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Robbored

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3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Do the club Facebook and Twitter feeds suffice or does it HAVE to be the OS? Just for my own reference really so I know what to ignore. 

I don’t use twitter and rarely use FB so for e the OS is the official source for me,

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7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Hopefully Mawson is fit and over the knee problems.

It would be fantastic if we had the Mawson of a season or two ago ala Webster.

Looks like we could have a formidable back three..

 

What’s it all about ?

He’s passed a medical hasn’t he ?

I am sure the club would have paid particular attention to his past injuries and taken the decision to sign him in full knowledge of the possible recurrence.

Welcome Alfie . 

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My Fulham supporting friend has said:

Mawson has been at Fulham for two years, and injured for 14 months of that period. Sad really, because I like him a lot. But quite well known that Mawson will retire when his contract expires in two years or so. He apparently has no meniscus left in one of his knees, snapped one of his knee ligaments changing boots at half time. 

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1 minute ago, Major Isewater said:

What’s it all about ?

He’s passed a medical hasn’t he ?

I am sure the club would have paid particular attention to his past injuries and taken the decision to sign him in full knowledge of the possible recurrence.

Welcome Alfie . 

Fingers crossed we don't have another Afobe situation, if not, looks like a quality signing. 

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17 minutes ago, frenchred said:

surely this can’t be true as all the doom and gloom merchants said top players wouldn’t sign for holden

And some of those defending the appointment insisted it was the correct thing to do as we'd have no money for incomings, couldn't afford to allow someone like Hughton to bring his own backroom staff, FFP, 18th place would be acceptable based on our finances blah blah blah.....

I guess lots of people were wrong. 

In all seriousness, it's good to see Holden being backed financially. I know it's only a loan, but it certainly isn't a cheap loan.

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4 minutes ago, Selred said:

My Fulham supporting friend has said:

Mawson has been at Fulham for two years, and injured for 14 months of that period. Sad really, because I like him a lot. But quite well known that Mawson will retire when his contract expires in two years or so. He apparently has no meniscus left in one of his knees, snapped one of his knee ligaments changing boots at half time. 

I wonder what sort of medical we put him through? I don’t believe for one minute it to be ‘’quite well known’’ that a 26 year old will be retiring from the game in 2 years..

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6 minutes ago, Selred said:

My Fulham supporting friend has said:

Mawson has been at Fulham for two years, and injured for 14 months of that period. Sad really, because I like him a lot. But quite well known that Mawson will retire when his contract expires in two years or so. He apparently has no meniscus left in one of his knees, snapped one of his knee ligaments changing boots at half time. 

Join the club, it’s the pain CBs go through.  Didn’t do mine changing boots though.

2 minutes ago, Kibs said:

And some of those defending the appointment insisted it was the correct thing to do as we'd have no money for incomings, couldn't afford to allow someone like Hughton to bring his own backroom staff, FFP, 18th place would be acceptable based on our finances blah blah blah.....

I guess lots of people were wrong. 

In all seriousness, it's good to see Holden being backed financially. I know it's only a loan, but it certainly isn't a cheap loan.

Think we will start to see some outgoings starting to happen over the next week or so.

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7 minutes ago, Selred said:

My Fulham supporting friend has said:

Mawson has been at Fulham for two years, and injured for 14 months of that period. Sad really, because I like him a lot. But quite well known that Mawson will retire when his contract expires in two years or so. He apparently has no meniscus left in one of his knees, snapped one of his knee ligaments changing boots at half time. 

I’m sorry - clearly, that’s bollocks. (Not getting at you personally mate)

There is no chance in hell that the club would pay £25k a week to a defender who has no meniscus and is nearing injury driven retirement. Even if by a miracle he got through the medical the money side of the club would veto the deal straight away.

 

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Join the club, it’s the pain CBs go through.  Didn’t do mine changing boots though.

Think we will start to see some outgoings starting to happen over the next week or so.

I certainly hope so, too many players here to keep them all happy.  

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7 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

What’s it all about ?

He’s passed a medical hasn’t he ?

I am sure the club would have paid particular attention to his past injuries and taken the decision to sign him in full knowledge of the possible recurrence.

Welcome Alfie . 

Joe Williams "passed" a medical - he'll miss the first 5 or 6 games.

I'm hopeful that Mawson is able to play to his previous standard and if he does, that will be fantastic.

