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I personally think this could go either way for the g*s. 

What happens with them doesn't really bother me either. What did bother me yesterday though was the brain dead dullard that kept using the take over of the g*s as an excuse to shout/sing racist slurs about it all afternoon. I've met some thick people in my time but you sir were right up there with the thickest. Very very poorly educated man.

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Have you not heard the family worth 100 billion. Richer than the richest man on earth. 

http://gaschat.co.uk/thread/5999/sorry-on-bonfire?page=3

Wait until the clowns realise this guy is worth £20 million and the family around £130million, more likely to feature on the Fraud list than the Forbes rich list. :clapping:

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11 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said:

Have you not heard the family worth 100 billion. Richer than the richest man on earth. 

http://gaschat.co.uk/thread/5999/sorry-on-bonfire?page=3

Wait until the clowns realise this guy is worth 20 million and should be on the Fraud list not the Forbes rich list. :clapping:

It's impressive that some Larry from Horfield can find out but Forbes are totally unaware. 

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:static

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7 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

It's impressive that some Larry from Horfield can find out but Forbes are totally unaware. 

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:static

Surely the 3rd richest family in the world would feature in the world's richest families list. Can't seem to find them.

http://www.msn.com/en-in/money/financephotos/the-world’s-richest-families-revealed/ss-BBmRgsr#image=1

Must be a mystery.:clapping:

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43 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said:

Have you not heard the family worth 100 billion. Richer than the richest man on earth. 

http://gaschat.co.uk/thread/5999/sorry-on-bonfire?page=3

Wait until the clowns realise this guy is worth £20 million and the family around £130million, more likely to feature on the Fraud list than the Forbes rich list. :clapping:

If that does happen Rovers new chairman will be able to help.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/former-swansea-city-chairman-helps-6200850

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15 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said:

lots of figures thrown around. Does anyone know the actual net worth?

 

A lot of the Blue Few are confusing the capitalisation of the banks which the al-Qadi's are part (note that word) owners of, with the worth of the family as a whole.  As we know, banks' money belongs to investors and savers not the business per se and is capitalised at typically 20x the value of deposits. 

I'm sure they are wealthy enough to write off the Gas debts, underwrite continuing losses and possibly build the UWE bowl with no sale required.  They will want a return eventually however. They are not in the "throwing money continuously at a club" league.

Were I a [shudder to think] R****s fan, I would be worrying about when that payback will be required. 

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18 minutes ago, Tomarse said:

I'm surprised nobody has sought to find out exactly what they are worth... Surely someone at the WDP/BP should be investigating it.. 

Do you think they`re really interested in shattering the illusion that they`ve helped to create since Friday though. An awful lot of media `personalities` will look pretty stupid when the actual figures do come out.

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1 minute ago, Reddie The Eagle Edwards said:

crazy how all the gas scum have just accepted this bizarre rumour that the family have catapulted them into the top 6 richest clubs in the country.  There is no evidence of any such wealth but the media have also just accepted this. If they are that rich why would they want to buy gillingham or rovers?! None of this makes any sense

It's absolutely outrageous... They seem blind to all the facts and continue to bang on about how ridiculously rich they now are...

 I can't quite get my head around the whole deal and something just doesn't seem right, why would anyone buy Rovers When there's a plethora of better clubs to chose from at that level?

 It's gonna go tits up I'm sure if it!!!

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 Worse case scenario they own the mem and a football team to manage, best case, they get a nice new stadium, with multiple income options in a great location with a big and growing catchment area. So it was probably a good deal... i'd have done it myself if that scratch card this morning would had been more than £5

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3 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said:

It's absolutely outrageous... They seem blind to all the facts and continue to bang on about how ridiculously rich they now are...

 I can't quite get my head around the whole deal and something just doesn't seem right, why would anyone buy Rovers When there's a plethora of better clubs to chose from at that level?

 It's gonna go tits up I'm sure if it!!!

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Didnt even no the mangos were for sale:juggle:

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34 minutes ago, Reddie The Eagle Edwards said:

crazy how all the gas scum have just accepted this bizarre rumour that the family have catapulted them into the top 6 richest clubs in the country.  There is no evidence of any such wealth but the media have also just accepted this. If they are that rich why would they want to buy gillingham or rovers?! None of this makes any sense

A lot of us are being more realistic as to the family's wealth.

Yeah, they are not billionaires, but they've got a bob or two. I'm still a bit uneasy about all this, but at least the guy is not talking about premiership in x years etc etc, so will keep my fingers crossed that his lack of wealth means that he will cut his cloth accordingly with regards to the way the club is run.

I'm more concerned about the Chairman's history tbh.

