dREDful Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 They'll go up now imo. Be some weekends ruined for some on here after tonights news :laugh: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Not my favourite City manager, but definitely on the short list. Holden appointed in the morning? Edited January 30, 2022 by Curr Avon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: #notasgoodasCotts Steve Cotterill’s Shrewsbury currently 16th…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Blimey! New owner mustnt like POMO’s and Box entries then. Got fed up i’d imagine. Edited January 30, 2022 by nickolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Why would he come back? Why would we want him? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, dREDful said: They'll go up now imo. Be some weekends ruined for some on here after tonights news They're probably already planning his route for a come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, grifty said: I bet you are as hard as a rock right now That last post was my climax. Been gagging to say it for ages. Now the time has come and I can let go for a little while. On a serious note, I genuinely don’t hate Lee Johnson, I just think he’s a real cringeworthy character and a bit of a ****. No actual malice there! asterisked word rhymes with ‘that’. Edited January 30, 2022 by Fordy62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Why would he come back? Didn’t say he would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Yeap! That Bolton result clearly hit them hard. never....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 This didn’t help https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/promotion-youre-having-a-laugh-talksport-pundit-slams-lee-johnson-after-sunderland-lose-to-bolton-wanderers-3547401 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Ah my bad. Delete me mods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Steve Cotterill’s Shrewsbury currently 16th…. Yeh… as comparable as Cotts’ Bristol City and LJ Bristol City! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Seems at least some Sunderland fans pretty unhappy at the news, which you don’t normally get with a sacking. They clearly do expect to win the league and be almost unbeaten don’t they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: If LJ comes back I will dance a merry jig. Imagine dancing a merry jig to a guy who has achieved nothing in Football. Literally nothing. Bit sad really. Glad we have Pearson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, 2015 said: Imagine dancing a merry jig to a guy who has achieved nothing in Football. Literally nothing. Bit sad really. Glad we have Pearson It was a joke mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 No- I just think this one should hang around for a while.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Edited January 30, 2022 by Slippin cider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, nickolas said: Ah my bad. Delete me mods! Don't knock it. Nothing wrong with good news. For Wearsiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Not my favourite City manager, but definitely on the short list. Ahem. The correct thing to say is vertically challenged list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: If LJ comes back I will dance a merry jig. Do I need to point out that I wouldn’t?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Steve Cotterill’s Shrewsbury currently 16th…. Yeah, Shrewsbury paying double the wages and four or five times the attendance of Sunderland too…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, nickolas said: Ah my bad. Delete me mods! Don’t worry you’ll be tuped across Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: Yeah, Shrewsbury paying double the wages and four or five times the attendance of Sunderland too…… I know. It was a joke to Fordy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Fordy62 said: Do I need to point out that I wouldn’t?! You'd probably taser yourself in the head if he came back as manager, @Fordy62 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Red-Robbo said: You'd probably taser yourself in the head if he came back as manager, @Fordy62 Genuinely, I think I’d prefer relegation! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Ahem. The correct thing to say is vertically challenged list. Sorry, I'm on the naughty step, please leave a message. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 So, he hasnt been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 A Mate has just text to tell me that apparently the decision to leave was mutual and LJ is off to join Pep at Man City. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Not a massive fan of LJ, and I thought he was a strange appointment for us, and he got overthinking paralysis after getting drunk on a ego-heavy Cup run….. However, who in Gods name do Sunderland think they are?! They are embarrassing from top to bottom, and their fans are vitriolic, deluded and completely unsavoury. This is a bit harsh I think but ultimately an amusing soap opera about our ex-manager and a bonkers club. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Sunderland was always a gamble for him...going to a club that actually expected to win promotion, something LJ has never achieved as a manager at any level in well over 400 matches and never looked like achieving with us for all the 'clubs in the bag' he was handed. Be interesting to see what he does next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Fordy62 said: A Mate has just text to tell me that apparently the decision to leave was mutual and LJ is off to join Pep at Man City. Someone is winding you up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhurst Red Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 He's gone alright! https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/12529081/sunderland-sack-head-coach-lee-johnson-following-6-0-defeat-by-bolton-in-league-one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Fordy62 said: A Mate has just text to tell me that apparently the decision to leave was mutual and LJ is off to join Pep at Man City. He wants Rugby lines on The Etihad's pitch I expect, Johnson can advise with his full USP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Red Exile said: Sunderland was always a gamble for him...going to a club that actually expected to win promotion, something LJ has never achieved as a manager at any level in well over 400 matches and never looked like achieving with us for all the 'clubs in the bag' he was handed. Be interesting to see what he does next. What he does next is a genuinely interesting question… I think it’ll probably be league one again. 