Silvio Dante Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Gasfest 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Gasfest Maybe the tramp could come back and do some busking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Gasfest Pity Val Doonican has passed on he did a catchy version of Walk Small about old Nicholas 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Gasfest When good music's the quest, All they've got is "Gasfest" That's the Roverzzzz 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Gastonbury. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Park Reds Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 There’s enough tents for gastonbury 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Gastonbury. People who go to Glastonbury wouldn’t put up with the quality of toilets at the Mem..! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Gasfest Got to be one of us on a wind up surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Maybe the tramp could come back and do some busking No doubt they'll be creaming themselves at suggesting we should do one called 'Shitfest'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, bert tann said: Pity Val Doonican has passed on he did a catchy version of Walk Small about old Nicholas And for the recently departed Tramp he might have reprised 'Elusive Gutterfly'.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 On 25/05/2019 at 10:21, Eddie Hitler said: Does £16m look like a reasonable purchase price for a Division 3 club with its own ground worth maybe £12m It would be interesting to see what the ground valuation is and when it was last reviewed (there are good reasons why regularly reviewing isn't a good idea.) Clearly there's unlikely to be buyer for a sports stadium so with change of use and consequential CIL and S106 liabilities any gross value might likely be significantly reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: It would be interesting to see what the ground valuation is £80m 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judah_Eskendar_Tafar Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: Gasfest Amateur hour at the Mem? It’s already been done mate, on a regular basis, I might add! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Gastonbury. They will claim that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: It would be interesting to see what the ground valuation is and when it was last reviewed (there are good reasons why regularly reviewing isn't a good idea.) Clearly there's unlikely to be buyer for a sports stadium so with change of use and consequential CIL and S106 liabilities any gross value might likely be significantly reduced. From memory Sainsbury's valued the land at about , or at least offered £20m ish. If I remember correctly , this was four times what it was valued as housing development land. As an aside, a mate who works at the UWE is convinced that talks are on going for the new stadium. Not sure if this is Wael just trying to make the club a better prospect for purchase, or there is a real chance. To me it seems odd for a club to sign away an asset , just so they could rent again. Just as strange for the UWE to build a stadium or donate the land to a football club. It does feel a little like Wael is trying to polish a turd to get interest in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 hours ago, 1960maaan said: From memory Sainsbury's valued the land at about , or at least offered £20m ish Agree and key being that they soon realised it was worth nothing near given the change in the market. On residential development CIL/S106 can take as much as 40% of the enhanced value to the developer. I was once responsible for a B1 property with a book value of £12m which, when revalued for potential sui generis occupation, dropped to £7m. So a £12m book price stadium is likely to be worth far less as a residential land proposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippycar Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Appreciate and not criticising your posting BTRFTG , but plebs like me get easily confused and so here are the results of my Googling to try and understand your valued input: Sui Generis Law and Legal Definition. Sui generis is a Latin term which means of its own kind/genus. It is something that is unique in its characteristics. The expression is often used in analytic philosophy to indicate an idea, an entity, or a reality which cannot be included in a wider concept What is a section 106? Planning obligations, also known as Section 106 agreements (based on that section of The 1990 Town & Country Planning Act) are private agreements made between local authorities and developers and can be attached to a planning permission to make acceptable development which would otherwise be unacceptable in planning What is a CIL? The Community Infrastructure Levy (CIL) is a charge that local authorities can set on new development in order to raise funds to help fund the infrastructure, facilities and services - such as schools or transport improvements - which are needed to support new homes and businesses in the areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 16 hours ago, BTRFTG said: Agree and key being that they soon realised it was worth nothing near given the change in the market. On residential development CIL/S106 can take as much as 40% of the enhanced value to the developer. I was once responsible for a B1 property with a book value of £12m which, when revalued for potential sui generis occupation, dropped to £7m. So a £12m book price stadium is likely to be worth far less as a residential land proposition. Does anyone know the acreage of the Mem ? The nature of the residential development (if that is what will be most acceptable alternative use to the planners and professional opposers) will determine the value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Loon plage said: Does anyone know the acreage of the Mem ? The nature of the residential development (if that is what will be most acceptable alternative use to the planners and professional opposers) will determine the value. Total site is 3.3 Hectares. Under the lapsed consents Sainsbury's, in addition to funding local roadworks, were liable for @£1.2m of CIL contributions and had to hand over 40% of the proposed residential developments as affordable housing. Edited May 28, 2019 by BTRFTG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 22 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Gasfest I don't even want to imagine what the hell would go on at a 'Gasfest' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3City Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: I don't even want to imagine what the hell would go on at a 'Gasfest' 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, BCFC11 said: I don't even want to imagine what the hell would go on at a 'Gasfest' 1 hour ago, BCFC11 said: I don't even want to imagine what the hell would go on at a 'Gasfest' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, BCFC11 said: I don't even want to imagine what the hell would go on at a 'Gasfest' It’d make Fyre Festival look like the greatest event