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Join the club, it’s the pain CBs go through.  Didn’t do mine changing boots though.

Is this meniscus issue debilitating enough to stop him playing at 100% ?

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Just now, Silvio Dante said:

I’m sorry - clearly, that’s bollocks. (Not getting at you personally mate)

There is no chance in hell that the club would pay £25k a week to a defender who has no meniscus and is nearing injury driven retirement. Even if by a miracle he got through the medical the money side of the club would veto the deal straight away.

 

The guy who told me isn't someone who would spout bollocks. He is a big Fulham fan and a very trusted voice too. 

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Just now, bcfc01 said:

Joe Williams "passed" a medical - he'll miss the first 5 or 6 games.

I'm hopeful that Mawson is able to play to his previous standard and if he does, that will be fantastic.

Is this meniscus issue debilitating enough to stop him playing at 100% ?

I can only say that with mine that it caused fluid buildup that often meant play a couple, miss a few....but I wasn’t a pro with all the specialist support they get.

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1 minute ago, Selred said:

The guy who told me isn't someone who would spout bollocks. He is a big Fulham fan and a very trusted voice too. 

Richard Osman????

No doubt he’s said it in good faith but to pay what we’re paying Mawson if it was true flies in the face of everything we’ve done as a club recently. I just can’t see it being the case.
 

 

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4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Richard Osman????

No doubt he’s said it in good faith but to pay what we’re paying Mawson if it was true flies in the face of everything we’ve done as a club recently. I just can’t see it being the case.
 

 

I wouldn't trust Osman, his opinion would be pointless. 

I'm not sure how the injury feels whilst playing, @Davefevs may be able to help, but perhaps Mawson won't train much and play through pain. After 2 more years he'd of earnt £2.4 million and could easily retire. 

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34 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I don’t use twitter and rarely use FB so for e the OS is the official source for me,

So you happened to check the City website all on your own just after 8pm on a Sunday coincidentally a matter of minutes after it was announced......

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43 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

No ambition, no-one will want to sign for us, more interested in the rugby, cheap options, yes men

Or something

That remains to be seen, id love to see us stay in the top 2 all season, but we are all going to have to wait and see whether holden is the right man for the job.

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Just had a gander at the Fulham forum, thankfully not a lot about his fitness or injuries - just out of form mainly.

He's had a pre-season with them with no problems so no reason to think he's got glass knees.

Just got to get him going here and regain confidence/form.

Good signing - could be great signing.

 

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53 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

No ambition, no-one will want to sign for us, more interested in the rugby, cheap options, yes men

Or something

There is always several ways to spin things:

We’ve yet to pay a ‘major’ transfer fee for a player this summer. Let’s not act like we’ve just smashed our transfer record.

Mawson in - yes great - but there are major question marks over his injury record and he may be in large wages, but let’s not forget that those wages may well be less than what we paid for the Williams and Benkovic loans of last season.

Martin was a free and the budget was there when we didn’t pay the agreed fee for Afobe and saved on his wages too.

The only player we’ve paid a fee for is currently injured.

And we could well end up selling key players in Famara and/or Eliasson - and we’re yet to see if/how that cash will be reinvested.

Currently our squad is bolstered by 4 younger players (Vyner/Moore/Morrell/Walsh) all whom a lot of fans are putting a lot of expectation on already for this season. I hope they have great seasons but we’ve seen it before so many times before over the years, they could just as easily be flops as successes and very quickly become the fickle fans’ scapegoats.

And over all of this is still a rookie manager, yet to prove he can cut it at this level.

I’m not being negative, just saying, perhaps all this willy waving and over celebrating over a few signings needs to be put in a little perspective.

That said - a great signing if he stays fit.

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5 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

There is always several ways to spin things:

We’ve yet to pay a ‘major’ transfer fee for a player this summer. Let’s not act like we’ve just smashed our transfer record.

Mawson in - yes great - but there are major question marks over his injury record and he may be in large wages, but let’s not forget that those wages may well be less than what we paid for the Williams and Benkovic loans of last season.

Martin was a free and the budget was there when we didn’t pay the agreed fee for Afobe and saved on his wages too.

The only player we’ve paid a fee for is currently injured.

And we could well end up selling key players in Famara and/or Eliasson - and we’re yet to see if/how that cash will be reinvested.