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3 hours ago, Taylor10 said:

 

If Rovers owners are worth 1.8 billion and more why don't they just get on and build the UWE stadium, nothing is stopping them. The legal case with sainsbury is about the sell of the Mem not the build at UWE.  The mem is still an asset and could be sold for development at any time in the future.

Yet they are still waiting on the outcome of the High court case. Again these facts seem to be ignore by the gas heads who are at the momment are all in some sort of collective hystria and have lost all control of rational thinking. But then again they have always been a bunch of deluded pr1cks.

 

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1 hour ago, Tomarse said:

I'm surprised nobody has sought to find out exactly what they are worth... Surely someone at the WDP/BP should be investigating it.. 

They've gone with billionaire (probably because some G*s on their forum said it's true. 

He also apparently said he was now 100% with Bristol Rovers. But he couldn't wait to get along to Stamford Bridge.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Mem-Stamford-Bridge-New-Bristol-Rovers-owner-Wael/story-28779181-detail/story.html

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Well I certainly know that if I was one of the richest men in the world with over a hundred billion then my biggest dream would be to become the owner of Bristol Rovers FC.

Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Richard Branson will be crying themselves to sleep for weeks having been beaten to this glittering golden prize.

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2 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

They've gone with billionaire (probably because some G*s on their forum said it's true. 

He also apparently said he was now 100% with Bristol Rovers. But he couldn't wait to get along to Stamford Bridge.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Mem-Stamford-Bridge-New-Bristol-Rovers-owner-Wael/story-28779181-detail/story.html

A true blue

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31 minutes ago, bs3 said:

If Rovers owners are worth 1.8 billion and more why don't they just get on and build the UWE stadium, nothing is stopping them. The legal case with sainsbury is about the sell of the Mem not the build at UWE.  The mem is still an asset and could be sold for development at any time in the future.

Yet they are still waiting on the outcome of the High court case. Again these facts seem to be ignore by the gas heads who are at the momment are all in some sort of collective hystria and have lost all control of rational thinking. But then again they have always been a bunch of deluded pr1cks.

 

They arent building it straight off as they want to renegotiate the deal with UWE i suspect.

 

Previously we had no money and sale/leaseback of land and naming rights with UWE were required to finance the stadium.

I imagine Mr.Al-Qadi will want to be able to sell naming rights to whom he wants or name it the AJIB stadium an d pay Rovers creating Revenue.

 

There is also other land there with PP for Hotel etc that they are probably interested in

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4 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

And another thing!

I have a small number of shares in various different banks and financial institutions. This makes me a minority share holder.

Thanks to 'Gas Logic and Accountancy' I wake up this morning and I'm suddenly a multi billionaire! 

God bless the assets under management at companies various. I didn't realise until earlier that the monies these companies control was actually all mine. 

Not just a multi-billionaire, the richest man on the planet ;)

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7 minutes ago, Hello said:

They arent building it straight off as they want to renegotiate the deal with UWE i suspect.

 

Previously we had no money and sale/leaseback of land and naming rights with UWE were required to finance the stadium.

I imagine Mr.Al-Qadi will want to be able to sell naming rights to whom he wants or name it the AJIB stadium an d pay Rovers creating Revenue.

 

There is also other land there with PP for Hotel etc that they are probably interested in

I can't imagine that UWE wouldn't be happy selling the land, especially as it's prime university real estate for future university development.

You've only got to look how UWE took over HP and built up its campus since the 90's to see how fast they're expanding. I don't think they'd give up the stadium footprint that easliy.

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12 minutes ago, Hello said:

They arent building it straight off as they want to renegotiate the deal with UWE i suspect.

 

Previously we had no money and sale/leaseback of land and naming rights with UWE were required to finance the stadium.

I imagine Mr.Al-Qadi will want to be able to sell naming rights to whom he wants or name it the AJIB stadium an d pay Rovers creating Revenue.

 

There is also other land there with PP for Hotel etc that they are probably interested in

Delusional... Even the press are at it, it's hilarious to be honest!!

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19 minutes ago, Hello said:

They arent building it straight off as they want to renegotiate the deal with UWE i suspect.

 

Previously we had no money and sale/leaseback of land and naming rights with UWE were required to finance the stadium.

I imagine Mr.Al-Qadi will want to be able to sell naming rights to whom he wants or name it the AJIB stadium an d pay Rovers creating Revenue.

