Admin phantom Posted July 6, 2022 Admin Share Posted July 6, 2022 Now signed David McGoldrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Davefevs said: Have they paid Lech their stage payment for Joswiak yet? Got some neck! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62048784 This is Derby, they're so special they don't have to pay their debts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 45 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Just signed Conor Hourihane That suggests the EFL have been pretty generous with their business plan. If that proves to be the case other League 1 clubs who pay their bills will not be best pleased. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Worrying how much the wages of all these players will be even if they are out of administration and have a new owner. Assume the league 1 version of FFP and big attendances will allow Derby to spend big at that level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Worrying how much the wages of all these players will be even if they are out of administration and have a new owner. Assume the league 1 version of FFP and big attendances will allow Derby to spend big at that level. Surely an EFL Business Plan on exit of administration- remember the moral hazard element of cutting debts- supersedes the usual 60% or whatever it is. If it was a normal club relegated in normal circumstances I'd agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherDerbyFan Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 It's almost as if Derby won't have higher revenue than half of the Championship next season despite being a league below and without the TV money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Ram Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 A week's a long time in football so heaven knows what you'd call the gap since the last time I was on here - and it wasn't really that long ago. Relief is the overwhelming feeling this end. Despite misgivings about CK's ability to do the deal the whole time I finally became convinced and then his money vanished. Think we dodged a huge bullet. One day - NDAs permitting - everything may come out in the wash. Did CK take Rooney, Cook, Stretford in? Was he the puppet for those/someone else? Did he ever get back the money he tried to transfer or is it lost forever amongst laundering checks and he's turned a spotlight onto himself? Was WRs resignation at all linked? Clowes has come along like the proverbial knight in shining armour. A genuine fan as opposed to MM and someone you'd frequently see at away games acting as a fan. Early words from him are encouraging and I believe he stepped in to save the club and run it sustainably for a period of time and once on an even keel look to sell it on. I only hope he doesn't get seduced by being a fan into chasing a dream. The great unknown now is how much he paid overall, in particular to HMRC. It doesn't make conversations about how we're signing players/what the business plan irrelevant - but it becomes impossible to have anything other than a hypothetical conversation.... if we haven't paid x back is it right - no; but what have we paid back - don't know. No one can say with certainty that we now have a competitive advantage v other clubs regarding tax, equally no one can say we don't. Find it hard to believe we've paid HMRC everything / have a plan to.....but also the business plan has been approved remarkably quickly, not a muttering of dissent from HMRC, and places reporting what Clowes has paid being astronomical if we haven't. Season tickets on sale today and early transfer business encouraging (with the caveat of no one knowing what has/hasn't been repaid). Its nice to have some semblance of normality and typical pre-season hope. Roll of July 30th for that to go flying out the window. Good luck to City for the upcoming season - always keen to see Chrissy Martin do well. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Derby_Ram said: The great unknown now is how much he paid overall, in particular to HMRC. It doesn't make conversations about how we're signing players/what the business plan irrelevant - but it becomes impossible to have anything other than a hypothetical conversation.... if we haven't paid x back is it right - no; but what have we paid back - don't know. No one can say with certainty that we now have a competitive advantage v other clubs regarding tax, equally no one can say we don't. Kieran Maguire's info is that Clowes paid between £60m and £65m in total with £22m being for the stadium. On the surface that is an extraordinary amount that massively over values the club. It could mean that creditors will be paid more than expected, though presumably not the full amount owed. If he has paid significantly more than the minimum required by the EFL insolvency policy it would actually be good PR to say so and a step on the way to rebuilding the club's reputation. He's certainly going to be asked some tough questions by other club owners so he might as well start to improve relationships asap. Anyway, now the club has been saved a degree of humility from the club and its fans would be a good idea. I exclude you from that of course, your contribution to this thread has always been reasonable and welcome. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, AnotherDerbyFan said: It's almost as if Derby won't have higher revenue than half of the Championship next season despite being a league below and without the TV money. Totally fair point in normal circs- but being relieved of debt obligations brings with it extra restrictions to reflect this. OTOH if Clowes as per Kieran Maguire has paid what was stated- £60-65m minus the £22m for the ground then that is good and as @chinapigsaid might not be a bad idea if the club said so. Oh yeah on the salary and turnover thing- depends doesn't it if it's a total cap across the squad or an average or some combination of the two- the restrictions for new signings last year were £4.5k per week for Derby and £8.5k I think per week for Reading (IIRC). Edited July 6, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Derby and Embargo- and then there were 4! HMRC remains on there, two accounting reasons remain on there and the bit about non submission being a P&S rule breach remain on there but the in administration has now been removed- largely because they are out of administration. Would have thought the accounting ones would be resolved as part of the takeover ie actual full on submission and the reasons therefore removed at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Derby and Embargo- and then there were 4! HMRC remains on there, two accounting reasons remain on there and the bit about non submission being a P&S rule breach remain on there but the in administration has now been removed- largely because they are out of administration. Would have thought the accounting ones would be resolved as part of the takeover ie actual full on submission and the reasons therefore removed at the same time. Showing blank on the webpage I looked at. Ignore me…they aren’t in the championship anymore are they 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 06/07/2022 at 12:31, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Just signed Conor Hourihane Surprised he’s gone down to league one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Ram Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 06/07/2022 at 18:06, Mr Popodopolous said: Derby and Embargo- and then there were 4! HMRC remains on there, two accounting reasons remain on there and the bit about non submission being a P&S rule breach remain on there but the in administration has now been removed- largely because they are out of administration. Would have thought the accounting ones would be resolved as part of the takeover ie actual full on submission and the reasons therefore removed at the same time. where are you seeing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Derby_Ram said: where are you seeing this? Looks like they’ve updated in the last 24-48 hours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrieowl Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, eardun said: Surprised he’s gone down to league one. Suspect it was due to location Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrieowl Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I know Mr P has had his issues over Wednesday and rightly so, some points we will never agree on but given we had an embargo over late wages last year I find how Derby have recruited to be truly wrong. They look capable of challenging rather than struggle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherDerbyFan Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Barrieowl said: I know Mr P has had his issues over Wednesday and rightly so, some points we will never agree on but given we had an embargo over late wages last year I find how Derby have recruited to be truly wrong. They look capable of challenging rather than struggle. Last time I checked, the terms for exiting administration are not "must struggle". Wigan exited administration in March 2021, yet I didn't see a single person saying it's not fair because they didn't struggle (winning the league instead) We also paid wages on time every month last season and have now completed our term under embargo (for P&S reasons and administration). All of our signings are within the business plan as agreed with the EFL. A week ago we only had 5 'senior' players contracted to the club, so it's not as if signings weren't expected. All for free too, unlike Wigan, who spent over £600k on a single player. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Now that Derby are up and running, what happens to things like submitting prior year accounts with Companies House, and P&S submissions to EFL. Derby will have to have submitted their 22/23 projections by Mid/end June and must comply with: It would be great if there was transparency re any injections, although in Derby’s case, their income is likely to be one of the higher ones in Lg1, so achieving 75% on wages might be not too bad to achieve. League One is going to be crazy (again) this year. Wednesday have recruited ever so well, Peterborough will be no mugs, together with Ipswich (stifled recruitment this summer), Charlton (recruited well), etc, etc. Only three spots up for grabs, one or two are gonna feel the pinch next summer if they don’t get up this time around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 19 hours ago, Derby_Ram said: where are you seeing this? Sorry was a bit behind on things- all of it cleared now though I'd query at least the clearance of 16.3 given no accounts in the public domain. 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: Now that Derby are up and running, what happens to things like submitting prior year accounts with Companies House, and P&S submissions to EFL. Derby will have to have submitted their 22/23 projections by Mid/end June and must comply with: It would be great if there was transparency re any injections, although in Derby’s case, their income is likely to be one of the higher ones in Lg1, so achieving 75% on wages might be not too bad to achieve. League One is going to be crazy (again) this year. Wednesday have recruited ever so well, Peterborough will be no mugs, together with Ipswich (stifled recruitment this summer), Charlton (recruited well), etc, etc. Only three spots up for grabs, one or two are gonna feel the pinch next summer if they don’t get up this time around. Matt Hughes has suggested that as part of the post exit Business Plan, Derby will be restricted to £8m on player wages! If that's true and accurate, I no longer have any argument- seems that Clowes has paid creditors more than they can reasonably expect and the extra handicap for some debt avoidance has kicked in with the £8m thing. Yes think it'll be a competitive League. Think Bolton on an upward curve still, games like Accrington and Fleetwood away in the wind and rain in winter always a challenge, perhaps Cambridge and Cheltenham too- Wycombe have their unique style of play another challenge, Oxford, Portsmouth- good sides. Barnsley are seasoned yoyoers in recent times although losing Morris AND Woodrow- they'll have a tougher time than usual IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Matt Hughes has suggested that as part of the post exit Business Plan, Derby will be restricted to £8m on player wages! If that's true and accurate, I no longer have any argument- seems that Clowes has paid creditors more than they can reasonably expect and the extra handicap for some debt avoidance has kicked in with the £8m thing. Ta, you got a link for that…would be good if EFL published the restrictions like they have with Reading, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Davefevs said: Ta, you got a link for that…would be good if EFL published the restrictions like they have with Reading, etc. His Ahead of the Game column. Yep restrictions published as with Derby themselves and Reading would be good. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10996387/AHEAD-GAME-EFL-fury-BBCs-20m-Champions-League-TV-deal.html They were restricted to about £15m IIRC from the Agreed Decision but Matt Hughes settles on £12m- maybe that's solely for players, I remember Reading were £21m or so last season and down to £16m for this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: His Ahead of the Game column. Yep restrictions published as with Derby themselves and Reading would be good. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10996387/AHEAD-GAME-EFL-fury-BBCs-20m-Champions-League-TV-deal.html They were restricted to about £15m IIRC from the Agreed Decision but Matt Hughes settles on £12m- maybe that's solely for players, I remember Reading were £21m or so last season and down to £16m for this season. How much of a restriction that is depends on what the average wage bill is in League 1. It would be interesting to compare with Ipswich. Especially as Ashton was telling fans who wanted yet more signings that they should have a look at their wage bill. The size of which has nothing to do with him of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, chinapig said: How much of a restriction that is depends on what the average wage bill is in League 1. It would be interesting to compare with Ipswich. Especially as Ashton was telling fans who wanted yet more signings that they should have a look at their wage bill. The size of which has nothing to do with him of course. Be interesting to know if by “wage bill” they mean players as is the case for Lg1 SCMP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: Now that Derby are up and running, what happens to things like submitting prior year accounts with Companies House, and P&S submissions to EFL. Derby will have to have submitted their 22/23 projections by Mid/end June and must comply with: It would be great if there was transparency re any injections, although in Derby’s case, their income is likely to be one of the higher ones in Lg1, so achieving 75% on wages might be not too bad to achieve. League One is going to be crazy (again) this year. Wednesday have recruited ever so well, Peterborough will be no mugs, together with Ipswich (stifled recruitment this summer), Charlton (recruited well), etc, etc. Only three spots up for grabs, one or two are gonna feel the pinch next summer if they don’t get up this time around. And don't forget the "mighty" Gas who, with their incredible fan base, will no doubt be storming L1 this season. Ipswich, Wednesday, Derby, Pompey etc, be very afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherDerbyFan Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 13 hours ago, Davefevs said: Now that Derby are up and running, what happens to things like submitting prior year accounts with Companies House, and P&S submissions to EFL. What did Wigan do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherDerbyFan Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: His Ahead of the Game column. Yep restrictions published as with Derby themselves and Reading would be good. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10996387/AHEAD-GAME-EFL-fury-BBCs-20m-Champions-League-TV-deal.html They were restricted to about £15m IIRC from the Agreed Decision but Matt Hughes settles on £12m- maybe that's solely for players, I remember Reading were £21m or so last season and down to £16m for this season. For what it's worth, the 'wage bill' during the first 8 weeks of admin worked out as £14m over the season. A good £2-2.5m must have been knocked off in January. Reports suggested wages of about £1.6m needed to be paid in May and June (£19.2m per season) I'm guessing Matt Hughes' £8m is just players. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, AnotherDerbyFan said: What did Wigan do? Dunno, what did they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherDerbyFan Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: Dunno, what did they do? Went into administration in July 2020 and exited in March 2021. Last set of accounts prior to entering was for the 18/19 season (March 2020) In March 2022, the new owners (Phoenix 2021 Limited) released a partial 20/21 set of accounts. 19/20 accounts were never submitted to Companies House. Full year for 20/21 have not been submitted either. P&S submission will have been submitted to the EFL for all relevant periods. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, AnotherDerbyFan said: Went into administration in July 2020 and exited in March 2021. Last set of accounts prior to entering was for the 18/19 season (March 2020) In March 2022, the new owners (Phoenix 2021 Limited) released a partial 20/21 set of accounts. 