Lanterne Rouge Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, daored said: If only he waited, everton were sold a week or so later He wanted to buy a team with a great history and tradition, a huge fanbase and massive potential. Rovers every time over some tinpot outfit from Merseyside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: He wanted to buy a team with a great history and tradition, a huge fanbase and massive potential. Rovers every time over some tinpot outfit from Merseyside. Or Villa if he wanted a project. Bloody billionaires, buying the ready made solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: Looks like the new stadium for the lock-out lads might take a bit longer than expected. Rumours that Wally is looked at tarting up the Mem as the offers to finance the new build aren't as plentiful as hoped. And for a billionaire he doesn't seem to want to pay for it himself. Which if this was the great investment you'd think he would be all over it. Maybe this explains the lack of investors interested..... What, a new Santa's grotto at the Mem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 25 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Or Villa if he wanted a project. Bloody billionaires, buying the ready made solution. No fan potential, it's already there! They took 50K to Wembley, Wally said they did and he's a billionaire. If nobody has said previously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: Looks like the new stadium for the lock-out lads might take a bit longer than expected. Rumours that Wally is looked at tarting up the Mem as the offers to finance the new build aren't as plentiful as hoped. And for a billionaire he doesn't seem to want to pay for it himself. Which if this was the great investment you'd think he would be all over it. Maybe this explains the lack of investors interested..... Nicholas vowed he would only sell Rovers to someone who had the finance to carry out his UWE Stadium plan. But he must have got himself in a bit of a muddle when he sold the club because it appears Mr Al Qadi doesn't actually have the finance himself which is why he has been looking for outside investors. However the potential outside investors may well have found that the location on a University campus is a severe hindrance to the type of development which they would need to build to provide them with a satisfactory return on their capital. So the only way to finance the UWE Stadium would be unsecured venture capital from a risk taker who would be gambling on the football club being transformed into a valuable asset which he could eventually sell at a profit commensurate with the amount of cash he provided and the risk he had taken. The amount of capital needed to bring the UWE Stadium plans to fruition would be huge compared to the amount of capital which Mr Qadi needed to buy out Nicholas, his friends and MSP Capital. Therefore, it follows by virtue of the relative amounts invested, the risk taker providing the capital to finance the UWE Stadium would become the majority shareholder in Bristol Rovers FC and the Al Qadi family would be reduced to holding a minority stake. Is this likely to happen ? If it did, would Gasheads be "crying like Jim Chapel" ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthered Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 8 hours ago, cynic said: He needs to seek help. I Don't know why but I keep thinking I want to watch Shrek tonight..........I think it's seeing Bristolscums face... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Increasing their capacity at the Mem won't come cheap . Won't get any return on it either. Suggests they ain't planning to move at all in the short term future . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, bert tann said: Nicholas vowed he would only sell Rovers to someone who had the finance to carry out his UWE Stadium plan. But he must have got himself in a bit of a muddle when he sold the club because it appears Mr Al Qadi doesn't actually have the finance himself which is why he has been looking for outside investors. However the potential outside investors may well have found that the location on a University campus is a severe hindrance to the type of development which they would need to build to provide them with a satisfactory return on their capital. So the only way to finance the UWE Stadium would be unsecured venture capital from a risk taker who would be gambling on the football club being transformed into a valuable asset which he could eventually sell at a profit commensurate with the amount of cash he provided and the risk he had taken. The amount of capital needed to bring the UWE Stadium plans to fruition would be huge compared to the amount of capital which Mr Qadi needed to buy out Nicholas, his friends and MSP Capital. Therefore, it follows by virtue of the relative amounts invested, the risk taker providing the capital to finance the UWE Stadium would become the majority shareholder in Bristol Rovers FC and the Al Qadi family would be reduced to holding a minority stake. Is this likely to happen ? If it did, would Gasheads be "crying like Jim Chapel" ? @Weezord strong post that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: Looks like the new stadium for the lock-out lads might take a bit longer than expected. Rumours that Wally is looked at tarting up the Mem as the offers to finance the new build aren't as plentiful as hoped. And for a billionaire he doesn't seem to want to pay for it himself. Which if this was the great investment you'd think he would be all over it. Maybe this explains the lack of investors interested..... Will nobody think of the UWE car park? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: Looks like the new stadium for the lock-out lads might take a bit longer than expected. Rumours that Wally is looked at tarting up the Mem as the offers to finance the new build aren't as plentiful as hoped. And for a billionaire he doesn't seem to want to pay for it himself. Which if this was the great investment you'd think he would be all over it. Maybe this explains the lack of investors interested..... Will nobody think of the UWE car park? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Will nobody think of the UWE car park? Could be somewhere to hold those fund raising car boot sales that they`ll soon have to turn to when they can`t get any suckers to lend them money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, bert tann said: Nicholas vowed he would only sell Rovers to someone who had the finance to carry out his UWE Stadium plan. But he must have got himself in a bit of a muddle when he sold the club because it appears Mr Al Qadi doesn't actually have the finance himself which is why he has been looking for outside investors. However the potential outside investors may well have found that the location on a University campus is a severe hindrance to the type of development which they would need to build to provide them with a satisfactory return on their capital. So the only way to finance the UWE Stadium would be unsecured venture capital from a risk taker who would be gambling on the football club being transformed into a valuable asset which he could eventually sell at a profit commensurate with the amount of cash he provided and the risk he had taken. The amount of capital needed to bring the UWE Stadium plans to fruition would be huge compared to the amount of capital which Mr Qadi needed to buy out Nicholas, his friends and MSP Capital. Therefore, it follows by virtue of the relative amounts invested, the risk taker providing the capital to finance the UWE Stadium would become the majority shareholder in Bristol Rovers FC and the Al Qadi family would be reduced to holding a minority stake. Is this likely to happen ? If it did, would Gasheads be "crying like Jim Chapel" ? Read a previous post of mine about the hawking around being done by Wael to city financiers Nobody wants to touch it. Edited May 28, 2016 by Charliesboots 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaller than a flea Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 2 hours ago, bert tann said: Nicholas vowed he would only sell Rovers to someone who had the finance to carry out his UWE Stadium plan. But he must have got himself in a bit of a muddle when he sold the club because it appears Mr Al Qadi doesn't actually have the finance himself which is why he has been looking for outside investors. However the potential outside investors may well have found that the location on a University campus is a severe hindrance to the type of development which they would need to build to provide them with a satisfactory return on their capital. So the only way to finance the UWE Stadium would be unsecured venture capital from a risk taker who would be gambling on the football club being transformed into a valuable asset which he could eventually sell at a profit commensurate with the amount of cash he provided and the risk he had taken. The amount of capital needed to bring the UWE Stadium plans to fruition would be huge compared to the amount of capital which Mr Qadi needed to buy out Nicholas, his friends and MSP Capital. Therefore, it follows by virtue of the relative amounts invested, the risk taker providing the capital to finance the UWE Stadium would become the majority shareholder in Bristol Rovers FC and the Al Qadi family would be reduced to holding a minority stake. Is this likely to happen ? If it did, would Gasheads be "crying like Jim Chapel" ? Well that's a load of nonsense. Bankers look for outside investors because the return they get on their investments is higher than the interest they pay for loans for the investment, so long as that loan is secured on a safe source, ie the Al-Qadi family. In other words, it's cheaper for them to borrow the money than to use their own cash to fund the stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcider Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Smaller than a flea said: Well that's a load of nonsense. Bankers look for outside investors because the return they get on their investments is higher than the interest they pay for loans for the investment, so long as that loan is secured on a safe source, ie the Al-Qadi family. In other words, it's cheaper for them to borrow the money than to use their own cash to fund the stadium. Does that make any sense,if you borrow money you have to pay interest and pay the capital back,use your own money and you have no interest to pay ! Are you saying that they can make more by using their own money for other things ? If so what was the point of buying a run down club ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaller than a flea Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Kingcider said: Does that make any sense,if you borrow money you have to pay interest and pay the capital back,use your own money and you have no interest to pay ! Are you saying that they can make more by using their own money for other things ? If so what was the point of buying a run down club ? It does make sense. A bank wanting to fund a project might need £50m. They might be getting say 7% return by investing that £50m in the stock market. They could borrow the money at 5% if the loan is mega-safe, such as a rich Jordanian banking family. So why would they spend £50m of their cash and lose the 7% interest when they could borrow it and only pay 5%? This of course does not apply to mere mortals like us who pay huge interest rates for loans, but that's why the rich always do well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 