 

There is also other land there with PP for Hotel etc that they are probably interested in

 

UWE won't sell the land, they aren't stupid. They want joint sports facilities, gym etc with campus shops and a stadium to hosts events/sport in - they asked Rovers to come in on the project to share costs, and give you guys a home, you pay rent and have a share of stadium income... win, win for you and UWE. Your owners don't have the money to buy the land, and why would a Jordanian bank (that your owners family have a 36% stake in) agree to buy naming rights ? I imagine UWE will look elsewhere if you are not interested, I know that they have thought about a indoor athletic stadium with a aim of getting competitions bought to Bristol as well as providing all the facilities they wanted for thier campus/students..... who knows maybe SL and Bristol Sport might get in on that as we need a Athletic stadium in Bristol and it's something on Bristol Sports radar I am sure.

 

Rovers are not the only people who can give UWE what they want.

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15 minutes ago, Hello said:

They arent building it straight off as they want to renegotiate the deal with UWE i suspect.

 

Previously we had no money and sale/leaseback of land and naming rights with UWE were required to finance the stadium.

I imagine Mr.Al-Qadi will want to be able to sell naming rights to whom he wants or name it the AJIB stadium an d pay Rovers creating Revenue.

 

There is also other land there with PP for Hotel etc that they are probably interested in

I know for a fact HP is mothballing the site and still selling parts of it off to UWE, UWE will not sell the footprint as they need the car parking space and use of any facilities and classroom space, where is this other land for the hotel, I have not seen this in any plans?

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Interesting quote at the bottom of this atrticle Or am I reading too much into it?

"We know that this club needs and requires a new stadium in order for this ownership to continue and to survive and flourish."

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17 minutes ago, Hello said:

They arent building it straight off as they want to renegotiate the deal with UWE i suspect.

 

Previously we had no money and sale/leaseback of land and naming rights with UWE were required to finance the stadium.

I imagine Mr.Al-Qadi will want to be able to sell naming rights to whom he wants or name it the AJIB stadium an d pay Rovers creating Revenue.

 

There is also other land there with PP for Hotel etc that they are probably interested in

So UWE are willing to sell off their land are they , so whats in it for UWE apart from a quick buck.

I also thought that UWE staduim was a unique partnership between football club and Univeristy  and that what made it special and more than just another staduim not my words but your fans on Radio Bristol. 

Again you have shown to have no ethics and are deluded in thinking UWE will just sale to you after all they have invested into the project.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, bs3 said:

So UWE are willing to sell off their land are they , so whats in it for UWE apart from a quick buck.

I also thought that UWE staduim was a unique partnership between football club and Univeristy  and that what made it special and more than just another staduim not my words but your fans on Radio Bristol. 

Again you have shown to have no ethics and are deluded in thinking UWE will just sale to you after all they have invested into the project.

 

 

 

Don't UWE own all the Watershed and a lot of the harbour side land and buildings ? I have no idea how they came into ownership but anyway, they are not short of a bob or two.

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I am not suggesting that UWE will give up or sell the land, just that i imagine the Al-Qadis as business people money men will explore all opportunities.

 

As the deal stands the UWE name creates no revenue other than to build the ground when Rovers didnt have any cash and needed Sainsburys.

 

Now we can finance the project either through personal wealth or acees to investors being in that field and thus any naming rights be it AJIB or Joe Bloggs trading would create reveune for the club FFP and all that

 

There is other land out there to be developed. Whether The Al Qadis can get in on that i dont know but surey as investment bankers and Hoteliers they would be foolish to not enquire.

 

Maybe nothing will come of it but i would argue they have the responsibility to eye it up

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2 minutes ago, Fiale said:

Don't UWE own all the Watershed and a lot of the harbour side land and buildings ? I have no idea how they came into ownership but anyway, they are not short of a bob or two.

I would imagine it would need to be an exceptional amount of money offered for UWE to sell the land. Does anyone know how much spare capital Al-Gash have? 

I doubt anyone from the reds or the blues know, just the owners themselves. Still, be interesting to see if they're willing to put a real marker down to state their intentions.

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6 minutes ago, bs3 said:

So UWE are willing to sell off their land are they , so whats in it for UWE apart from a quick buck.

I also thought that UWE staduim was a unique partnership between football club and Univeristy  and that what made it special and more than just another staduim not my words but your fans on Radio Bristol. 

Again you have shown to have no ethics and are deluded in thinking UWE will just sale to you after all they have invested into the project.

 

 

 

I didnt say they would just sell it did I, only that i suspect they would want to look into the possibilities. They would be foolish not to and.poor businessmen.

 

They might not be able to.do a deal but surely must try

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8 minutes ago, Hello said:

I am not suggesting that UWE will give up or sell the land, just that i imagine the Al-Qadis as business people money men will explore all opportunities.

 

As the deal stands the UWE name creates no revenue other than to build the ground when Rovers didnt have any cash and needed Sainsburys.

