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3 minutes ago, Harry said:

I’d heard of rumours of another party being involved and that Dreyfus was perhaps not the only major shareholder. 
Totally unconfirmed, so just rumour 

The Defoe and Keane stuff reminds me of the slightly vapid marquee signings Lansdown has made in the past.

Perhaps it’s a similar sort of thing there.

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To have a shortlist with Alex Neil and Grant McCann on it, both with a L1 promotion to their name and Alex Neil much more besides, but decide that your no.1 candidate is instead someone who hasn't been a manager for 10 years, tells you everything you need to know about the basketcase that is Sunderland AFC.

Letting your heart rule your head only ends in tears. Just ask Steve Lansdown. 

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3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

To have a shortlist with Alex Neil and Grant McCann on it, both with a L1 promotion to their name and Alex Neil much more besides, but decide that your no.1 candidate is instead someone who hasn't been a manager for 10 years, tells you everything you need to know about the basketcase that is Sunderland AFC.

Letting your heart rule your head only ends in tears. Just ask Steve Lansdown. 

Insane that anyone would consider Keane over Neil, they have struck lucky here.

Neil actually has a promotion to the Prem on his CV as well & if Nige had decided to step down I’d have been happy with him.

Overachieves with his resources.

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5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Insane that anyone would consider Keane over Neil, they have struck lucky here.

Neil actually has a promotion to the Prem on his CV as well & if Nige had decided to step down I’d have been happy with him.

Overachieves with his resources.

Yes got the right man - but more by luck than judgement. Doesn't say much for their judgement does it?

In which case, we can expect the soap opera that is Sunderland to keep on c0cking up for a while longer yet. Shame as they are by far and away the most acceptable team from that neck of the woods imo. Why aye. 

I'd have a wager Neil will get them up though. After that.... 

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37 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Yes got the right man - but more by luck than judgement. Doesn't say much for their judgement does it?

In which case, we can expect the soap opera that is Sunderland to keep on c0cking up for a while longer yet. Shame as they are by far and away the most acceptable team from that neck of the woods imo. Why aye. 

I'd have a wager Neil will get them up though. After that.... 

Can’t be arsed with any of that “Sunderland until I die” Netflix nonsense but saw the footage last season of when their fans were abusing Charlie Wyke (a 30 goal striker) & LJ after a home game.

Obviously there are far more of them, but they were gas level in their stupidity..

 

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Can’t be arsed with any of that “Sunderland until I die” Netflix nonsense but saw the footage last season of when their fans were abusing Charlie Wyke (a 30 goal striker) & LJ after a home game.

Obviously there are far more of them, but they were gas level in their stupidity..

 

Not watched any of that netflix stuff. But their fanzine was one of my favourites, back in the day. And Jonathan Wilson of course. So not all bad. And little of the delusional entitlement found on the other side of the Tyne. 

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8 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Not watched any of that netflix stuff. But their fanzine was one of my favourites, back in the day. And Jonathan Wilson of course. So not all bad. And little of the delusional entitlement found on the other side of the Tyne. 

Me neither, Ozark or Money Heist definitely but life is far too short to spend watching stuff about other football fans…

Jonathan Wilson is great, but still somewhat of a rum cove (Norman Bates?) but you’re right, Sunderland are a very big club but don’t get the “best fans in the world” bollocks that Sky always spouts about their Tyneside neighbours.

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For some reason in my mind Alex Neil seems like he should be a lot older than he is - but he's actually the same age as Lee.

I think he's a really good manager though. Will be interesting to see what he can do with a bit of money at Sunderland, compared to Preston. Shame really as I quite like him, but don't particularly want Sunderland to do well...

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27 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Can’t be arsed with any of that “Sunderland until I die” Netflix nonsense but saw the footage last season of when their fans were abusing Charlie Wyke (a 30 goal striker) & LJ after a home game.

Obviously there are far more of them, but they were gas level in their stupidity..

 

You are missing out, it’s an interesting football documentary

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17 hours ago, IAmNick said:

For some reason in my mind Alex Neil seems like he should be a lot older than he is - but he's actually the same age as Lee.

