing to play for, well, 4th maybe.

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Yanez, Layzell, Bull (first WSL start), Furness come in for Bentley (illness), Powell, Stratigakis, Evans. Harrison makes the bench

KO 12.30pm, live on FA Player & BBC Radio Bristol. I'm not at the game today as I'm in Norwich to see the men's team today. So it seems very fitting for the women to finally win at home this afternoon

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13 minutes ago, phantom said:

That irritating band are playing rand shit during the game again 🤦

What's the obsession with having them at the games so often? 

If you mean the drummers, I had the misfortune to sit in front of them at the recent game against Spurs. They bring absolutely nothing to the match day experience.

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Just realised that they are stood pitchside between the Dolman and Atyeo stands where the stewards / police normally stand 

Who in their right mind thought it's a good idea to book a samba band to play constantly through the game 

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Lots of huff and puff but never looked like scoring 

We looked stronger with Furness on the pitch, but once her and Morgan were subbed off our chances were all but done 

I'm at a loss why it took until the 93rd minute to bring on Harrison for defender 

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2 hours ago, phantom said:

Lots of huff and puff but never looked like scoring 

We looked stronger with Furness on the pitch, but once her and Morgan were subbed off our chances were all but done 

I'm at a loss why it took until the 93rd minute to bring on Harrison for defender 

That was the best I've seen them this season at home, possession-wise it felt pretty equal. Thestrup had a great chance blasted straight at the keeper, she also should have been put through by Rodgers (think) 1st half but the pass was overhit. A few goalmouth scrambles and Evans had a decent effort. All in all a decent team performance, especially first half where Furness was a big influence. Kudos to Jasmine Bull, she done well as they say. Personally I like the drummers.

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2 hours ago, Eco said:

Personally I like the drummers.

You've got to be on a wind up? 

They played almost constantly through the 90 minutes, offering nothing to the atmosphere

I've never been aware of this at any UK ground apart from ours 

People are there to watch a football match not some two bob drum outfit 

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Slightly WSL related, was a great result for Chelsea winning 1-0 in the first leg of the Champions league semi final in Barcelona 

Their first home defeat since February 2019 

Now to finish the job off next Saturday evening 

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Intrigued to see 4,700 at the Gate - I was wondering if the Saturday lunchtime fixture would clash or draw new fans who would be otherwise at local matches instead on Sundays. I imagine Liverpool brought a few.

But the bottom line is...another home defeat. Looking at this season we have had nine home league games and lost the lot, not including a Cup game against Liverpool. The only positives were 1-1 draws in the Conti Cup - at the HPC! Ashton Gate has been a total loss and with only Man City and Everton left I fear there will not be any relief. Even though Man C are currently stuffing West Ham, I don't feel it will prevent the inevitable.

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On 20/04/2024 at 11:56, phantom said:

I know Fran is ill today, but it's amazing how often we've swapped our keeper from game to game 

It's been ridiculous. With none of them doing badly at all. Serve Smith right if they all cleared off to better clubs.

 

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1 hour ago, Coach said:

It's been ridiculous. With none of them doing badly at all. Serve Smith right if they all cleared off to better clubs.

 

Yaneltz was good yesterday, the charged down kick notwithstanding.

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Went to the game and it was so slow , everything was slow. No tempo , no urgency and passes either under hit or wayward. 
Odd tactics from city and Liverpool weren’t much better ! 
This city squad will struggle in the championship to fight for automatic promotion. 
 

why bring Abi Harrison on in 93rd minute 🤦‍♂️

 

 

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On 20/04/2024 at 19:37, phantom said:

You've got to be on a wind up? 

They played almost constantly through the 90 minutes, offering nothing to the atmosphere

I've never been aware of this at any UK ground apart from ours 

People are there to watch a football match not some two bob drum outfit 

The only benefit of the drummers is that they are on the other side of the stadium and have stopped the drum being among the fans.

 

No offence to the excellent fans with the drum last season and the start of this but it does not help tinnitus.

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Crystal Palace effectively promoted to WSL. They did announce project to achieve such one year ago (recruited our general manager as part of that process). Will be interesting to see how they fare. Assuming Leicester promotion, WSL will be entirely Premier League affiliated. Meanwhile minnows Lewes & Watford relegated from Championship replaced by Newcastle and Portsmouth. Will a much tougher league than 2 season ago. Will need a big reset by City to compete.

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8 hours ago, astrondrew said:

Just renewed my season tickets for next year. Same seat at Ashton Gate. I guess it's easy enough to move it to the HPC if they don't sell many but...

Are they even meant to be on sale yet? Haven't see any announcement of details but can also see the option to renew if I log in to the ticket site...

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1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said:

Are they even meant to be on sale yet? Haven't see any announcement of details but can also see the option to renew if I log in to the ticket site...

It does seem a little odd. I logged in for something else (to do with the men's team) and spotted the renewal option.

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Hi all, 

I'm hoping you might be able to help, this discussion is really relevant to a study I'm doing at the moment:

I’m looking for men aged 18-30, who have an interest in football, to take part in interviews about women's football for my dissertation. 

It would take around an hour but can flex to whatever time you have available. Watching/following/liking women’s football isn’t a requirement, just something to say about it.

Send me an email on gb19565@bristol.ac.uk if you'd be up for it! 

Thank you

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12 hours ago, astrondrew said:

Just renewed my season tickets for next year. Same seat at Ashton Gate. I guess it's easy enough to move it to the HPC if they don't sell many but...

How have you done this, they are not on sale yet

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