 

Now we can finance the project either through personal wealth or acees to investors being in that field and thus any naming rights be it AJIB or Joe Bloggs trading would create reveune for the club FFP and all that

 

There is other land out there to be developed. Whether The Al Qadis can get in on that i dont know but surey as investment bankers and Hoteliers they would be foolish to not enquire.

 

Maybe nothing will come of it but i would argue they have the responsibility to eye it up

If you owner was has wealthy as you suggest why would you need to sale naming rights. We still play at Ashton Gate , could have sold naming rights years ago but  we never sold out.

The supporters of this club and owner have a heart and soul something you numptys have never really had .

 

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3 minutes ago, Hello said:

I didnt say they would just sell it did I, only that i suspect they would want to look into the possibilities. They would be foolish not to and.poor businessmen.

 

They might not be able to.do a deal but surely must try

They can try, would be foolish not to, but a lot of Rovers fans seem to think UWE needs Rovers more than Rovers needs UWE - I understand they are excited to get rid of the potential of administration if Higgs failed in the Sainsbury's case and lost the Mem due to loans being set against it, but they seem to have gotten a little carried away. 

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4 minutes ago, bs3 said:

If you owner was has wealthy as you suggest why would you need to sale naming rights. We still play at Ashton Gate , could have sold naming rights years ago but  we never sold out.

The supporters of this club and owner have a heart and soul something you numptys have never really had .

 

What are you on about. Look around. fair play not selling the Ashton Gate name, but it is a way to create revenue for the club to spend and you know full well the cost of football as your own owner has financed plenty. That Carling Ateyo bloke you had was a good player wasnt he, or is that a great way to honour him when you have a billionaire sticking a cheap lager before his name?

 

As for not having a heart, i would argue we had plenty giving we were homeless for 20 years and survived and even out peformed you lot when we had even less than no pot to piss in

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7 minutes ago, Fiale said:

They can try, would be foolish not to, but a lot of Rovers fans seem to think UWE needs Rovers more than Rovers needs UWE - I understand they are excited to get rid of the potential of administration if Higgs failed in the Sainsbury's case and lost the Mem due to loans being set against it, but they seem to have gotten a little carried away. 

I agree there needs to be some realism. The excitement of the past couple of days has caused some hysteria for sure. The weeks and months to come will hopefully shake things out and ground some people

 

At leas Mr Al Qadi isnt shouting from the roof tops

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11 minutes ago, bs3 said:

We still play at Ashton Gate , could have sold naming rights years ago but  we never sold out.

 

Hold your horses there mate, I'm not suggesting that Lansdown will definitely go down that route BUT he is a businessman. The 'new' Ashton Gate with football and rugby could become a more attractive proposition for any large company prepared to part with big money to have their name attached to a stadium. Not saying I think it will happen but you never know...

Hopefully it'll never happen but if it did, people would still call it Ashton Gate anyway.

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19 minutes ago, Hello said:

I am not suggesting that UWE will give up or sell the land, just that i imagine the Al-Qadis as business people money men will explore all opportunities.

 

As the deal stands the UWE name creates no revenue other than to build the ground when Rovers didnt have any cash and needed Sainsburys.

 

Now we can finance the project either through personal wealth or acees to investors being in that field and thus any naming rights be it AJIB or Joe Bloggs trading would create reveune for the club FFP and all that

 

There is other land out there to be developed. Whether The Al Qadis can get in on that i dont know but surey as investment bankers and Hoteliers they would be foolish to not enquire.

 

Maybe nothing will come of it but i would argue they have the responsibility to eye it up

How much money do you think you owners have?

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3 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said:

How much money do you think you owners have?

Personally I have no clue, but they obviously have some. The AJIB shareholders were paid a 12% dividend last year according to the Jordan Times and they have plenty.of business interests.

As I say even if they dont have masses of personal wealth (relatively speaking) he atea they are in they have access to money and/or people with it

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10 minutes ago, Hello said:

I am not suggesting that UWE will give up or sell the land, just that i imagine the Al-Qadis as business people money men will explore all opportunities.

 

As the deal stands the UWE name creates no revenue other than to build the ground when Rovers didnt have any cash and needed Sainsburys.

 

Now we can finance the project either through personal wealth or acees to investors being in that field and thus any naming rights be it AJIB or Joe Bloggs trading would create reveune for the club FFP and all that

 

There is other land out there to be developed. Whether The Al Qadis can get in on that i dont know but surey as investment bankers and Hoteliers they would be foolish to not enquire.