Currently our squad is bolstered by 4 younger players (Vyner/Moore/Morrell/Walsh) all whom a lot of fans are putting a lot of expectation on already for this season. I hope they have great seasons but we’ve seen it before so many times before over the years, they could just as easily be flops as successes and very quickly become the fickle fans’ scapegoats.

And over all of this is still a rookie manager, yet to prove he can cut it at this level.

I’m not being negative, just saying, perhaps all this willy waving and over celebrating over a few signings needs to be put in a little perspective.

That said - a great signing if he stays fit.

Amen, best way to judge is after 10+ games. Hard to predict either way, particularly given these strange times. A lot to look forward to with solid signings, also a lot of untried/untested players @ this level, along with a rookie manager. 

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30 minutes ago, Selred said:

The guy who told me isn't someone who would spout bollocks. He is a big Fulham fan and a very trusted voice too. 

Fulham fan I know also said much the same, basically that it was hilarious we sign him due to injury to Baker when he has pretty much been permanently unavailable due to injury at Fulham. 

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24 minutes ago, tin said:

If Mawson’s over his injury problems, it looks a good loan signing on paper and he should slot straight into that back three with Kalas and Moore. 

No club in their right mind would pay out £25k + a week for a player if they hadn’t done the due diligence on his injury and current fitness especially knowing Baker was out for the rest of the year

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6 minutes ago, citywest30 said:

Pleased with this signing. We are definitely looking a more physical team than last year with the 3 newbies so far.

Brunt, if he comes in, can be a bit of a cruncher.

Morrell can also put it about.

 

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9 minutes ago, INCRED said:

No club in their right mind would pay out £25k + a week for a player if they hadn’t done the due diligence on his injury and current fitness especially knowing Baker was out for the rest of the year

Dont let sound logic stand in the way of someone’s mate opinion , whatever next !

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28 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

There is always several ways to spin things:

We’ve yet to pay a ‘major’ transfer fee for a player this summer. Let’s not act like we’ve just smashed our transfer record.

Mawson in - yes great - but there are major question marks over his injury record and he may be in large wages, but let’s not forget that those wages may well be less than what we paid for the Williams and Benkovic loans of last season.

Martin was a free and the budget was there when we didn’t pay the agreed fee for Afobe and saved on his wages too.

The only player we’ve paid a fee for is currently injured.

And we could well end up selling key players in Famara and/or Eliasson - and we’re yet to see if/how that cash will be reinvested.

Currently our squad is bolstered by 4 younger players (Vyner/Moore/Morrell/Walsh) all whom a lot of fans are putting a lot of expectation on already for this season. I hope they have great seasons but we’ve seen it before so many times before over the years, they could just as easily be flops as successes and very quickly become the fickle fans’ scapegoats.

And over all of this is still a rookie manager, yet to prove he can cut it at this level.

I’m not being negative, just saying, perhaps all this willy waving and over celebrating over a few signings needs to be put in a little perspective.

That said - a great signing if he stays fit.

Yeah but the difference is we've invested during a time where some clubs are in austerity due to the pandemic. 

A lot of negativity was towards SL recently bizarrely as some sort of cheap skate because of Deans appointment and I think people are just countering that position now with these clear investments in players regardless if they came with a fee. The stature of these players will command a high ongoing wage so definitely won't be cheap. 

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Its quite interesting how some on here slate people and comments from Fulham fans about Aflie's injury risk because it's not what we want to hear, yet if they were positive comments I suspect they would be praising the Fulham fans!!!

Let's just wait and see how this turns our. No doubt Mawson had the ability and a level of skill a few years ago that we need, however if his injury risk is close to the comments from a small number of Fulham fans, then we could regret this big time.

Personal I'm going to put my trust in the medical and the scouts and cross my fingers that we haven't done a Homer and added another injury prone player to the medical departments 'to do' list.

But t the same time I'm not going to slate the feedback from some Fulham fans. 

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59 minutes ago, Selred said:

I wouldn't trust Osman, his opinion would be pointless. 

I'm not sure how the injury feels whilst playing, @Davefevs may be able to help, but perhaps Mawson won't train much and play through pain. After 2 more years he'd of earnt £2.4 million and could easily retire. 

No probs, when playing, it was afterwards, or after a couple of games.

He could sit around for two years if his basic is £25k ???