of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 hours ago, BTRFTG said: Total site is 3.3 Hectares. Under the lapsed consents Sainsbury's, in addition to funding local roadworks, were liable for @£1.2m of CIL contributions and had to hand over 40% of the proposed residential developments as affordable housing. Blimey be interesting to see how much affordable housing the council would try for across the whole site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Loon plage said: Blimey be interesting to see how much affordable housing the council would try for across the whole site. Norm is equivalent value of 40% of increase in asset value for the permission. It's a massive, 'hidden' tax that few have cottoned onto. You buy a new build house/flat and 40% goes straight to the local authority to subsidise social and affordable housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: Norm is equivalent value of 40% of increase in asset value for the permission. It's a massive, 'hidden' tax that few have cottoned onto. You buy a new build house/flat and 40% goes straight to the local authority to subsidise social and affordable housing. Be an interesting stand off methinks if it ever goes down the planning route because a developer will need a higher proportion of market value units to cover the cost of the acquisition of the site plus normal profit. This ain't exactly a greenfield site with hope value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirColinOfMansfield Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Wow! Looks like the value of the Mem has just doubled ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: Wow! Looks like the value of the Mem has just doubled ... Perhaps you CAN polish a turd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: Wow! Looks like the value of the Mem has just doubled ... Is that for real? Whatever do they need a screen that big for? Are they moving their drive-in nights from the car park to the pitch? Mind you, Babestation is going to look pretty damn impressive on it! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 hours ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: Wow! Looks like the value of the Mem has just doubled ... Hope they've got planning permission for that. Very close to those houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Rich said: Hope they've got planning permission for that. Very close to those houses. Now that would be a serious gift if that had to come down - who is going to find out then........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityal Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, wood_red said: Now that would be a serious gift if that had to come down - who is going to find out then........ I was wondering if their right to light was impeded by the screen too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, wood_red said: Now that would be a serious gift if that had to come down - who is going to find out then........ The only PP is for the retrospective application for the erection/replacement of their new stands, which they forgot to apply for last year. Not sure if PP is required for the TV screen, I would guess that it is, so no current application is visible on the council Planning site. Surely they'd have learned from the last time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, cityal said: I was wondering if their right to light was impeded by the screen too. Looks like it is, and they have an historic right to that light. It might be further away than it looks though and the angle of light is very important to consider as well. Very complicated laws to interpret just from a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: Wow! Looks like the value of the Mem has just doubled ... First game of the season, whoever they sign to play up front is very liable to smash a gert big hole in that, as he races through, one on one with the keeper..! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 why would the council need to impose a charge for an infrastructure upgrade? surely not that many people would want to live there. its a dump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Let’s not forget . They bought off SL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 It's getting slightly depressing reading their board. All the clever kids have wised up to the absolute shambles thast is the current ownership and the absolute weapon that is Henbury Gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: First game of the season, whoever they sign to play up front is very liable to smash a gert big hole in that, as he races through, one on one with the keeper..! Then they'd be awarded a penalty and the keeper sent off. All in the first five minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: It's getting slightly depressing reading their board. All the clever kids have wised up to the absolute shambles thast is the current ownership and the absolute weapon that is Henbury Gas. All the clever kids? Come on.....there ain't that many! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: Wow! Looks like the value of the Mem has just doubled ... Think how big the batteries must be for the remote.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: All the clever kids? Come on.....there ain't that many! No, but it was funnier when there was this mass delusion about sustainability and trusting the AQs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 hours ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: Wow! Looks like the value of the Mem has just doubled ... Look how close it is to the turnip patch. It might not look so good after their top striker Nicholls has had a few shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippycar Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Looks like it replaces an advertising "whore"ding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, zippycar said: Looks like it replaces an advertising "whore"ding ... which was clearly erected out of pure spite and desperation to block the view of the pitch from the house opposite (thereby inadvertently adding thousands to its value) and force the occupants to buy tickets should they inexplicably want to see the shitfest being served up on the other side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Porto Red said: ... which was clearly erected out of pure spite and desperation to block the view of the pitch from the house opposite (thereby inadvertently adding thousands to its value) and force the occupants to buy tickets should they inexplicably want to see the shitfest being served up on the other side. I heard the local residents themselves paid for it to obscure views of the ‘stadium’. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 5 hours ago, zippycar said: Looks like it replaces an advertising "whore"ding What a f.....g shambles that "ground" looks in those photos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 6 hours ago, zippycar said: Looks like it replaces an advertising "whore"ding That bottom picture makes it look much smaller and also impossible to see from large parts of the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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East End Old Boy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, LastManStanding said: Just had the same notification from Companies House, roll on 4th June! First Gazettenotice for compulsory strike-off This document is being processed and will be available in 5 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 11 hours ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: Wow! Looks like the value of the Mem has just doubled ... Well at least they will be able to see how we will be getting on . Sure they will put our score up when we’re losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 There you go Wally...https://www.realbusinessrescue.co.uk/nearest-office/bristol-insolvency-practitioners-licensed Always here to help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 What does 'struck off' mean in layman's terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: What does 'struck off' mean in layman's terms? If they don’t lodge accounts within a specific time period, the Crown can take ownership of their remaining assets, I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) **** the gas Edited May 29, 2019 by Unan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 51 minutes ago, East End Old Boy said: If they don’t lodge accounts within a specific time period, the Crown can take ownership of their remaining assets, I think! It also means the title (name) of the entity struck off becomes available should one wish to acquire it.... Just imagine.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: It also means the title (name) of the entity struck off becomes available should one wish to acquire it.... Just imagine.... So someone could register all variations, bar BRFC2015? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said: So someone could register all variations, bar BRFC2015? You can't attempt to 'pass off' or 'interfere' with a registered entity but once struck off they cease to exist hence the title once again becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: It also means the title (name) of the entity struck off becomes available should one wish to acquire it.... Just imagine.... Does that mean I could potentially open a gimp pornography store and call it Bristol Rovers FC? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 17/05/2019 at 14:17, Mattyisared said: Something I've found quite comedic that hasn't been mentioned on this thread whatsoever is Rovers and Coventry. Last summer, Rovers signed the Coventry head of recruitment Tommy Widdrington. In that summer they also brought in his son Theo Widdrington after he was released by Portsmouth. On deadline day in January, Rovers signed two Coventry cast-offs. One that was not wanted anymore in Jonson Clarke-Harris and the other who had been released by Coventry, Abu Ogogo. Although to be fair to them they seem to have been decent signings, Clarke-Harris especially. They're now linked to two Coventry centre-backs, and apparently want both. Both not wanted at Coventry anymore; Jack Grimmer and Tom Davies. Considering Coventry are a team that Rovers didn't even lose to this season, it seems hilarious they're signing their cast-offs. And so many of them! Don’t go there when we constantly try to rape Barnsley! On 26/05/2019 at 10:08, Port Said Red said: True but sometimes customers want to meet face to face, my wife goes to London roughly once a month for this. We can all see why Wael of Fortune would prefer to meet people in a London office, rather than the Mem. Did someone say “Wael of Fortune”?....... On 27/05/2019 at 18:10, Rudolf Hucker said: Gastonbury. Tentstock 1 hour ago, LastManStanding said: Please god.....I’ve got Andrea Bocelli and Sarah Brightman “Time to say Goodbye” lined up ready...... 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: Does that mean I could potentially open a gimp pornography store and call it Bristol Rovers FC? You could register Bristol Rovers FC as a ( Fetish Club) as this is clearly not a football enterprise, though I'd argue is essentially the same as that on offer in Horfield. Alternatively, you could register the football club title for the operation of your new Sunday football XI, and provided you didn't attempt to pass yourself off as the previous enterprise you might be ok. If successful you could object should The Gas attempt to re-register under a similar name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 10 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: It's getting slightly depressing reading their board. All the clever kids have wised up to the absolute shambles thast is the current ownership and the absolute weapon that is Henbury Gas. Dunno EH there were still a fair few on that thread about losses who were maintaining that flogging the ground without a replacement stadium in place within the city boundary was "a joke" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Loon plage said: replacement stadium in place within the city boundary Is that just Ashton Gate, or does it include Bedminster as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 keepthefaith Newbie Posts: 1 Member is Online Posting Level Next Level in 24 posts 4 minutes ago via mobile Quote Post by keepthefaith on 4 minutes ago Bristol Fruit Market, just saying ............. Ok who's on the wind up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Notices for compulsory strike off now filed for all six companies. Oops. 04 Jun 2019 First Gazette notice for compulsory strike-off This document is being processed and will be available in 5 days. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/0LDRyv0FHc5F1nh-l2JZbHm77O8/appointments Whilst the active companies aren't going to be struck off, though they may let the dormant ones with no assets go, this will be absolutely hammering their credit rating. Accounts not filed, active proposal to strike off. This is flashing big red danger signs to any suppliers which is going to mean cash up front for services and so more loan drawdowns. This is really no way to run a football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 hours ago, East End Old Boy said: If they don’t lodge accounts within a specific time period, the Crown can take ownership of their remaining assets, I think! Why would the crown want to take ownership of some secondhand tents and a load of debt..?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: This is really no way to run a football club. From where I'm sitting its perfect...good job wally 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Why would the crown want to take ownership of some secondhand tents and a load of debt..?! The Queen wants revenge for what Daryl did to her corgis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirColinOfMansfield Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 TAKE THAT (@ BRISTOL CITY) TAKE THAT! (@ BRISTOL ROVERS) 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: Why would the crown want to take ownership of some secondhand tents and a load of debt..?! The clue was in the Crown taking the ASSETS, which doesn’t include debt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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