I think he's a really good manager though. Will be interesting to see what he can do with a bit of money at Sunderland, compared to Preston. Shame really as I quite like him, but don't particularly want Sunderland to do well...

His record certainly stands up but if his Preston side are anything to go by he'll soon have them diving, time wasting, faking injuries and whinging to referees.

Good manager but hard to like for me. Mind you some might say the same about Nigel I suppose.

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8 minutes ago, VT05763 said:

Got the right man for the job there I think.

Football will be dull and functional but he does get more out of a group than the individuals.

Struggles with signings though.

To be fair at Preston he was selling players for good money and being told to replace them on 10% - 20% what he was selling the player for 

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

He struggled or the club’s finances constrained him?  I thought he recruited brilliantly in the circumstances.  I wish he’d been in charge of our recruitment in the past 5 years or so.

He struggled because of the financial restraints. Gives him an excuse but difficult to judge his signings.

But things started to go wrong at Preston when his long term squad began to break up. Not able to replicate.

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6 minutes ago, VT05763 said:

He struggled because of the financial restraints. Gives him an excuse but difficult to judge his signings.

But things started to go wrong at Preston when his long term squad began to break up. Not able to replicate.

Just coming at this from a simple position…

…Alex Neil’s Preston finishes above City in all bar one season since we both got promoted, on a hugely constrained budget compared to ours, we on the flipside spunk money all over the place, and it’s difficult to judge his signings?  His last signing was Emil Riis Jakobson!

Maybe time to move on, agreed, but his recruitment at Preston was pretty darn good imho.  Happy if you disagree though…all about opinions.

(note: he signed Timm Klose for Norwich)

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Just coming at this from a simple position…

…Alex Neil’s Preston finishes above City in all bar one season since we both got promoted, on a hugely constrained budget compared to ours, we on the flipside spunk money all over the place, and it’s difficult to judge his signings?  His last signing was Emil Riis Jakobson!

Maybe time to move on, agreed, but his recruitment at Preston was pretty darn good imho.  Happy if you disagree though…all about opinions.

(note: he signed Timm Klose for Norwich)

Yep have to disagree - Once Pearson et al left he could not rebuild.

Don't get me wrong exactly the type of manager that we needed here post Holden - get the most out of what we had.

Just think that is his thing, do well with less.

Sacked at Norwich and sacked at Preston.

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18 minutes ago, VT05763 said:

Yep have to disagree - Once Pearson et al left he could not rebuild.

Don't get me wrong exactly the type of manager that we needed here post Holden - get the most out of what we had.

Just think that is his thing, do well with less.

Sacked at Norwich and sacked at Preston.

Which is most managers remit bar the big 6. ?

(He did get Norwich promoted!)

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1 hour ago, VT05763 said:

Yep have to disagree - Once Pearson et al left he could not rebuild.

Don't get me wrong exactly the type of manager that we needed here post Holden - get the most out of what we had.

Just think that is his thing, do well with less.

Sacked at Norwich and sacked at Preston.

To say he struggled at Preston is quite clearly incorrect. His time there was successful when viewed as a whole project of work.  If your stance is if a manager gets sacked then the whole time at a club has been a failure, as you imply, then I’d strongly disagree. 

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2 hours ago, VT05763 said:

He struggled because of the financial restraints. Gives him an excuse but difficult to judge his signings.

But things started to go wrong at Preston when his long term squad began to break up. Not able to replicate.

When you sell Hugill and only get funds to get someone like Stockley of course you’re going to struggle 

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1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

To say he struggled at Preston is quite clearly incorrect. His time there was successful when viewed as a whole project of work.  If your stance is if a manager gets sacked then the whole time at a club has been a failure, as you imply, then I’d strongly disagree. 

You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain.

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3 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

To say he struggled at Preston is quite clearly incorrect. His time there was successful when viewed as a whole project of work.  If your stance is if a manager gets sacked then the whole time at a club has been a failure, as you imply, then I’d strongly disagree. 

