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1 minute ago, Alan Dicks said:

Not Nigel's team granted, but he’s been here long enough now to have had some positive affect on results.

Sadly that’s not the case and there has been absolutely no improvement from the Holden days. 

Agree....and even if not results, at the very least some sort of pattern, style, we still look like 11 players who've never met each other and don't know what they are supposed to be doing. 

I'm sure SL made a comment in the interview he did for one of the podcasts recently - something along the lines of having several irons in the fire a year ago, that he couldn't get over the line then, but thought maybe might come to something later. Almost implied that Holden was a stop gap to get us through this season. If that was the case then I do wonder wether some of those irons are in a slightly warmer fire right now.

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3 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Yep, a blot on his copy book.

To play devils advocate, if you were another club and you appointed Pearson in the summer, how much of a lass would you give him because ‘Bristol City are ******* state’?

I honestly don't know how we are perceived at other clubs. And those clubs might ignore our injury crisis, look at our results at the begining of the season and feel a new manager ought to be doing better.

And given that this blot on Pearson's copy book means it is now four jobs since he was last an unqualified success, I'd say Pearson needs to make this work as much as we'd need him to make it work. 

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6 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

So where would we be without his money? Don't see a queue waiting to give away 10 million every year to cover losses.

Or perhaps we could get a nice fake sheik instead and have a lovely ground and stunning squad like the gas

I’m thankful for having a owner like Steve.  However I’ve been disappointed too. He’s got the club in a good position as being well run. We’ve just haven’t done it on the pitch consistently we’ve been in a decline since the play off final.

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2 minutes ago, Super said:

Why are people blaming Pearson? These wasters have thrown every manager under the bus. 

Yep and why I can't watch any of these wasters any longer. Won't be watching our 3 remaining games and I will wait to see if I return next season depending on who is let go. I am disgusted with too many players in this squad. 

How many times this season and last has it been a low point? Too many for me. Enough

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Just now, Superjack said:

Or maybe he will be brave enough to fly in the face of opinion and see beyond the results of a absolute shambles of players that Pearson has been lumbered with.

I still hope so.

And I said 'cluster****', not 'shambles'.

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12 minutes ago, MATT BCFC said:

I do wonder if NP is the right man for the job to be honest. We look worse under him than Holden. 

I feel football may have moved on from the days NP had success. 

He had relative success at Watford, and they would not be in the championship if they had kept him.

I know it’s not been good but I don’t think it’s down to Pearson. The sad truth is that our players are not committed enough. Professionals should have more pride.

 I think we need to keep Pearson and let him build a team.

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2 minutes ago, WarksRobin said:

In fairness, most managers fail at Derby and Watford has a revolving door

Sure - and I'm not actually criticising Pearson. I'm just pointing out that, given his last few jobs haven't worked brilliantly, he could really do with succeeding somewhere and would likely rather stay and try to make it work than leave and this season be the only season on his record here. 

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Bunch of tarts the lot of them, we deserve nothing, we fight for nothing and should mind the gap because we could well fall into it duck them all....wasters.

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We can all accept players not being good enough if the effort is there. There was a comment earlier about someone happy Bakinson was running a lot?! I mean seriously is that where we are with these players? Laughable

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I’m unhappy with the points return from NP, but I’d let him clear out and bring in new blood. He has had enough success for me to give him a chance next season. Let’s face it, our current crop of gutless little brats have crapped on 3 managers, I’m willing to let Nige to his thing and build something with his coaching staff.

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Trying not to be too angry at the moment & being knee jerk about NP

If we look back to both GJ & cotts starts , cotts wasn’t instant , GJ’s was bloody terrible . Won his first but didn’t win for 8 or 9 after. 
I actually saw some cohesion first half in midfield . But, as soon as they got amongst  us second half we collapsed 

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17 minutes ago, GasDestroyer said:

If it wasn’t for those fluke win results, we would be down.

Yes, but I think that If we have had half the injuries we had, we wouldn't have risked relegation. I'm very disappointed by the 2nd part of our season, but we must not forget that our situation has been far more troublesome compared to other teams one, and our weaknesses have been more exposed mainly for this reason.

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15 minutes ago, BigTone said:

On current results if we give NP the job then relegation is a banker next season. Get a new man in.

To be honest Tone. I think the rot is set so bad we will be relegated next season regardless of Pearson in or out. We’ve been on a decline last 3 years and have failed to address the issue. Which has been the structure the club runs under the control of Ashton off the field and Johnson on the field. This all leads back to Lansdown. 

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It's not his squad. He can't change a thing other than juggle with U23's and cope with a a crippling injury hit squad. People need to put a lid on it and get a reality check.