22 minutes ago, Smaller than a flea said: Well that's a load of nonsense. Bankers look for outside investors because the return they get on their investments is higher than the interest they pay for loans for the investment, so long as that loan is secured on a safe source, ie the Al-Qadi family. In other words, it's cheaper for them to borrow the money than to use their own cash to fund the stadium. Subsitute 'own cash' for 'None'. Nobody in the city (that has been subject to an approach) wants anything to do with the financing of the Stadium. I've said previously the meetings have gone "like a scene from The Producers", leaving financiers blushing on behalf of your owner. Its sad, because you don't see it and sad because owners like this treat football fans with utter contempt. Add your club to the list of people who shaft clubs, or do something about it and start asking searching questions of your owner whilst you still have the chance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaller than a flea Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, City169 said: Still never seen any evidence that these multi zillionaires actually have all the money you lot like to claim I must admit they don't seem to be throwing money around, but they did say it was evolution, not revolution. Darrell Clarke has done all we could have hoped for, and more. If we're to be a success in L1 and push on to the Championship then a lot of money will have to be produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcider Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Smaller than a flea said: It does make sense. A bank wanting to fund a project might need £50m. They might be getting say 7% return by investing that £50m in the stock market. They could borrow the money at 5% if the loan is mega-safe, such as a rich Jordanian banking family. So why would they spend £50m of their cash and lose the 7% interest when they could borrow it and only pay 5%? This of course does not apply to mere mortals like us who pay huge interest rates for loans, but that's why the rich always do well. That makes some sense,the rich get richer etc .But 'shares can go down as well as up' if the Walleys were as clever as that, they would be as rich as some of your more deluded fans seem to think.Looks to me like a very high risk strategy,loan the money against their hotel,stock exchange drops and they loose the lot.I would be starting to worry about finances again if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I'd rather they built UWE than redevelop the Mem. Get them out of Bristol once and for all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 27 minutes ago, Smaller than a flea said: It does make sense. A bank wanting to fund a project might need £50m. They might be getting say 7% return by investing that £50m in the stock market. They could borrow the money at 5% if the loan is mega-safe, such as a rich Jordanian banking family. So why would they spend £50m of their cash and lose the 7% interest when they could borrow it and only pay 5%? This of course does not apply to mere mortals like us who pay huge interest rates for loans, but that's why the rich always do well. I'm not into high finance but, aren't returns on investment very low t the moment while interest rate on loans are also low, mortgage rates etc? In which case the oposite would apply, it would make sense to use your own capital . If you get investors they would want more than if they put money in abank,for example , where there is little or no risk. I'm sure there are people out there more au fait with banking and finance than me that will be able to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, Smaller than a flea said: It does make sense. A bank wanting to fund a project might need £50m. They might be getting say 7% return by investing that £50m in the stock market. They could borrow the money at 5% if the loan is mega-safe, such as a rich Jordanian banking family. So why would they spend £50m of their cash and lose the 7% interest when they could borrow it and only pay 5%? This of course does not apply to mere mortals like us who pay huge interest rates for loans, but that's why the rich always do well. Funnily enough the AJIB is paying a 7% dividend this year after a 12% dividend last year. It has been said the dividend is so high because of the perceived risk. Are you suggesting that Mr Al Qadi is offering to pay someone 5% interest on a loan of £30 million to cover the stadium funding shortfall and that Rovers will pay the £1.5 million interest per year out of their profits but if for any inexplicable reason they can't then the Al Qadi family will pay it instead using the dividends received from the AJIB ? Forgive me but it sounds as though you went to the Nicholas Higgs School of Finance. I believe if you asked Mr Al Qadi or Mr Hamer they would tell you that they are looking for equity capital and not a loan. But if someone is being asked to put up £30 million they are going to demand an extremely convincing business plan plus a very high equity stake. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 31 minutes ago, City169 said: I was more referring to that if you try and find anything about them, very little turns up other than they have taken over Rovers. I have found a post on another forum from someone who has done a lot more searching that I (very little in truth). In the post they said the Al-Qadi bank has assets of 1.7 billion, but also liabilities of 1.5 billion. That leaves 200 million, the family has a 30% stake, so that leaves the Al-Qadi Family with circa 60 million. These were from 2014 statements, but 60 million total from their main source of money is a far cry from what you lot like to claim. All false, he is richer than 'Letdown' didn't you know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, bert tann said: Funnily enough the AJIB is paying a 7% dividend this year after a 12% dividend last year. It has been said the dividend is so high because of the perceived risk. Are you suggesting that Mr Al Qadi is offering to pay someone 5% interest on a loan of £30 million to cover the stadium funding shortfall and that Rovers will pay the £1.5 million interest per year out of their profits but if for any inexplicable reason they can't then the Al Qadi family will pay it instead using the dividends received from the AJIB ? Forgive me but it sounds as though you went to the Nicholas Higgs School of Finance. I believe if you asked Mr Al Qadi or Mr Hamer they would tell you that they are looking for equity capital and not a loan. But if someone is being asked to put up £30 million they are going to demand an extremely convincing business plan plus a very high equity stake. Indeed the capital being asked for versus equity stake is not viable for the finance to be provided. Add into it the risk, which in this instance is exceptionally high - an example for you; Fund Managers in particular are not going to part with their investors cash because they would be (a) stupid to do so and (b) are not going to get paid from the deal = ain't going to happen. The need for a multi use stadium in Bristol & Greater Bristol area (I include South Gloucestershire in that) is limited as there happens to be one about to be completed in BS3 as we all know. If you count in the catchment of The Millennium Stadium to the west, the Madjeski Stadium to the east, the numerous Stadia in Birmingham to the north the business plan fails. For Rovers to seek outside funding for a stadium of their own its a very tough sale so the question back to Wael has been is "If you want one of your own then you have to pay for it yourself" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Smaller than a flea said: It does make sense. A bank wanting to fund a project might need £50m. They might be getting say 7% return by investing that £50m in the stock market. They could borrow the money at 5% if the loan is mega-safe, such as a rich Jordanian banking family. So why would they spend £50m of their cash and lose the 7% interest when they could borrow it and only pay 5%? This of course does not apply to mere mortals like us who pay huge interest rates for loans, but that's why the rich always do well. So with Al Qeada's easy access to cheap borrowing from the family bank, why hasn't the building work started at UWE yet (excluding the car park, that is.....)? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirColinOfMansfield Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I think there has been a lot of misunderstanding about Wally and his plans for Chelsea Gillingham Rovers. Everyone thought that he had taken on Michael Cunnah, the former chief executive of Wembley Stadium because he would get UWE built. However, it is a little known fact that when he was at school he had a Saturday job in Milletts and what he doesn't know about putting tents up isn't worth knowing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 9 hours ago, City169 said: Still never seen any evidence that these multi zillionaires actually have all the money you lot like to claim Some people on Rovers forums may have got a tad carried away with the wealth of our new owners. However, most Rovers fans I know, are well aware that they aren't they are not in the league of Russian oligarchs, or for that matter Steve Lansdown. I am certainly not expecting them to start flashing the cash at big name signings (nor would I want them to). I do think that they probably have a lot more acumen than Nick Higgs when it comes to the funding of a new stadium, and that the possibility of a new ground is as close as it as ever been. Having said that, I will believe it when I'm sat watching a game in it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The owner is irrelevant if the guy in charge isn't very good..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 9 hours ago, Smaller than a flea said: It does make sense. A bank wanting to fund a project might need £50m. They might be getting say 7% return by investing that £50m in the stock market. They could borrow the money at 5% if the loan is mega-safe, such as a rich Jordanian banking family. So why would they spend £50m of their cash and lose the 7% interest when they could borrow it and only pay 5%? This of course does not apply to mere mortals like us who pay huge interest rates for loans, but that's why the rich always do well. Really? Tell me why Steve Lansdown had invested the 45 million or so of HIS own money into the redevelopment of Ashton Gate rather than funding from outside investors or banks? Ofcourse SL would have little experience of money matters after becoming a "billionaire" from his business Hargreaves-Lansdown would he now??? Off you go to think up another one!!