19/20 accounts were never submitted to Companies House. Full year for 20/21 have not been submitted either. P&S submission will have been submitted to the EFL for all relevant periods. So, Clowes will have to do at least the same then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 13 hours ago, AnotherDerbyFan said: For what it's worth, the 'wage bill' during the first 8 weeks of admin worked out as £14m over the season. A good £2-2.5m must have been knocked off in January. Reports suggested wages of about £1.6m needed to be paid in May and June (£19.2m per season) I'm guessing Matt Hughes' £8m is just players. I'm assuming just players too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atyeo's lift Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 And WR's off to another DC bunch of losers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, Atyeo's lift said: And WR's off to another DC bunch of losers Of course nobody would suggest that loyal Wayne was negotiating this at least as soon as it became clear his mate Kirchner was, let's say, not entirely honourable. Though to most of us that was obvious all along. He would never con gullible Derby fans in that way. Would he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, chinapig said: Of course nobody would suggest that loyal Wayne was negotiating this at least as soon as it became clear his mate Kirchner was, let's say, not entirely honourable. Though to most of us that was obvious all along. He would never con gullible Derby fans in that way. Would he? In fairness to WR, it could be that, as the new owners have to reduce the wage bill by 33%, his rumoured £90k pw wages are unaffordable if they are to stay within the EFL business plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, downendcity said: In fairness to WR, it could be that, as the new owners have to reduce the wage bill by 33%, his rumoured £90k pw wages are unaffordable if they are to stay within the EFL business plan. Except that he said he resigned on the grounds that he needed a break and an opportunity to study. Also that he thought the club would benefit from a new manager. Not much of a break and not much studying it turns out. If his motivation was to relieve the club of his wages why was he backing the Kirchner takeover (in which his agent Stretford was involved)? That regime wouldn't have been able to afford him either. So suggesting him resigning was an act of charity seems generous. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 11/07/2022 at 12:40, chinapig said: If his motivation was to relieve the club of his wages why was he backing the Kirchner takeover (in which his agent Stretford was involved)? That regime wouldn't have been able to afford him either. So suggesting him resigning was an act of charity seems generous. Listening to Kieran Maguire this morning it seems DC are paying Rooney something like £865k a year. According to KM's information Kirchner offered him more than that to sign a three year contract at Derby. Madness. It appears also that Stretford is looking to serve legal papers on Kirchner but can't find him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Two more signings, James Collins (CF) from Cardiff and Scott Loach (GK) from Chesterfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Two more signings, James Collins (CF) from Cardiff and Scott Loach (GK) from Chesterfield. Collins is a good signing for that level, Can see derby in the playoffs at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 So back to the financials. The old companies in the 'football group' have all been renamed pending a CVA and or liquidation. The 'Golden Share' and the other assets have been transferred to Derby County (The Rams) Limited (the new Football Club), a company owned by Clowes Developments (UK) Limited ("CDUK"), a company owned by a Discretionary Trust. CDUK has invested £500,000 in share capital into the Football Club, any other financing will be way of loan. Gellaw Newco 202 Ltd, which directly owns the ground, was also acquired by CDUK, my best guess is for £1, but with MSD loans remaining in place, leaving Morris free of that debt. The old 'Stadium Group', including Gellaw Newco 202, has been released from the MSD charges, so this suggests that the MSD finance has been replaced by a loan from CDUK. We will find out shortly what CDUK paid into the companies in Administration. However even with a reduced players payroll of £8 million it still looks like a significant input in cash from CDUK every year. That Category 1 Academy is looking like an expensive white elephant. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Ram Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Thoughts on Korey Smith who looks like being next through the door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Derby_Ram said: Thoughts on Korey Smith who looks like being next through the door? Did well for us, had a couple of significant spells out due to injury, but a good captain and player. Think LJ signed him from Oldham originally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Derby_Ram said: Thoughts on Korey Smith who looks like being next through the door? Quite a few on here would be more than happy if we re signed him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Did well for us, had a couple of significant spells out due to injury, but a good captain and player. Think LJ signed him from Oldham originally. Cotterill signing. The heartbeat of the double squad. Edited July 15, 2022 by glynriley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, glynriley said: Cotterill signing. The heartbeat of the double squad. Makes sense. Not sure why I thought LJ signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 15, 2022 Admin Share Posted July 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Makes sense. Not sure why I thought LJ signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 49 minutes ago, Derby_Ram said: Thoughts on Korey Smith who looks like being next through the door? He doesn't score many, but when he does..... https://youtu.be/IYoaq6EbdT0 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 49 minutes ago, Derby_Ram said: Thoughts on Korey Smith who looks like being next through the door? Oh Korey no. Not you as well. One of my favourites from our 2014/15 double winning League 1 super team. Had his injury issues in recent years but I believe when he left us for Swansea he was our longest serving active player. Also bagged the last minute winner in our League Cup QF v Man Utd in 2017. He's