Not what I said, he was very successful with a very limited squad, once that started to break up he was unable to sustain it with with the replacements. 

I would have been happy with him here after Holden.

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3 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

1-0 down to Wimbledon. Was LJ the real problem?

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They lost 2 games in 14 leading to his sacking (albeit his final game was a hammering) 

They have picked up 1 point from the following 3 games and gone from 2 points off the top, to 10 points adrift of that now. 

Stupid decision and I hope they fail miserably. 

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10 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

They lost 2 games in 14 leading to his sacking (albeit his final game was a hammering) 

They have picked up 1 point from the following 3 games and gone from 2 points off the top, to 10 points adrift of that now. 

Stupid decision and I hope they fail miserably. 

Got to agree. Think I read somewhere that they picked up more points in the calendar year than any other club in England. On top of losing his top striker at the end of last season & from my very minimal knowledge of their transfer dealings, they’ve spent hardly anything ( although a Sunderland fan on here seemed to think they have spent a lot on loans & wages ). Don’t think he’ll be out of the game too long in all honesty. COYR 

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On 10/02/2022 at 19:59, Merrick's Marvels said:

Not watched any of that netflix stuff. But their fanzine was one of my favourites, back in the day. And Jonathan Wilson of course. So not all bad. And little of the delusional entitlement found on the other side of the Tyne. 

I still have original 1980s copies of the somewhat sober and serious "Wise Men Say (Johnson Out)" If you'd like to buy

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On 09/02/2022 at 17:53, Harry said:

I’d heard of rumours of another party being involved and that Dreyfus was perhaps not the only major shareholder. 
Totally unconfirmed, so just rumour 

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On 15/02/2022 at 15:56, !james said:

Sunderland fans not happy! Seems a lot more going on in the background... 

 

 

21 minutes ago, chinapig said:

By an "owner" who, it turns out, is actually a minority shareholder. A case of Sunderland till I lie??

Told ya. ?

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2 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

If Johnson isn’t pissing his pants he’s a better man than me!

Didn't want Defoe perhaps,  signing announced the day after LJ sacked I believe.

We will never know but surely they were on target to reach the play offs at least under LJ and JM ?

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41 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

I wonder what Newcastle fan and friend of LJ Brian Tinnion thinks.

 

Oh.

I remember being it the same position here one Christmas...we kept Johnson, same result....indeed, look what he left us, admittedly we also had Ashton helping him!

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Sunderland boss Alex Neil explains the stark choice he faces when selecting his starting XI

James Hunter  3 hrs ago
 
 
 
 
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Alex Neil admits he is between a rock and a hard place having to decide whether to field players who are jaded and need a break, or others who are not yet up to match fitness.

The new Sunderland head coach has walked into a storm on Wearside, taking over a side that had won just one of its last seven games and that had slipped way off the automatic promotion pace.

And after drawing his first game in charge at AFC Wimbledon and now losing 2-1 against MK Dons in his first home game at the helm, the crisis shows no sign of easing.

Go here for all the latest Sunderland AFC news

Sunderland have now lost four of their last five games and are seventh in the table - outside the play-off places on goal difference.

Neil spoke about the problems with the squad he has inherited after the game at Wimbledon and expanded on the theme following yesterday's defeat against MK Dons.

He has young players such as Dan Neil, Dennis Cirkin, Callum Doyle, and Ross Stewart who have been mainstays of the side but are clearly in need of a break, while January additions such as Patrick Roberts, Jack Clarke, Trai Hume, and Jermain Defoe are short of minutes and therefore match practice.

"I highlighted it last week and the last thing I want to do is start trying to find excuses and reasons," said Neil.

"The difficulty we have got is the fitness levels of some of the players.

"A lot of the lads haven't played enough gametime, and the problem I have in the limited amount of games we have left is to decide how much I expose them to minutes, because if they are not ready then they can't show their best and that affects the game in a negative way for us.

"We're running out of games, so that side of things is really difficult.

"But of course, you want to get as many of them out on the pitch [as you can] because they can make the difference.