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 35 minutes ago, Miahdennehy said: Some people on Rovers forums and the staff of the Evening Post may have got a tad carried away with the wealth of our new owners. However, most Rovers fans I know, are well aware that they aren't they are not in the league of Russian oligarchs, or for that matter Steve Lansdown. I am certainly not expecting them to start flashing the cash at big name signings (nor would I want them to). I do think that they probably have a lot more acumen than Nick Higgs (who doesn't) when it comes to the funding of a new stadium, and that the possibility of a new ground is as close as it as ever been. Having said that, I will believe it when I'm sat watching a game in it! I can understand fans getting carried away when the takeover was originally announced, we're fans , it's what we do. I am however massively disappointed with the Post falling into the trap and making no effort to find out about the new owners, he has a nice watch so he's a billionaire ! As things stand , I think the Rugby ground will be developed. It will be a cheaper option, not necessarily a worse option , and how long will the UWE wait ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 10 hours ago, Smaller than a flea said: Well that's a load of nonsense. Bankers look for outside investors because the return they get on their investments is higher than the interest they pay for loans for the investment, so long as that loan is secured on a safe source, ie the Al-Qadi family. In other words, it's cheaper for them to borrow the money than to use their own cash to fund the stadium. If the new stadium is going to be a guaranteed success with no risk, why doesn't Wael Al-Qadi borrow the money from his own bank? The bank would charge interest, thereby increasing its profits. As he has a stake in the bank his fortune would increase and he would get a new stadium for free. Simple! (I'm using the Nick Higgs version of logic, not the real world version) I guess the answer is the bank's other owners are not stupid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, pongo88 said: If the new stadium is going to be a guaranteed success with no risk, why doesn't Wael Al-Qadi borrow the money from his own bank? The bank would charge interest, thereby increasing its profits. As he has a stake in the bank his fortune would increase and he would get a new stadium for free. Simple! (I'm using the Nick Higgs version of logic, not the real world version) I guess the answer is the bank's other owners are not stupid Islamic Banking rules are very different to ours so not as simple as you think. I could try and explain them on here but it will take forever. Look it up on the Internet and you will see what I mean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northsomersetred Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 13 minutes ago, BigTone said: Islamic Banking rules are very different to ours so not as simple as you think. I could try and explain them on here but it will take forever. Look it up on the Internet and you will see what I mean Just ask HMRC about them, even they don't know!! £50m of taxpayers money lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 44 minutes ago, northsomersetred said: Just ask HMRC about them, even they don't know!! £50m of taxpayers money lost Yep, it is very complicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 2 hours ago, BigTone said: Islamic Banking rules are very different to ours so not as simple as you think. I could try and explain them on here but it will take forever. Look it up on the Internet and you will see what I mean Tone - don't spoil the fun by being sensible. This topic is all we have to keep us amused during the majority of the close season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 38 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Tone - don't spoil the fun by being sensible. This topic is all we have to keep us amused during the majority of the close season. Well, how about............. the gas are rubbish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 6 hours ago, The New Gate said: Really? Tell me why Steve Lansdown has not invested the 45 million or so of HIS own money into the redevelopment of Ashton Gate rather than funding from outside investors or banks? Ofcourse SL would have little experience of money matters after becoming a "billionaire" from his business Hargreaves-Lansdown would he now??? Off you go to think up another one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somerset Red Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Millwall to visit the Family Club then. That'll be fun! (Do tents burn?) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Somerset Red said: Millwall to visit the Family Club then. That'll be fun! (Do tents burn?) Wouldn`t it be funny if they had Swindon on a Saturday and the gas on a Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 6 hours ago, pongo88 said: Tone - don't spoil the fun by being sensible. This topic is all we have to keep us amused during the majority of the close season. apologies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 20 hours ago, bert tann said: But if someone is being asked to put up £30 million they are going to demand an extremely convincing business plan plus a very high equity stake. I'm looking forward to seeing Wally being ripped to pieces on the next series of Dragon's Den! I want £30m for a 5% stake in the Gas...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaller than a flea Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 4 hours ago, Somerset Red said: Millwall to visit the Family Club then. That'll be fun! (Do tents burn?) Hopefully it'll be raining and the thugs will get a good soaking in our luxurious "you're not welcome" roofless away enclosure. They were up to their usual antics today chasing Barnsley fans in the upper tier at Wembley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) Poor ole #BriistolScum, watching Chris Wood (he's one of our own) win the Golf at Wentworth must have spoilt his Bank Holiday weekend. His TV screen covered in spittle yet again, only days after the Bristol Rugby success. Edited May 29, 2016 by Malago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) Ok ,own up. Which one of you is "Tote End Tony" in the EP letters. Brilliant piss-take of a gapper. 