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38 minutes ago, INCRED said:

No club in their right mind would pay out £25k + a week for a player if they hadn’t done the due diligence on his injury and current fitness especially knowing Baker was out for the rest of the year

Let’s hope you’re right and it’s not another Afobe or Velicka situation. As I said, good signing if he’s fully fit and over his injuries. Nothing negative in that to pick holes in.

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1 hour ago, Major Isewater said:

What’s it all about ?

He’s passed a medical hasn’t he ?

I am sure the club would have paid particular attention to his past injuries and taken the decision to sign him in full knowledge of the possible recurrence.

Welcome Alfie . 

I don’t know, it’s a tough one Major, who to believe? Do we go with some blokes who’s knowledge is from the terraces and no greater than ours, or medical professionals who have actual facts and personal knowledge of the situation?

It’s a dilemma...... 

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Fantastic to sign him, he’s a superb player.

Surely we have the best centre backs in the division now with Mawson and Kalas?

Interesting he played every game of his second season at Swansea in the Prem and was called up to the senior England squad twice but didn’t get off the bench.

Incredible Fulham paid £20m for him as well. 

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1 minute ago, Fatalist said:

He appears to have played 27 games last season. Not quite the picture painted by some.

...and was back fit at the end of the season, but Hector had come in and stole his place.  In fact Hector was on my short list last summer, and Fulham missed the deadline, so had to wait until January to sign him.

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Not adding much, but also from a Fulham mate:

”Think he might be good, but can’t stay fit. Played every week until we got Hector, however we were crap before then. I think a lot depends on the quality of your other CB, but as a loan I think it’s a great option”.

Far more complimentary than he was about Woodrow...!

Just now, cider hoss rules said:

I must be the only fecker on here without a mate who supports Fulham!

They’re bleedin’ everywhere :ph34r:

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17 minutes ago, Fatalist said:

He appears to have played 27 games last season. Not quite the picture painted by some.

You just had to go and ruin it by stating some facts didn't you. Don't be coming on here spouting your facts Mr!!

Did you not read all the previous comments saying that he was injury prone and never able to play!? 

On paper, signing Webster when we did was a bit more of a gamble than Mawson seems..... 

If him, Kalas and Moore can stay fit, with Williams in front of them (hopefully he isn't out for too long), and Dasilva/Hunt pushed forward a bit more, Martin coming in (think that's going to be a great signing) God dammit I may be just getting a little optimistic...... 

With that in mind, watch us sell Fam and Nic now!!!

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49 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

Yeah but the difference is we've invested during a time where some clubs are in austerity due to the pandemic. 

A lot of negativity was towards SL recently bizarrely as some sort of cheap skate because of Deans appointment and I think people are just countering that position now with these clear investments in players regardless if they came with a fee. The stature of these players will command a high ongoing wage so definitely won't be 

I keep hearing this ‘cheap option’ thing  about Holden but I’m not sure I’ve actually ever actually read it myself, but there we go. If it is, it’s a very small minority.

I think my, and the majority of other fans concerns/disappointment over DH i’ve read had nothing to do with money.

R.E Investment in the squad. Interestingly we’ve lost Afobe, Smith, Pereira, Williams, Benkovic, Maenpaa this summer. That’s 6 gone and what I’d guess is a significant chunk of wages.

Current transfers in are 3, so you could argue financially we might be currently paying less for those new 3 than the other 6. Our wage bill could have gone down. Who knows. Only Williams is on a long term deal. Martin is 2 years and Mawson a season loan, so neither a huge long term investment as you suggested. 

Yes great, we’ve made some signings. But as far as I can I see it’s all plugging of holes in the squad that we probably needed to regardless of austerity, so I’m not popping any champagne corks. Hopefully each are an upgrade and we’ll see where those upgrades take us. Proof’s in the pudding. 

None of this takes away from my point that this season will see a reliance on untested at this year younger players. Hopefully they shine. We will see.

R.E Austerity - quite a lot of business has been done now in the championship. Yeah the big fees aren’t flying around like they still are in the premier league, but Swansea, Norwich, Stoke at first glance look to have done some not cheap business.

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1 minute ago, Alessandro said:

I keep hearing this ‘cheap option’ thing  about Holden but I’m not sure I’ve actually ever actually read it myself, but there we go. If it is, it’s a very small minority.

I think my, and the majority of other fans concerns/disappointment over DH i’ve read had nothing to do with money.