"There are variables that make that much more challenging.

"If it was as straightforward as having everyone on the same level, everyone really fit, they're all ready to go, it's an easy decision, isn't it? I'd just pick who was firing on the day.

"Unfortunately, at the moment, we are not at that stage.

"There's a group of younger players who are in the team who have been playing all season and they need taking out - 100 percent.

"The problem is, what do you choose?

"Play people who are under in terms of minutes and who are not quite ready, or those over their minutes and who has been flogged to death and needs taking out?

"What do you choose?"

There were boos at the full-time whistle as Sunderland's dismal run extended to one win in nine since the turn of the year, and Neil was left trying to pick out what positives he could from another poor performance and worse result.

He said: "As a coach, what you have to do is try to take the result and the performance and try to separate them.

"We need to improve the performance, and what naturally then happens is that the results improve.

"Like the bulk of fans at every club, if you lose then you're cr*p, and if you win then you're alright.

"That's quite straightforward and I understand that.

"That's why in press conferences I'm running the risk of [saying] 'I thought we did well in the second half', and people saying 'he talks a lot of cr*p'.

"That's fine.

"What I have to do is try to balance the game and from a structural point of view large parts of the second half were good, but of course we got got done on the transition on the counter."

 

 

Basically, they're knackered! Exactly why LJ's teams consistently hit the wall at the same point in the season. Didn't we know it. 

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16 minutes ago, DingleRed said:
Chronicle Live

Sunderland boss Alex Neil explains the stark choice he faces when selecting his starting XI

James Hunter  3 hrs ago
 
 
 
 
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Alex Neil admits he is between a rock and a hard place having to decide whether to field players who are jaded and need a break, or others who are not yet up to match fitness.

The new Sunderland head coach has walked into a storm on Wearside, taking over a side that had won just one of its last seven games and that had slipped way off the automatic promotion pace.

And after drawing his first game in charge at AFC Wimbledon and now losing 2-1 against MK Dons in his first home game at the helm, the crisis shows no sign of easing.

Go here for all the latest Sunderland AFC news

Sunderland have now lost four of their last five games and are seventh in the table - outside the play-off places on goal difference.

Neil spoke about the problems with the squad he has inherited after the game at Wimbledon and expanded on the theme following yesterday's defeat against MK Dons.

He has young players such as Dan Neil, Dennis Cirkin, Callum Doyle, and Ross Stewart who have been mainstays of the side but are clearly in need of a break, while January additions such as Patrick Roberts, Jack Clarke, Trai Hume, and Jermain Defoe are short of minutes and therefore match practice.

"I highlighted it last week and the last thing I want to do is start trying to find excuses and reasons," said Neil.

"The difficulty we have got is the fitness levels of some of the players.

"A lot of the lads haven't played enough gametime, and the problem I have in the limited amount of games we have left is to decide how much I expose them to minutes, because if they are not ready then they can't show their best and that affects the game in a negative way for us.

"We're running out of games, so that side of things is really difficult.

"But of course, you want to get as many of them out on the pitch [as you can] because they can make the difference.

"There are variables that make that much more challenging.

"If it was as straightforward as having everyone on the same level, everyone really fit, they're all ready to go, it's an easy decision, isn't it? I'd just pick who was firing on the day.

"Unfortunately, at the moment, we are not at that stage.

"There's a group of younger players who are in the team who have been playing all season and they need taking out - 100 percent.

"The problem is, what do you choose?

"Play people who are under in terms of minutes and who are not quite ready, or those over their minutes and who has been flogged to death and needs taking out?

"What do you choose?"

There were boos at the full-time whistle as Sunderland's dismal run extended to one win in nine since the turn of the year, and Neil was left trying to pick out what positives he could from another poor performance and worse result.

He said: "As a coach, what you have to do is try to take the result and the performance and try to separate them.

"We need to improve the performance, and what naturally then happens is that the results improve.

"Like the bulk of fans at every club, if you lose then you're cr*p, and if you win then you're alright.