45 k at Wembley, 50k seat UWE, priceless...and the EP have been well and truely fished in ! Edited May 30, 2016 by slartibartfast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 On 29 mai 2016 at 10:08, BigTone said: Islamic Banking rules are very different to ours so not as simple as you think. I could try and explain them on here but it will take forever. Look it up on the Internet and you will see what I mean There is no interest in Islamic banking here Tony .,, 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 14 hours ago, Smaller than a flea said: Hopefully it'll be raining and the thugs will get a good soaking in our luxurious "you're not welcome" roofless away enclosure. They were up to their usual antics today chasing Barnsley fans in the upper tier at Wembley. Give me Millwall fans over a bunch of prolific racists, as Rovers' fans have proven to be, any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 2 hours ago, slartibartfast said: Ok ,own up. Which one of you is "Tote End Tony" in the EP letters. Brilliant piss-take of a gapper. 45 k at Wembley, 50k seat UWE, priceless...and the EP have been well and truely fished in ! Ikea Tony is a well down deluded fewer.. he's been saying the same shit for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Iron Man said: Ikea Tony is a well down deluded fewer.. he's been saying the same shit for years. Must be from Glenside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 50 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: There is no interest in Islamic banking here Tony .,, Exactly Sir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 22 hours ago, Smaller than a flea said: Hopefully it'll be raining and the thugs will get a good soaking in our luxurious "you're not welcome" roofless away enclosure. They were up to their usual antics today chasing Barnsley fans in the upper tier at Wembley. How do you know this? Genuinely interested...I didn't see any reports of trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: How do you know this? Genuinely interested...I didn't see any reports of trouble Millwall v Barnsley - trouble. Just check any newspaper/media portal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny P Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: How do you know this? Genuinely interested...I didn't see any reports of trouble http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36410247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Danny P said: http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36410247 Cheers @Bristol Rob and @Danny P - I haven't quite been on Mars but I was in a remote part of Oxfordshire this weekend with zero wifi, signal etc. Inevitably in a big 'Wall crowd, the usual suspects will be out and about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 13 hours ago hargravegas said: Should we really be spending money on the Mem IF we are getting a new stadium soon? Is there a problem or big delay anticipated? Yes when i hear talk of work being done to the mem it does make me nervous about the uwe going forward. Apart from Hamer media speak we have heard nothing concrete since the takeover. I do hope we can break ground by xmas as the momentum the club currently has needs to be maintained. Have the penny just dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 May 27, 2016 at 11:19pm 1986gas said: May 27, 2016 at 3:26pm Shoveller said: You must have to write quick this week (DC signed within hours of publication). Al Qadi & Hamer's business is going perfectly so far. 1. Absolve BRFC of Wongadministraion. Tick. 2. Exctracate the club from embarrasing and expensive litigation. Tick. 3. Leave DC alone to try to get another promotion. Tick. 4. Offer DC all he's worth and convince him to sign. Tick. 5. Sign the existing and new players DC needs for the 3rd Division. 6. Youth development, training ground, stadium, etc. But, but, but they don't have as much money as some have said they have, they only own one an investment bank various hotels and run HSBC in Jordan, it's all a cover up they are skint, and why isn't the stadium being built yet? There is little more as irritating at some so called Rovers fans who have sat back and allowed the previous chairman to run the club into the ground without challenge, and then nit pick at every opportunity to discredit the best thing that has happened to the club in its history. TickRead more: http://gasheads.org/thread/5242/waels-real-job-starts#ixzz4AAZIIPhC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 "I still think we are amongst the best fans in the country as you only have to look at how many still turned up when we were in the conference and staring administration in the face, with the ongoing wonga fiasco" You've almost gotta admire their dedication to the delusion. They've obviously forgotten the likes of Wimbledon AFC who rebuilt a club, or the likes of Pompey who pull crowds of nearly double theirs amongst others.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 So they`re not staring administration in the face any more? They will when Wally gets bored and sells them off again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 57 minutes ago, Coombsy said: 13 hours ago hargravegas said: Should we really be spending money on the Mem IF we are getting a new stadium soon? Is there a problem or big delay anticipated? Yes when i hear talk of work being done to the mem it does make me nervous about the uwe going forward. Apart from Hamer media speak we have heard nothing concrete since the takeover. I do hope we can break ground by xmas as the momentum the club currently has needs to be maintained. Have the penny just dropped At last one of their own is starting to ask relevant questions. And as funny as it is to watch them implode (which is what will happen) genuine football fans need to get real and ask the searching questions that need to be asked of their owners - especially in this instance. All is not as it seems, I see it, we see it, looks like someone over there is starting to see it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 7 hours ago Bath Gas said I was told that all hospitality boxes (West Stand) are sold out for next season.The only match-day hospitality you will be able to book is a meal and seat in the East Stand.Will 34 boxes be enough for us when we move to the UWE, or should we plan more? Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/5246/memorial-stadium-boosted-12-700#ixzz4AB36RTt0 Oh the gift is still giving. I can't believe they still think UWE is going ahead, let alone that they might need more than 34 boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 11 hours ago, slartibartfast said: Ok ,own up. Which one of you is "Tote End Tony" in the EP letters. Brilliant piss-take of a gapper. 45 k at Wembley, 50k seat UWE, priceless...and the EP have been well and truely fished in ! Whatever happened to Prancing Fanny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 9 hours ago, cidercity said: 7 hours ago Bath Gas said I was told that all hospitality boxes (West Stand) are sold out for next season.The only match-day hospitality you will be able to book is a meal and seat in the East Stand.Will 34 boxes be enough for us when we move to the UWE, or should we plan more? Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/5246/memorial-stadium-boosted-12-700#ixzz4AB36RTt0 Oh the gift is still giving. I can't believe they still think UWE is going ahead, let alone that they might need more than 34 boxes. They will need hundreds or maybe even thousands to cope with all the corporates that are locked outside. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 43 minutes ago, cynic said: What with the magnificent ST sales (over 4k now), a top 6 budget, loadsamoney for transfers, sell out fans, not enough corporate boxes, new stadium on the horizon, when is it all going to end ? Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 32 minutes ago, Philgas said: Exciting isn't it? I have often wondered who the people who think everything on the internet is true are......... I now think they have managed to gravitate to one place to make it easier for the WUM's to find them. Perhaps someone should test this theory by trying out a few of the more outlandish urban myths or conspiracy theories on gaschat and see what they eat up as fact? Now that would be quite exciting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, cynic said: What with the magnificent ST sales (over 4k now), a top 6 budget, loadsamoney for transfers, sell out crowds, not enough corporate boxes, new stadium on the horizon, when is it all going to end ? I don't know when, but I do know how, it will all end in tears. Sorrow for them and tears of laughter for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, cynic said: What with the magnificent ST sales (over 4k now), a top 6 budget, loadsamoney for transfers, sell out crowds, not enough corporate boxes, new stadium on the horizon, when is it all going to end ? 2018 might be too soon but they must be nailed on winners for the 2022 World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted May 31, 2016 Admin Share Posted May 31, 2016 On 17 May 2016 at 12:10, Big C said: may have misread you but to clarify Barcelona isn't a one team city. If you were promoting your business and wanted to take clients and potential clients to a sporting occasion in Bristol, I wonder what sort of impression you'd make taking them to ramshackle rovers and then next week your business rivals take the same clients to the newly refurbished AG, whether that be for football or rugby........ Tinpot would would spring to mind!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Genuine question regarding both City and Rovers. What is the academy status of both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Ours is cat 2 I don't think rovers have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 14 hours ago, Coombsy said: May 27, 2016 at 11:19pm 1986gas said: May 27, 2016 at 3:26pm Shoveller said: You must have to write quick this week (DC signed within hours of publication). Al Qadi & Hamer's business is going perfectly so far. 1. Absolve BRFC of Wongadministraion. Tick. 2. Exctracate the club from embarrasing and expensive litigation. Tick. 3. Leave DC alone to try to get another promotion. Tick. 4. Offer DC all he's worth and convince him to sign. Tick. 5. Sign the existing and new players DC needs for the 3rd Division. 6. Youth development, training ground, stadium, etc. But, but, but they don't have as much money as some have said they have, they only own one an investment bank various hotels and run HSBC in Jordan, it's all a cover up they are skint, and why isn't the stadium being built yet? There is little more as irritating at some so called Rovers fans who have sat back and allowed the previous chairman to run the club into the ground without challenge, and then nit pick at every opportunity to discredit the best thing that has happened to the club in its history. TickRead more: http://gasheads.org/thread/5242/waels-real-job-starts#ixzz4AAZIIPhC "run HSBC in Jordan" - pmsl! A friend of mine runs one of the big banks as regional manager for Somerset/Dorset - almost certainly handling more cash than the entire of Jordan. She drives a 12-reg Focus. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Ours is cat 2 I don't think rovers have one We'll that makes a mockery of Wally and his sustainable growth strategy then. Any half decent youth players they have will be snapped up for pennies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 49 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Genuine question regarding both City and Rovers. What is the academy status of both? City is Cat 2 and the Rovers is Cat 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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