We badly need the season to end so we can start getting rid and rebuilding.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BigTone said:

I honestly do not know who is available but at this point in time NP just has not produced the goods.  I was excited when we took him on but am now thinking he is no more motivated than any of our under achieving players. He is seeing us as a well paid 6 month fill in job I think.

And who would blame him,he’s not a Barton who would take a contract knowing full well the players are not good enough but take the money.If Pearson stays he will be promised a hell of a lot of money to completely change the squad if not he won’t and we will get some another boss who has to work with these players and that means one thing I’m afraid 

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5 minutes ago, BigTone said:

I honestly do not know who is available but at this point in time NP just has not produced the goods.  I was excited when we took him on but am now thinking he is no more motivated than any of our under achieving players. He is seeing us as a well paid 6 month fill in job I think.

I am beginning to feel the same. I understand about injuries and OOC players but can he not at least get 11 people on the pitch who can perform the basics and are at least willing to put effort in. Beginning to think his man management is not such a feature we all thought.

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I’m sorry, but why are people worried about relegation this season? I’ve seen people saying we’re not safe.

Wycombe can’t catch us.
Wednesday can’t catch us.
Even supposing Rotherham win their two games in hand, they’re 6 points behind - would need to win all three, probably.
Even if Rotherham do win all 5 remaining games - Derby are 8 points behind with 9 to play for.

We’d have to see Rotherham and Derby winning all of their remaining games, as well as Huddersfield picking up 4 points and Blackburn & Forest doing better than us.

Even if we lose all three remaining games, we’re safe.

NP knows what needs to be done. These players are dreadful, a sign of poor recruitment. But we’d still have won tonight had Semenyo’s shot gone in.

Give him a summer of his own recruitment. 
 

Only thing that would have changed for me, if I wasSL, is that I’d be looking to offer a two year contract rather than a 3 year.

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5 minutes ago, HappyClapper said:

He had relative success at Watford, and they would not be in the championship if they had kept him.

I know it’s not been good but I don’t think it’s down to Pearson. The sad truth is that our players are not committed enough. Professionals should have more pride.

 I think we need to keep Pearson and let him build a team.

My wife supports Watford and that's not true. He had an excellent honeymoon period and then they were awful after lockdown, hence why they got rid.

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Just now, Kodjias Wrist said:

If we had Walsh, Williams, Weimann and COD in the team I feel we would be producing much better displays but then again we have an injury crisis so can't do much.

Rubbish sorry, Weimann and COD run around a bit and thats it, the others are sicknotes and I doubt will ever play regularly for us if at all. No point hoping for injured players to improve us we had well good enough players out there and on the bench to win tonight....they couldnt be arsed.

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1 minute ago, Reigate Red said:

I am beginning to feel the same. I understand about injuries and OOC players but can he not at least get 11 people on the pitch who can perform the basics and are at least willing to put effort in. Beginning to think his man management is not such a feature we all thought.

Agree.  We seem to have digressed rather than progressed under his leadership.

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2 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

I’m sorry, but why are people worried about relegation this season? I’ve seen people saying we’re not safe.

Wycombe can’t catch us.
Wednesday can’t catch us.
Even supposing Rotherham win their two games in hand, they’re 6 points behind - would need to win all three, probably.
Even if Rotherham do win all 5 remaining games - Derby are 8 points behind with 9 to play for.

We’d have to see Rotherham and Derby winning all of their remaining games, as well as Huddersfield picking up 4 points and Blackburn & Forest doing better than us.

Even if we lose all three remaining games, we’re safe.

NP knows what needs to be done. These players are dreadful, a sign of poor recruitment. But we’d still have won tonight had Semenyo’s shot gone in.

Give him a summer of his own recruitment. 
 

Only thing that would have changed for me, if I wasSL, is that I’d be looking to offer a two year contract rather than a 3 year.

I thought we had debunked the relegation 'fear' last week, just never going to happen!!!

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6 minutes ago, steveybadger said:

That is seriously harsh on Bentley

Perhaps so, i didnt have the luxury of replays, but 2 punches went straight to their players, so did he need to punch both? Perhaps.....but could he of caught it & took the sting out of the attack? No idea, only watched it once, which is why i said “did he need to”

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3 minutes ago, Swede said:

It's not his squad. He can't change a thing other than juggle with U23's and cope with a a crippling injury hit squad. People need to put a lid on it and get a reality check.

We badly need the season to end so we can start getting rid and rebuilding.

 

 

Agreed. It does have the look of trying to get 11 people retiring at the end of the week onto a training course.  