"That's quite straightforward and I understand that.

"That's why in press conferences I'm running the risk of [saying] 'I thought we did well in the second half', and people saying 'he talks a lot of cr*p'.

"That's fine.

"What I have to do is try to balance the game and from a structural point of view large parts of the second half were good, but of course we got got done on the transition on the counter."

 

 

Basically, they're knackered! Exactly why LJ's teams consistently hit the wall at the same point in the season. Didn't we know it. 

Maybe not, it’s classic management to go in and claim something like the players aren’t fit enough, anything you can pin on the previous regime as to why you’re not starting well as it’s hard to put in on the players because you’ve got to work with them and you’re not going to say you got it wrong. 

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I think they’ll miss out on the play offs too you know. Seems a few teams with momentum heading in the opposite direction to Sunderland - Sheff Weds for instance.

Who knows, maybe Sunderland will do a turn of the century Bristol City and be stuck down there for 7, 8 seasons. That would seriously damage them as a club I think - a whole generation of kids growing up in the north east seeing Sunderland as a league one team.

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35 minutes ago, Robin101 said:

I think they’ll miss out on the play offs too you know. Seems a few teams with momentum heading in the opposite direction to Sunderland - Sheff Weds for instance.

Who knows, maybe Sunderland will do a turn of the century Bristol City and be stuck down there for 7, 8 seasons. That would seriously damage them as a club I think - a whole generation of kids growing up in the north east seeing Sunderland as a league one team.

Especially with Newcastle seemingly about to take off, and challenge the big boys in the P.L.

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14 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I read that as sticking up for LJ not banter?

Yep, exactly the same. 
 

Fact is, it seemed a knee-jerk bizarre sacking at the time (and I know some don’t like Johnson, but he had the best record of any Sunderland manager since they hit that level despite losing his main striker), and the worse Sunderland do post the sacking, the more bizarre it looks. 
 

Put it this way, if they carry on bombing and don’t make the playoffs I’d bet, to the chagrin of some, LJs standing will have been enhanced as opposed to reduced by the time on Wearside and how it ended.

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25 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I read that as sticking up for LJ not banter?

 

20 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Me too.

Sunderland fans are delusional.

 

7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Yep, exactly the same. 
 

Fact is, it seemed a knee-jerk bizarre sacking at the time (and I know some don’t like Johnson, but he had the best record of any Sunderland manager since they hit that level despite losing his main striker), and the worse Sunderland do post the sacking, the more bizarre it looks. 
 

Put it this way, if they carry on bombing and don’t make the playoffs I’d bet, to the chagrin of some, LJs standing will have been enhanced as opposed to reduced by the time on Wearside and how it ended.

OK, that would makes sense - the clapping hands being sarcastic and pointing at Sunderland's decision to sack LJ.

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5 hours ago, DingleRed said:
Chronicle Live

Sunderland boss Alex Neil explains the stark choice he faces when selecting his starting XI

James Hunter  3 hrs ago
 
 
 
 
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Alex Neil admits he is between a rock and a hard place having to decide whether to field players who are jaded and need a break, or others who are not yet up to match fitness.

The new Sunderland head coach has walked into a storm on Wearside, taking over a side that had won just one of its last seven games and that had slipped way off the automatic promotion pace.

And after drawing his first game in charge at AFC Wimbledon and now losing 2-1 against MK Dons in his first home game at the helm, the crisis shows no sign of easing.

Go here for all the latest Sunderland AFC news

Sunderland have now lost four of their last five games and are seventh in the table - outside the play-off places on goal difference.

Neil spoke about the problems with the squad he has inherited after the game at Wimbledon and expanded on the theme following yesterday's defeat against MK Dons.

He has young players such as Dan Neil, Dennis Cirkin, Callum Doyle, and Ross Stewart who have been mainstays of the side but are clearly in need of a break, while January additions such as Patrick Roberts, Jack Clarke, Trai Hume, and Jermain Defoe are short of minutes and therefore match practice.

"I highlighted it last week and the last thing I want to do is start trying to find excuses and reasons," said Neil.