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Someone is winding you up! Oh Dave. Hang your head! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Fordy62 said: What he does next is a genuinely interesting question… I think it’ll probably be league one again. Gas - if/when Joey implodes (further). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Warnock to Sunderland is a rumour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Shame that it's not worked out for LJ at Sunderland. Seems a bit of a knee jerk decision given that they're 3rd in the league. I find the malice and vitriol towards him from some of our fans rather peculiar. Of course he has flaws (as all managers do), but I have no doubt that he gave his all during his time here and always had the best interest of the club at heart. (The same can't be said for Ashton, however, who I think is much more deserving of disrespect). 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Fordy62 said: What he does next is a genuinely interesting question… I think it’ll probably be league one again. I wonder what the record is for number of games managed without ever gaining a promotion? He's currently on 449. I know he liked to set records. I'd have said LJ was a perfect fit for a club with lots of resources and limited expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red Exile said: Sunderland was always a gamble for him...going to a club that actually expected to win promotion, something LJ has never achieved as a manager at any level in well over 400 matches and never looked like achieving with us for all the 'clubs in the bag' he was handed. Be interesting to see what he does next. I agree. I think it was a bold move and was surprised he went for it. He's done his profile some real damage though I think - fired from mid table championship, fired from really big budget/club in L1. Not sure where he goes next, he needs to win something when he does though. Just now, Red Exile said: I wonder what the record is for number of games managed without ever gaining a promotion? He's currently on 449. I know he liked to set records. I'd have said LJ was a perfect fit for a club with lots of resources and limited expectations. Wasn't that us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Bit mental that tbh but whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: A Mate has just text to tell me that apparently the decision to leave was mutual and LJ is off to join Pep at Man City. Thing is, that could actually happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: Not a massive fan of LJ, and I thought he was a strange appointment for us, and he got overthinking paralysis after getting drunk on a ego-heavy Cup run….. However, who in Gods name do Sunderland think they are?! They are embarrassing from top to bottom, and their fans are vitriolic, deluded and completely unsavoury. This is a bit harsh I think but ultimately an amusing soap opera about our ex-manager and a bonkers club. still a true sleeping giant though....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 LJ and JMc gone…https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60190652 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, IAmNick said: Not sure where he goes next, he needs to win something when he does though. He won the Papa John cup we won a few years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-hugh-blind Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Joke of a club. Wait till end of season like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Unsurprisingly he gets worked out slightly quicker when the club doesn’t have an owner emotionally invested in his career. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, petehinton said: Thing is, that could actually happen If at any point in his career Lee Johnson works under Pep, give me a shout and I’ll have 10 bottles of Weston’s Vintage send over to you. The only place that’ll happen is in LJ’s mind. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: He won the Papa John cup we won a few years back Yeah fair point, but I think you know what I mean really - can't believe many employers will be looking at Sunderland winning that and licking their lips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, IAmNick said: Yeah fair point, but I think you know what I mean really - can't believe many employers will be looking at Sunderland winning that and licking their lips. For the level he is at they likely will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I feel sorry for him. Don’t know the ins and outs of it all of course, and their loss yesterday was terrible but I thought he’d get them up this year - they were still in a really good position. This is the closest they’ve got to a return to the championship in years, not sure what else they expect. Hope they **** it right up now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I truly don't get this thing about mocking players and managers who delivered better times for us than we have now. Flint, Pack, Reid, Bryan, Johnson. And so on. They absolutely don't hate us, they don't deny the good times we had.... what pleasure is there in ridiculing them now? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Funny one. Looking over their results, they’d smash a fair few teams but also get dicked fairly regularly. I wonder what that’s down to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Billy Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Lee Johnson - plays all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order. Potential for greatness but runs the risk of having a bright future behind him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWSM Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Get him back.. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Listening to Sunderland fans on Twitter spaces - saying inconsistency is what has killed him. Battered by the teams around them too often, no consistency from game to game, sometimes even half from half, using players in the wrong positions. All sounds familiar to his time here tbh. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, IAmNick said: Wasn't that us? Yes...the perfect fit! For me SLs loyalty after that dreadful run at the start of 2018 summed up everything wrong with City. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 And thats why Sunderland probably won't go up any time soon, no one given time to build something 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: A Mate has just text to tell me that apparently the decision to leave was mutual and LJ is off to replace Pep at Man City. Corrected for you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFree Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Think I am correct in saying he has never managed a side to Promotion? Sunderland are drifting away from automatic so I guess they feel he has taken as far as he can perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 points off the top of the league...bad defeat yesterday but strange decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, billywedlock said: I never approved of our appointment of LJ. He was ill prepared at the beginning and only got worse with his confused mind. Made worse by having Ashton as his sidekick. I never cared that he played for us and never used to worry that his dad managed him. I just thought it was a terrible appointment and the football played for the majority of time was awful as he was making it up. I am not wanting to argue the issue, just to say I am far from his fan. However. I have not followed Sunderland until today. Now I know he has the biggest budget (ever) in L1 and 5000 fans went to Bolton yesterday . But if I look at the table, they are 3rd 2 points off of the top. I can see others have games in hand, but the return of 5 points out of the last 15, and that terrible loss has clearly sent the board over the top. But, wow, that is his team, and even if they do not do automatic , play offs are certain. I just looked at their forum, and no shock, the same issues LJ rear their head again. He has not evolved with age or recognised his weaknesses. However, he has also managed to get Sunderland close, and he does have his coaching ideas and strategy, that has them that very close. They are in play and it is far from a lost cause. On the surface seems a little crazy. You can only think he has not convinced them he knows what to do to keep them up there after such a battering. No idea. For all of his lack of ability, LJ is very honest and a dedicated hard working person. He certainly does not steal a living. He is just not very good. Who has actually said he has the biggest ever budget in l1? Is it really bigger than when they had Rodwell there on 75k a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, TomF said: Very harsh, until the weekend they were on a very decent run of form. Wondering if he lost the plot in dressing room Could be , can’t see him squaring up to players mind, maybe he just bit someone? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Yes it was a bad defeat, but they are third FFS! Seems a mental decision but I guess they think they need a final push? If the new person gets them up does LJ get some of the credit? Either way his CV will still read reasonably well despite not having gained a promotion or trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Red Exile said: I wonder what the record is for number of games managed without ever gaining a promotion? He's currently on 449. I know he liked to set records. I'd have said LJ was a perfect fit for a club with lots of resources and limited expectations. Ipswich Town? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, One Team said: Ipswich Town? Nah. They already have the greatest football mind in the history of the game in charge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Warnock perhaps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Alex Neill be a good fit i reckon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, One Team said: Ipswich Town? Had occurred to me! But Ashton's only just appointed a new chap to that role. I'm not sure why LJ wants to be a manager. He appears to have a decent reputation as a coach but has zero track record of actually leading sides to league success, at any level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Their forum is quite a read. Lots of “enough was enough” type comments. Enough of what? One point off promotion, two points off the title? If they were outside the play offs or way off automatic and they had that defeat they perhaps I’d see the point. I’m not much of a LJ fan but it seems very harsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) What odds Paul Cook takes it on and gets them over the line? LJ should never have got the job here and should’ve been given the boot much earlier than he was IMO. I’m not surprised to see him fail at Sunderland, even if the term fail is nuanced and it’s harsh given their position. His stock is only going one way, unless Ashton offers him a way out at Ipswich in the future. Always thought he’d make an excellent assistant, if his ego let him. Edited January 30, 2022 by tin 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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