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That was  a disgrace. Diedhiou, Wells should not have started. Both of you don't turn up for training again. You can't trap a ball, pass to one of your own players. You cant even be bothered.

Hunt, Palmer start looking for new clubs now.

Good effort from Semenyo, Massengo, Bakinson, Kalas and Bentley.

The rest of you if your contracts are up you are off at the end of the season.

I still think Nigel is the man for the job. If SL does not give him a chance then all the good work SL  has done will count for nothing.

SL and MA this is all your doing you should me ashamed of yourselves. Get rid of most of your best players just to show a profit and you end up with this mess. MA has had to much power over players and backroom staff.

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3 minutes ago, Swede said:

It's not his squad. He can't change a thing other than juggle with U23's and cope with a a crippling injury hit squad. People need to put a lid on it and get a reality check.

We badly need the season to end so we can start getting rid and rebuilding.

 

 

SL needs to get his ass over here, and sort it out fast. If NP has the job get it done now, so we can start letting the dead wood have a head start on there summer break.  

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2 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

Rubbish sorry, Weimann and COD run around a bit and thats it, the others are sicknotes and I doubt will ever play regularly for us if at all. No point hoping for injured players to improve us we had well good enough players out there and on the bench to win tonight....they couldnt be arsed.

Agree completely cod has been absolute shite since we were mugged by Oxford into paying actual money for him .... Williams is this Messiah who's played 10 minutes of football and even if he was fit who knows if he's even any good and Weimann is a lower end championship forward. These are not players we should be looking at one jot ... clowns the lot of them.

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7 minutes ago, Redpool said:

To be honest Tone. I think the rot is set so bad we will be relegated next season regardless of Pearson in or out. We’ve been on a decline last 3 years and have failed to address the issue. Which has been the structure the club runs under the control of Ashton off the field and Johnson on the field. This all leads back to Lansdown. 

Ta daa!!!!!!

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Just now, Roadrunner said:

That was  a disgrace. Diedhiou, Wells should not have started. Both of you don't turn up for training again. You can't trap a ball, pass to one of your own players. You cant even be bothered.

Hunt, Palmer start looking for new clubs now.

Good effort from Semenyo, Massengo, Bakinson, Kalas and Bentley.

The rest of you if your contracts are up you are off at the end of the season.

I still think Nigel is the man for the job. If SL does not give him a chance then all the good work SL  has done will count for nothing.

SL and MA this is all your doing you should me ashamed of yourselves. Get rid of most of your best players just to show a profit and you end up with this mess. MA has had to much power over players and backroom staff.

Nagy shouldn't have started either, especially not where he played

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1 minute ago, Bodiesaffer said:

SL needs to get his ass over here, and sort it out fast. If NP has the job get it done now, so we can start letting the dead wood have a head start on there summer break.  

I thought SL had his ass over here.

1 minute ago, 054123 said:

Ta daa!!!!!!

Ta Mum !!!

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20 minutes ago, bcfcchampions2015 said:

Totally embarrassing how we will have to rely on Rotherham losing to stay up.  Utterly spineless, brainless bunch of individuals. 

WE ARE SAFE.

ffs.

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32 minutes ago, RobArnold10 said:

Palmer doesn’t deserve to play if he thinks that sort of thing is okay. Moronic handball 

That's  TWO utterly stupid handballs from Palmer this season......WTF is going on in his brain?   His contribution this season has been a goal from a corner and playing basketball in the penalty box.......Twice.  Ha!!  ?

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2 minutes ago, mozo said:

Nagy shouldn't have started either, especially not where he played

I thought nagy had been written off by pearson after dragging him off early a few games ago. 
 

yet another crap signing, there are so many being paid rediculous money who we just wont be able to shift.

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8 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

That was  a disgrace. Diedhiou, Wells should not have started. Both of you don't turn up for training again. You can't trap a ball, pass to one of your own players. You cant even be bothered.

Hunt, Palmer start looking for new clubs now.

Good effort from Semenyo, Massengo, Bakinson, Kalas and Bentley.

The rest of you if your contracts are up you are off at the end of the season.

I still think Nigel is the man for the job. If SL does not give him a chance then all the good work SL  has done will count for nothing.

SL and MA this is all your doing you should me ashamed of yourselves. Get rid of most of your best players just to show a profit and you end up with this mess. MA has had to much power over players and backroom staff.

FFP means that we like all clubs at this level can only spend/lose so much...FACT.

For balance, 14 or 15 players out injured atm- and on a wider note, the masses of injuries this season have been far from helpful.

Palmer- new club. Who will take him? Contract until 2023.