"The difficulty we have got is the fitness levels of some of the players.

"A lot of the lads haven't played enough gametime, and the problem I have in the limited amount of games we have left is to decide how much I expose them to minutes, because if they are not ready then they can't show their best and that affects the game in a negative way for us.

"We're running out of games, so that side of things is really difficult.

"But of course, you want to get as many of them out on the pitch [as you can] because they can make the difference.

"There are variables that make that much more challenging.

"If it was as straightforward as having everyone on the same level, everyone really fit, they're all ready to go, it's an easy decision, isn't it? I'd just pick who was firing on the day.

"Unfortunately, at the moment, we are not at that stage.

"There's a group of younger players who are in the team who have been playing all season and they need taking out - 100 percent.

"The problem is, what do you choose?

"Play people who are under in terms of minutes and who are not quite ready, or those over their minutes and who has been flogged to death and needs taking out?

"What do you choose?"

There were boos at the full-time whistle as Sunderland's dismal run extended to one win in nine since the turn of the year, and Neil was left trying to pick out what positives he could from another poor performance and worse result.

He said: "As a coach, what you have to do is try to take the result and the performance and try to separate them.

"We need to improve the performance, and what naturally then happens is that the results improve.

"Like the bulk of fans at every club, if you lose then you're cr*p, and if you win then you're alright.

"That's quite straightforward and I understand that.

"That's why in press conferences I'm running the risk of [saying] 'I thought we did well in the second half', and people saying 'he talks a lot of cr*p'.

"That's fine.

"What I have to do is try to balance the game and from a structural point of view large parts of the second half were good, but of course we got got done on the transition on the counter."

 

 

Basically, they're knackered! Exactly why LJ's teams consistently hit the wall at the same point in the season. Didn't we know it. 

Always a convenient excuse for a new manager saying “these players aren’t fit enough”. And that they are too tired. 
Until you realise that their 10 outfield players have played a total of 22,034 minutes this season but the opposition had played 22,880. 
Then the excuse doesn’t wear. 

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1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

 

 

OK, that would makes sense - the clapping hands being sarcastic and pointing at Sunderland's decision to sack LJ.

Yep. It’s clearly BT saying what a ridiculous decision it was to sack LJ. 
As others have said on here, I am really enjoying their demise. 

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4 hours ago, Lrrr said:

Maybe not, it’s classic management to go in and claim something like the players aren’t fit enough, anything you can pin on the previous regime as to why you’re not starting well as it’s hard to put in on the players because you’ve got to work with them and you’re not going to say you got it wrong. 

Exactly. 
A lot of times, when a manger is sacked, it’s because a team is really struggling, the players aren’t playing for the boss, lack of confidence etc. 

A new man coming in can light a fire and reinstill confidence, hence you often get a brief turnaround of results. 
 

When a manager is sacked when the team are 2nd in the league having just won a manager of the month, I’d imagine the players are more befuddled than lacking confidence and it’s likely more difficult for the new manager to reignite something that hadn’t been lost. Hence they need to make excuses. 

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Always a convenient excuse for a new manager saying “these players aren’t fit enough”. And that they are too tired. 
Until you realise that their 10 outfield players have played a total of 22,034 minutes this season but the opposition had played 22,880. 
Then the excuse doesn’t wear. 

 

Maybe, but then look at the kilometres run as well as minutes on field

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15 minutes ago, Portland Bill said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but is this the same LJ Sunderland that were getting spanked by four and six goals whilst he was still their manager ?. The rot had kicked in, that’s why they sacked him. 

Or.. viewed another way, the same LJ Sunderland that were top of league going into that last loss. Pretty hard to make the case that 'rot had sent in' when you're top of the league.

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1 hour ago, Harry said:

Always a convenient excuse for a new manager saying “these players aren’t fit enough”. And that they are too tired. 
Until you realise that their 10 outfield players have played a total of 22,034 minutes this season but the opposition had played 22,880. 
Then the excuse doesn’t wear. 

Yep, a lazy rhetoric.

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