 

Maybe nothing will come of it but i would argue they have the responsibility to eye it up

The new stadium site at UWE site is surrounded by Cheswick village to one side and HP the other, there is no further land available to develop apart from land protected by the woodland trust.

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25 minutes ago, Hello said:

Personally I have no clue, but they obviously have some. The AJIB shareholders were paid a 12% dividend last year according to the Jordan Times and they have plenty.of business interests.

As I say even if they dont have masses of personal wealth (relatively speaking) he atea they are in they have access to money and/or people with it

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10 minutes ago, Hello said:

Personally I have no clue, but they obviously have some. The AJIB shareholders were paid a 12% dividend last year according to the Jordan Times and they have plenty.of business interests.

As I say even if they dont have masses of personal wealth (relatively speaking) he atea they are in they have access to money and/or people with it

So your going to rely on loans then to finance the UWE and develop the academy?

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7 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said:

The new stadium site at UWE site is surrounded by Cheswick village to one side and HP the other, there is no further land available to develop apart from land protected by the woodland trust.

All i know is UWE had land from HP and plan or are building a new part of the University and there are plans for bars and a Hotel (Google)

Dont know what else is there. I dont doubt you though. As i say the new owners would be remiss to not explore all avenues and plunge straight in to a project that isnt theirs

 

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9 minutes ago, Hello said:

Personally I have no clue, but they obviously have some. The AJIB shareholders were paid a 12% dividend last year according to the Jordan Times and they have plenty.of business interests.

As I say even if they dont have masses of personal wealth (relatively speaking) he atea they are in they have access to money and/or people with it

Do you actually know what the 12% number means?

They distributed a dividend pot of JOD18,000,000.

The Al Qadi's own approximately 31.1% of AJIB.

The dividend distribution to the Al Qadi family is therefore JOD5,598,000

JOD5,598,000 = GBP5,568,280

It's nice. But it's no billionaire family.

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3 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said:

So your going to rely on loans then to finance the UWE and develop the academy?

No one knows do they. But we were relying on other peoples money before so....

 

I am trying to be realistic. I dont know their wealth but i assume they are business savvy enough to evaluate everthing before jumping in on someone elses project

There has been some foolishness from our fans but city and Rovers trying to one each other with no facts seems pointless

I guess we will find out in the coming months what the plans and realities are.

 

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5 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Do you actually know what the 12% number means?

They distributed a dividend pot of JOD18,000,000.

The Al Qadi's own approximately 31.1% of AJIB.

The dividend distribution to the Al Qadi family is therefore JOD5,598,000

JOD5,598,000 = GBP5,568,280

It's nice. But it's no billionaire family.

And.did you read what i wrote underneath.

 

They obviously have money and continue to generate money. What they have all over is anyones guess.

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8 minutes ago, Hello said:

And.did you read what i wrote underneath.

 

They obviously have money and continue to generate money. What they have all over is anyones guess.

Yes I did read it. But you just seem to throw numbers around without any context. 12% is meaningless. 12% of what? (It was 12% of the Bank's capital.) I was adding some actual value to that number.

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Taken from the Arab Jordan Investment Bank website ;- "Wael is passionate about football, loves to play, watch and attend football matches and tournaments, and is heavily involved In little leagues and kids' football academies in Jordan and is a board member in Amman FC academy. He is also a member of the marketing committee at the JFA".

Sounds like a perfect match.

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I think what we can probably agree on is that they`re in a lot better position financially than they were a week ago and should be able to pay their bills now. What happens in the future is anyone`s guess  but I suspect it won`t involve them being completely asset stripped or signing Lionel Messi but somewhere in between.

We`ll have to wait and see.

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1 hour ago, Hello said:

Personally I have no clue, but they obviously have some. The AJIB shareholders were paid a 12% dividend last year according to the Jordan Times and they have plenty.of business interests.

As I say even if they dont have masses of personal wealth (relatively speaking) he atea they are in they have access to money and/or people with it

The fact he was sat in standard seating at Stamford bridge rather than in the posh expensive seats etc doesn't ring alarm bells about their truth wealth?

26 minutes ago, Hello said:

I would hope they have paid off Wonga first

Hmmm, nothing has been paid off. He stated "debts will be paid off over time"

Again says quite a lot.

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5 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

I think what we can probably agree on is that they`re in a lot better position financially than they were a week ago and should be able to pay their bills now. What happens in the future is anyone`s guess  but I suspect it won`t involve them being completely asset stripped or signing Lionel Messi but somewhere in between.

We`ll have to wait and see.

No I don't think anyone can agree. There has been zero evidence to back up any wealth. Nick Higgs was quite well off, wouldn't it be perfect if Higgs actually has more money than these lot?

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