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7 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said:

Perhaps so, i didnt have the luxury of replays, but 2 punches went straight to their players, so did he need to punch both? Perhaps.....but could he of caught it & took the sting out of the attack? No idea, only watched it once, which is why i said “did he need to”

Well you did say **** from both (DB and KP).

Regardless given how well we defend set pieces and their aim to keep bombing our box, I’d much rather he punched (if done well obviously)then tried a more difficult catch under pressure.

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Fell asleep at half time. Woke up to this. Not surprised in the slightest. This squad of players are pathetic. I even struggle to remember a prolonged period off possession, let alone pressure. Wasters the lot of them. Really am past caring.

Can't wait to get back down the gate.....to watch the Rugby. ( SL will be happy, deluded fool) 

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3 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I honestly don't know how we are perceived at other clubs. And those clubs might ignore our injury crisis, look at our results at the begining of the season and feel a new manager ought to be doing better.

And given that this blot on Pearson's copy book means it is now four jobs since he was last an unqualified success, I'd say Pearson needs to make this work as much as we'd need him to make it work. 

remember how were performed at the start of the season, yes we won, but performances were poor then, we, so may wins we have got this season have been of the back of a stormer from Bents.  We are very lucky to be in the position we are in, from my memory the games we have deserved to win have amounted to 7 this season, the other wins we have got majorly lucky.  I can't believe we are staying up (if we do)  this has been one of our luckiest ever seasons. We should be down.  I know Fam and Wells get loads of abuse, a possibly legitimately (Personally I have never thought Wells was a striker, he has zero striker instinct from what I have seen, and then gets pushed out wide where e is even less effective)  but the service they get is woeful. A clear out may solve it, but I can't see a team full of strangers if we buy in more players are going to cut it, next season, I fully expect us to go down

 

If Pearson stays or goes I really do not have an opinion, but you you would expect either the defence would improve, hte attack would improve, intensity would improve or desire would improve.  just one of those areas you would expect to improve if a manager really had presence, unfortunately I have not seen one of those areas improve, yes Pearson may improve that with new recruits, but if he can't get the current squad to improve just one of these areas I think, you legitimately need to ask what the can do when buying players.. this honeymoon period is his selling point and it has spoken loudly.  if Lansdown hires him  I will be very surprised.

 

I think we have another 3 or 4 seasons at league 1 level coming very soon.

 

High performance facility my arse.  27000 seater stadium gonna look great with 10k in it, our once cauldron is going to look laughable and will certainly not help us if we do descend to league 1.

I am hoping we stay up next season, if we don't I see a decade or mote of struggle.  I am, not sure a reset is going to help with the league we are in.

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13 minutes ago, Swede said:

It's not his squad. He can't change a thing other than juggle with U23's and cope with a a crippling injury hit squad. People need to put a lid on it and get a reality check.

We badly need the season to end so we can start getting rid and rebuilding.

 

 

We lacked spirit, effort and urgency. 

It doesn't matter how many injuries, or the talent available, you should always expect to deliver that. 

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1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Still double figures in terms of injuries but that was poor.

Liked the Bakinson goal, well worked including Nagy assist...

What was Palmer doing- kinnell.

If we had Wycombe's fight and spirit- we'd be a lot better off.

If they had our crippling injuries I doubt that spirit would be there. We are struggling to cope and just limping/listing towards the end of the season. Mercifully there's only three games left. I for one cannot wait to see the back of this season.

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1 minute ago, Swede said:

If they had our crippling injuries I doubt that spirit would be there. We are struggling to cope and just limping/listing towards the end of the season. Mercifully there's only three games left. I for one cannot wait to see the back of this season.

That's a fair point, injuries like we've had would do for any side. However they seem to show real fight, surely punch above their weight- as a side down the bottom, these would be more disadvantaged with empty grounds.

We are stumbling, limping etc as you say towards the end of the season.

Was Holden just papering over some pretty big cracks until it went South? We had two mini Cup runs, we were in fact in outside playoff contention until January etc.

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3 minutes ago, steveybadger said:

Well you did say **** from both (DB and KP).

Regardless given how well we defend set pieces and their aim to keep bombing our box, I’d much rather he punched (if done well obviously)then tried a more difficult catch under pressure.

Yes, i did say **** from my first & only view of it, do you have a problem with that? If you do, i genuinely couldnt give a shite....either way we lost due to a stupid penalty against Wycombe

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Just popped out for an hour - did I miss anything? ?

93rd minute winner from Akinfenwa. Couldn't make it up!

I tell you, the decision on whether to renew the season tickets gets easier by the day.

Lansdown...you are running a basket-case of a club.

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