a legend, and it's a shame he's having to lower himself to this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Ram Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Cheers all. Mixed emotions as sounds the type of player we are missing from the current midfielders but we'll now have a surplus and seems certain that at least one but probably two of Bird/Knight/Sibley will leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 I’m mixed on this. Swansea was bad enough, but effing Derby!!! only joking, good luck Korey, lovely player, lovely bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 There was a documentary on Derby's plight on the Al Jazeera news channel last night. I caught it by accident when changing channels. They reckon that Derby could end up with an advantage over other clubs in a similar financial state when an agreement is reached with the EFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 56 minutes ago, Derby_Ram said: Cheers all. Mixed emotions as sounds the type of player we are missing from the current midfielders but we'll now have a surplus and seems certain that at least one but probably two of Bird/Knight/Sibley will leave. Oh yeah, I think he once kicked a teabag in to a mug. Class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: Makes sense. Not sure why I thought LJ signed him. LJ liked to mention he knew what a good plyer Korey was because 'I took him to Oldham', or 'I signed hime when I was at Oldham'. By the time he'd mentioned it 20 times all you remember was LJ signed KS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Summer activity, following Korey’s announcement this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 TBF, they’ve signed some decent players - will have a decent chance of promotion this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Summer activity, following Korey’s announcement this morning. Scott Loach gives off serious Rene Gilmartin vibes but a lot of players there who if they stay fit (a lot are well into their 30s) should be very effective at League One level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: TBF, they’ve signed some decent players - will have a decent chance of promotion this season They’re fighting for second place. Slags will surely be champions by Christmas - their amazing support will ensure that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Loosey Boy said: TBF, they’ve signed some decent players - will have a decent chance of promotion this season They will be (yet) another team in the mix. Another team to threaten MAIT’s guaranteed promotion to satisfy the Arkansas Chuggabug pension fund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Ram Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Summer activity, following Korey’s announcement this morning. Just missing Kwaku Oduroh - 19 year old right back from Man City on your players in list. Appears to be Byrne's replacement 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Scott Loach gives off serious Rene Gilmartin vibes but a lot of players there who if they stay fit (a lot are well into their 30s) should be very effective at League One level. Loach is a fairly local to Derby and has been brought in as 3rd choice keeper and to kick start his coaching career. Sure he's a lovely bloke but hope I never get to see him play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Derby_Ram said: Just missing Kwaku Oduroh - 19 year old right back from Man City on your players in list. Appears to be Byrne's replacement Loach is a fairly local to Derby and has been brought in as 3rd choice keeper and to kick start his coaching career. Sure he's a lovely bloke but hope I never get to see him play. Mmmm, bizarre, he’s in my data but not pulling into my pivot. edit: sorted, had “TFR Free” unchecked. Ta. Edited July 16, 2022 by Davefevs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Mmmm, bizarre, he’s in my data but not pulling into my pivot. You'd go down a storm on Love Island Dave, you smooth talking rogue.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Just now, Port Said Red said: You'd go down a storm on Love Island Dave, you smooth talking rogue.... the radio version, maybe!!, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Just signed korey smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Banjo Red said: Just signed korey smith https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/breaking-derby-transfer-korey-smith-7340062 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 The following Court case in respect of a 'Cross-Class Cram-Down' and HMRC's position as a secondary preferential creditor is worth a read. Houst Ltd, Re [2022] EWHC 1941 (Ch) (22 July 2022) (bailii.org) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 para 45...the companies difficulties seem to be as a result of the pandemic.......really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Bielik is apparently looking to move and in advanced talks with someone - Brum? Seems to fit what we need, but has been injured a lot. Any good for us? I genuinely don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Leveller said: Bielik is apparently looking to move and in advanced talks with someone - Brum? Seems to fit what we need, but has been injured a lot. Any good for us? I genuinely don’t know. Watford interested too. This won’t be a cheap loan, Derby paid big money…and still owe Arsenal instalments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62986370 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 53 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Warne deserves a chance at a bigger club….shame if it’s Derby. Would be a blow for Rotherham. Really like Warne, always in my mind for a job here. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62986370 I really like Paul Warne and think he’s done a fantastic job at Rotherham. I hope he doesn’t go to Derby or Cardiff though because I’d be duty bound to wish to see him fail. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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