R.E Investment in the squad. Interestingly we’ve lost Afobe, Smith, Pereira, Williams, Benkovic, Maenpaa this summer. That’s 6 gone and what I’d guess is a significant chunk of wages.

Current transfers in are 3, so you could argue financially we might be currently paying less for those new 3 than the other 6. Our wage bill could have gone down. Who knows. Only Williams is on a long term deal. Martin is 2 years and Mawson a season loan, so neither a huge long term investment as you suggested. 

Yes great, we’ve made some signings. But as far as I can I see it’s all plugging of holes in the squad that we probably needed to regardless of austerity, so I’m not popping any champagne corks. Hopefully each are an upgrade and we’ll see where those upgrades take us. Proof’s in the pudding. 

None of this takes away from my point that this season will see a reliance on untested at this year younger players. Hopefully they shine. We will see.

R.E Austerity - quite a lot of business has been done now in the championship. Yeah the big fees aren’t flying around like they still are in the premier league, but Swansea, Norwich, Stoke at first glance look to have done some not cheap business.

Good post.

Proof will indeed be in the eating of the pudding.

On paper, Williams improves our midfield, and Mawson improves our CB3.  Martin is a sensible signing in that he can fit with any if the strikers (again on paper).

We are recruiting to a plan.  I think we look stronger...by the end of the window we will have less “clubs in the bag” hopefully.

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Really happy with this, and as others have said if there is not past injury worries then happy days.

But........... I have to say that I can't quite remember a first interview permanent or loan that has unnerved me so much!

He looked like he wanted to kill someone. Maybe nerves, not great at interviews, tired? or maybe we've found a right hard'un no nonsense CB. Yes I did see him laugh in the roof video which was good, maybe someone said cheer up mate and he laughed when they fell off the roof.

 

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Good post.

Proof will indeed be in the eating of the pudding.

On paper, Williams improves our midfield, and Mawson improves our CB3.  Martin is a sensible signing in that he can fit with any if the strikers (again on paper).

We are recruiting to a plan.  I think we look stronger...by the end of the window we will have less “clubs in the bag” hopefully.

A fully fit squad this season Dave I agree looks stronger. Especially if 1 or 2 of the youngsters really step up this season. That is exciting for me. That may change if we sell Fam (and to a certain extent Eliasson).
 

Despite my early strong reservations on DH, he has already begun to impress me with what he has been saying and doing, so I’m desperately hoping to be proved wrong there too.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

I keep hearing this ‘cheap option’ thing  about Holden but I’m not sure I’ve actually ever actually read it myself, but there we go. If it is, it’s a very small minority.

I think my, and the majority of other fans concerns/disappointment over DH i’ve read had nothing to do with money.

R.E Investment in the squad. Interestingly we’ve lost Afobe, Smith, Pereira, Williams, Benkovic, Maenpaa this summer. That’s 6 gone and what I’d guess is a significant chunk of wages.

Current transfers in are 3, so you could argue financially we might be currently paying less for those new 3 than the other 6. Our wage bill could have gone down. Who knows. Only Williams is on a long term deal. Martin is 2 years and Mawson a season loan, so neither a huge long term investment as you suggested. 

Yes great, we’ve made some signings. But as far as I can I see it’s all plugging of holes in the squad that we probably needed to regardless of austerity, so I’m not popping any champagne corks. Hopefully each are an upgrade and we’ll see where those upgrades take us. Proof’s in the pudding. 

None of this takes away from my point that this season will see a reliance on untested at this year younger players. Hopefully they shine. We will see.

R.E Austerity - quite a lot of business has been done now in the championship. Yeah the big fees aren’t flying around like they still are in the premier league, but Swansea, Norwich, Stoke at first glance look to have done some not cheap business.

Well hopefully you are right about that opinion being a minority and I understand peoples concerns about his appointment from a footballing perspective and we don't have to bring that discussion to the surface again. When the announcement of Deans appointment was made trust me their was plenty of digs at SL for his financial commitment such comparisons to the rugby team (that just don't correlate at all in any feasible way) 

Quite a lot has been done by certain clubs but you've also correctly conceded to the fact that that the footballing economy has in the large part been supressed. That's my point regardless of outgoing's we still have invested in these times of uncertainty and backed the manager for which I'm happy with the quality of signings incoming. We could of really taken the cheap option and extended Ashley Williams. 

 

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